Remember, if you join the army, this will be YOUR future.And few years later, the country that you defended will import 10 million pajeets to replace you, while women whore out on onlyfans.Remember, the majority of war veterans end up homeless, with PTSD and killing themselves.
Agreed. Russia government should cease its war of aggression so that the slavic people can live in peace.
>>524160194>le russia
>i'm fighting for gay pride parades and fisting in downtown kyiv
>>524160068I'd never join the military, but war is good; it's the only real population check on humans and similar species
>>524160068bump NEVER JOIN THE MILITARY ANONS.Stay home, eating tendies w/ special mulan dipping sauce. In mom's basement being the best edgelord you can be. Xvideos fapping to mudsharks riding nigger baseball bats until the cows come home.JUST NEVER DIE FOR RATFACE KIKES.
>>524160068What’s he thinking about?
>>524160068I wonder what is going through his mind atm
>>524160452Top kek
>>524160068>>524160452>>524160574>not taking the disability retirement after 4 days of basic training pill
>>524160808so they just never even feel bad about doing that?so no conscience at all?
War is hell
>>524160338The Ukrainian government is just as corrupt. But at the very least once they have their autonomy, they can work to change it. Also, they're an ultranationalist people.
>>524160068How do you feel about the fact boomers and women are living the benefits of the modern society while you are still expected to die for it?What there is to die for?
>>524161085Why the fuck would you feel bad? The military sucks ass. I wish I had never joined. I got out easy as well. Intact and not hurt at all. In basic at sick hall, they told me my feet were fucked up. By nature, not damage done there. I wish I had pushed that, get out and be able to be on disability. Instead I pushed through it and what did I get for it? Alcoholism and a life long confidence hit. But I was patriotic and did my duty. Fucking idiocy that they depend on kids having. I know people that got TBI while in. Literal brain damage and for what? To support the Afghan government? The same one that collapsed hours after we left? We got nothing out of it but graves, disabled men, and mountains of money blown. Absolutely pointless my guy. Get what you can because the army will get what they can. Screw them. I don't know why you're so wanting to defend zog anyway. "No don't get on disability, that money is better spent on pushing genderqueer language in the third world ".
>>524160808This goblin man should be killed.
>>524160808Burgers are so fucking delusional that they think the amount of vets getting full disability is normal, and a good thing.
>>524160808i mean honestly good for him, he got the mney somehow. someone apporved it. so yea good for him...its not like you just give yourself a check everymonth im sure there is a process.
The worst part is you won't have control over your fate. You can't refuse bad orders. You will be at the mercy of retards near you (someone decided to play with grenade? to flash your position by using his phone? bad luck kiddo). Advanced tactics? Grunts are being told what to do, you can't choose what village to attack. You can't choose NOT to attack.Probably the only thing you can do to get more control is killing your direct command, but that requires to get everyone near you on the same page or you'd have to kill them all as well.
>>524160068what happened to his head?
>>524162914He's Ukrainian he was born that way.
>>524162508i'd rather live amongst the poor and earn my keep
>>524160808>9/11Join the military and fight to defend your country Goy!>20 years laterN-no, not like that! Stop faking all those expensive injuries, we need that money for new missiles!
>>524162901NATO war doctrine places a lot of priority on NCO leadership to accomplish tasks. NCOs have the freedom to make decisions to achieve operational success, they can use their judgement to avoid bad situations. Your doctrine relies on officers that expect you to do tasks without questions. A large part of the Russian army's incompetence comes from their sheer lack of NCO decision making. Your country relies on high command for EVERYTHING.
>>524163128>those who've sacrificedevery worker sacrifices every single fucking daynot just "muh veterans," half of which are female veteranswho did admin shit
>>524160068>And few years later, the country that you defended will import 10 million pajeets to replace youThis is the biggest reason to not serve any Western country at the moment. We have no future anyway. Wtf is the point? You used to fight for your country because you were part of it, you had family, you had kids, you had nephews and nieces you loved, you didn't want to see them killed and/or enslaved. You died for them because you loved them. What do we have? A country that spits on us. Our greatest enemies are right here.
