https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000331928109809757https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-media-to-merge-with-nuclear-fusion-company-that-wants-to-power-aiStop making nuclear fusion reactorsWe can just use solar power you retard
He wants gibs for dyson sphere
>>524082434Solar works fine when you realize 95% of humanity will be dead by 2100 so why bother with anything else
>>524082434I love Elon, söyence and space
>>524082434>TRUMP BTFO BY ELON MUSK!!!translation: elon is seething and coping and pajeetrannys are reposting it
We should do more geothermal
>>524082434So go shoot yourself into the Sun, fuckface.
At least the both agree on mass immigration of infinityjeets
>>524082434>elon parrots 5th grade science in the most clunky manner possible while acting like it's some sort of revelatory genius on his parti've seen this episode before.
Solar is so fucking stupid. AI is so fucking stupid. Both of these are solved by oceanic hydro dams, but they'll never do it because muh fish.
>>524082750KYS JEET
>>524082987Ya lol this post of his doesn't seem very high IQ.>What good is man made, mobile sun? We have sun ALREADY in sky! My rocket one day reach sun...then you seeLol, I don't get it either
God this nigga is dumbAll Africans are retarded, without exception.
>>524082434Ah yeah Elon the guy who gets BTFOd by youtube engineers on the daily.
Nuclear is more efficient than solar and less damaging to the environment.
>>524083191He's a fag, he pretends like he's some fucking scientist or some shit. He is a fucking investor lol.
>>524083122Elon is the upper end of midwit. That's about it. Never heard him make a really deep or insightful comment signifying very high intelligence.
They don't want people on solar anymore because it allows the plebs to be truly independent.
Fusion is like a nuclear reactor on crack, one fusion reactor can power the entire world with zero waste. My only question is why did Trump have this breakthrough a few days after the head of Fusion tech got murdered?
Elon doesn't know what dust and weather are.
>>524082434He has a stake in both solar panels and the required battery products required for them to be of any use (i.e. steady). I doubt solar is of very much use, at least where I live. I love what he's doing with spacex, and x (for the most part). I dislike his cars, but I love his occasional ethnonationalist spouts and anti EU stuff on x. Complicated guy.
>>524082434He just wants to sell more batteries
>>524083484Inertial electrostic confinement beyond break even has already been achieved.Look up Dr. Robert Bussard He used to talk about this endlessly.Inertial electrostatic confinement was the most likely method to actually work and was cheaper and could be miniatureized easily.I'm guessing this is what Lockheed Martins design is based on
>>524083484Did that guy really die? Did we see a body? Is there an autopsy report?
>>524083343at what point did they even drop the inventor part?
>>524083634For what reason are Arizona and Nevada not blanketed in panels, though?
>>524082987>>524083122I really hate the deepstate for choosing such a boring and gay actor. Couldn't they have found someone vastly more interesting than Elon as their frontman?
fusion reactors on the ground are so much better than the sun. that's why everybody uses nuclear reactors, we cant and wont be able to harvest sun energy
>>524082434This seems a little dumb.Okay so the space travel long term relies on a fission-fusion engine for a while anyway.
>>524082434I will put the salt nuclear reactor on the big fat ship and everybody will seethe
>>524082434Fusion could likely be a deadend
>>524083869Dust, hail storms, flash floods, preserving wilderness, remote locations, heat, cooling, water access...So you put them in the Midwest and they you have hail, supercells, tornadoes, floods, dust and pollen, thieves, losing farmland...So then you try Florida, and you have hail, pollen, hurricanes, tornadoes, losing farmland, floods, are you seeing a pattern here?
>>524082434In peak jew speak>GIB ME GIBS GOYIM
Elon Musk is not an inventor, nor is he an expert in physics, materials science or anything else. He is a South African Trust Fund baby who started off with billions of dollars of inherited wealth and parlayed that wealth in order to exploit the American taxpayer through lucrative government contracts. He is a sexual deviant who is obsessed with reproduction despite having inferior genes.Solar power is fine for a pocket calculator, but even if solar panels were 100% efficient, that would only be a threefold improvement in efficiency versus currently available units. The greater problem is how to store energy affordably.Elon Musk is in the business of selling lithium batteries which, incidentally are in lower than usual demand due to tanking sales for Tesla. He is promoting solar power systems because he sells the batteries for those systems. Just as with the cars, you get about four years out of an $8,000 battery and then you have to heft over even more money.I am currently recommending adoption of intra-molecular fusion and/or gravitothermoelectric generation which is made practical by a thermoelectric converter plate of high efficiencySolar is nothing compared to the power of the atom, but your scientists do not understand that atoms are a steady power source which do not require fission or fusion to enable the release of energy. Gravitothermoelectric takes care of that.https://mega.nz/folder/YE5RzaRK#FqKLdtp5sdwxYr_7A37mewSee 17 December 2025 for that publication and feel free to check out the others. We even have a way to trigger thermonuclear reactions without a fission trigger.
>>524082987Elon isn't dumb, the only thing Tesla does that is actually profitable their battery tech which is bought to compliment solar systems and other green energy drek. This is the only reason he shills so hard for renewable energy stuff.
>>524082434he really likes doing drugs around christmas doesn't he
>>524082434He is right on that one. How many gazillions have been invested into fusion reactor shit and stupidly expensive "unfailalable reactors" but nothing has been spent on offloading to space and on power sattelites. Start producing ultra light solar foil goddamnit and mine the fuck out of empty space
>>524082434Yet if someone had a viable prototype, he'd buy the company and claim he's one of the main engineers.
