>People used to start violent revolutions over 1% raises in taxes>Now we pay 25% of our income in taxes and nobody rebelsWhat changed?
>>524085937seed oils
>>524085937the modern state provides far more in return
>>524085939Does it? I’m not exactly getting much welfare from the state.
>>524085940>Roads>Clean running water>clean food>electricityAnd those are just the biggest ones that alone have immeasurable cascading effects on your quality of life.Theres also the fact that isn't wasn't about "taxes" per-say, but about who was raising them, how they were being raised, under what authority they were being raised, and what they were being raised to pay for.
>>524085937Most people at the time were subsistence farmers so losing just 1% of what they had could be the difference between life and death for them and their family
>>524085941>>Roads>>Clean running water>>clean food>>electricityno those things just spontaneously pop into existence once you get far enough on the tech treewe don't need to pay taxes to maintain those things, the only things taxes go to are gay somali immigrants to pay for their 17 kids that all drive cadillacs and eat filet mignon every night
>>524085941They had roads in 1776 and you have to pay for your water and electricity separate from your taxes, those are paid for by utility bills
>>524085937the seethe was also over lack of home rule which was caused because we kept lynching tax collectors
>>524085941>>Clean running water>>clean food>>electricitymy taxes aren't giving me any of those things. I have to pay the utility for water and electricity and pay the store for food
>>524085937>Now we pay 25% of our income in taxes25%? Did you count "totally not taxes trust us guys" taxes such as mandatory medical insurance payments, pension payments etc? With them it's 50-70% taxes.
>>524085937Because most people live comfortable today even if they have to pay so many taxes. Back there people lived much worse and paying more taxes could mean your family starving to death.
Because we live in democracy repulics world where violence is shunned and discourse is encouraged.This is why those people violently rebelled while we just talk and talk about shit.
Nothing pacifies a population like them feeling assured that they are are going to get guaranteed warms meals for foreseeable future.
>>524085944>They had roads in 1776Is being retarded fun for you?
>>524085940>it doesn’tBut kike controlled grifters will continpusly gaslight you into paying hugh taxes to sustain >welfare parasites
>>524085937>1% raisesIt wasn't that low. The stamp tax for example had no fixed rate, you paid it any time you used various stamped papers, and depending how often you had to do that, it could bee crippling.There were also the Tea Act, where the issue wasn't really the high tax, but that it distorted the market in favor of British East India Company tea, and ruined the businesses of people importing cheap Dutch tea.
>>524085951nta but the bongs literally marched up old concord road (now called battle road) to concord and started the war at the old north bridge so they had roads and bridges
>>524085937Modern weaponry makes revolutions impossible. A bunch of peasants with pitchforks represented a real danger in 1500, the fuck's timmy gonna do now against the state military with tanks, drones, and guided missiles??
In the 20th Century, the Western World realized that revolutions were pretty much committed solely out of lack of options, lack of comfort, and starvation.Most Americans and Western Euros live enormously comfortable lives, even if they're poor. And no matter how poor you are, society makes sure that you have food. Either through SNAP, direct donations, or charity. Also note that nearly everyone will give homeless people food (but almost never money).Most people don't want to jeopardize comfortable survival, even if it means they get a better lot in life after revolution.
>>524085954Ah yes, that 8 lane superhighway of revolutionary America, how could he have forgot about that one. >>524085955They still happen, see the myriad examples from the third world. Tanks, drones and guided missiles mean very little if the men operating them like the revolutionaries more than you.
>>524085937You used to literally have to give physical money or crops to the tax authorities, nowadays its automatically deducted from your paycheck so you can't really refuse to pay.
>>524085946Yeah because you are an adults unlike that redditor you replied to.
>>524085951That wasnt financed by taxes lmao
>>524085941>RoadsI don’t use roads and the car has been a disaster for western civilisation. >Clean running waterI need to filter it because it’s full of human feces and turns frogs gay>clean foodThe butcher does that. >electricityThe private energy supplier does that
>>524085961>The butcher does that.Only when enforced by the FDA. Read The Jungle
>>524085937The cage got padded. You pay 25% to the bureaucratic entity that administers your antidepressants, student loans, and social credit. Revolt and they don’t send the cavalry. They just cancel your health insurance and freeze your bank account.
>>524085955>. A bunch of peasants with pitchforks represented a real danger in ... ACK!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie>the fuck's timmy gonna do now against the state military with tanks, drones, and guided missiles??Yeah there is point here. 1776 was middle of the period when People had largest military power in teh human history. During that period ultimate battlefield weapon was a man with amusket. And that military technology was within reach of ordinary people. Before when it was peasant vs knight and his castle it was hopeless. After (today ) when state military with tanks, drones, and guided missiles its hopeless again. USA get lucky to revolt when People could challenge the State for real.
>>524085954Do you think that modern infrastructure is the same as it was 250 years ago? It's like you're the ultimate midwit >>524085960I guess it's maintained with magic money that spawns out of nowhere
>>524085937I wonder how much of that tax money goes to the elite instead of the community???
>>524085964>After (today ) when state military with tanks, drones, and guided missiles its hopeless again.You're talking absolute drivel. Don't you remember that a mere 4 years ago the strongest nation that the world has ever seen, with a near endless supply of tanks, drones and guided missiles, lost a war to a cave dwelling rabble armed with second-hand AKs and homemade bombs. You can get a cheap drone with a live camera off Amazon for 100 bucks and bombs have never been hard to make for people with the will to do it. There's your drone and guided missile, and it's also the rock to tank's scissors.
