I've come to the conclusion that's it's tribalism vs nationalism. You either support a decentralised government or centralised one. You're either a warrior class or a civilisation builder. The two are incompatible and always at friction with each other.
Sincerity vs performanceThese people do not actualy care more about space rocks than their own lives. They are perpetually pretending.
>>524156126>You're either a warrior class or a civilisation builder.And these are the same people.
>>524156126Isn't nationalism tribal compared to globalism?
>warrior class
Nationalism is Tribalism, unless the leadership is subverted by chasing external ideals like capital and ideology they are the same thing.
>>524156126No mention of moneyed interests
>>524156126I genuinely think that the famed division implied by the graphic is not incompatible. You can care about your loved ones, your local community and the wider humanity in general without incompatibility. Convergence and unity are possible. Especially when it's time to get J-pilled.
>>524156555No they're not. Civilisation builder's are a slave people. They will support a centralised government.
>>524156597Shrek gets cucked: the moviehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gN7zUraxw4
>>524156602>Nationalism is TribalismNo it's not. That's like saying a white patriotic American and an ultra orthodox jew are the same thing.
>>524156814Ok then i just take issue with what youre calling "civilization builder". Thats not a term for the menial chattle slaves that move bags of dirt from one spot to the other. These people if left alone would not build anything let alone civilization.
>>524156931I think you just really fucked up on your terminology and need to rethink your little theory before trying again.
>>524156555No.The priest caste and the warrior caste are separate. At least in Aryan societies
>>524157287>I think you just Go fuck yourself
>>524156498>They are perpetually pretendingthis. It is their primary source of dopamine
>>524156126>I've come to the conclusion that's it's tribalism vs nationalism.You sound dumb with only a vague grasp of reality.
>>524156602>Nationalism is TribalismEthno-nationalism is tribalism but not that civic-nationalism cuckoldry.
>>524156931yes, that's correct. they are the same.
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>>524156126What does this graph represent?
Its amazing how most people wont understand what OP is saying. he is right that tribalism and nationalism are close to being opposites. in fact nationalism began as a lefty idea, a way to centralize the state, destroy identities and administer everything from above. but most people just dont get it, and will insist that nationalism is tribalist and based
>>524157375He just clarified that by "civilization builder" he means labor slaves
>>524157561>Ethno-nationalism is tribalismThis isn't really true because ethnic nationalism was a creation of tribes that formed together. For example France and Germany. They were tribes that united.
>>524157407Sure. Enjoy your thread where people constantly read the op, misunderstand what you mean, and reply saying youre wrong(you are).
>>524156126Nation states are disposable. Like corporations they need a reset from time to time. Tribes outlive states, even empires.
>>524156126I've come to the conclusion that /pol/ is mentally retarded because it still doesn't understand the questions on that test were not weighted.
>>524157756>and reply saying youre wrong(you are).The floor is yours. Go ahead.
>>524157606There was a study on "moral proximety"Testers were asked wuestions about what they value woth exclusive sets of things. Like a set thats "your family" and the set of "your neighborhood" do not overlap. So >whats more.important your family pr your neighborhood Kind of questions. Then they graphed it where the center is yourself, and each ring is a set further away from yourself. The outer most ring is literally everything in the universe other than the earth and everyone on it. They also asked peoples political affiliation and discovered self identified leftists cluster at the edge and rightwingers cluster in the center.It is not a thing to be taken seriously, that skemone prioritizes the well being of space debris beyond they and all of civilization's existence. It's like an extended boundary to encompass all the test results but sure enough enough people marked that down to be statistically significant. Woth the way these people were answering youd think they steal their own mother's shall to drape it around another person who was already comfortable.
>>524156126both ask that you sacrifice your individuality in favor of some common good leading. I mean it works well for the Amish or whatever but geez there surely must be more to life than just being on a treadmill.>>524157606it's a meme chart representing empathy of ingroup vs outgroup. it's used to compare leftists vs. conservatives (this is the conservative graph).
>>524157683Look up what the word "nation" originally meant before it was bastardized. The nation is your tribe. Youre confuzed by scale. Scale that only exists now in this briefest slice of modern existence. For reference, each of the distinct american indian tribes are also nations.Lemme type that againThe native american TRIBES are also NATIONS.What you are referring to is an identity that transcends blood and soil into an abstract collective. Like yankee fans or people whose favorite color is blue. That is what globalism is. Creating an omni collective that ignores geographic origin and ethnic relationship.So as to erase those iednities and trick you into letting you highly ethnonationalist enemies wipe you out of the gene pool.
>>524157829I've come to the conclusion that anyone using a memeflag and insulting anyone should be banned for 24 hours
>>524157745>unitedThey murdered carriers of the Y chromosome of enemy tribes and inserted their own Y chromsomes into the pool of females.They united like how a ameoba unite when one eats the other.
>>524157683>>524157760And that's why I think allot of modern nationalism movements are dumb. Instead of focusing on themselves and their tribe they just complain about how their nation state fails them. It's like they're angry because the state isn't babying them anymore. They resorts to all sort of politics and are usually baseless. They start to trying to bargain with the state with things like "immigration the legal way" instead of preserving themselves locally.
>>524157934Lets stary by reading the beginning of my post and then next observe the deluge of people replying directly to the op calling you a retard because younused the wrong words
>>524158387Indian natio alists dont do thisChinese nationalists dont do thisThe various african natio alists dont do this.What do you mean by "a lot". Only whites? Based.
>>524157561Ethnonationalism only exists because of the subversion by other terms.Nationalism at is core is ethnic or idealistic, but originally it was only ethnic.
