Given the geopolitical turmoil these days, what tips would you recommend to me : A beginner Frenchie that is seriously considering to move to Latin America (preferably Uruguay, Argentina, Southern Brazil) and buy some land and live off of it. Any contingency plans (that you've already drawn up) or any tips are greatly appreciated.Thanks in advance lads
>>524159296Learn to grow peanuts, beans, and corn like I did
>>524159401>peanuts, beans and cornI've done some preliminary research and this often comes up. Thanks for the tip
>>524159296Always keep a suicide kit in your pocket
>>524159401>>524159573Potatoes are arguably a better crop for sustaining yourself. There's a reason the Irish were growing those to survive. Not really their fault that a plant pathogen suddenly popped up and wiped out their crops for multiple years.If you're worried about a major breakdown in society, learn some of the basics of steam engines and plan on setting up a solar-powered steam generator. It's not even slightly difficult. Not much more than a parabolic mirror and a tank of water and some pipes. You still need a battery bank for darktime.
>>524159296if you are going all in on self-sufficiency you need to have back-up plans for your back-up plans. I dug a new garden for the fall. about 50ftx100ft. and a small pumpkin patch about 20x20. put in the extra effort to make sure the soil was top quality for my fall crops, perfect ratio of manure, all that. drainage was perfect. Mulched the bed with hay. kept the plants properly waters without fail the whole season. 3 days after planting 60% had germinated. a couple days later 80% had sprouted. and growth was crazy good by the end of the first week. growth continued crazy good but nothing else sprouted, terrible germination rate and these were premo fresh seeds. at 4 weeks growth just stopped. weather was perfect, all variables were perfect. I observed no bug or fungus issues. just stopped growing. I thought fine I should still get a pretty decent yield since its a big garden. in the end I got less than 2 dozen green beans, 2 zucchinis, 5 butternut squash, 3 spaghetti squash and 4 pumpkins that never got bigger than a lemon. if I actually depended on that garden in any way id be crying right now.
>>524159401>and cornIve found corn to be quite difficult in my area.
>>524159941>PotatoesAgreed>the basics of steam engines and plan on setting up a solar-powered steam generatorDuly noted and appreciated
>>524159998>you need to have back-up plans for your back-up plansI am a beginner so I need to figure out and learn the basics first then I can move on to plan B and plan C. Good advice nevertheless
>>524159826Flag checks out. >>524159296PotatoesBeansCornPumpkins / SquashOnionsChickens Good luck.
>>524159296Have a bump, and what the fuck is going on with the farmers in france atm? Shit seems to be getting wild.Also if you're planning on moving overseas, carefully weigh up cost of land/security/community.Is land cheaper in the third world, absolutely, can you protect it and have a good community around you that won't skin you, less likely. Also don't rule out places in SEA. Very friendly, good climate, less violent.
>>524159296>>524159941Yams/taters have the highest calorie density per acre of farming land IIRC.Starting a subsistence homestead is really hard though, especially for just one guy, or one guy and his GF. Yousa gonna die.
>>524160636>OnionsBased onion enjoyer
>>524159296argentinian women are pretty lame for latam standards but they have top tier beef and patagonia is amazing. stay out of buenas aires, it’s a like infested shit hole and it’s packed with clipped bangs doodle scribble tattoo bovine nose piercing feminists. paraguay is somewhere worth checking out if you ask me. i haven’t been yet but it’s on the list of destinations
>>524160724they have banned me for my filenames - just saying. You may want to change it up every once in a while.I finally gave up and went to randomized filename lmao
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>>524160386>am a beginnerheres some more advice then:-start off with no more than 3 crops. any more than that and you will have a harder time noticing what helped or hindered a particular crop. something does good one season add it to your permanent roster.-90% of what you will read online about any aspect of farming is not great advice. what will work on one farm will not necessarily work on another. let experience teach you more than anything else. -animals can ruin you. if you will keep livestock play it on the safe side til you know what you are doing. 6 is a good number of chickens for a beginner. 3-5 goats. etc. learn what you need to do for them but also learn how much your land can actually support, land that can support 20 goats during good times can quickly only support 3 goats should a nasty drought roll in.-there is nothing wrong with cheap convenience store seeds, as in my other post premium seed providers arent foolproof by any means. and for that matter there is nothing wrong with cheap farm store chicks, I have gotten chickens with better genetics from the sickly chicks in the feed store bins than I have from custom ordered hatchery chicks. -speaking of poultry: geese are very good for self-sufficiency, they only need grass, get very large and readily breed every spring (but make terrible mothers so go gather the eggs and hatch them yourself), ducks are good too but ducks can be a pain in the ass. and turkeys are very fun to keep they will follow you like puppies and a home raised turkey is chefs kiss.