>>524085957>Ah yes, that 8 lane superhighwaymoving the goal posts >>524085955didn't you fags seethe because a couple dozen boomers took over the capital building?
>>524085961>and the car has been a disaster for western civilisation.shalom>>524085965>Do you think that modern infrastructure is the samemoving the goal post, troon
>>524085967>lost a war to a cave dwelling rabblenothing can beat a man's will to rape goats and ban women from reading
>>524085966all of it, in both cases. >>524085937>>524085966they had other taxes in 1775. Like the actual individual towns would tax themselves to build stuff like the old north bridge
>>524085967>. Don't you remember that a mere 4 years ago the strongest nation that the world has ever seen, with a near endless supply of tanks, drones and guided missiles, lost a war to a cave dwelling rabble armed with second-hand AKs and homemade bombsUS lost proxy war to Pakistan and China, both nuclear states US couldn't go against directly.You cant get a AKs and explosives from Amazon.
>>524085967>we killed them so hard they fled to every nearby country and waited for us to get bored and leave >we lost less troops over 20 fucking years than the Russians did in a month of fighting in Ukraine Lmao If you really imagine Billy Bob the True Patriot has the capacity to cope with the sheer overwhelming power of the military and is willing to DIE and watch all his friends die for decades to achieve his ends you are fucking delusional.
>>524085967>a fucking homemade pipe bomb can defeat armor made of fucking depleted uranium Get real anon
>>524085972Cope. And even if it wasn't foreign powers are just as likely to support the sort of rebellion this thread is about. >>524085973Regardless the limiting factor there is human willpower, not weaponry. >>524085974Bit of luck and it's entirely possible, as Yemen and Ukraine have shown.
>>524085968>moving the goal postsWhy, are they not actually roads or built and maintained with tax? Something doesn't become a logical fallacy just because you're too retarded to think of it by yourself
>>524085972>>524085973>>524085974>no, only the goat rapists have the will to defeat the US because they want to rape goats so fucking much>>524085976they had roads and bridges in 1775, you gay retard
>>524085977>they had roads and bridges in 1775, you gay retardThey had dirt tracks and stone/wooden bridges, most of which were tiny things that'd let a single carriage across at a time (maintained by the local authority through a toll in lieu of tax). Any attempt to conflate the cost of that with their modern equivalent is beyond stupidity
>>524085978moving the goal posts, tranny
>>524085979Explain how, my bet is that you don't even know what those words mean
>>524085980>they didn't have roads>oh well they did but that doesn't countyou're gay and retarded
>>524085981I never said that you faggot. The crux of your argument is the equivalent of claiming that a modern aircraft carrier would cost the same as an old wooden frigate. This is of course stupid. If you still cannot see the flaw then you are beyond hope and your intellect might actually be improved by a lobotomy. I will say no more to you.
>>524085982>more goal post moving>more seethingyou got btfo'd retardo. take the L
>>524085937> Now we pay 25% of our income in taxes
>>524085955The destruction of local community has made revolution impossible. I don't know a single one of my neighbors. Without a local community there can be no resistance.
>>524085937The revolution was started by Englishmen who were having their rights as Englishmen violated.>>524086350This bong gets it.
>>524085937it probably wasn't over the tax thing then.https://archive.org/details/truehistoryofthe010276mbp/page/n6/mode/1up
Outbreeding.
>>524085937Globohomo is fucking huge. It's a gigantic machine and you can't beat it.
>>524085937Sexed out and afraid to die.
>>524085937it wasnt "da people" it was the colonial bourgeoisie and they dont need a revolution their taxes are lower then yours.
>>524085937It has always been folly to imagine everyone will spontaneously come together with their guns and fight off the government. If it hasn't happened yet, it's never going to happen.The thing that would threaten the government would be organization. An organized and trained fighting force goes up in effectiveness by geometric magnitudes.Ex] 100 organized men is more effective than 10,000 disorganized men. For that reason, the proper answer to ward off an overreaching federal government is the militia. That's whatthe feds fear most of all, that's why militias are infiltrated and rounded up. In reality if all our gun rights activism had been protecting our right to participate in a militia we'd be in a much stronger place today. Imagine if every district in this country had a powerful organized militia. Wanton gun ownership does not oppose federal power, it justifies it. As Thomas Hobbes said, anarchy justifies tyranny. Soon we will be living in a precrime police state because the wanton violence doesn't stop.The NRA is currently fighting things like background checks and licences because.of the fantasy of armed reolution. How much if this is a profit motive to sell gun culture? In reality if you cared about your rights and your freedom, you would be pushing for militias instead.People dont do revolutions (at least in America) because getting organized is next to impossible.
>>524086916not true. people just have to stop complying. grow your own food. trade with each other. don't get into debt slavery. the system stops working when people don't comply. when people find ways to exist outside of the system.
>>524085937Now they're pushed out of their own society and all they do is cry on the internet because they're afraid of real sacrifices
>>524085937Modern Whites are dickless cowards.
>>524085937Bro, it wasn't about taxes, the persecution centered around breaking away from jew banks in England, and came in many forms, including inciting the injun savages to raid colonies.Read the Declaration of Independence. It's actually a list of reasons.
>>524085941>RoadsAlways were a thing.>Clean running water>clean food>electricityYou have to pay extra bills for those.
>>524085955>Modern weaponry makes revolutions impossible.Peasants back then couldn't fight the army in a head-to-head fight either. They attacked poorly defendent objectives and strained the logistics. The army was stretched too thin to cover everything, so the country collapsed. The reason modern revolutions are harder is because of globohomo. Almost every country that matters has agreed to not fight each other ever since WW2, so they have specialized their military into suppressing their own population.
