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Thomas Jefferson wrote, in a letter to his friend Chastellux in 1785:

" I beleive the Indian then to be in body and mind equal to the whiteman. "

What are your thoughts on this?
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>>524137079
Jefferson was talking about the natives, not jeets.
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>>524137079
Just can't care because I'm voting straight Democrat now. Repubs can have indians and pedophiles.
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>>524137225
I don't think he viewed Indians in the USA and india differently at all. Not even joking
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>>524137079
I doubt it
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>>524137079
Does he provide a source or examples to back up the claim or is this more of the “all men are created equal” nonsense pulled straight out of his ass?
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>>524137624
he does!

He writes this:
>The North of Europe furnishes subjects enough for comparison with them, and for a proof of their equality. I have seen some thousands myself, and conversed much with them, and have found in them a male, sound understanding. I have had much information from men who had lived among them, and whose veracity and good sense were so far known to me as to establish a reliance on their information. They have all agreed in bearing witness in favour of the genius of this people. As to their bodily strength, their manners rendering it disgraceful to labour, those muscles employed in labour will be weaker with them than with the European labourer: but those which are exerted in the chase and those faculties which are employed in the tracing an enemy or a wild beast, in contriving ambuscades for him, and in carrying them through their execution, are much stronger than with us, because they are more exercised.

Basically he is saying that they have "male", sound understanding, and that from men who have lived among indians, they generally had good judgement, he goes on to say that European laborers are generally stronger, but this is due to environmental reasons, and that Indians were better suited for hunting and tracking since that's what they practiced.

He seems to have really believed in the "nurture" side of the nature vs nurture argument.
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>>524137079
>Thomas Jefferson wrote, in a letter to his friend Chastellux in 1785:
>" I beleive the Indian then to be in body and mind equal to the whiteman. "
>What are your thoughts on this?
He was wrong.

We are superior.
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>>524137624
I think that first line:

>The North of Europe furnishes subjects enough for comparison with them, and for a proof of their equality.

is basically thomas jefferson insulting Swedes?
lol
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>>524137079
He meant feather indians not dot indians.
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>>524137970
show me proof that jefferson believed there were any significant differences between the "indians" in both countries at all
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>>524137079
>AND THEN HE SHIT DOWN BOTH LEGS AND ATE IT JUST LIKE EVERY INDIAN EVER BORN OUT OF THEIR INDIAN COCKROACH EGG SACKS
-1000 izzat you pathetic heap of rotting garbage
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>>524137079
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>>524138035
He never went to india and never met any dot indians.
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>>524138066
yes, it seems like Jefferson and Franklin had some pretty major disagreements

>>524138175
true, but he certainly was aware of Indians there, he was quite educated and well read, likely knew as much as the anglos at that time knew about India
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>>524137315
that's because you're a retarded indian
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>>524138066
>an avowed white supremacistwowbthat book doesn’t sound biased at all
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>>524137079
Muttland has always been a place for Jews, rejects and scum since the very beginning.
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>>524137911
You know, he is clearly not talking about jeets in this passage.
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>>524139220
cope
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>>524138035
>The North of Europe furnishes subjects enough for comparison with them, and for a proof of their equality.
There were no jeets in Northern Europe, but there were inuit.
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He was talking about the teepee Indians. Pajeets are disgusting filth and everyone has always known this.
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>>524137911
>>524137911
Youre a retard, he's talking about the injuns.
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>>524137079
Now say the next two lines in the letter.
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>>524137225
Yup. The real indians (feather) not the poo dot indians.
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They are, at least while sober. They can't handle drugs or alcohol unfortunately. Alot of people cant though. Most of America has some Indian DNA in them. I wouldn't mind having a squaw waifu myself desu
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>>524137079
Had Jefferson ever met a jeet or gone to India? No? Interesting…
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>>524139709
>I have supposed the blackman, in his present state, might not be so. But it would be hazardous to affirm that, equally cultivated for a few generations, he would not become so.

he has a more neutral approach to race than most /pol/fags

jefferson seemed to believe that if given a chance that black people could be equal to whites within 3 generations
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>>524137079
Thomas Jefferson wanted to move all the indians to the Midwest unfortunately he died from an STI caught from fucking slaves
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>>524137079
>1785
He's talking about native American's or (American Indians).
Do I really need to explain this? It's only been very recent that "Indian" meant people from India when using that word in the US.
In the 15th century the Spanish thought they went around the world and landed in India, they called them Indians, and the name just stuck for centuries even though everyone knew they were a different people.
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>>524139784
there are barely any native americans left. it's basically not possible to say anything about them because there are so few actual natives

all the ones running the casinos or whatever are 95% white
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>>524137079
What did he think about Hinduism and the caste system?
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>>524140031
jefferson calls them indians AND ALSO acknowledges that Indians exist in India, in the very same letter

he knows both groups have "Indians". Now show me proof he thinks that these groups are different, despite calling them the same name
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>>524140059
He knew that hindus existed
probably not much more
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>>524140033
keep telling yourself that. lol.
On the res they only hire natives first and foremost and it's not illegal at all
also that elizabeth warren shit won't fly lol you gotta announce your clans
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>>524140234
>keep telling yourself that
listen anon you are fighting a losing battle, and I really don't understand why some liberals or whatever fight so hard to claim that natives are thriving in the USA

they really aren't, they are actual political non-entities, virtually extinct and defeated
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>>524138066
>an avowed White supremacist
Jewish fingers typed this.
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>>524137079
>WE WUZ NATIVE AMERICANS N SHEET!!!!
You're delusional, Pajeet.
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>>524137624
>all men are created equal
we are created equal, as in our souls.

nothing about being created equal under God means that we are all CAPABLE of the same temporal feats. fucking atheists are especially retarded about this inability to understand that the very religious framers were referring to our value to THE CREATOR.

it's like the retards that say the words "general welfare" means the federal government should be the biggest fattest welfare daddy in history.
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>>524140097
Thomas Jefferson was a top tier intellectual, a genius and very well read. These two groups of people were on different sides of the fucking world. Of course he knew they were different you stupid shit eating jeet.



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