https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-5PhZJfX4>Archaeologists have excavated these mounds for decades, finding the remains of these powerful men buried with their weapons, their gold, their sacrificed horses. They look like kings. The narrative we've been fed is one of conquest, of superior genes riding out to dominate the continent. It is a story of male glory. It is a lie. Because when geneticists finally extracted the Y chromosomes, the unbroken father-to-genetic line from these skeletons, they uncovered a horror story, a mass grave of genetic dead ends. Here's the first crazy databacked fact that shatters the narrative. >While these Yamna men did spread their culture explosively across Europe, their specific Y chromosome lineages almost universally went extinct. Their glorious conquest, their alpha status meant precisely nothing in the long genetic game. They left their pots, their words, their tools. But they did not become the fathers of tomorrow.
I think patriarchy is natural. I did group work at uni with girls, they just didn't have the drive to take charge or be in a leadership role. Even in multiplayer video games they only want to follow others.
>>524116807Life is a generation by generation competition. As soon as your kids go soft they get looted and killed and your daughter raped. Stay strong, steal your enemies resources, kill all adversaries, and pass on your genes. The day you go soft you will stop reproducing.
>>524117055"Strength" in a rigged game isn't a matter of any real/honest principle of strength.
>>524116807tl;dr —a. Popular conception is that Yamnaya went through Europe and Asia about 6000 years ago, killing most male lineages and replacing them with themselves. Genetics disprove this.b. 6000 years ago, the movement of the Yamnaya and other steppe tribes brought technology and agricultural development all over Eurasia. The new agricultural economy killed off 95% of men because women preferred men with assets, not men who were simply decent people. The Yamnaya men didn't come to dominate all genetics that were passed on because many of them didn't have assets, and even the ones who did were able to have their assets stolen and thus their genetic history lost.>>524117055>>524117198Continuing my point: In this game, the real measure of "strength" or fitness is simply how conniving you can be. For as much as people hate "Jews" now, it seems like no one can put 2 and 2 together that the archetypal Jew essentially represents the fittest method of ensuring continuity in this system."Just be strong" is equivalent in this system to saying "just be a Jew". If you want people to have real masculinty not based on deception, then you have to revolt against the system or your fellow neighbor. Which way, Western man?
Women are biologically wired to pit males to compete. Civilization and peace are not compatible with female biological preferences and instincts. As soon as your people win, women will start becoming restless, because you're no longer fighting and competing. They want an eternal rat race of no rest or peace for men, only constant conflict, in order to generate the preferences they desire the most in men (dark triad, social dominance and social violence). If women can't get this from "their own" (women have no concept of own race) people, they'll invite foreign invaders to in to either force the local men into a fight or flight response. Women were jews since the inception of the species. It's not women that behave like jews, it's jews that are the ones who behave like women, they're matriarchal for a reason. Female choice, and advanced civilization cannot coexist.
>>524116901There's an important definitional problem with patriarchy. Are we talking about who runs the state or who runs the family? In the ancient tribe, when the world shifted towards patriarchy, it was both because the family was the state. In the modern day, the family is more and more ran by the woman, making it matriarchal. This extends to the overall morality of society, since people are more affected by their family than their state.Conversely, the state is theoretically ran by predominantly male politicians, but all politicians are figureheads for a deep state. The deep state is corporate, which is effectively its own separate state entity. This means the state isn't ran by men or women. It's just ran by a foreign entity.
>>524117525i wish dommy mommies were real
>>524117525>Women are biologically wired to pit males to compete. Civilization and peace are not compatible with female biological preferences and instincts.Correct. This is why when female social values become dominant (through women running the family), the culture and the state are thrown into disarray. In this sense, we are already in a matriarchy, and we are seeing everything fail as a result.However, let's also not let the deep state off the hook. Culture has its effect, but the corporate money power has its effect too.
>>524117444This is why conservatives are cucks. They encourage their boys to be Jews.
