What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism? I'm always open to debating leftists, liberals, and neocons, but they almost always shut down after slight resistance.
Only poor people talk about white nationalism.
>>524162104You ain't rich nigga get real wilt loudly crying face
>>524161874It's that nationalism is retarded and "whites" are retarded as well. I want to have nothing to do with your shit just because it's a hecking national government and "white". Sounds fucking demented.How about you try not-some-kiked-psyop nationalism and "eugenics" instead? Or Eugenic Non-Retarded Nationalism for short.Then it might not fail pathetically to boot.
>>524161874The opposing argument is just a mish mash of how White people deserve to die off
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>>524162258>nationalism, without a nation
that “white people” are lost ephraim who will reunite with judah, prophesied by ezekiel
>>524161874cognitive dissonance is the normal for most people now. they are unable to disconnect from the propaganda due to the lifetime of drumming "love Jews with all your might" teachings in government schools.we here are waiting for the boomer demise in order to see if we can unleash ourselves to deal with the invaders and their helpers.
>>524162339That's not an argument; it's a heuristic. Heuristics can be wrong. Wildly wrong.
>>524162393Well if its trial and error why did the nazis err and lose? Besides, hitler ate shit
>>524162380Why wait for them to die, becausr toure too pussy to act now?
>>524162502Hitler's opponents were also white nationalists.
>>524162354You're living under a fucking rock? Nationalism is about what's printed on your passport.>and now you gotta fight the guy who has something else printed on theirs, goyI officially give up on your thread.
>>524161874There are plenty of good arguments. If you are standing in the way of others who seek Christ, you are hindering God's work, and that is NEVER a good idea. Jesus accepts anyone who accepts him. It doesn't matter where they are from, or what color they are. It does not matter if you like it or not. I will go further and say it is dangerous because you are actually working AGAINST God. There is no such thing as "white nationalism" in the kingdom of God. It does not exist. Jesus himself was a Jew as were the 12 Apostles. Now, that does not mean that all Jews are good because Jesus did not get along with the Pharisees, who were a strict Jewish sect.
>>524162619Nationalism is about blood.
>>524162586So you guys became white nationalists to kill & murder each other in the millions and hitler ate shit? Oh i get it
>>524162773Nationalism does not exist in the spirit realm.
>>524162619Completely ahistorical definition of nation.
>>524161874one thing is white can be hard to define in North America. Which ancestry is white and how much non-white is okay?and also there's nothing wrong with a lot of non-whites mostly they're just annoying
>>524162920Yeah, the entire purpose of the ministry is to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. Nowhere in the Bible does it say "do not spread the gospel to black people" or "do not spread the gospel to Jews." Instead of hating them, why not get busy in the ministry and work on helping them find Christ?
>>52416292090% say>there's nothing wrong with a lot of non-whites You move to Africa then.
>>524162731>>524162857>>524163076And what if I'm not a christcuck
>>524162731Go kill yourself you stupid little nigger lover bastard, no one's stopping you from believing shit, and they aren't stopping your precious subhuman monkeys either. Unless it's Islam and that is because they simply are innately incompatible with living in peace with anyone of any other religion and are proactively encouraged to violently overthrow, dominate and convert everyone.>>524162857And we don't we live in the material world abiding by it's rules and implications>>524163102I say we force them. Stupid Jewshit like that leaf's mewling are easily solved. Nuremburg standards, done. If we want more, we can it after. In fact, we can start with remigration and just keep going until we're satisfied. This faggot trash of "who is a Caucasian oh I'm retarded I uh, I just don't know guys uh" you can tell 95% of all cases with your own eyesight. Everyone Can.
>>524163102A lot of people in the church ministry already have moved to Africa. One way to make a difference. A black person who accepts Jesus is a brother. If you hate your brother, then things aren't going to go well for you. You absolutely DO NOT want to try and close the door on people. That is extremely dangerous. I cannot believe that this is even a debate.
There's none and it's silly to look for one. At best there's been ignorance and I honestly have to wonder if all of the big debater leftoids even pretend anymore that things like white genocide aren't real. Erosion of national identity is obviously catostrophic and ever more obviously so. Pretending race isn't real is retarded and I don't even think up and coming normalfags are deluded on this matter.
Ethnonationalism makes sense, white is too broad and subject to economic conditions/cultural perception
>>524163266Well, how "Christ-like" of you.
>>524163369I'm not here to impress mk'er best you figure that out quick subversive.
>>524161874>nightmedia asmon kike defender of pajeets
>>524162258Go back to India, Rajesh
>>524161874more people = more food options
>>524163457Hatred is the opposite of love. God is love. You don't like it? Then maybe you aren't the Christian that you thought you were. Pretty simple.
