Does everything have a cause? Is everything pre-determined? Are we in a chain of infinite cause and effect, or things happen randomly?
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>>524130407>Does everything have a cause? Is everything pre-determined?Yes.
>>524130407Why not both?
>>524130407Everything here has a cause, sometimes the cause is external or seemingly from the future.Many things are predetermined, but not all. The future isn't fixed and can't be known with 100% certainty.There is no such thing as randomness.
>>524130407At least it is true that no man has control. Even over his own will.
>>524130407obviously otherwise science wouldn’t work.
>>524130407If quantum physics suggest things happen randomly based on chance, then it doesn't mean free will exist, it just means randomness drives your decisions and you in fact doesn't have free will
>>524132470>There is no such thing as randomness.Quantum mechanics disagrees
>>524132620Just because we here can't predict something, it does not mean it's unpredictable from another POV.Randomness is a cope word for brainlets.
>>524132470If >Everything here has a causeand >There is no such thing as randomnessThen why is it that not everything is pre-determinedI'm neither agreeing or disagreeing, just like to hear your perspective
>>524130407dunno
>>524130407Yes, fundamentally, everything is locked down.
>>524130407Everything is pre determined yes. But as a human you can only see this from your perspective which cannot see most causes or consequence so stick to a proven religion and try to do your best.
>>524132726>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern–Gerlach_experimentNice opinion based merely on your assertion
>>524132576>>524132620The reality is we are wrong about quantum physics we know it but we wont admit it until we figure out a better explination.
>>524132828Everything here, in causal space, has a cause. Some causes are external to this space. There are other spaces without causality, which seem to be linked to our space through quantum. These spaces, or a single space, can influence our space(s) and vice versa.Just for fun, look up how big name physicists define randomness, if you like a good laugh.
>>524132959> energy is quantified Gosh, and I thought Coulomb was a mere convention, and LEDs keep their colour by a contractual agreement.
>>524133003I never really bought it. I've heard someone said that there're studies that DEBUUUUUNKS the randomness understanding (I've never read them) that in turn got DEBUNNNKED by more studies that suggests randomness understanding>>524133083>These spaces, or a single space, can influence our space(s) and vice versa.Is this a philosophical understanding or are there physical suggestions to this
>>524133242Do you even know the theory behind light emitting diodes..
>>524133669I'm not aware about any serious experiments. Nelson's GCP could be considered one, however the methodology is flawed, in more ways than one.Parapsychology is a science, unlike psychology, but not very serious one.Shame.>>524133776Something about pozzing negholes to the state of excitation, right?
Free will isn't real. Do you miss it?
>>524130407determinists are redditfags that's all I know
>>524130407What caused the first cause? And why?
>>524134161>>524133003>it dont be like it do be because my assertions based off nothing
>>524130407Also, was the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden deterministic?
>>524134359> if I quote you hard enough, I'll winYou won.Good night.
>>524134244In the end it doesn't really matter
>>524134390Kike tripe
>>524134161Thanks I'll look into it>psychologyThat's just something for chicks to brag about while also getting themselves a HR position
>>524134161>Something about pozzing negholes to the state of excitation, right?Technically it would be negging pozholes but you're essentially correct.
Npcs will say its determined.
>>524130407>Does everything have a cause? Is everything pre-determined?We used to think so. Until we discovered quantum mechanics.
>>524134889classic
>>524134244It depends on how you define free will. You have free will in the sense that nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to make a certain decision. You aren’t a slave in a North Korean labor camp.Also, in a non-deterministic universe, you would have no way of predicting future outcomes. Weighing potential outcomes is the very basis of making informed decisions. It’s only possible to do so in a deterministic universe.If you lived in a non-deterministic universe where every rational principle could unravel spontaneously, you would have a difficult time making decisions. The decision itself could unravel randomly at any moment. Therefore, determinism forms a solid foundation for free will, rather than negating it.
>>524130407Both free will And complete determinism exist. You can only distinguish These because you live in the Illusion of time.
>>524136021Completely false.If the Universe is deterministic, Nash Equilibrium is impossible.Nash Equilibrium always exists if and only if you can use Mixed-Strategies, Mixed-Strategies require non-determinism.
>>524130407what appears chaotic to [you] is grand design. all you can do is play your part
>>524130407doesn't matter. you will be dead and that will be that
>>524130407There’s only two possibilities, and neither of them are what most people believe. Either determinism is real, and the past and future are set, or determinism isn’t real, and the past and future change as a result of rescissions in the present. The idea that the past is set and the future is in question is retarded.
>>524130407duality box nigger. Not true, the will of sentience can alter deterministic outcomes.
>>524139102Not if quantum immortality has anything to say about it.
>>524142582I don’t get how that even works. So I’m just doomed to be a 150 year old husk because I can’t die? That’s fucked.
>>524132539I hope you were being sarcastic.