>>524117676What truly gets to me is that none of this makes sense. Civilization (the cooperation of beta males) is literally the most powerful force on earth. How is opposing it "eugenic"? Human women do no sexually select for intelligence, this has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. In fact, they don't sexually select for a single trait that is beneficial for cooperation, and their behavior itself is made is made to pit men against each other. This behavior is the primary reason why men and women were segregated in all spaces by our ancestors. Make no mistake, while it might seem it was done to protect women as a resource (which is true to an extent), it was primarily practiced because every mixed sex space turns into a sexual selection ground were men no longer cooperate, but instead compete to impress the women, and the women do their best to to encourage and facilitate that behavior. This is why colleges turned from a place of higher learning where the best of the best go, to a day care where teens go to have sex unsupervised. This is why office spaces turned from places of commerce to high school 2.0. Make no mistake, civilization and male cooperation did come into place, because of female sexual selection, but they do so inspire of female sexual selection. That's just a testament to how formidable of a force they are. The more advanced civilization can outcompete others regardless of a resource, numbers, or strength deficit. It's the height of natural selection, and the most advanced civilization is the one that has the most cooperating beta males, not the most socially dominant men that excite women. Women and the ruling class seem to realize these facts. Which is why they've been trying to earn the loyalty of betas throughout the ages with faith and other empty gestures, so that they wouldn't have to give us actual tangible benefits such as land, resources, and reproduction in return for our output and efforts.
>>524117444not even five posts inand jews mentionedstay cucked
>>524116807Incel thread about an incel video with AI generated incel images
oh shit forecast rain of truth nukes itt
>>524118375>What truly gets to me is that none of this makes sense.Pastoral and hunter-gatherer notion of fairness applied to new agricultural norms that weren't fully understood at the time.>>524118832You can always tell when randos start complaining people incels, cucks, and epithets of that nature.
>>524116807This is why patriarchy sucks. Not because it's bad for women, because it really isn't, but because it's bad for men.
>>524119215See here:>>524117577Also, read books.
Who cares!!I'm tired of you fucking queers going on and on about gene pools and lineages and bloodlines.Most men died without children because they didn't care.They were able to see the absurdity of continuing the human race in a world that doesn't want them forged by a God that loathes them.
>>524120080because if we don't stop women, souls will keep being syphoned and reincarnated into this loosh farm prison planet hell simulator
>>524116807This says I feel the need to instinctively provide or protect women. I don't really I just want to sleep next to a woman and protect her from danger or have her warm me up during the cold. >>524116901Sadly I am like that too as a man. But I know many guys who are like that 3-4 minimum all my age or even couple years younger lol. If we die we die together though separately. Some didn't even buy Christmas presents for their parents LOL. Comfy life but those kids (they're 18-19) will soon have a rude awakening LOL
>>524120080you're going against the current to save children from having to exist sure. worse when they are being deliberately replaced in the great replacement which is entirely real. however if you are having children and you understand that the great replacement is real and you need to go out of your way to keep your children out of the states hands, terrible doctors, rest of slavers, then it's exhausting and the more children you have the more you have to keep track of them.that's where pol has a problem, they say breed but they don't pay attention to each offspring when their success is crucial. if you just hand your kids to the state, they are going to get turned into a gay net zero tax payer who will die after being a good golem.
>>524120370>that's where pol has a problem, they say breedThat's not pol that's glownigger faggots who were on the Epstein list.How can you people not see this?
>>524120370I mean dude c'mon if most black women (and men) didn't smell like total perspiration all fucking year round,even on Christmas Eve (or today) and looked just marginally better,marginally sexier a bit skinnier and if we had stuff to talk about I'd 1000% fuck dozens of them provided they don't have STDs.But reality ALWAYS has to fucking suck
>>524116807Men are waking up to the true nature of reality and women as well.
>>524120826this the new sign tap meme?
>>524120080>Who cares!!I'm destroying the very narrative that you seem annoyed about. This bothers you... because you don't pay attention or understand things?