Why are we paying water companies when the oceans are filled with free water duh
>>524083765The news said he died, how would I know beyond that? All I noticed is the connection.
>>524084182He has no family to spend time with.
>>524084080Not really. China must have chick magic protecting theirs then. Or maybe its a ploy and fake panels?
>>524082434The sun isn't a fusion reactor. Just because our best scientists think it is doesn't make it correct. Our arrogance will be our downfall. This is also why Tokamaks don't work, the science is all fundamentally flawed
>>524082434So fusion will probably make solar projects go bankrupt. Elon has money in solar. He’s also a child.
>>524082434>power produced 'in the solar system' 99.9999% of which is inaccessable from earth's surface
>>524082434>sperg melty>news
>>524082434What a low IQ take by a low IQ DARPA stooge
>>524084377>So fusion will probably make solar projects go bankruptNo shit. They're extremely inefficient at the moment and for the forseeable future and a huge part of Eylon's business is solar.
>>524082434This is fucking retarded. EXTREMELY retarded. This is either some self interest thing or he's actually truly not very intelligent.
>>524083917They couldn't
>>524084144Some interesting stuff in there anon.Know anything about optical phase conjugation? Or pulse compression using a Bose Einstein Condinsate of ceasium vapors?
Fusion will make Russia rich.
>>524083869Energy lost in transmission.
>>524084179The spectacular waste of resources in all those short lived batteries versus having enormous amounts of power in any climate at all times with fusion makes all the math so obvious that it's insulting he wrote this.
>>524084412you dont need that much
>>524082616I'd say 2040 by the way things are going
>>524084327Chinese magic is using coal power and putting up cheap fake solar panels for show. Congrats, you fell for it.
>>524084327China burns most of the coal in the world and is experimenting with nuclear power.Solar accounts for a single digit percentage of their electricity.
>>524084507Solar thermal is better in those areas anyway. Like using mirrors pointed at the ground to heat up special rocks that retain the heat all night that can then boil water and turn a turbine.Photovoltaics suck unless it's a metamaterial
>>524083722The big thing is beam injection. I have no idea why they didn't figure that out decades ago.
>>524084477How? Your entire economy is banked on selling oil
>>524082434>Battery salesman mad about increasing base load
>>524084144>>524084471OR how about frame decoupling in a rotating super fluid?
>>524084545they do not last 100 years
why is anyone taking this MKULTRA traumatized puppet seriously
>>524084268The news and government are not trustworthy sources IMO.I think they're extremely close to a fusion breakthrough and are about to put it into action to power their datacenter war-surveillance state.
>>524082434What
>>524084354The geometry of the tokamak is fucking retarded.
>>524084454I'm not an enemy of solar, just pointing out the faultiness of elon's argument. You don't always have access to sufficient sunlight nearby and fusion, or whatever other fuel source, is good to have. It's not invalidated by the existence of the sun. Even in your picture, what good is it having solar panels in africa? Niggers will just take them apart and sell the pieces.
>>524084603I'm sure they did behind closed doors.They like to waste our money with the other billions of dollar projects while simultaneously creating peripheral technologies (super conducting magnets and high powered lasers) that they can use for other things.
>>524084578Oh. That's a lot of fake panels
>>524082434He sells batteries. So of course he hates nuclear energy. He wants the world covered in Tesla solar panels and batteries mined by nigger slaves.
Musk is right in that the entire premise of fusion reactors is based on an outdated idea of how stars work. Just focus on fission and new ways to digest the waste.
>>524082616>>5240845522 more weeks
>>524084789>Musk is right in that the entire premise of fusion reactors is based on an outdated idea of how stars work.No it fucking isn't.
>>524083077It's so fucking annoying how people attack free energy as nonsense "perpetual motion machines" as though there are at least a dozen different EFFECTIVELY limitless power generators on earth>Ocean currents>Thermal energy from the earth>Thermal energy from the sun>Wind>Fucking volcanoes>Nuclear>Countless chemical processes that generate energy from near limitless resources on earth like plants>The literal rotation of the earth and the moon, the moon ain't locked to the earth so there's immense force there. There are many ways to power humanity for free forever and yet it's somehow labeled a conspiracy. Like bitch we are on a rock spinning thousands of miles an hour with oceans pushing a billion gallons around everyday forever. How the fuck do we need to lay for electricity? Did you know electricity was free when it first came out in America and most places? They had a limit for how much you could pull at once but other it was totally free
>>524083722>Dr Bussy
>>524082434You could power an entire city off of the motion from incels masturbating all day. Maybe we should just harness that shit.
>>524084766I just want good old fashioned tried and proven fission reactors everywhere. The safest form of power generation the world has ever known. The entire premise shouldn't be condemned because some retarded communist wanted to show off how big his balls are and how small his brain is.
>>524082434Nuclear is the future that was taken from us in the 60s you pajeet-lover. Solar panels are only 30% efficient.
>>524084812kys newfag
>>524082434Okay Elon where is the power coming from ? Solar ? Wind ?Both are pathetic failures for large scale energy production. Coal oil and gas are by far the cheapest least polluting. Do you have information about break through power production?
