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What's your favorite Bible Verse?
I'll start.

>1 Corinthians 6:9-10
>Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor sinners, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor malakoi (effeminates), nor arsenokoitai (homosexuals), will inherit the kingdom of God.
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>>524072279
There is no real proof that arsenokotai means homosexual. The Septuagint manuscripts are unreliable and the word is found nowhere else in Greek literature until St. Paul in the 1st century.

Right now my favorite verse to get people to focus on is Romans 11:9.
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>>524072279
Ecclesiastes 2:17
>So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
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Matthew 7:16 (and 7:20)
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>>524072279
Mark 14:51-52
Makes me think what kike garbage this book is
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>>524072279
>What's your favorite Bible Verse?
"then, they will be like us"
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>>524072532
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Bible says faggots go to hell
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>>524072279
My favorite verse is probably the one that says that women should not hold authority over men. Either that or an anti-fag one.
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>>524072611
Theres actually a good explanation for this but no ones going to get it
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>>524072680
I believe you only go to hell for not believing. But I also believe Fags should be, at the very least, exiled.
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>>524072707
You mean this one?

>1 Timothy 2:11-12 (NIV):
>"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."
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>>524072532
not to defend chimpstianity but arsenokoitos is about as clear as you could make it
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>>524072855
>I believe you only go to hell for not believing
That's absurd. Do you also believe that murderers don't go to hell?
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>>524072897
The compound word thing is meaningless. Kidnap? Cobweb?
The King James translates it as "abusers of themselves with mankind", which could mean "worldly" for all we know.
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>>524072927
I believe King Saul is in Heaven right now. Do you?
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Genesis 6:6
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Rev. 2:9
> I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev. 3:9
>Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
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>>524073186
All sinners will go to hell.
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>>524073247
Hebrews 13:5
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>>524073247
>For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
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Jeremiah 2:22
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>>524073321
Revelation 21:8
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>>524073405
Matthew 25:46
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>>524073497
Colossians 1:13
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>>524073129
>meaningless
what? as I said, it's about as clear as possible, ἄρρην-/ἀρσήν- + κόιτης, masculine/male + bedfellow, compounds like this go far as back as the Iliad e.g παράκοιτις synonym of wife, with feminine noun ending -ις, while -ής denotes the equivalent masculine, there's little doubt
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reminder that anyone who is claiming to be christian and on this website is a larping faggot
>inb4 spreading the gospel
jesus told you how to do it, door to door
I'll bet my left nut not a single one of you homos have ever given the gospel to your neighbors, bosses, friends, etc.
you'd much rather sit on your ass, post DAYYYUUUS VOOOLT ebin memes on a pornography website
dont even reply, you have nothing of value to say to me and I won't read it
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>>524072279
>Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
I just don't understand why God couldn't adhere to this.
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>>524073554
Philippians 2:12
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>>524072279
1 Corinthians 2:14
2 Timothy 3:16-17
Romans 7:15-26
Romans 8:28-30

All of Ecclesiastes.
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>>524073530
>And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
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>>524072279
Niggerkike 14:88
> Christcucks are kike retards
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>>524073563
>b-but it's a Compound word!
What part of meaningless do you not understand? Does the word "kidnap" have anything to do with a child sleeping? Does "butterfly" have anything to do with butter?
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>>524073711
James 2:24
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>>524073820
ah I get it, you have no clue whatsoever about how indo-european languages let alone ancient Greek work
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>>524073639
You're confusing the 1st and 2nd condemnation. King Saul faced 1 of the 2.

Romans 8:1
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>>524073779
You worship blue 6 armed monkey demons.
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>>524073866
You have absolutely nothing to teach me. You're not even a Christian. No one used the word "arsenokoitai" until St. Paul.
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>>524073931
Galatians 5:19-21
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>>524074049
>"Arsen" (ἄρσην) meaning "male" or "man."
>"Koitai" (κοίτη) meaning "bed" or "sexual intercourse."
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>>524074063
Luke 17:21
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>>524074049
you are right, lost causes aren't worth wasting much time over, I'll just blow the absolute fuck out of you with the LSJ entry and stop replying
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>>524072725
Neaniskos means "little boy", but christkikes deceptively mistranslate it as "young man"