>>524117525This. It's why women love when men fight over them and will even egg on or orchestrate conflicts.>>524116807Kek. Wait I thought Yamanaya's were the ones who wiped out everyone else? I must have something mixed up or wrong.
>>524120080>Most men died without children because they didn't care.You're retarded. Most of them likely died in war or from a disease before they could even find a mate.
>>524121785>Kek. Wait I thought Yamanaya's were the ones who wiped out everyone else? I must have something mixed up or wrong.What this is saying is that the Yamnaya were part of the engine of change. Keep in mind that Mesopotamia changed drastically around the same time, but I think the Yamnaya primarily went west into Europe. Whoever went into Mesopotamia was probably related but not necessarily "Yamnaya" proper.The point is, these changes led to massive demographic change, but it's too simple to say it was just because of war or plague. With the new social structure, which included not just agriculture but land ownership and primitive feudalism, many men stopped reproducing. This goes against the narrative also that men with power could simply overpower women to ensure reproduction (indefinitely). The genetics show that even the lineages of powerful men were wiped out.This overall shows that something new became the dominant factor in reproduction. Not strength, not even power or wealth. I suggest it is an underhandedness or deceptiveness, which not only ensures wealth (more significant that virtue or strength by this point) but also the durability of said wealth.In other words, deceptive social institution took hold. You might think "but we're just talking about reproduction, not who ran the state", but what does a man ultimately want besides reproduction (and a life well-lived)? We're talking about the thing that everyone would ultimately fight over, so whoever is winning in that category is whoever is winning all of that "fighting".
>>524120826>post screenshot of your own post from a still active thread.Cringe beyond belief. Good post tho. But you're still a faggot memeflag newfag.Lurk 10 years before posting.
>>524122108If you want to go even deeper, we're talking about gender dynamics that subvert expectations. People have built this narrative that this period was marked by male brutality against men and women. This gives "patriarchy" a nasty meaning for feminists. However, we may be talking about a civilization that afforded women tons of authority and choice. In fact, this connects us to the Scythian Empire of ~700 BC, which is the precursor of the Persian and Macedonian empires, and it's also the basis for Christianity, which is the written tradition of Druid monks. And again in Christianity, you see gender relations that are far from brutal or one-sided. Granted, there is an idea of male authority, but there is still a great deal of freedom and rights for women. We can theoretically use this as a basis for understanding the Yamnaya, their cultural ancestors.
>>524122472Nonsense
>>524117444>In this game, the real measure of "strength" or fitness is simply how conniving you can be. For as much as people hate "Jews" now, it seems like no one can put 2 and 2 together that the archetypal Jew essentially represents the fittest method of ensuring continuity in this system.Therefore, the impersonal system we call civilization is blindly driving the species into a dead end, selecting for psychopath, neuroses and dysfunction as a metric for success.Even Ted did not fully understand how bad things are.
Nigger who cares
>>524122108>The genetics show that even the lineages of powerful men were wiped out.But how and by what exactly? I can't believe that so many men just sat around twiddling their and let a small number of men hoard the majority of women and died silently.
>>524126544*their thumbs
>>524116807>women were even cucking alpha males since the dawn of humanityGrim.
>>524122159>10/13/2025>still active thread>a fucking LEAF
>>524117525>women have no concept of own racethis is the most critical biological sexual difference that no one ever mentions. women know their own offspring but men dont. this means that genetic self-preservation is entirely individual for women but mostly tribal for men.
>>524126544The gist of it is that the definition of "power" changed from who was the most unga-bunga to who had the most land as soon as agriculture was developed. Women started gravitating toward farmers since they were the wealthiest and most able to provide security.