>>524082616>>524084552you people are so doombrained. the world is going to go on without you, stop thinking everyone is as depressed and inert as you are
>>524084835>Dr. Bob Bussy
>>524082815>We should do more geothermalYellowstone could hypothetically power all of North America for free indefinitely
>>524084144And he rapes kids. Don't forget all the kids he sodomized
>>524084578>china is putting up cheap fake solar panels for showwhy would they do that?they produce 85% of the solar panels globally.retard.
>>524084819They're chasing a dragon with fusion reactors. It's a fanciful meme. Stars don't even work like that, look at the state of the standard model of cosmology. It's a fucking joke because they're clinging to outdated theories.
>>524084812Can I use that ?
>>524085003It has fuck all to do with stars. You're a retard.
Seems odd that a shit twitter clone would merge with a fusion research company, don't you think?
Yeah, let us just do a cheeky little trip to Mercury and launch a Dyson sphere real quick.
>>524082434>le Iron Man IRL says a science thingBoy, has that ship ever sailed. He got hent over like a bitch thanks to DOGE, unless what he was doing was looting the US under pretense. So, hang him or just stop listening?
>>524085030The entire premise of fusion reactors is recreating what they think a star does, creating a self-sustaining reaction "just like nature does" quit talking out of your ass you stinky jeet. The premise is flawed and it will never happen.
>>524085066*bent
>>524085090No, it fucking isn't. It's recreating what happens in a thermonuclear weapon.
>>524084884>I just want good old fashioned tried and proven fission reactors everywhereYes, first we need to achieve 100% of electrical demand through nuclear reactors, then we can focus on fusion.
okay lets put solar panels over your house so you cant see the Sun anymore Elon Reminder humanity needs nuclear power x10 currently and this guy thinks solar panels are the future lmao
>>524082434Solar has it's uses but it's too unreliable for base load power. Batteries are still hot garbage so you need other sources at night or when it's overcast. Plus solar ruins the landscape and even looks ugly on rooftops.Fusion is a good long term goal, but 4th gen fission is a better short term solution.
>>524084995>why would they do that?Because then they can claim they're being "green". Chinese are all about fake appearances when it comes to dumb shit like this. They know solar is retarded. To them it's a grift. Stupid westerners buying this retarded technology from them while they put up fake solar fields saying "see, they work, buy some now, we give you great deal, buy 100 get 5 free!".Chinese are shrewd fuckers. Very crafty.
>>524082434>Jeelon Musk is agaisnt fusionQuelle le surprise?
>>524084941If globalist Jews get their way , 95 % of the worlds population will be home by 2030 , dimmy
>>524082434he sounds jealous
>>524084931Even if they put solar panels in space how will they transfer the generated electricity to earth? His argument is fucking retarded because they haven't even figured out how to do it.
>technology that draws energy from the sun>attach it to a rotating globe that only directly faces the sun a fraction of the 24 hour periodthis cunt needs to invent solar panels for space that face the sun constantly and a method to transfer the energy back to earthnot sure what the risk would be for space debris smashing them but i would've thought panels would last longer than on earth too
>>524085470A literal fucking death ray that if anyone decides to put up it should be shot down immediately.
>>524082616CopeSolar is great. Had em up since COVID Duke energy pays $40-$75 me every month for my excess
>>524085535>a method to transfer the energy back to earthThis. Unless he plans to send back charged batteries or some shit which is even more retarded. Kek, goddamn man MI6 Musk is exposing himself.
>>524082750I love jeets even more! Who gives a shit if they're all retarded scammers who ruin everything they "work harder" and kiss my ass every single day!
>>524084468Would an intelligent person pay someone to play games for them and then claim credit for it as their own achievements?
>>524082434You(s)https://youtu.be/aqyjQ6-avK8
>>524085535The only way to send a usable amount of energy down is microwaves, which is a literal orbital death ray.
>>524086034It seems unlikely.
>>524086034An incredibly narcissistic con artist would
>>524082434I’ll get shit on for this but nuclear power is overrated based on what we’ve seen from China’s reactors in recent years. They’re finding solar to be much better for upgrading the grid
>>524086223why can't they use bigger waves more like radio, or even bigger
>>524082434Stupid Elon. We should harvesting super massive black hole at the center of milky way. Sun is like a nuclear plant compared to that big boys potential.
Planet earth will never use any sort of GOOD energy system that is convenient and beneficial for mankind as a whole because oil niggers will kill off anyone trying to share such systems. It's not even something they hide, it's a fact of life. You wanna make a car that can run on nothing but water? You're fucking dead, faggot. Clean free energy for everyone so they don't have to worry about a power bill? Tell that to the 2 bullets in the back of your head, cocksucker. It's a fact of life that you WILL die if you wanna rock the oil boat and other jewy systems.
>>524085797even with batteries, what about a fleet of drones up above the clouds following the path of the sun every day?fit whatever weight they can lift with a combination of panels and batteries and just land them at the same place each day to harvest the energy gathered
ANY COLOR AS LONG AS IT'S BLACK>YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING IF YOU JUST GIVE IT BACK
>>524086365The key issue is usable amount of energy. No matter what you use it's an orbital weapon. Megawatts or gigawatts of power in a small area.
>>524086381The oil boat has been diluted by trillions of dollars of liquidity. Old gray mare aint what she used to be. Also the chinks just won't care.
>>524086381There might be a wavelength that will just bounce off the earth unless aimed at a particular machinery made to catch it
>>524084412>inaccessable from earth's surfaceguaranteed hes talking about putting solar panels in space. he basically has a monopoly on space access at this point.