>>524162234> You ain't rich nigga get real wilt loudly crying faceOh ok. You sound like an expert on being rich.
>>524161874>What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism?its simply evil and can be dismissed outright
>>524161874I'm a leftist but I support nationalism. Facism and Nazism are fucking cringe though. In the end they killed more white people than some joos ever could
I’m going to start a diverse gated residential community. The starting price for most of the homes there will be 1.5 million dollars. I expect it will be a vibrant ethnic enclave.
>>524163592And you dead means your mother screams like a traitorous hog, what's your point nigger, I see your pompous faggot ass subversion and raise you a concussion if you look at me wrong. Shut your nigger mouth enemy, I don't care.When you bleed and get to God you tell him "yeah I was a outgroup biased piece of shit, and was a tool for Jews and my family suffered for it, but hey I was also a self righteous faggot that sold out my own people, too. How moral of me."I want to get rid of people like you, anon. I think you'd make a perfect pile of shit to go get eaten by niggers in fact. Off to africa with the traitor pile of shit I say. Kill yourself fag wish I could help you out.Needs to be legal we can render onto Caesar haf.
>>524163350"White" is effectively an ethnic identifier in the colonies, and there's utility in recognizing the commonality of racial interests between different European-descendant ethne
Google “law firm” gee golly look at all of these negroes
>>524163266How about we just kill murderers and evil people in general pedophiles etc .. it will be like the purge movie. I think people will go for that more than trying to single put based on appearance. Like do you hate Japanese people too? You just sound dumb labeling a whole race like that. Even abos can be cool. They invented the didgeridoo and the boomerang. I bet if we saw a picture of what you really look like it would be at all how you make yourself out to be. Your prolly just some liar piece of shit who wants to sacrifice babies or something
>>524161874Ideology embraced by those who have accomplished nothing in their lives and thus grasp at anything that can justify their existence.
>>524161874There is none. Racism is evil
>>524163528Just travel if you want it so much. Or make it yourself. Or start a restaurant. Unless I forgot the magic gene that prevents white people from making other types of food.
>>524164104Like Thomas Jefferson? Not an argument BTW.
>>524163788>>524164106Why?
Poor people hate Jews and chinks because they deal with working class low class kikes and shit. Rich Jews are just rich white guys that are Jewish.
>>524162920It pretty self-evidently means "of European genotype", nobody seriously thinks Italians or Spaniards "aren't white" besides a tiny minority of nordicist schizos. You can argue how much non-white admixture somebody can have before they're officially Not White™ (5%? 10%? Does it differ based on whether it's African or Asian admixture?) but that's a separate issue
>>524164175Poor example, he fathered numerous half black children. My point stands.
>>524164175You're so f.o.s.
>>524164143> Unless I forgot the magic gene that prevents white people from making other types of food.Skinny German white guy chef hereBon appetite!
>>524164229>ItaliansOnly became "white" recently and were historically never considered white.
>>524164208because it just is ok
>>524164043I think the only dangerous moron is you, scum. Look at what you've done you worthless baster pile of trash, EVERY city infested with niggers is a miserable decayed shithole. Every single place, idiot. Everywhere they go they turn into the miserable stone age savannas from which they came.And abbos? Kek you faggot yeah they're great aren't they. Burned down all the forests before whites even showed up just because they're so shit at chasing animals it helped them hunt a little better, usually have literal subhuman IQs that are under the level considered to be mentally retarded, and live their entire parasitic monkey lives leeching off of the government and huffing gasoline. Oh what beautiful, precious precious animals you have. I'm sure they've made some wonderful finger-paints in some cave they took a shit in 20,000 years ago. It's a beautiful as a monkey eating ants off a stick I say. What more could we ask for.
>>524164293*Eighth blackDo your research.
>>524164380what is the one drop rule?
>>524164345Do you actually believe this? Italians were considered white in 1790. At no point in American history were they considered nonwhite.
>>524164345> Only became "white" recently and were historically never considered white.Exactly. Ooga booga bix nood muddafucka
>>524164352They were in h.s. and solved what every mathematician said was impossible for the last 2,000 years stop lying yer dumb and will wear yourself out and have a stroke
>>524164421Mixed offspring (i.e. mulattos) were treated the same as full-blood Africans. It never meant that someone with 1% nonwhite blood wasn't considered white.
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>>524164462>>524164514Yeah, you're clearly retarded. Good day.
>>524164559This is what I mean when I say they shut down lol. You're not even responding to my points.