>>524160724>picrelThat's beautiful fren. Great work and God bless>what the fuck is going on with the farmers in France atm?Farmers are rising up across France and Europe.Roads are blocked. Capitals are under pressure. Why?Because governments and European institutions are destroying agriculture instead of protecting it.Mass culling of livestock under brutal sanitary policies (DNC).Free trade agreements like Mercosur that flood Europe with cheaper products not meeting EU standards.Falling farm incomes, exploding costs, endless regulations.Farmers are being ignored, repressed, sprayed with water cannons and tear gas, simply for defending their right to survive.Without farmers, there is no food sovereignty.Without farms, there is no future. This is basically the essence of the entire thing>can you protect it and have a good community around you that won't skin youOfc. One of my priorities is to find a good community and have good-hearted neighbors (preferably White) amongst which I can assimilate and fit in
>>524160959>Starting a subsistence homestead is really hard though, especially for just one guyThat is not problem at all imo. I can just hire a couple of guys to get the show on the road and help with the work that requires multiple people.
>>524161182They can be stored long-term, have medicinal qualities, and are a good source of vitamins.
>>524161647with all of the insanity of eu Ive completely checked out on keeping up with the ongoings of the europe. My initial reaction was wow that sounds like complete bullshit but after having a minute to think about it the same things are going on here to varying degrees. regulations have lessened somewhat but almost all food at the grocery stores is imported now.
>>524161584>animals can ruin you. if you will keep livestock play it on the safe side til you know what you are doingAgreed and that's exactly what I was thinking too. For the first couple of years, I will probably just stick with chickens, rabbits and maybe a couple of turkeys for good measure
Good job anon you grew 4 potatoes that should be enough caloric intake for you and your family of 4 for the next 6 months.
>>524159296Learn cobbling. Once life turns overnight from sitting 6 hours/day on the sofa watching TV to being outdoors on your feet for 12-16 hours/day, you'll realize just how valuable shoes and shoe repair are, and how they're taken for granted when all is well.
>>524162092oh I glossed over turkeys, they can be expensive to feed. they need a high protein diet to do their best. also if you want a turkey dinner you wont easily forget, dont slaughter them at the recommended age you'll find online let them get big. if you go with the broadbreast variety slaughter them at 5 months and you'll get 27+ lbs of very tasty meat.
>>524161914Yeah over here they go overboard with regulations It's disgusting desu. Everyday they just come out with new laws and asinine regulations that just gradually rape and restrict the freedoms of the upstanding European natives. Meanwhile the real source of the problems is completely overlooked (take for example bin the knife, save a life in the uk)
>>524162174I am a one man operation you demoralizing kike faggot. KYS
>>524162255Saved and much appreciated for that piece of advice
>>524159296all set
>>524162275>they can be expensive to feedI don't mind spending some money. I consider that a good investment. Billionaires literally spend 100s of millions of dollars on self-sustainable bunkers so spending some money on turkeys seems completely reasonable
>>524162422>I am a one man operation you demoralizing kike faggot. KYSYour one of those colonists that got slaughtered by natives and starved to death because you have no idea what it takes to farm for yourself or a family unit.“White” lol
>>524161350>they have banned me for my filenames - just saying.Kek mate if I don't get banned a dozen times a day i'm doing something wrong. The glowniggers and jannies will tongue my anus until morale improves.>>524161647It's getting there, it's taken a few years to figure shit out and get it established, do lots of hunting/fishing and have always had livestock/chooks as well, plus lots of trading with neighbours. Covid kicked everyone into high gear around here, no more fucking around, no more selling to super markets who are fucking farmers and customers as hard as the government is. Community farmers markets and lots of just "take stuff, leave some cash" honor boxes around. We're making more money and people are getting cheaper food.>>524161647>Because governments and European institutions are destroying agriculture instead of protecting it.Figured, same shit is happening here and in NZ as well. Literal commie land grab shit, albeit at the stroke of a pen with endless beauracracy instead of at gunpoint. Also lots of good advice in this thread with respect to crops, but what i'd suggest is move sooner rather than later, find a good community sooner rather than later, learn as you go, work for someone, learn skills. It's going to take you a few years and my gut tells me we don't have a few years before things get really bad. Think about what skills you currently have or can pick up quick that are of value in a rural area. Even if it's something simple like mending fences, or a trade like a diesel mechanic. Community is key when you're rural, you need trade, security, a mate to lend a hand.