>>524086580Meant for :>>524086438
>>524082613it can't be donenot with the current technologynot unless we unlock free energy here on Earth firstAnd even then it won't be a sphere, but an array of satellites orbiting the Sun and harnessing the energyBut how will this energy be stored/transported?It would only be usable in nearby space stations and for people willing to live full-time as astronauts
>>524082434>CIA/DARPA puppet says NOOO GOYIM DON'T USE NUCLEAR POWER IT'S ANTISEMETIC!
>>524082434This nigga believes in parallel universes and shit kek
>damn white people and their free power!!
>>524082434he is 100% correct on this onefusion is only good for bombs and propulsion andnothing elsethere is no such thing as cold fusion and no such thing as a net fusion reactor besides the suneverything else is a wasteful hobby pet project that would sink everyone's tax dollarsonly saboteurs would say otherwise
>>524083343yeah he's a fucking imbecile
Sure just let me hook a turbine up to the sun real quick. >No retard, just use a solar panel that captures 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000p00001% of the suns energy outputOh, so now it suddenly doesn't sound more efficient than a fusion reactor.
Magnets. How do they work? No one knows.
>>524086395It would take more energy to send them up than they’d collect
>>524083663you're fucking gay
>>524088224>No one knowsThat's not the next line>And no I didn't wanna talk to a scientist>Y'all motherfuckers lyin' and gettin' me pissed
>>524082434Put AI in the orbit. Nobody will know how much money we are wasting over there. Could be $100T. It will save our economy on Earth.
>>524088224No one really knows, but it probably has to do with subatomic charge or spin. That makes the most logical sense. It is funny how magnets can generate motion without using energy. A magnet gives uses no energy to create its field, and that field can do work without using energy. It always equals out, but it's still fascinating to consider.
>>524082434So the man who is for the most part in charge of our space program doesn't think we'd need a substantial, reliable power source off-earth. Check.
>>524082434says the faggot operating EV factories whose cars have to replace batteries every 5 years that cost almost the price of a car. sole reason I am sticking with ICE because I am not retarded to pay again in 5 years
>>524084912The efficiency doesn’t matter when the source is unlimited. The real problem with solar panels is they are rated only for 20 years and require some upkeep in terms of cleaning.
>>524084812Tumor weeks
>just pave over 600 acres of farmland and have 6000 tons of lithium to power a computer that can't count the number of fingers a human has
>>524082434This is why I'll still watch the occasional Thunderfoot video.
That's not a jab at Trump, but Altman who has quite a huge stake in Oklo.https://oklo.com/overview/default.aspxAnd some other company that I can't remember right now, but this is the one making portable nuclear reactors iirc
>>524089205He's smarter than you though
>>524085593SameNo solar fags will never know and thats fine. You can power your house forever with a one time $10,000 investment. Imagine paying the power company. I hope they enjoy those AI data centers. kek. Not my problem
>>524084684Type 1 Energy is building a fusion reactor near my house. I spoke to a VP at the company and it seems legit. They need hydrogen, lithium and (ytritium?) I think. Basically a big figure 8 reactor that is sef sustainable once it’s turned on.
>>524089834what good all those smarts if I never give him my money. he had a headstart of almost a decade and chinks overtook him with ease. I see 1 tesla for 100 chink EV cars. no one gives a shit about driving tesla outside retard fanboys such as yourself. his cars don't even look good compare to other EV on the market. without gov't gibs his shit would shut down long ago
>>524082434Elon Musk is unironically retarded and the fact that he has any money at all instead of dying of starvation under a bridge is one of the greatest tragedies of this era
>>52408494190% of the population of africa is artifically inflated by western aid.the TFRs of countries with an IQ of 100 or more are below replacement level.So yeah, once half the white population is gone in like 30-50 years, there will be no more gibs for africa, causing mass starvation.
>>524089834he's not even particularly smart. he's a fucking cringe retard and so are you
>>524082434Geothermal
>>524082815What if we just hooked the gym treadmills to the electricity grid and powered the nation with physical fitness?
>>524089996He's likely operating on behalf of secret societies. Him being in any way self-made doesn't make sense. He doesn't bring anything to the table.
>>524084650Nor does any current generation facilities. Even the most mundane shit has replacement cycles as shit wears out.
>>524090377There was a black mirrors episode about that, they used stationary bikes.
>>524090606>Black mirrorHow did they turn my great idea into a dystopia?
>>524090871Jewish producers
>>524084916This time for sure, right bro
>>524082434Solar is a terrible fucking waste
>>524082613>>524086667The total mass of all the planets, asteroids, and comets (including the Oort cloud), excluding the Sun, is approximately 450 times Earth.If you were able to use 100% of that material to make a 1cm thick "shell" to capture the energy, you'd still only have coverage of 0.00014% of the fucking sun.Dyson spheres are a retarded idea.
>>524083122I fucking hate this board.I come here and only see posts like these, always praising conspiracies, insulting smart people, an utter waste of time.
>>524082434Love Elon but this is as retarded as his h1b visa jeet take.1) Yes the sun has lots of energy but we fucking don't have the tech to harvest it efficiently. Solar panels and wind are dogshit. Until we can harvest bigger chunks of the sun's energy we have to take smaller steps.2) Nuclear power is proven and makes sense. So smaller reactors also makes sense.3) You wanted to make Electric vehicles viable, then you did it. Then if you want to harvest more of the sun's energy THEN DO IT. Don't try to convince others to not do an alternative until YOU have found the solution to harvesting more of the sun's power.