>>524164640You lost any credibility long ago to deserve any response anyways who cares
>>524164318Asian people eat more spam than white people
>>524162339The best argument against democracy is a long talk with the average voter
>>524164208It leads to violence
>>524164480>breaking news goy>niggers prove triangle is triangle, and does triangle stuff yet againKek niggers and their need to validate their niggers. You know what combine those two actually. Have a nigger do a double backflip and then say "squares have 4 sides" so it seems super deep anon, then you can throw a big monkey-party and suck their cocks kek. Big brain af in here.
>>524161874white people don't breed and they won't start again until women's rights are eradicated.
What is "white"?
>>524164907And current "anti racist" sentiments haven't?
>>524164907How's that?
>>524164926Investigate them law enforcement
>>524164926>doesn't understand what a mathematical proof isYou're just pretending to be white
>>524164724why do you love niggers and kikes and mudslimes and jeets?
>>524164907Brown people lead to violence
>>524165394There are literally like hundreds of proofs of the Pythagorean Theorem.
>>524165460I think there's was the 20th if I remember correctly. They aren't so easy to come up with, there's was the first new one in over 100 years.
>>524165155Reee plz help me, my .jpgs are stupid and my takes are ass shuddit down. Shut up you dumb nasty little Jew, you aren't scaring me.>>524165394I don't care they "proved" something we already know yet another way and you're scrambling like a crazed niggerlover to rave about it. *drop random shit it falls again, gravity proven again, except nigger so noddle wave your arms in the air and soiface* just go end yourself already
>>524165594Yeah sure sure lol
>>524161874Because then white people will kick me out and my people cant function on our own.
>>524165594>Mmm, oh they're gonna, they're-they're they're gonna mmm mmm>they're gonna be in the academia history boooooooks
>>524165151It dehumanizes people in your head, which makes it easy to justify violence towards them
>>524165702>I don't care they "proved" something we already know yet another way and you're scrambling like a crazed niggerlover to rave about it.*drop random shit it falls again, gravity proven again, except nigger so noddle wave your arms in the air and soiface* just go end yourself alreadyShowing yet again you know nothing about mathematics ShutTheFuck Up Pleb
>>524165851kill yourself retarded little nerd
>>524165851I've heard enough of these stories to know there's always a catch
>>524165939It's a real proof, the way they did is interesting, it's not a con like a lot of people on this board claimed at the time. Probably not tremendously useful but who knows 50 years from now someone might write another proof based on it that has a real world application, math is weird like that.
>>524166185Thats cool and all but one math proof doesnt outweight 50% of violent crime rates.
>>524166261Oh absolutely. I'm a math lover, not a nigger lover
>>524166185Never said it was a con, it's just like...You can prove lots of things that have never been proven before if nobody's thought to do it.
>>524164143a huge chunk of this country, largely women, think foodmaxxing and populationmaxxing are inherently good. Surface-level globohomo enjoyers
>>524161874>What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism? Something about shekels increasing in number if we import billions of third worlders, I can't remember.
>>524161874>good-faith argument>using history revision and shitty translations of the TalmudGet fucked incel
>>524161874The eternal Anglo. They are why there can never be such a thing. They are obsessed with laziness you see. They desire someone else always to do things for them. So they spread Africans around the globe, then they spread the humble pajeet. They offshored their industries and attacked their populations with unlimited waves of migration while selling their nations great grandchildren to bankers as slaves for eternity. There will never be a white nationalism because the rule is white self predation.
>>524166419Indeed good luck sitting on your ass like some grand Greek philosopher with your kike professors, thinking up new bullshit for the sake of it, when your pet niggers need their throughs filled 3 times to day. Then your little dissertation is dug out of pile for use as a nice bit of shit paper 100 years later by their half animal descendants after their meal of feral housecat.May-be... he will fold it into a crude triangle.
>>524166419>if nobody's thought to do it.Yeah but that's the nature of mathematics anon. That's why what they did is remarkable. They used trig to prove Pythagoras theorem. Trig tables and trigonometric theory has existed for over 2000 years and no one thought to do it, either because they thought it was impossible or because they couldn't see it. I promise you the morning it was published there were MIT and Stanford professors kicking themselves for not having seen a way to that proof.
>>524166795Lol
Because it simply doesn't work. People will never be race concious enough to agree to it. For most retards they see democracy like some magical genie that will grant their wishes if they just win. They want to end world hunger, but they don't know why. They think if they can live in a house then everyone should be able to. They think that if white people are human then so is everyone else. They are simply too fucking retarded to think about the broader implications of their wishes.