>>524162901I think realistically if people start killing off conscription officers, government officials and MPs when conscription is announced, they'd relent. I honestly think that will happen after the Russo-Ukrainian war fiasco. You guys were lulled into it because it was a "be home for Christmas" type of deal, where everyone assumed it'd be a lightning war similar to many of the advances during World War II. Turns out that WW II was an anomaly and the Iran/Iraq war is the norm for modern warfare, which quickly devolves into trench warfare for peer to peer conflict. People have learnt their lesson and know that the first wave of conscription is guaranteed instant death. The coming blackpill when Ukraine gets repopulated with foreign races will hit hard and heavy. I just don't see any country being stupid enough to make the same mistake.
Do slavs draft people with cirrhosis / kidney disease? Asking for a friend.
>>524162901>>524163537Hypothetically, in this purely hypothetical situation that will never happen, the best thing to do would be not to shoot the first commissar or draft officer you see, but the first Jew. After a few months of this, the government will decide that fighting foreign wars is "not in the national interest" because it would be more difficult to fake elections in favor of Jewish shit if there aren't any Jews around to vote for it. And why not? You wouldn't have anything to lose, and would die a much worse death on the battlefield. Defending yourself and your country on your own soil is honorable. Being kidnapped and forced to fight in bumfuckistaine for Blackrock is not.
>>524161085as opposed to what? joining them... and helping ZOG?
>>524162508>To support the Afghan government?lol. israel, you retard.
>>524162860nobody thinks that. that chink should be flayed. all zogbots are demons.
>>524160068What's so bad about that? At least the man isn't dead
>>524164877>Defending yourself and your country on your own soil is honorable. Being kidnapped and forced to fight in bumfuckistaine for Blackrock is not.Enemies both foreign and domestic
>>524165130Fuck off retard. It's da joos!!
>>524162508you forgot about the "disabled" non combat vets that got a papercut, some of those fuckers are claiming 100%. Some of you retards think immigration is a problem, look at the papercut vets claiming 5k a month while still working.
>>524165351You cannot deal with the foreign enemy without first dealing with the domestic enemy.
>>524162002Your own shitty and corrupt government will always be easier to overthrow than a foreign occupier government. Atleast Ukraine is trying to get their shit together.
>>524160068Imagine if he became smarter
>>524160068
>>524160068Also dont forget, videos of your death will be filmed in 4k and shared with the whole world and everyone will make fun of you in your dying moments, no one will be grateful tomyou, not even the jews who sent you.
>>524168718
>>524168793
>>524163537>i think that will happenThats where we go hahahahahahahaha
Britain after "winning" WW2
>>524168820It's ok, he was only disarmed.
>>524170393I thought Carlos got deported?
>>524160194slavic people will never live in peace as long as there's the great steppe just outside europeeven if russians disappeared completely a new steppe race would emerge and take their place
>>524160068when u nut but she still sucking
>>524162002Anon, they killed the young men. The war is to replace them with ugly jews You will get another Israel
>>524162914there's a whole population of inbred niggers up north mississippi that look like this. we call em pinheads
>>524173448Top kek
>>524160808what a total fucking shitbird.I would drown him in a shit filled toilet if I ever saw him IRL.I am actually angrier that MULTIPLE retards signed off on this fucking faggot being a fucking paypig for the rest of his life.I know a lot of guys that deployed and are all fucked up and they don't get shit. and this fucking flip nigger gets a 100% disability rating and HE DIDN'T EVEN COMPLETE BASIC TRAINING..... 4 fucking days.... AAAAAHHHHH I'M GOING TO HUNT HIM DOWN AND DROWN HIM IN A SHIT FILLED TOILET.oh, I really fucking hope this is ragebait, because it is so messed up.
>>524160068What's he thinking?
>>524160631>>524160632>>524175256>Glad I still have these cringe tattoos. They're such a good conversation starter
>>524160068When will he report back for duty at the front?
>>524160068Imagine carrying him around by his head handle, bringing him aboard flights as your carryon, etc.
>>524160808
>>524160068Since Russia can't really even deal with Ukraine, they always post these threads in the vain hope that other countries are as cowardly as they are themselves.
>>524174305
when I see this guys stupid fucking skull I get visibly angryI want to crush the last remaining remnants of his tiny fucking brain into nothing
>>524160068this is me after using 4chan
>>524160068I wonder if he's calm and if he still remembers who he used to be. his face doesn't look palsy like brain damaged but its hard to tell
>>524160068do you think these guys are still sentient? or are they just empty potatoes?