>>524091714He wants to sell batteries. Fusion making electricity dirt cheap would cut in on that business.
>>524084820>Did you know electricity was free when it first came out in America and most places? They had a limit for how much you could pull at once but other it was totally freeFactually incorrect, it was a luxury/prohibitively expensive
>>524082434What will you do when the elonjeet blocks the sun over your house and tries to charge you a monthly subscription to get it back?
>>524082434He wants to build some really long pipes that go all the way to the sun so we can send water through the pipes and boil it to turn turbines on earth.
What fusion reactors, no one has fucking fusion reactors.
>>524084820>Earth moves>thus energy freeHow are we going to maintain the expensive, massive infrastructure to transform and transport that free energy into a standardized form usable in your house? Thoughts and prayers?
>>524083917Agree 100%.I know that a lot of this stuff was created by the Military years ago and they can't come right out and say, "Yes, this is military that we have tested on the general population without there knowledge for years" so they give the idea to one of their chosen puppets. Someone who they can blackmail, someone who is not 100% stable in the head so they have a excuse to kick them to the curb if they get uppity. Someone book smart but not common sense/street smart.The one thing I have not figured out is if they picked this spaz on purpose because he is so unlikable? Or did they underestimate how unlikable he would be?If they picked an American who wasn't a spineless retard, maybe more people would be on board with all the gaslighting
>>524091833Then he should be willing to begin converting his company's infrastructure towards fusion instead of screaming so much.All the energy that oil companies spend on silencing and killing opposition could've been spent on improving their own systems or adapting them instead.
>>524091983He can use my LONG ASS DICK
>>524082434Elon is a faggot.Cold fusion / aneutronic fusion aka LENR is the future.
>>524082434Is that why they killed that scientist?
>>524082613Dyson spheres are a meme when we have aneutronic fusion.
>>524092118Yep he's acting like an oil company. Fusion is the future, and with improved magnets (all that "AI" infrastructure can be used for materials science simulation), it can be miniaturized.
>>524092154Maybe for batteries.
>>524084144Exactly. You described him near perfectlyIt's embarrassing.
>>524082434>retard says retard stuff againanyone can see that the solar panels waste is unsustainable. nuclear fusion is the future.
>>524092165Doesn't really make sense. There's a lot of fusion startups around now.
>>524082434He has to push as much bullshit as possible to claim that 1 trillion dollar bonus in a few years. Do not believe a word he says.He is doing his best to destroy this planet and I'm sick and tired of people ignoring this fact.
>>524092153How does that produce electricity?
>>524082434He's right though.>In a single day earth is exposed to a potential 173 petawatts of solar power>23x the amount of energy the entire world uses in a yearEffeciently harvesting and storing solar power is a vastly more worthwhile pursuit than any other form of energy.
>>524092208Nope. Multiple companies have it working already like Helion fusion and ENG8. TAE fusion too that Trump just bought out.This is literal UFO tech.Did you ever here about the portable reactor the US Navy made like 5 years ago and went disappeared? This is it!
>>524086667>spheresphere is the most retarded way to do it. the real way do do it it drones that would look like a dust cloud around our sun from far away,
>>524092335Helion and TAE aren't doing LENR...
>>524082434Musk doesn't seem to realize that the tech just isn't there to do this yet and may never beour species is too immature to use the technology we have effectively
>>524092330Solar panels are a meme. The aneutronic plasmoid reactors are the future. ENG8 here in bongland has their tech using water as the fuel.
>>524092385Yes they are. It's all to do with making plasmoids.
Whatever it is they should just pick something alreadyI dont think anyone cares anymoreSolar, nuclear, oil, natural gas, wind, coalJust fucking pick something already assholes.
>>524092476They're not low energy though?
>>524082815>We should do more geothermalNah we should be building liquid thorium molten salt fission reactors we have hundreds of years of breedable thorium fuel in our coal reserves and can use Fischer-tropf on the coal to make liquid hydrocarbon fuel using process heat from the LFTRs. All other energy sources are memes in comparison. China is building these btw, and just proved out thorium breeding and online refueling. These reactors are fail safe, proliferation resistant and can even burn existing nuclear waste into shorter lived isotopes.
>>524083484because he most likely went off the rez.pure Jack Reacher 1 plot.1200 camera on Browns campus and Lazlow ID's him after he kills the MIT classmate.
>>524084941Yes, the earth will go. But without a majority of the human population, you circumcised kike pet retard.
>>524082434Seems like Elon Musk never has anything nice to say unless it's about himself.
>Just 20 more years until we have stable continuous hot fusion reactorsFusion scientist say that for 50 years
>>524092807Fusion is a meme that has never got anywhere near over unity production it's designed to suck down grant money and generate headlines
>>524084144look at how he aquired Solar City after state of NY spent 750,000,000 on it.Lithium battery scamLithium is $300 a ton to mine. The govt mined this the last 12 years all over USA. all the solar programs failed and are being shelved by Trump.The waste piles of all these lithum mines contain rare earth minerals that are $300 to $400 an ounce. all for military weapons. all being gobbled up by private companies.the usa is being destabilized before our eyes.federal govt is being stripped of power so states can have a yard sale of their assets.all Whores.Beware of foreign Influence?we need every tampon on earth to shove up uncle sam's ass to stop the bleeding from the raping USA has taken the last 35 years.