The Vatican is just a big child trafficking racket for Israel
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>>524073207
I hate this verse just because so many people misunderstand it
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>>524074124
It is translated as "abusers of themselves with mankind", which could simply mean "worldy" or "in bed with the world/mankind".
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>>524074150
Matthew 5:3-10
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>>524074242
nice pilpul, memeflag
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>>524074179
>muh 1940 Lexicon says
Thats called a modernist source. Use the 1611. You're not even Christian. Most likely a Kike.
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>>524074242
It basically says male bed or man sexual intercourse
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>>524073207
>>524074224
Who is talking?
Who is he talking about?
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>>524074445
He's talking about the synagogue of Satan
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>>524074357
You have no way to prove otherwise. You can let your emotions do the talking, or you can demonstrate the word being used before St. Paul used it.
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>>524074369
Yeah, because germanic philologist of the 1940s are such a bad authority on heathen greece

suuure
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>>524074395
For the 3rd or 4th time, compound words are not strictly defined by the 2 words. Kidnap? Do "kid" and "nap" have anything to do with the word kidnap? Yes or No
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>>524072279
'Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.'
and
'and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned'
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>>524072279
Everything after the gospels is exactly the same as the Israelites continuing to expand on the ten commandments after Moses came down from the mountain.
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>>524074591
Dude did you even read my post?
You didn't. I posted the defintions

>>"Arsen" (ἄρσην) meaning "male" or "man."
>>"Koitai" (κοίτη) meaning "bed" or "sexual intercourse."
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>>524074501
The Temples of Zeus in Pergamon and Smyrna?

Ikr
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>>524074659
Yes if it is about Satan
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>>524074503
burden of proof lies with you, Cohen
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>>524074577
You have a problem with the 1611 translation of this word but don't have the courage to attack it. Just hiding behind your modernist Lexicons that make assertions with no proof.
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>>524072279
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>>524072279
>But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. 1 Timothy 5:8


Christianity is a portable altruistic moral framework.
Anyone that is lacking the internal instinctive moral code of the northern races can become good simply by following Christian doctrine.

If a Jew abandons the Talmud and the desire to harm others, and converts to Christianity, they can be saved. The Day of the Oven™ is no longer their fate. They become our brothers in Christ.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
- Galatians 5:22-23
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>>524072279
>>524074774
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>>524074699
Who's calling Zeus Satan?
A bunch of revolutionary semites from the Levant?
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>>524074445
Its jesus telling a church in Smyrna I think, and he says that the jews who persecute them arent true jews and he will reveal they are a synagogue of Satan. People think it means modern jews arent actually the GOOD jews and are khazarian imposters. But the churches in anatolia were led by ethnic jews and had gentiles in it. "Jew" was used in the verse in a covenantal sense, not an ethnic one.
Theyre not true jews because they arent Christian, and theyre a synagogue of satan because they persecute Christians
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>>524072279
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>>524074725
The burden of proof is on whoever makes the claim that arsenokoitai means homosexual.
>>524074647
I think you're a kike.
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>>524072279
>>524074774
>>524074824
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>Acts Chapter 7
>Damn all u retarded jew faggots fucked up literally every single time rofl ur so fucking retarded it's actually unbelievable, rofl u still worship those faggot ass gods remphan and moloch rofl ur so fuckin dumb it's actually unreal
>noooo *throws stones*
>holy shit these klowns are unreal
actual text btw
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>>524074838
Did I say that?
I said IF it is Satan
I never said Zeus is Satan
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>>524074591
>Kid nap
>mmm comfy
>kidnap
UH OH
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>>524074824
>>524074859
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>>524074853
So you have to resort to insults and name-calling? How low of you.
And here I thought we were arguing like civilized gentlemen.
Nevertheless, I will accept your concession. Be so as you may. Make of it as you will.
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>>524072279
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>>524073247
Antithetical to the new covenant. All that is required is repentance, and only He knows whether it is true.
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>>524072559
Solomon was a NEET
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>>524074885
Thank you. These people try to make me feel crazy.
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>>524074369
You’re excusing sodomy which as transparent as it gets.
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>>524072855
Idk anon. The Demons clearly knew who Jesus was, and the unforgivable sin is deliberate blasphemy against God
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"For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?“
Matthew 16:26
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>>524075140
In no way am I excusing Sodomy. Now you're resorting to lying? Under your interpretation, the Church at Corinth was full of former homosexual. I doubt that.
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>>524075034
Matthew 7:21
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>>524075277
Demons are not on the same program as humans. They don't need faith or doubt because they know.
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>>524073595
Can't speak for anyone else in this thread, but scitzo posters talking about moloch and child sacrifice got me interested in reading the bible in the first place. Everywhere people can be reached is a battleground.
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>>524075424
>they know
And what don't you know? Is water not wet if you don't believe it? Put your faith somewhere it can be of use. God doesn't need it.
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>>524074853
That's what he did, and provided LSJ as a source