>>524165848In what way does it lead to dehumanising people? You're just making up bullshit.
A homogenized society is stagnation.Diversity creates better outcomes.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30765101/It's why we see such inventive leaps here in America
>>524167021People used to be race conscious enough though? So the only thing that changed was jewish control of institutions.
>>524163076Tbh, Christ may be the only thing capable of getting jeets to shower (with water, not piss).Spreading the gospel and wanting the riffraff out of what's supposed to be my house are not mutually exclusive positions
>>524169781We need all of these INNOVATIONS like tent cities, fent zombies and payday loans.
>>524169940funny enough, fent and payday loans were invented by whites
>>524161874>What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism?White male numbers aren't enough because even if you organize a military force it won't be big enough to exterminate jews everywhere fast enough to stop kikes from manipulating 95% of the worlds population against Whites. Nick Fuentes' plan to take over the institutions first with Christian Nationalism is the only way to do it despite how risky it is.You HAVE to abolish the jews center of power (jews literally own the US dollar through the federal reserve) first before attacking them directly.You cannot abolish jewish influence anywhere as long as they own the US dollar.
>>524166612This is cute>mistranslationYou have no problem posting the correct translations with the quoted contexts, right?
>>524161874White solidarity is a myth, there's no nation to speak of. Too easy
>>524169781>Diversity creates better outcomes.Diversity of environment creats genetic diversity for a genetically homogeneous people over time, fucking smoothbrain
>>524169781Why are you people so obsessed with replacing white people?
>>524161874>What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism?White liberal women are responsible for most of the shit relating to immigration in America.If you want a true white nation, you would not only need to combat the browns and the jaybirds, but the very people who sleep in your bed. A significant portion of your own movement would be simping for idiots that secretly want to fuck the third world because they are subconsciously attracted to dangerous things.Basically, unless you're prepared to undo women's suffrage, you're not mentally ready for that struggle.
>>524170391because Whites are the actual chosen people of God.While jews are the chosen people of the devil.
>>524170281okay, and? you're proving my point... diversity creates novelty that leads to better outcomes
>>524170391is there a downside?
>>524170466That's dumb as shit bro
>>524161874it's just unrealistic, there's no turning back time you're never going to go out in the streets lynching everyone you should just learn to live with it 'cus everyone on this planet is an individual can't judge based on race. but being anti-immigration is a totally fine totally normal opinion if it affects the quality of life, can't really get rid of everyone non-white though that ship has long sailed.
>>524170621You literally linked a paper on diversity being goodDo you lack basic understanding and reasoning?
>>524170737maybe whites aren't part of the bigger picture of humanity, maybe they're meant to die off because of genetic inferiority
>>524161874>What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism?The problem is that whites aren't really as smart as you think. They are midwits in a good way. They're hard working, honest, and good people over all, but they lack intelligence. Living in a all white society is pretty comfy, but it's not competitive on the global market. Also another problem is that because whites were some easily manipulated to do bad things in the past, other races are pretty pissed off at the whites and would go open season on their ass as soon as they think the whites are weak. Basically you can't have an all white nation because midwits aren't competitive enough on the global market, and once another race have the edge on the white, they'll gangbang the fuck out of that nation. like actual blacked.com on a nation scale.
>>524170885If that were true we would've never become white if you want to use your scientific findings
>>524161874>What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism?There isn't one.>>524162104>The very first response is a bad-faith argumentYou're not really helping your cause, here
>>524170956you're not making sense
>>524162339Thank god Jewgle is here to do my thinking for me
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>>524163788>White people wanting their own homeland is inherently evil>But Israel, Ethiopia, China, and literally every non-White ethno-state is fine>Don't question this or you're a racist, goy
>>524164345We can get autistic about the minor differences between Meds and Nords after we kick out all the jews and shitskins.
>>524171178Did we not all come out of Africa?
>>524171593depends on your faith
>>524171733So you only use scientific findings when it's helpful to your agenda?
>>524171817doesn't make it any less true
>>524171894So selective scienceGood to know
>>524171966wooosh
>>524172043I'm sure if you still had a brain the wind wouldn't go right through your head
>>524172110you're one to talk, britbong
>>524161874>What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism?There isn't oneAccess to Whites isn't a human right
>>524161874Intolerance and inequality is built in. It'd funny that gen-z dislikes the zeitgeist not experiencing ithe other way round, that has been going on since humans started
>>524162234my neighborhood is 96% white and 3% East Asian, it's really nice.
>>524161874Racism is bad because nobody is genetically superior except for New Zealanders
>>524161874Civic Nationlism will always win out over some race based bullshit where no one can agree where to draw the line.