>>524082434The Sun is inherently worthless because it can't be monopolized. Nobody seems to understand that these people don't want to solve problems, they want to make money on the solution. To them the only problem in the universe is not being paid rent.
>>524092432>aneutronicNow THAT is a meme. Just another kike investment cumhole. Their first plant is 50MW and they're only planning to build 350-500MW plants in the future. That's not enough half the output of a nuclear plant and lower than most natural gas plants. There's already solar farms generating power far in excess of any of above, and it's a tech still very much in its infancy.
>>524092014the hilarious thing is if we did have a working model, it would represent literally free unlimited energy which is more enomical than trying to harvest the suns energy due to it's distance
>>524082613How do you even transfer the energy from a Dyson sphere back to earth?
>>524082613This is like living in the year 500 and thinking that an upper class businessman is trying to swindle money from the king to build a Boeing 747.
>>524092866The current fusion generators are not build for energy production, only to generate a short fusion for maximum a few seconds. Look at the stellarator, which has a really cool fluid dynamic design but no way of efficiently harnessing the generated energy. Also the Tokamak does not provide that, plus both tend to break down easily because the tiles or the coils burn through
>>524082815If you tapped Yellowstone you could power the whole country. Only issue would be building transmission lines but i'm sure HDVC would work well. We wouldn't need solar or wind and we'd also slowly cool the caldera so it wouldn't erupt again and kill everything.
>>524082434Elon Musk's mother is an enormous free fuck but she's useless not on my cock, much like the sun is useless as a fusion reactor 149.6 million kms from us.
>>524082434The man child speaks again and is also wrong once again.
>>524093078You don't retard, everyone would live on the inside of the sphere.
>>524084820>there’s energy in some form a trillion miles away that’s impossible to turn into electricityWho fucking cares
Advances in battery technology, especially with the new solid state AG-C cells that Samsung invented are going to make centralized power generation obsolete in the future for household use. It's only big industry and those insane server farms that are going to need the traditional generation scale.
>>524082434>just build a dyson sphere brohow>uhhh
>>524093211I think it's kind of understood it might not be a good idea to be drilling.
>>524082434>man heavily invested in selling solar panels doesnt want his government gibs going to anything else, especially something that is actually efficient and creates a lot of energy at almost no relative costwow thats so surprising.
>>524093566Batteries and storage tech how are they going to fix the generation side?
>>524084752especially with lasers, maybe it is possible to generate a fusion with an ungodly amount of femtosecond lasers, all aimed with their focal point at the wolfram tip which provides the He3. The primary cooling circuit could be layed out more efficiently, component breakdown rates would be significantly reduced
>>524093865because of plasma effects this would work best in a vacuum without gravition, i.e. space
>>524092324He denies it because this tech can be used for propulsion and it puts his entire Space X rocket business in the trash.
>>524093838It doesn't, solar and wind will always be shit in themselves, but a battery that can take and store the energy created when it's created, they charge twice as fast as current lithium batteries and degrade at a much slower rate with a much higher energy density. Generating electricity has never been that difficult, you can do it on a bike, the problem has always been having the stuff available when you want to use it and not be peddling said bike.
>>524082434Going mostly solar makes the species vulnerable to mini ice ages and dust in the atmosphere. The best option is a mix of solar and thorium reactors. He should be building thorium reactors in giga factories and having machines bring them online as fast as possible.
>>524094352Yeah I hear you solar and wind are still inferior compared to this >>524092555They take up way too much land and of course have the reliability issues. Super high tech batteries could smooth demand even in my scenario though
>>524093865>>524093997Well I never really understood the long term plan for the current laser method (purely internal confinement, focused lasers all trying to compress a fuel pellet) because they even admit it's being tested as a one off (single shot) proof of concept demonstration model. They don't have a way to collect energy with it yet, or sustain the fusion reaction. They just fire it once at a time to see how it goes. Electrostatic inertial confinement on the other hand is inherently something that would sustain the reaction when perfected.Look up the Farnsworth Fusor You can build one yourself if you're inclined, just don't expect it to put out more energy than you put in....but I still think it would be a more viable method to pursue overal
>>524082434This tweet brought to you by Tesla solar.
>>524094754Lol right. Like the other anon said somewhere in here, the guy is tied to the lithium battery industry which solar relies on
>>524089903They're not going to have enough resources unless Russia where to give up Donetsk and Venezuela were to make a deal with the us. All of the other potential deposits are either in Iran or controlled by China.
>>524082434Nuclear is something no one does for stupid reasons that would make the first country to adopt it in a meaningful way quite a bit more powerful. Anyone opposing nuclear is immediately suspicious. Like they are trying to sabotage the country. Trump is super based for supporting nuclear.
>>524093865Unless you mean the Wolfram tip would continually supply the fuel Like a nuclear bunson burner lolI never understood why they don't leverage radial polarization or purely asmuthal polarization for the current ICF laser facility. They only use linearly polarized beams for some reason.
>>524092990It's the future you clown.Unlimited almost free energy. The holy grail.
>>524095383Sounds like a jewish scam, i dont believe you
>>524095472>scamIt is
>>524094838Well that's flat out wrong.
he's so fucking retarded lmaofusion reactors are tiny and can be put undergroundsolar panels are fucking ugly, you require millions of them and they take up massive amounts of spacesomeone fkn shoot this retarded faggot already
>>524095472>>524095771What the fuck do you know about aneutronic fusion and plasmoids? Nothing....
>>524089888lmao you think solar panels last forever?