>>524160452they literally are. pretty funny, if you think about it. this is the true problem with democracy, any dumbass fucking retard people can choose to nullify their past and utterly destroy their country, if they CHOOSE to. the problem is that they literally often do choose to do exactly that. why? just because. so even if you fight for a good and worthy cause, your people can (democratically) choose to undo it all later on and there will be nothing you will be able to do about it.
>>524160068>Anti-war/anti-draft threadHe looks like he never wanted to be there.
>>524164362go figure
dont fall for the muk 4k$ griftit is not worth it.
this could be you
in what world this is worth it?
>>524160068average blumpf voter
>>524160068God help that man.
>>524171663Wow. Pole is making sense. Amazing
>>524160452lol thats funny mister america, i think your veterants think exactly the same. lucky for them most of them are dead and dont have to deal with accelleratemaxxed clownworld.
>>524168793>>524160068Okay real talk, if you end up like this with a significant portion of your skull removed, assuming your brain is intact enough to permit an otherwise normal life, do you have to wear a helmet every moment except maybe the shower? Like would accidental bumps to the brain in an area only covered by skin be dangerous, or not that big a deal?
>>524163286the irony is that if USA got invaded by russia you would actually become more white
>>524160068>tfw you lose most of your brain and people keep you alive to fuck your ass until you die
>>524167949>Ukraine trying to get their shit together This is the exact thing normies do as well. They view the world through such bias, such manufactured world view, that they aren't able to process the very thing in front of their eyes.
Any advice on how to get the fuck out of Europe before the shit hit the fan ?I would rather build drones in a Russian factory than to fight for "my" country. Seriously, after all the things my country has done to me, it would be bad if I didn’t return the favor.
>>524163128Military is really the only field where paid personnel are called volunteers.
>>524160452He fought so that ziggers wouldn't enslave his people again. Mutts will never understand because they have slave mentality.
>>524160574>fapping to mudsharks riding nigger baseball bats>canadaPajeet spotted
>>524178866ah yes, russia known for treating it's inhabitants humanly
>>524178852there was no mention or implication of him getting fucked, u just made that up
>>524178866pol will tell you to go to russia or xina and be subject to their dictatorian measures and probably just fucking die.
>>524179028only if you believe the propaganda, and I know how the peoples that write the propaganda treat their citizen.
>p-please don't join your military and absolutely rape my country very effective post, Ivan. I'm aure that will deter them.
>>524179011It would make sense that negros have the largest penises since they are the most promiscuous, which is directly related to the evolutionary utility of the penis as a pump to remove competitor sperm. Human primates hear "big dick" and think "more masculine" and higher rank which complicates communication.>we dont screw like the black folks do we just scew til we are through
>>524179009pol love russians, theyre so based. their drumpf is also the biggest fan of vlad.they get moist when they see white people die. thats americans for you.
>>524162914he is okay,thats my friend Nikola he is in Kraków now work in local żabka,sold me cigaretes this morningSLAVA UKRAINI
if they want you to die in a phony war against Russia so that they can replace you with migrants and set up the NWO then you should quit the militaryhttps://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/2003323637726839122
>>524160574>Stay home, eating tendies w/ special mulan dipping sauce. In mom's basement being the best edgelord you can be. Xvideos fapping to mudsharks riding nigger baseball bats until the cows come home.Sounds like hell
>>524179434lol
>>524160068Anti-war propaganda is defending the great replacement status quo.Nothing ever changes at peace, there will be no Remigration at peace. War is Europe's only hope.Of course once war starts and you get armed and trained, the correct course of action is storming parliament and killing everyone inside.
>>524160068Recently I hooked up with an 18 year old Ukrainian femboy twink who came here to get away from the war a couple years ago with his mom. Treated him like a whore, he wanted me to choke and slap him, throated my dick like a tracheoscopy. His dad is probably fighting in the war right now or died in it. Meanwhile his son and daughter and former wife are here having their backs blown out by leafs (he told me his mom has multiple men she has over). If they had just negotiated a deal two years ago he'd have his family together or still be alive.
>>524179890zaar thats a wendy's
>>524179340100%. I miss natsoc /pol/. People go on about how the 2016 wave of MIGAjeets ruined /pol/, but the absolute DEATH blow was the invasion of Ukraine. Russian active measures have converted every MIGAjeet from an annoying idiot who you can ignore into a full on anti white shill.