>>524074851
It's Jesus, a jewish Erastes, seething about ethnic greek converts in Pergamon and Smyrna for mixing their hellenic customs with his Interpretation of Judaism
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>>524075277
false, it's against the holy spirit, and the punishment is just not entering the kingdom of god (1000 year period following Christ's return where Satan is put away).

Salvation will be had by all, eventually. The lie that most christian religions speak about (you have to believe what they believe or you burn for all eternity) is problematic. those that teach this false doctrine will get their reward
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Over the last 6 months it feels like, church has repeated Galatians 5:1 over and over and over and over again. I get it, freedom good. It just grinds my gears a little bit when the messaging is almost always tied to tithing too.
>Jesus freed us all, never go back
>Money pwease :)

I'm still pretty new to regularly going to church and discussing biblical stories, so I don't exactly have a fave yet, just what I'm heard on repeat most of the year.
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1 John 1:5

This then is the message which we have heard of Him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.
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Christianity failed to protect us from jews and muslims. Why does it deserve another chance? Almost like it was designed to fail.
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>>524075678
>God doesn't need it.
Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Matthew 23:34 KJVAAE
>>524075784
You're using a circular argument. How do you not see that? This is mind numbing. Your modernist source did not satisfy the Burden of Proof, it merely restates its own position.
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>>524075784
Youre blinded by seethe, anon.
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you cannot serve both god and money
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>>524076026
And so He sent me you today.
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>>524075784
>It's Jesus, a jewish Erastes
You're a kike. Now it makes sense.
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>>524076189
If God sent you, you'd speak the words of God.
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>>524076282
If you had ears you'd hear it.
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>>524076342
>"Put your faith somewhere it can be of use. God doesn't need it."
Is E´phra-im my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the Lord.
Jeremiah 31:20 KJVAAE
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>>524076063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r83ZRissyw

What's this?
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>>524075889
Christianity was only meant to free us from the spiritual darkness Satan established on earth. Not concern ourselves with worldly affairs. Jews and Muslims will be dealt with in Armageddon. Pic related
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>>524076357
The original tranny self-castration cult
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>>524076426
You're stuck in the past and patting yourself on the back for it. The truth was revealed over 2000 years ago and you still treat God like some mysterious unknown.
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>>524076632
The just live by faith, not empirical knowledge.
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>>524076706
>not empirical knowledge
It sounds like your issue is with God, not me.
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>>524076276
>Thou shalt not murder
some time later
>"We're going to kill some Philistines for their foreskins."
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>>524076489
Okay, there might be something to it now that I read into it
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>>524072279
My favorite bible verse is the verses following ezekiel 20:33+, because these verses aptly describe the living conditions for the great tribulation saints
Following that would be revelation 18 and zechariah 12, for both babylons destruction and the keeping of sukkot also for endtime saints and the millenial kingdom as proof we keep the Feasts of the LORD for Jesus Christ and not mans tradition

I view the 1000 years as the ultimate period for reconciliation and learning between man and also God Instructing us proper, its gonna be awesome, i cant wait to see my Jesus bros from 4chan and other places
My family in the bride of Christ is so special amd awesome and huge and everytime i am reminded of the toil here i cant help but forget it when i imagine what lofe will be like with my BROS and greater family
I love Jesus Christ, amen