>>524082434Someone tell him about energy density, because per unit of mass the sun is about as efficient as a compost heap.Good luck with that compost heap driven car, Elon.
>>524096714Protons is where it's at.
>>524082434Why is this faggot so against nuclear?
>>524082434Didn't Elon already explain to Joe Rogan that solar panels are as efficient as they'll ever get?
>>524096791They last a few decades. Better lifespan than a typical generator. All infrastructure requires maintenance and replacements but you Jewish shills pretend it's only solar that requires it.
>>524082434I wonder why he's so gung ho about solarhttps://www.tesla.com/solarroof
>>524082434well he has a solar power company so he is a bit biased.
>>524097556Because like the oil tycoons, it would put an end to his business of selling batteries.
>>524097806chinkoid learn to read a reply chain
>>524082434>Stop making nuclear fusion reactorshow many we have?
>>524092330according to your math, if solar panels had 100% efficiency, we would need to cover 1/23 of the earth to meet our current needs, needs which will probably double within our lifetimes anyways. so now we're covering over 1/12 of the surface in solar panels. but the top solar panels only have an efficiency of 25% so really we would have to cover 1/3 of the earth in solar panels.one third of the earths surface covered in solar panels. obviously thats retarded. so put them in orbit? well now you're blocking the sun and killing the plans and freezing the planet.
>>524082434He just wants solar so he can sell his gay ass batteries.
>>524098763First of all reread the post. in A DAY the earth is exposed to 23x the earths YEARLY needs. Also you have no idea how space based solar collectors would work if you think they'd be placed between us and the sun. or that they'd even shade the earth.HOLY FUCK YOU'RE RETARDED, go huff on some more leaded gasoline.
>>524098902i'm retardedso just do the math and tell me what percentage of the earths surface you want to cover in solar panels. include an estimate on future energy consumption which will at least double. and account for the loss of efficiency transmitting energy over wires from the solar farms to the cities. assume efficiency of 25% on the panels. oh also account for loses from battery storage.
>>524096009>solar panels a
>>524097556It's a scam
>>524082434
>>524084682because he obviously has inside info and is reacting to it///he knows shit that we dont
>>524093078A big cable
>>524093078what earth? if you cover the sun in solar panels the earth will die. that's why the kardeshev scale is retarded.
>solar salesman says buy more solar collectorswow that's crazy
>>524082434Elon is right about Solar energy.
>>524082434This is dumb because your solar collectors are also "tiny". You can't compare fusion against a dyson sphere you can't build
>>524082434Time for more Island invasions.
>>524082613Kek, the only logical conclusion
>>524082434This guy is a fucking menace to the species in the worst imaginable way. Arguably the worst human on Earth adjusted for the amount of money he has. He makes the interferences of other billionaires look humanitarian.
>>524082434A vehicle can run on a "tiny" reactor. It cannot run on the sun, by the time its energy reaches us there's barely enough to absorb.
elon is a fucking retard, stop listening to that drugged up nepo baby
>>524103992Most people say he's a genius, what makes your assessment better?
Nuclear fags btfo, we still boil water to make steam and convert that to energy, why the fuck would anyone use nuclear when the sun is free and solar panels are cheap as dirt.
>>524086667afaik, solar power collection in orbit, and then transmitting it to surface via microwave, and collecting with a ground based collector is technologically possible. Albeit with extreme cost, if your launch costs are still as expensive as they are now. Even if Musk's schizo projections about starship turn out to be true, the cost would be big huge.On Mars though, that calculation changes. You'd have to invest a lot of resources, and probably need to deconstruct/dismantle the lowest orbiting moon, but Mars gravity is low enough that you could make an orbital ring using current materials science. Then anchor it to the ground, and just collect functionally infinite solar energy.Nuclear is our best interim option, both uranium and thorium cycles have enough fuel around that we could keep that going at current energy demands for a few centuries. But the real answer is to reduce population, especially in the 3rd world. If you halved the population, focusing on India, China, and Africa, you could reduce energy needs immensely, and more realistically power the civilization for those remaining people with a combination of wind/solar/battery storage.It will never happen though, oligarchs love their ever growing cattle count, because it's an easy way to make GDP go up.
>>524082613It's literally impossible.
>>524104386possible but a complete waste of time
>>524082434this man is utterly retarded
>>524105094No he's not
>>524086198>we could touch the sky if we get on our feet and tryHow do you not shoot yourself in the fucking face writing this shit.
>>524086667Can radiation be transmitted via diamagnetic nodes via semiconductors over long distances? Pretty sure a series of transformers can get the job done on the ground. But transmission lossesndue to heat and signal noise will be a huge problem for efficiency.
>>524082434I want nuclear plants because I hate solar fags. I don't about the science I just want to see the chimpout.
>>524092555>Nobody to build plants>Nobody to staff plants>Decades to build plants>Tens of billions to build plantsNuclear is a dead industry in the West.
>>524092918>federal govt is being stripped of power so states can have a yard sale of their assets.Based. Federalism was a mistake amd Alexander Hamilton is in hell
>>524085593since beginning of december, sun shined only 16hours total... fuck your solar bullshit scam, i dont live in desert like you, we need nuclear power
>>524089888you cant.. only in summer it kinda works, but in the winter the sun is not shining much...you cant power your house forever... first - in the night it does not work, you need batteries and second since november till march there is fucking NO sun and one hours of light full of clouds is not enough
>>524107233And what are your qualifications? Well?He's a visionary. The richestman in the world. You're fucking NOTHING
>>524082434Maybe we need a sun sipper of our own.
