Vilna Gaon writes in Kol HaTor that Mashiach ben Yosef "is still alive". He walks among us, as he walked with every generation, but this time he will revelate. We are in the end days. Pray for the mashiach daily.
>>524154324Golden rules #1 and #3> 1. Unless reason dictates otherwise, always do opposite of what jew says> 2. Jew will anyways lie to goyim even if telling truth would bear no negative consequencesLord Jesus will come back as he left: suddenly and surrounded by glory
>>524154958im a quaker, not a jew. i study the text.
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>>524154324Does he know it though or is it just kinda something that happens to him?
>>524158245yes by later in his life the mashiach in all his forms eventually realizes whom he is. such as Gaon himself knew he was an archetype of the mashiach in his era, same as joshua, joseph, jacob, rachel, efraim, etc. they are all really storys of mashiach ben yosef
>>524158353So he's reincarnated not knowing When he realized it, does he think "oh hey I'm the fucking Messiah" or does he just realize "I'm sick of this shit and I know what needs to be done" and then years later everyone was just like oh hey that was him again
>>524159770reincarnated isn't the right word. there is only one actual mashiach ben yosef, the man who revelates and saves his people from exile, but there are archetypes that Gaon said would describe mashiach ben yosef's life. you can read their storys to understand his better. and in all those storys, yes, he ends up realizing he is a vessel for god.
>>524160073Jewgle says there's 2.The one you're talking about typically dies in battle and sets the stage for the second oneSomewhere, you or jewgle, I just got this shit happened every generation, so he's have to be reincarnated for that to happen unless the guys like 10,000 years old
>>524160306there is nothing in the bible suggesting that mashiach ben yosef and mashiach ben david live at different times infact quite the opposite the bible states that mashiach ben david would pray for mashiach ben yosef, suggesting what i believe that they are alive together, during the end days, which is now. we are currently either at the moment where the entire world is destroyed for several thousands of years or we enter a new revelated state.the revelation only happens once. exile only happens once. leaving exile only happens once. and they happen by way of mashiach ben yosef. it's the most important story of the entire bible is his story of fighting for his people to leave exile. and succeeding, but it's not guaranteed, we must pray for him every day.
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