>>524160068>"..."This nigger is thinking about absolutely nothing due to having no brain.
>>524160068young people are dying for the boomers. this is what war is all about. boomers should die.
>>524180028Natsoc pol wouldn't support jewkraine either because they're literally run by Jews. Actual natsoc /pol/ would want the whites within the Russian and Ukrainian army not to kill one another and just over throw their leaders.
>>524160068...
>>524180832>would want the whites within the Russian and Ukrainian army not to kill one anotherWhich is why they would not idolise Putin, the guy who began and continues the full scale war.
>>524160068He now looks like a retarded wokak
>>524160068Take note /pol/, this is why you don't use headphones.
>>524180533War are made to kill the workforce surplus.And having city to rebuild it's also good for the construction Jew.Just look how the previous war change practically no boarder. And how they put everyone in small and depressing apartment.
>>524180985War is far from full scale in Ukraine. If the Russians wanted to they could actually annihilate the country but that'd run 3 fat risks1. A NATO response would be very very likely. 2. If not NATO then he'd take the country and have to rebuild it from the ground up3. Mass civilian killings in massive numbers rivalling ww2 will not fly well with literally anyoneSo he's forced to play it conventionally and get molested as the weeks roll by. Brit bong I hope you don't die for the Jews if WW3 happens and actually protect your people from brown hordes when shit hits the fan. God knows we all should. You fuckers ruled a quarter of the earth. Make sure the pajeets remember that.
>>524160492The purpose of wars between kiked nations is to kill whites. I don't care about middle east military adventures, I do care about brother wars.
>>524179684what democracy, nigger der Leyen? Did we vote for lockdowns, forced injections, mass immigfation and big brother?
>>524181437
>>524180088Unironically just kill the poor guy
>>524181075Too bad they are killing the productive people
>>524181517Same shit as Russia will not invade Ukraine and commit a small scale 3 day military operation? Should I be worried?
>>524178866I have good advice for you but I'm not going to give it because I hate french "people" and honestly wish you all got massacred in a war
>>524181517No Russia wants to take over our farm lands they obliviously don't have enough, they also want our non-existent factory and our large service industry that creates nothing other than fake jobs.
>>524163286don't think just because you are an incel the normal majority with jobs and families will give you a pass. incel or not you have a duty to the people around you to protect their women and children since you leech off their society. you depend on them and their taxes so you will defend them. simple as
>>524181638Why not just buy him a baseball cap instead? It would improve how his head looks.
>>524160068Picrel is to blame.
>>524181661Jews hate competition.
>>524163286Always the same story always and everywhere
>>524181858how so?it's jewtrannyans and western tyrants such as the merkel cunt and our traitor hollande, who started it all
>>524160068I agree. Russians should still die en masse
I'm an immigrant, joined the Army in 2002. Went to basic at FT Leonardwood. I lied & told them I was suicidal in the reception battalion first week. Got discharged. Filed for PTSD disability & got a 100% rating, I started getting $3k monthly tax free & it increases just about every year, right now I'm getting $4300 monthly. Also I get another $1000 from my states SSDI. It's so easy to scam this country, you stupid whites made it so easy. I literally havent contributed shit and I'm set for the rest of my life. I travel all over Latin America(mostly Medellin) I wake up at noon, go to the gym & fuck gorgeous 18 year old whores literally every day. While all you pathetic white christcucks jerk off in your parents basement all day. Thanks for the gibs white losers.
>>524181692How would they attack NATO or Europe if they're struggling so bad with a bunch of hohols
>>524160631He's just glad to not be one of them
>>524182070Is this true Obama and Hollande are cousins and whole elite including Putin or is it just schizo rambling? It wouldn't even surprise le at this point.
>>524168820
>>524162002>once they have their autonomylmao
>>524182484not that I knowjohn kerry and brice lalonde are cousins, thoughkerry succeeded the clinton cunt as secretary of state, and both are heavily involved too in causing that shitshow
>>524167949>Atleast Ukraine is trying to get their shit together.Are they?
>>524160452How does a nigga even survive a double lobectomy????
>>524179009Instead Ukrainians are getting enslaved under zog.>>524179340It's not about Trump at all; he's one of the most hated people on this board.