>>524161874There is none. It's why no discussion about NS is ever allowed besides an extremely vague and unsubstantiated "it needs le enemy to fight at all times!". NS is impossible to argue against.
>>524175485>NS is impossible to argue against.I mean, China does it and they claim it's Communism
>>524163291>>524163076>>524162857>>524162731t. giga CHRISTKEK
>>524161874may i ask you how old you are? i remember being 16 years old here 10 years ago and now im 26,
>>524175438civnat breaks down because there's no basis for the nation.Hitler was spot on when he said that race is the foundation of country.
>>524162790>>524162790>>524162790
>>524161874I do think it's pretty interesting that the moment his dad died he basically stopped pretending to be a moderate.
>>524161874.far Right WHITE NATIONALISM (non-groyper stuffs) can't be broken by any anti-Nazi, Centrist, or pro-Left argument.if White people don't have a country... Where will YOU go?
It is actually quite fascinating to watch. White nationalism is being dismantled in real time, not by leftists or liberals, but by white people themselves. For a long time, the success of industrialization created this illusion that whites were a naturally superior race. However, 21st century whites are debunking this myth every day. They now avoid essential labor, refuse to reproduce, and are being replaced by immigrants because they simply can no longer maintain their own society. Even in the competition for high-end, high-wage positions, they are losing to immigrants who are more driven and capable. We should actually be grateful to 21st century whites. By failing so spectacularly to hold their ground, they have proven once and for all that white supremacy was never real.
>>524162104Because poor white people have to deal with shitskins on a dily basis. Hope that help
>>524161874Listen retard you can cope with crypto, porn, weed, racism, sexism, gambling, stocks, futures, video games, alcohol all you want the fact of the matter is you own nothing and your children will own even less than you because those who own the assets, land, buildings will EAT the middle class since their money works for them and you cannot compete. Anybody retarded enough to listen to billionaires like Trump and his ilk deserves a life of anxiety because you voted for that. We definitely are heading toward becoming a third world but it’s not because dirty niggers and Indians, it’s because in third world nations wealth is concentrated among a wealthy elite while everybody else lives in poverty as slaves. This is the future you want for us too so fuck off. Elon musk is worth 700 billion and you’re talking about white nationalism take that that and shove it up your white ass
>>524161874National socialists weren't white nationalists btw. They were Germanic supremacists. Hitler's ideology involved actively killing tens of millions of whites he deemed inferior
Because you'd force people to separate from families. You want to force white people who are admixed to see their own families as evil invaders because they somehow "owe" other whites.
>>524174837It's not a human right to force me to separate from my family then force me to salute your flag.
>>524161874Simple: don’t shit where you eat. if your nation needs several trillion in tax revenue just to function for a year, a demographic change of such a magnitude would literally obliterate 2/3rds the spending power of that nation in mere months. I’m not taking a small amount of revenue, I’m talking the entire gdp of most European nations lost without means of replacement. where is that tax revenue going to come from? tariffs? alright, explain to me how the infrastructure of shipping works when a third of all dockworkers cease to exist. who is replacing them? are unions going to become a standard? will the social safety net be implemented once entire industries decline into decay because suddenly the market for them just vanished/was put to the sword? white nationalism sounds good and all you realize it requires a wholesale restructuring of our laws, constitution, economic system, etc, and even then, that’s to maintain fifty percent of operating capacity at best. like, we’re talking a century of reformation without environmental and societal influences encroaching what would need to be a perfect equilibrium of cultural homogeneity and economic bursts. for decades, if not a century or longer. it’s simply not feasible without breaking everything that keeps the lower middle class (I.e. the average voter) from spiraling into generational poverty. is a hundred million whites on welfare worth it for an aesthetic?
>>524178943Assuming they’d go to work tomorrow and do the same shit they did yesterday. You’re operating on a vague hypothesis crafted to play at people’s emotions, not their intellect. There is no magic bullet against working class messaging. The far right nationalists aren’t going to redistribute wealth, they already have it. If you’re pissed about race, there will never be an incentive to regulate. Why would there be, the rich white guy who owns a monopoly on whatever can just rob you blind until the sun goes down, and you’ll never think twice about him because there will always be an other to placate responsibility to.
>>524162104That isn't an argument though
>>524161874You aren't white. They'll lynch you next, swarthy
>>524161874It's abject failure on an empirical level.No moral abstractions needed.
>Lots of "UGH I don't even need to answer because it is, like, le bad, or something?" cop outs
>>524161874>What is the good-faith argument against white nationalism? White people don't want it, so white nationalism is literally going against the interests of white people.