Also like the euphrates river because that and couple other end time prophecies are objectively the absolutist answer for bingus dumb dumb to finally concede Jesus is the Christ
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>>524076823
I have faith that God manifest in the flesh and resurrected from the grave. I do not have empirical knowledge of these things. Very simple concept.
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>>524076885
Yeah well whether you have faith it happened or not doesn't change the facts. It's the same with God. It's time to ascend, anon. You won't do that until you put your faith where it can have an impact.
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>>524074817
>If a Jew abandons the Talmud and the desire to harm others, and converts to Christianity, they can be saved. The Day of the Oven™ is no longer their fate. They become our brothers in Christ.
Well there's a handy quote. Thanks, idiot.
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>>524072279
John 18:4-6
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>>524077033
It changes the facts for the person.
>Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
>Galatians 5:4 KJVAAE
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>>524077117
what is context
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>>524076849
Welcome to the Post-Revelation timeline
Buckle your seatbelts, cuz this ride is gonna be WILD
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>>524074642
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>>524077328
Ahhh so its about a foreign country being happy killing the babies of jews because the jews turned their backs on God

Got it
Thanks
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My favorite is Romans 15:26-27

>For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the Lord’s people in Jerusalem. They were pleased to do it, and indeed they owe it to them. For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings
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>>524077315
Maybe so. I still think it's borderline heresy to insinuate that God doesn't desire our faith.
>Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
>Matthew 22:37 KJVAAE
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>>524077499
Besides that one, can anyone point me to any Bible verse written or attributed to a white man and not a semite? So that I may have a new favorite verse.
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>>524077546
I think it's conceited to insist He does.
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>>524077328
The jews believe Edomites are modern day Europeans and Christians. That is why they rape children and kill white children.
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>>524077691
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Revelation 3:20 KJVAAE
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>>524072680
Nowhere does that say they go to hell.

Just that they should be put to death
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>>524077412
the ones lamenting are israelites
the ones who caused them pain are the babylonians
the persians who later conquer the babylonians are the ones who happily dash infants against rocks

in conclusion, it's about a foreign country being happy killing the babies of babylonians because babylonians took the israelites into captivity
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>>524077546
But what I really mean here>>524077691 is that the way you live your life should prove your "faith" (such a silly word to use in reference to undeniable truth) and if you put your faith elsewhere like your fellow man surely God would reward you for it. It's like that story about the guy who buried the money instead of making more for his master or whatever. I'm sure you know the verse.
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>>524077721
At least one American who wasn't completely mindraped, congratulations
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>>524075808
tithing was never part of christianity, and was only done on very specific products within the area for the support of the temple.
christian religion is such a bastardized and unholy version of what can be seen in the scriptures
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>>524077991
And how do you know this isn't a beam vs mote situation? Why are you so sure that you're the faithful servant and I'm the wicked and slothful servant?
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>>524077680
racism is idolatry btw
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>>524077328
You know that the Babylonians did the exact same thing with children, right? It's calling for retributive justice, not hand wringing shekel demons randomly wanting blood.
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>>524078174
I'm merely pointing out that faith has no impact on the truth. It didn't save whichever guy that was who buried the money, did it?
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>>524077994
I wonder if Christians are supposed to read this old testament psalm of David and think this way about the children of their enemies like jews and muslims.
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>>524078322
Please, share a good example with us
I'm certain the shills will fume over it
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>>524078511
Which then gave the genealogy of Canaanite tribes of Moabites and Ammonites, who then went on to practice Baal worship and burn their kids alive to the flames. It's never portrayed as a good thing.

You fags are so lazy with your cherry picked verses.
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>>524078314
It depends on if you believe Outer Darkness is the Torment section of Hell. I believe Outer Darkness is excommunication. Elsewhere the unprofitable servant is "beaten with many stripes".
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>>524078682
Isn't that some Mormon shit?
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>in my opinion
found the protestant
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>>524072279
The one where your Ma sucked me off to completion.
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>>524078739
I'm not Mormon. But St. Paul tells us to be pulling people out of the fire. They are currently in fire.
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>>524078900
You're not going to accomplish that with Bible quotes. They'll just end up in a church.
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>>524079004
so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Isaiah 55:11 KJVAAE
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>>524077843
Sorry to burst your bubble, but, dead people who sinned in life go to hell.
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>>524078900
Right, okay. I thought you were referring to LDS theology, where they believe in "Layers of Heaven" and Outer Darkness is like the lowest layer. I think the one you're talking about is complete separation from God, which is reserved for the truly unredeemable. That scenario isn't called for intervention to try to save them.
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>>524075277
>The Demons clearly knew who Jesus was
Knowing who Jesus is is not the same as believing.