>>524162002>Ukraine have their autonomy
>>524182776yeah. pretty dumb of them, but they gave up their nukes to russia under the condition they would never be invaded by russia, and, welp, here we are
>>524180985Putin didn't start the war. And believe me, every Ukrainian casualty is a tragedy as far as he's concerned, but the Russians can only fight what's being chucked at them. They would much rather fight Americans directly than fight their brother nation.
>>524182899oh no what silly horrific mistake ukraine could make, good thing russia wou-
>>524182933WELL GOLLY HOW DID I MISS THAT
>>524181692The difference is, everyone knew Russia was going to have its hand forced in Ukraine, whereas there is no reason to invade anything west of it.
>>524182902Ukraine never had nukes of its own; they were Soviet nukes, and the codes were in Moscow. Ukies couldn't have used them even if they'd wanted.
>>524162914Nothing. Thats how ghosts of Kiyvee are suppose to look like.
>>524182980Why would Indians go to Russia where they'll be watched like hawks and sent home when they're no longer needed, when they could instead go to Canada or the US and bring their entire family and stay forever while doing whatever the fuck they want?
>>524182899Have you noticed that jews look more dead inside than usual?
>>524181931So good lucky living in India Planet >CompetitionThey are just so gross lucky no shit their women are always trying to fuck goyims instead Hell feminism was pushed by yentas because they wanted the goyim cock for themselves
>>524182933>Putin didn't start the war.It must have been the nato expansion that started it
>>524160068Sheesh, is there anything left in that dome to save?
>>524160574What the fuck even happened there???
>>524183107They know people are tired of their bullshit
>>524183095Aren't the US/Canada hard to get into?I keep hearing complaints about tech workers with H1-Bs in the US, but people who work in different industries don't have that pathway, so they might as well take Russia up on their offer.
>>524183095that is the most excellent question. why WOULD indians go to russia after putin met up with indias leader and went on live television to beg more of them to move to russia? are they fucking stupid? it baffles the mind.anyways it happened so iunno, ask putin i guess
>>524179009bulgarbro, their women are fucking niggers.You couldnt give me a reason why should I fight for my country, let alone this shithole which has a jewish president .
>>524171663I'm not so sure about that, personally. There is something unique about Russia specifically. Its history, its culture, its conditions... it's one thing to say there will always be war and conflict because there likely will, unfortunately, but the specific mixture Russia brings to the table shouldn't be underestimated. It is a nation and culture built for a thousand years for servility in the populace and aggression at all strata of society.
>>524182933>Putin didn't start the war. And believe me, every Ukrainian casualty is a tragedy as far as he's concernedThis is at least as dumb, and maybe dumber, than believing Trump is a fine, upstanding boy from Queens whose sole, burning desire is to improve life for the average American kek.
>>524182070MP4 related. The modern Ruzzians are terrorists who, together with Norks and Iran, are trying to destabilize the world order.
>>524182933>every Ukrainian casualty is a tragedy as far as he's concernedAlso, you're missing the other half of this statement: while the death of each single man is a tragedy, the deaths of millions are a statistic.
>>524183011>everyone knew Russia was going to have its hand forced in Ukraineforced to do what? what would of happened if they just had done nothing and agreed to not invade ukraine as per the agreement for them trading their nukes to russia.what exactly would of of happened if they had done nothing. like they had of done, for 14 yearswhat happens at 15 yearsthey join nato and instead of getting invaded they....dont get invaded?oh no. i believe this is where you both tell me ukraine has a million casulities but at the same time has none
>>524183579Nobody cares, Russia didn't lock us down, Russia isn't asking for 40 trillion dollars of debt repaid???, I don't really give a fuck about Russia and neither should you unless you're working for ZOG and your life is in danger kek
>>524183579>WE REALLY NEED SHEKELS THIS TIME GOY>TIMMY IS GOING TO RUSSIA IT'S FOR YOUR FREEDOM
>>524183255You're saying you WOULDN'T die for our glorious leader, wonderful oligarchs, and bootlicking fellow countrymen???Traitor scum baka
> The self-destructive anti-war stance is that all war is bad and must be avoided at all costs including surrender> The neutral anti-war stance is that war is highly undesirable but sometimes the only way to settle disputes> The belligerent anti-war stance is that war is necessary and should only be avoided if one is unlikely to win> The intelligent anti-war stance is that war is ultimately unavoidable and destructive, a contest between nations, ideologies, and faiths, the natural state of man; therefore one should prepare and practice the art of war to win as swiftly as possible to limit its destructiveness and to secure ones goals, while perhaps also deterring those with their own agressions
>>524160068fedora anataomy
>>524183874You dont care because you are a useless troglodyte failure, an NPC that does nothing but regurgitate shit he read somewhere else without a single proper thought in his head.Take your Haloperidol or kys.