>>524161299>patagonia is amazingSo I've heard many times. I am definitely staying out of the big cities (urban life in general) and the rabid feminiggers
Je peux te donner des infos sur le sud du Brésil. J'y habite depuis environ 2 ans, dans une des villes avec la meilleure qualité de vie du pays (mais la plus chère niveau immobilier). Les points positifs : soins de santé, propreté, criminalité très basse. Le négatif : le climat de nègre une bonne moitié de l'année avec une humidité de taré, les mutts, le "contrôle-qualité" (lol) brésilien, les moustiques qui peuvent te filer la dengue, et la mentalité brésilienne (peut-être pire que tout le reste). Ici, c'est un peu particulier parce que la ville attire beaucoup de races de merde d'en dehors du sud, et comme tu es français, tu sais ce que ça signifie. Sinon, tu peux trouver des petites villes très européennes à la campagne et acheter une maison avec du terrain pour un prix raisonable. Je te conseille surtout les états de Santa Catarina et de Rio Grande do Sul où il y a encore des Européens (regarde Pomerode, Treze Tilias, ...). Par contre, t'auras probablement des routes de terre, l'hôpital le plus proche à minimum 1h, le climat pire qu'à la côte (où je suis), toutes les saloperies locales genre serpents, araignées géantes, nuées de moustiques. Je viens de la campagne et je la préfère largement à la ville, mais ici au Brésil, c'est pas la même chose du tout. Aussi, il y a une différence abyssale entre les Brésiliens d'ascendance 100% européenne et ceux qui ne le sont pas (même 10%). Normalement, tu peux leur faire confiance et leur mentalité est fort semblable à la nôtre. Les autres, tu dois toujours considérer qu'ils mentent jusqu'à ce que le contraire soit prouvé. Je compte revenir en Europe dans quelques années (mais pas en France) même si la situation est bien pire qu'ici. Je sais que ce n'est pas un témoignage très encourageant, mais c'est mon expérience personnelle. Tu devrais d'abord visiter la campagne en été pour te faire une idée et rester quelques jours sur place (loue une voiture sinon oublie).
>>524162255During Covid I told friends to stop saving money, it would lose its purchasing power. "Buy canned salmon, socks, and shoes," I told them. Everybody scoffed.
>>524162892>do lots of hunting/fishingI've done and still doing my fair share of fishing. As for hunting, I am for sure befriending a community of hunters once I get there and learn from them (before I get my own license) and help them with what I can.>lots of just "take stuff, leave some cash" honor boxes aroundHigh-trust society has been completely decimated in the past few decades so unless you're in some isolated predominately "White" rural area you wouldn't find any in Europe anymore. Hopefully that's still honor rural markets are a thing in Latam though
>>524159296> Live off the land in Uruguay Every good land and fresh water belongs to Blackrock here. Try Paraguay
>>524159296Avoid everywhere that is 1000 miles from any ocean. That leaves none of North or South America, none of Europe, half of Africa & much of Asia. The greatest number of survivors will be in Siberia.
>>524162255Tire treads and bicycle inner tubes make excellent long last, high taction footwear. Just an FYI.
>>524163299>Tu devrais d'abord visiter la campagne en été pour te faire une idée et rester quelques jours sur placeBonne idée. Une sorte d'essai gratuit 30 jours comme un abonnement quoi lol.Je te remercie pour ces conseils
>>524163645>Every good land and fresh water belongs to Blackrock hereJesus Christ...fucking kikes doing land grabs in Uruguay as well. Truly a plague on humanity
>>524164136They are going for the underground acquifers now
>>524164045De rien. Mais renseigne toi bien avant de choisir où aller, sinon ça sera du temps perdu. Voilà pas longtemps, par exemple, j'ai entendu parlé d'une petite ville allemande dans l'état de RS, Joaneta. Regarde le street view, ça a l'air génial. Ce genre de petites villes. Normalement, ce sont des endroits de "high trust society", ce qui est extrêmement rare ici et en Europe de l'Ouest, comme tu sais. Si t'as des questions, je peux essayer de t'aider.