You need to believe that you are a sinner, that deserves hell, and that Christ died for you being sinless to give you Eternal Life.

>esus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
>And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

>If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
>He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
>And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
>He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
>These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
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>>524079148
I believe King Saul was in Outer Darkness for the latter half of his life, went to Abraham's Bosom, and is now in Heaven.
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>>524072279
how does the whole predestination vs free will thing in the bible actually work? like does god picking some people mess with us really choosing stuff and what even is real faith then?
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>>524079093
Literally everything on earth proceeded from the mouth of God and you're stuck on words. Even Jesus told you that in the desert.
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>>524079384
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Deuteronomy 30:19 KJVAAE

a blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you this day:
Deuteronomy 11:27 KJVAAE

And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
Joshua 24:15 KJVAAE
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>>524079384
>us really choosing
Free will is not your choice. It has nothing to do with you. It's free.
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>>524079384
I think you could argue that there are some who are chosen for an important role ahead of time. The "elect" in other words. The rest would have to be free will, because otherwise there'd be no point in spreading the gospel in the first place.
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>>524079567
Are you a Calvinist now? Everyone on earth proceeded from the mouth of God? And you're accusing me of being Satan?
>For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
>Matthew 15:19 KJVAAE
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>>524079652
kek
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>>524079657
well those verses are all hammering on the "you gotta choose" side. god straight up telling people to pick life over death, obey or not, serve him or bail to other gods. it's peak free will energy, like the bible constantly yelling "dude make a decision already."
it's like answering "how does quantum superposition work" with "well cats are either alive or dead when you look."
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>>524079384
that's what calvinism teaches, yes.
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>>524079829
Everything, dumbass. It's like the second line in the book. For someone so seemingly well versed on every denomination Jesus would never know you sure feign ignorance well.
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>>524079898
If it's your choice it's not free will. It's bound by you.
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>>524079818
yeah this logic checks out if you're thinking "why bother evangelizing if everything's locked in?"
but calvinists >>524079898 say nah, it's not just some VIPs picked for big roles? like we preach cuz that's the way?
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>>524080081
>EVERYTHING
Rape? Murder? Does that proceed from God or man's Free Will, genius? Nice Calvinism.
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>>524080191
>man's Free Will
lol learn to read
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>>524072279
>What's your favorite Bible Verse?
"Do not be afraid"
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>>524072279
>reading the bible
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>>524080144
wait if the choice is genuinely mine then it's literally bound by me tho? that's the whole point of it being my will lol. if it wasn't shaped by who i am, my desires, my history, whatever, then whose will is it even? some random cosmic dice roll?
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>>524080280
Your will isn't free, it's yours. Free will is the will of God.
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>>524080160
I should probably clarify that while I think there are people who get chosen ahead of time for a role, that doesn't mean they get a free ride. They'd still have to be responsible for their salvation, because even people like David and Judas had big roles, but they still fucked up big time. There's still free will in choice, it's just that God's sovereignty ensures the job gets done regardless.
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>>524080327
I think about people like Judas or even the antichrist and if they have a choice. Someone had to do those things to fulfill the scripture, but it wouldn'tbe very fair if it wasn'ttheir decision.
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>>524080311
The Saints repeatedly affirmed man's Free Will in the 1st and 2nd centuries.
- St. Clement of Alexandria
- St. Irenaeus
- St. Theophilus of Antioch
- St. Abercius
- St. Melito
- St. Justin Martyr