>>524179009you're right. instead of being slaves to russian kike bankers, they will be slaves to american kike bankers.now they also get niggers and jeets too.
>>524185498>americunt rule>BBC porn 24/7>ruski rule>shot in the headhmmmm
>>524185176Too soon.
>>524160068would a person in his state still be able to post on /pol/?
>>524183440>began with rusgolia's full scale invasion of khazaria in february 2022lol, merkelstopped reading that laughable drivel there, lmao
>>524160068>tell you what
>>524186053of course: but only with a jewflag
>>524160068Head like a screwdriver
>>524183049>jesus christ take your own nukes back, please, just, please dont invade us>they do it anywayswhat do you even do
>>524160338the jew on zelensky's left fled ukraine for israel within the last few weeks after massive corruption (stealing public funds)
>>524186136>basic english phrasewhats next, a post about you being confused about what the word "the" is?
>>524160068You won't do shit ranjeesh.
>>524160338>>524187070https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/zelenskyy-faces-the-biggest-corruption-scandal-of-his-presidency/
>>524178795Can you post the full video?
>>524181814>normal majorityI don't give even a slightest shit what goyims want or think.>you have a dutyNo I don't. You didn't give me shit to ask for anything back. In fact, you take away and steal from me all the time.>to the people around you to protect their women and childrenCuck mentality. Which I support because someone do have to look for my own kids.>you leech off their societyMorally and objectively correct choice. Or is it only ok when rich/jews/niggers/sand people do it?>you depend on them and their taxes so you will defend themNo, no I am not. In fact, it's the opposite. They need me to work and pay taxes while they themselves don't do shit and live off scamming the system and welfare.
>>524160194>YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO AGREE WITH PUTIN >NOT LIKE THAT
>>524181814Diversity is supposed to be our strength. Send the diversity to fight.
>>524162508Fuck off nigger my family needs Tricare.>t. Future zogbot
>>524160068So that's what Tim Pool looks like without the beanie
>>524187118You might be autistic, anon.The head was posted as a visual counterpoint to the man lacking head.
>>524160574Not bullshitting at all, this is the first video Ive seen since the first months of this war that didnt look like one or two random unarmed dudes out in the middle of nowhere being sacraficed for no reason. This actually looks like a battle took place.
>>524179009ukraine wanted and wants to join europe and nato, which is what they're fighting for as russia wouldn't have invaded if they stayed neutral. they very much want the full globohomo treatment. which is why no nationalist should support them.you shouldn't support russia either, for similar reasons.
>>524160068Not wantind do die for Israel is extremely antisemetic.Surely you don't want to be labelled as an antisemite, do you?
>>524178825Brain isn't too vulnerable to pressure. If you hit your head it bumps against the inside of your skull, where concussions come from. Without skull it will be more squishy squishy, not too bad.The missing portion of the skull tends to be replaced with an implant towards the end of treatment, so a helmet is not strictly necessary.
>>524187770>Ural chamber of commcerceAh yes, that famous American geography knowledge once again. Go look up where the Urals are and who lives there.>it's fucking mountains in the bumfuck of nowhere>nobody lives there outside two major industrial citiesIn other words these jeets are slaves for the bauxite mines. They're not repalcing anybody. Sending one million people there doubles or triples the population, meaning it's a massive expansion of the industrial base, but in a region Russians aren't inclined to move to.
>>524190210>Sending one million people there doubles or triples the population,So you are saying the russian government completely eradicates the local culture for capitalist gains? Interesting. I have heard that critique before.
So if your country was invaded, would you do some sort of effort for a collective surrender so you don't have to be drafted?
>>524160068>implying we dont have enough motivated volunteers to wipe out china once and for alldraft-kvetching is my favorite chink shit you guys are just revealing your own pathetic selves