>>524116807The real game is to develop to your daughter’s son and give him the inheritance. Patrilineal X chromosome. Y is overrated
>>524126675the subtle rules the gross
>>524127072That's not exactly true. First of all, women absolutely have a sense for bloodline. You're not really saying otherwise, but I want to clarify. Mothers always play favorites with their children if they can, so they do prefer their own most of the time."Race" can imply bloodline or the general sense of who you associate with.Women don't have a sense for rules. That's literally what they need men for. Male "toxicity" these days is just men having and enforcing standards (or rules). This has been distorted by Frankfurt philosophers as "male authoritarianism".These rules that men establish include restrictions around who you associate with. Every decent parent does the same for their kids. These rules are sometimes heuristics with good intent and a rational basis even if they don't account for every single exception. Because women (and kids) struggle with abstract concepts, they rebel against the rules that don't seem just. That is, unless they have complete and utter faith in the patriarch of the family. That's rare these days.Lastly, I also want to mention how I think this has been corrupted by the current debate around gender. On the one hand, you have women about as I described: completely against rules. This what makes a woman a feminist and is also why all women are just a few feelings away from becoming feminist. On the other hand, you have a subsection of women who call themselves "tradwife" material. Sadly, what I see in these women isn't so much a faith in their man / their father / their patriarchs in general, but I see total emotional dependence that is masked as faith. That means they're too afraid to initiate conversation or make ANY decision without you telling them what to do. This quickly goes from trad wife to tard wife. What men really need is a woman with a little nuance here, which I think they can basically only develop through a relationship with a good man. You won't find this off the shelf.
>>524116807It's called the haves and the have-nots. This only happened due to farming. Before this kind of bottleneck would be virtually impossible to happen. You can see this playing out in Sudan with wealthy men having multiple wives and poor men being lucky if they get even one wife. Some of them become so desperate they start kidnapping young women from neighboring populations. This is the reason every society that had polygamy eventually realized how bad of an idea it was and banned it. Either the younger men wage war over women with neighboring populations or the older men who are hoarding the resources and woman send them off to war.https://www.economist.com/christmas-specials/2017/12/19/the-link-between-polygamy-and-war
>>524127734To be crystal clear, I don't think it was wealth in a monetary or even material sense like we know it today. I think it was land.What do you think was the actual basis for "land ownership" at first?Who truly owns land? Sovereigns, right?Do you think the king just let his subordinates _own_ land that was within his territory? I would bet that evolved later, possibly as a result of several revolts.
>>524118375Civilization is stabilizing, and stability allows dysgenic genes to survive
>>524117525>>524127072>>524127611
I think it's funny how so many guys stop caring about all this and just give up, and then /pol/ has endless meltdowns about "modern men not approaching women" or whatever. Everyone knows deep down that none of this crap is what a healthy society should be, and women have been given free reign to do whatever they want. Cope about this all you want, keep larping about how you're real men in a world of boys, it won't change the fact that this is an abomination.
>>524129224>I think it's funny how so many guys stop caring about all this and just give up,Caring about all of what and giving up on what?
>>524127842Native American hunter-gathers used to execute or send anti-social people out into the wilderness to die, in civilization these people can rise to the top of the pyramid. Narcissists and sociopaths and psychopaths that would've been killed in any reasonable society now lead us.
>>524129224Feminism, patriarchy, "modern men" and all of that. The discussions on here have never achieved anything and most of them are approached from a tradcuck perspective which is wrong. Women, feminism, the state of the west, it all keeps getting worse meanwhile people larp about how they know the solution or how guys should do this and that. Women have been allowed to run rampant and destroy everything and that is the root of all this. Until white males have the balls to take that away from them, everything will get worse. Feminism is it's own undoing until guys either take it away or civilization reaches a state of total dogshit.
>>524122159>>524126785I don't remember which thread, but I've definitely seen this post typed today
>>524127901The "women" aren't "our" women, they do not come from humanity, they were created separately, they are parasites that attempt to mimic real human females which are now extinct
>>524132190I prefer the theory that humans really are just evil and retarded without strenuous effort
>>524133065Real women are not weak stick people, real women are subjected to the same survival struggles as the men are, our "women" are in the current state because they have degenerated generation after generation into what they are today. We are all lesser versions of the people we should be and in large part this is the fault of our social dynamics
so men are genetical superior to women, no wonder they can't compete
>>524131273This was meant for >>524130834 I guess I need more coffee.