>>524082434I hate when retards act like everything is an either/or scenarios.Fucking do both. Put your stupid panels on every flat surface you have, AND make nuclear. Worse comes to worst, you turn down power production when you have a surplus if they're both that fantastic.
>>524092570Book, movie, or series? Randomly just watched the first movie the other day.
>>524082434Solar is not effective enough at generating power, we would need to send a massive mass of solar pannels towards the sun close enough to harness its power but far enough to that the equipment doesnt burn up to get all the energy needed like he wants but thats absolutely imfucking possible and so is simply filling earths empty space with a ton of solar panels the people need a better solution to the energy crisis other then wind solar and rotary motion, only a fool would take it off the table because HURR DURR THE SUN IS THERE, We have Thorium deposits that could power cities for years and they're more safer then anything from what the science has told.
It's so easy to point out the obvious flaw in his argument (that our way of directly harnessing the sun's energy (solar) isn't necessarily our best way of generating power or anywhere near as efficient as direct fusion power) that I'm genuinely wondering why the fuck he's even talking. Like, shut up you dumbshit.
>>524082616The need for nuclear power is 100% due to over population. City fags are unironically there own worst enemies.
>>524082434That would require a dramatic shift in the collective consciousness.One we are denied bearing witness to.
>>524082434>jfcThat’s crude.
>>524082434>what are you burning coal for, you retards? don't you know we have forest fires? go harness those!
>>524082616> 95% of humanity will be dead by 2100> humanity You mean humans alive today. Humanity will of course go on.
>>524082987>im gonna pooooop
>>524086667you cant circle the sun and you cant circle the moon.satellites that suck energy from the sun, holy shit you people are so retarded.
>>524082434>https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000331928109809757What a demented retard.
>>524082434Has anyone told Musk about Thorium plants yet?
>>524082613There's not enough matter in solar system for a dyson sphere.
>>524082987Company taking 90% of earths payloads to space status?
>techstart doing this>>524100567>>524100567>>524100567
Daily reminder. Only reason solar/wind even pays off at this moment is due to government subsidies. Funnily enough certain countries started limiting how much solar you can produce due to these incentives generating too many solar energy during the day but theres's not enough at night.
>>524109381Turns out economics mean nothing in the face of subsidies.
>>524091609didn't realize the sun was that big, thanks
>>524082434>Dyson sphere/swarm meme>can't even send someone to Mars as promisedTypical grift from Musk. L
>>524082434>build quidrillion fucking panels which needs hand holding like an autistic child>or>two 2 fucking fusion reactor and call it a day
>>524092118>All the energy that oil companies spend on silencing and killing opposition could've been spent on improving their own systems or adapting them instead.You're as retarded as Melon Husk if you think that's true. It's not that oil companies are silencing other energy sources it's that most other sources are retarded or cannot be compact enough, e.g., you cannot put a nuclear reactor in a car.
>>524082434Says the guy who sells solar panels.
The fact that Musk doesn't have a company working on cracking fission or fusion powers says an awful lot.
>>524082434Solar has no power density, is extremely inefficient (max of 19% heat rate), doesn't work at night (obviously) and is significantly reduced according to weather, significant maintenance. The fact the sun is always there doesn't mean it's useful, you essentially can't store energy produced, as storage is either very expensive and resource intensive, or region dependent. Further, since it apparently needs to be said, solar panels don't grow on trees, you have to mine the resources out of the earth, process them, then manufacture the panels with them. They're not a "0 carbon" solution, they're not freebies by any measure. The lack of power density means it wastes space that could just be a vastly smaller foot print for a nuclear plant. It, like wind, is a fucking eyesore, unnecessarily ruins the natural beauty of the land. That low heat rate means they dump 80% of the energy back into the atmosphere, so you create local heating, and in general, you actually heat up the planet more than other power generation methods, even petrol when accounting all sources. I'll admit solar is nice for calculators.Capture was made easier... strange.
>>524109829captcha*
Nuclear power would have been one of the safest and most efficient means of tackling power needs. Every home could have it's own tiny reactor setup and it would be nigh retard proof. Free energy for multiple lifetimes and it wouldn't be anymore dangerous than conventional energy. This is what they really took from you.
>>524109900And whose fault is that?>ChernobylWhich is in what country?>UkraineI've never hated a country as much as that place.
>>524083722The problem with fusion is that the only isotopes suitable for mass scale production are so rare and difficult to produce there is no possible way to keep up production with demand and given the price point of fusion RND as it is, it's essentially a pointless endeavor unless some major advancements are madeThere was talking of building fusion pre-reactors to seed the isotopes needed to then run the larger reactors but even then global production capability simply cannot meet anywhere near the demand potential and tech as expensive as fusion requires a massive market saturation to warrant significant investment, rendering fusion in a state where it's not economically viable to peruse interest regardless of which way it is pitchedWere it even available, it would be by far the most expensive form of energy on the planet. Clean - sure, but cheap it is not
>>524110062Or programmers could just optimise their code. That would cut the planet's energy usage down by a really big fucking percentage lmao.
>>524110131>Or programmers could just optimise their codeGimmie Kimmy premium for 6 monthsThe ones that does the materials engineeringI need something but it can be done quickly I don't know mathI can have a new powerplant
>>524082974Musk plans to harness the flow of indians through the borders to spin a turbine.