You really got triggered when exposed as a Calvinist Heretic.
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>>524080328
How do I cook a goat in its mothers milk?
Any good recipes?
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>>524080594
As a confirmed Catholic I can confidently say fuck all those guys and fuck you too. Learn to read.>>524074642
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>>524080707
>As a confirmed Catholic I can confidently say fuck all those guys and fuck you too. Learn to read.
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>>524080544
It does seem tricky with Judas, but I don't think it's "God set Judas up to fail", it's just that God knows everything that happens and incorporates that into his plan. Nobody put a gun to Judas's head to do what he did, it was always his choice when it comes down to it. Think about it like this: If it wasn't Judas, it would have been somebody else. He can order the circumstances, but he won't order the choice.
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>>524080144
>It's bound by you.
yeah, because it's my free will, dummy.
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>>524080774
If you read the Bible and you're still in a church you need to keep reading it until you're literate and therefore not jewish. Jesus didn't start a religion.
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>>524080875
>mine
>free
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>>524072279
Here ya go, OP. It's as true today as it was back then. 100% accurate.
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>>524079384
God predertimens or schedules events ahead of time. You, aa an individual, can choose how you will respond, react and be involved in those predertimened events.
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>>524080990
>>524080875
i'm just a puppet of chaos instead of a puppet of predestination, kinda? or is the idea that true free will has to be unbound from anything including yourself? cuz that sounds kinda impossible, we'd have to be like pure void making choices from nowhere.
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Matthew 15:21-28, and the Mark passages thwt are actually worse. You're all equal in Jesus! Except when you're not, and we're all subordinate to the jews in the mind of Christ anyway. It's always first AND last to the jews. Always. To jesus, we're all yappy pet dogs, the kind that can't take care of themselves and are so inbred they're incapable of living unassisted. We get crumbs while the jews get fed like humans.
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>>524073638
How is it that God can't adhere to his own rules?
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>>524081405
>we'd have to be like pure void making choices from nowhere.
You got it.
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>>524072680
I have to agree that is one of the weirdest verses in the whole bible and im not dogmatic or think people go to hell for being gay but given the context of the time back then its easy to say how they might say that. They were trying to be like puritans to distance themselves from all the sin. Being gay doesnt make you bad but sexual crimes are particularly heinous to common sensibilities as being gay ultimately is not conducive to growing a society or child rearing. It was very strict because of the terrible things which happened and were occuring. Im not dogmatic though and i dont think God really said that. Other scriptures indicate all you really need to do to go to heaven is try and be a good person and avoid evil
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>>524073638
Because those rules are for humanity, not God. Same as you have rules for your pets. You tell your dog to stay off the couch and demand your cat to go in the sandbox. Yet your dog and cat wonder why YOU sit on the couch and why you don't go in a sandbox. That's because you are the superior being and lord of the house. You can make rules for only others that you are not bound to.
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>>524081427
You do realize that Jesus was intentionally subverting Jewish exclusivity with his initial opening. You know why I say this? Because he praises the woman and still helps her, because she showed true faith. Jewish exclusivity like the Pharisees preached and believed wanted nothing to do with Gentiles, unless they converted to Judaism. Jesus didn't ask her of that.

In fact, Jesus's whole Messianic status was a complete 180 of what the Jews thought was their Messiah. Instead of this powerhouse who would vindicate them and slaughter their enemies, He was a humble servant who allowed Himself to be put to death for all our sakes. Why do you think the Talmud and the Pharisees seethed at Jesus at all?
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>>524075889
Well God failed to protect us from suffering once already, why should i trust him anyway? He failed to create us properly and instead created us with a flaw and is now trying to make us guilty for having said flaw and punish us for it. It's not exactly fair, is it?
The whole thing doesn't make much sense... God is punishing because we are not like robots, or in other words because we can't make the right choice every time. We will continue to be punished until we become like robots and make the right choice every time. And yet you people then tell us that God doesn't want robots. Can you people and God make up your minds?
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>>524076159
Why am i required to then?
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>>524081184
I NEED THE FORBIDDEN GOAT DISH REEEEEE
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>>524072680
It could also be a hidden meaning. Like if you are lying the ground dead next to women and men your blood would certainly be upon you. Like its saying original sin or something. Or it could be saying eve lied to adam and adam lied to other men. And when people lie people die because its sin causing death its error
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>>524074216
No it doesn't.
The same word is used when a rich man asks Jesus philosophical questions and even confirms that his youth is over.
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>>524081839
I cannot. It would greatly anger hashem, as do foreskins.
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