In times when Russian Empire is on it's peak they come and say:you do not understand. The tzar is bad. Just think of how many people he killed. How unfair his government and order is.Stop being a biggot and support Lenin - a guy sponsored by the west. It is time for you Russia to finally live in modern age and stop being backward mongols.a century passed. Same people come again:You do not understand. Bolsheviks and especially Lenin were bad. Just think of how many people he killed. How unfair his government and order was.You should hate him and be ashamed of him. it is time for you Russia to finally embrace the fair democratic order and embrace capitalism.some time passes. Same people come again.You do not understand. Putin is bad. Just think of...kek.
>>524166864Why do so many of your leaders kill metric fucktons of your own people? From Ivan the Terrible to Stalin the limpdick its the same story. Some psycho retard sadists kill their own people like a murderhobo party playing xp DND. What is the deal with that?
>>524167007the explanation is hidden in the pile of 6 000 000 dead jews.you people are not creative enough to invent something new so you repeat the same shit you already did countless times before.and you never ineterested in the truth only in your projections
The difference is we could actually visit russia in the 80s without fear.
>>524167119you have fallen so far into irrelevancy after you destroyed the soviet union
>>524167129>without fear.fear of what? well maintained infrastructure?you are too afraid that you won't desire to go back?
>>524167230look at my flag my mom did swim meets in murmansk and my aunt is an olympic gold medalist does that happen anymore
>>524167190truee.. kinda...not much time have passed since it was destroyed.. it is easy and fast to destroy but it is hard and slow to build.it is always like that.
>>524167119So your leader’s obsession with murder is our fault? How does that work? Which country created Ivan, or Peter? Who created Stalin? Is it all the same people, and if so, how are you all so stupid that it works over a 500 year period? Seems like the simpler explanation is that your leadership is more murderous than any other culture in the historical record. And that you should probably work on that issue as a people instead of trying to blame it on anyone but yourselves.
>>524167007It's ok to kill a lot of people if it improves the lives of others, why are cuckmocracy enjoyers so perturbed by this concept even when they routinely do it themselves? every scenario has winners and losers, stop trying to build utopia and just pick a team
>>524167320plus you kept americans and western euros in their place which saved the world for a while even though we weren’t in the su. people are way too complacent and passive for revolution but 11-12 percent voted for communism with the su right after the great war when we were 99% pure.
>>524167407>How does that work?basically you take out of context some number multiply it on your hate towards us and ignore everything that does not server your narrative.Let me give you an example:- STALIN KILLED 200000000000 OF YOUR PEOPLE HOW ON EATRH CAN YOU SUPPORT THAT- in reality he killed just a few and for a good reason and most of those numbers are imprisioned who got released soon after with one of very many mass mardons he did.Same with everyone one else. Ivan or Peter were on par with their time and better in every way than western leaders.this is why you do this. You are trying to make sure that we do not have any good leaders and celebrate the bad ones like yeltsin you whine about jews a lot on this board but you are by every metric way worse than they are.
>>524167569you are a product of neoliberalism. an abomination de los americanas.
>>524167638>mardonspardons - kek
>>524167320>not much time have passed since it was destroyed..not much time was needed for massive cultural shifts to shape a society that forgot about what it had and now worships consumerism and kikery, unfortunately
>>524167638Oh yes you people might need some context here..that building over there is a present from USA.It was built on USA taxpayer's money.It is a giant museum built by americans for yeltzin in 1991.
>>524167569I don’t remember a story about Washington throwing puppies at peasants, and the US makes Russia seem like the Congo in comparison. Do you often have to kill people to solve situations? Yes. There is a stark difference between killing people because you need to, and doing it because you enjoy it. An overwhelming number of Russian leaders are serial killers in positions of authority.
>>524167771your country kills it's presidents as a hobby.
it is a stupid thread.. I am kinda ashamed of it..what is the point of noticing the hypocrisy of your enemies towards you...
>>524167771>An overwhelming number of Russian leaders are serial killers in positions of authority.basically every US politician/(((leader))) starts a new war somewhere to kill off its own populationall politicians are the same
>>524167756on the bright side though..this means that not much time would be needed to reverse it.. just a generation or two.but that kind of shift will cause millions of deaths we will be blamed for later on.. it always does.
>>524167638No, I would love it if Russia could be proud of its leadership, but it's hard for you to do that when every single fucking one of them is a psychopath. That has to suck. I empathize with that issue. Stalin was a gangster loser who offed people for telling jokes. Lavrentiy Beria was a serial killer with government support. Ivan was 100% a sadist who enjoyed killing people, and was not similar to other leaders of the time period. Iavn was Tiberius level sadistic. Peter is a bad example, but he was pretty brutal, if forgivably so, perhaps. >You are trying to make sure that we do not have any good leaders and celebrate the bad ones like yeltsinYeltsin was a retard. I don’t want Russians celebrating a footnote retard who fucked up everything he touched. At the same time, I wonder why so many of your leaders are these prolific sadists. That is not normal, and I wonder how many of you question why large portions of your leadership throughout insane timelines are serial killers with badges of office. Seems like you think it is outside influence that is coloring them worse than they were, and you have to know that is coping. Even the unremarkable ones seemed to hold Russians with contempt. If you scape goat the issue it isn’t going to change. How did the Golden Horde fuck up this place so badly that you are celebrating psycho retards a generation after they terrorized your home?
>>524168235>this means that not much time would be needed to reverse it.. just a generation or two.the elites will cling to their wealth by any means necessary, knowing not only would they lose their power but also their lives for what they've done to their nations; i fear it has already grown too late, and each generation will grow up in this sick society assuming it's normal
>>524168022>all politicians are the sameMy point is that no, they are not. Russia's leadership is markedly worse than anywhere on the planet. Does American leadership start wars that get people killed? Sure. Ivan boiled people alive, impaled his wife's love, flayed people, etc. He earned his name. You have to be able to see the difference in the complicated mess of us acting on geopolitical issues that result in war, where US citizens end up dead, and the Massacre of Novgorod. Pretending they are even in the same universe is being dishonest.
>>524168280>Peter is a bad examplewhy is that?he used to show his torturers how to mutilate people properly and he kinda killed his own son.all of those leaders you dislike have something in common. They selflessly fought against impossible odds and won where nobody else would.causing a century of prosperity and stability.You can count all of those they killed or wronged but it is outshined by countless people they uplifted and created a future for.hard times cause hard choices and hard decisions.the price of their victory is that some time after some person with modern morals and lack of context point a finger on their mistakes or hard choices and blame them.It is a good deal.
>>524168388>will cling to their wealthsure let them. who cares.if that is what they need to rule properly lets make them wealthy.
>>524168280here is a good russian leader you can't say anything bad about.Catherine the great.Yes she killed her own husband to become an empress but she said sorry afterwards so it is ok.
>>524168660>>524168280Russian empire would still be a thing if Nicolass the 2 was not such a good guy.his family and he himself would not be killed and dissolved in acid if he was not such a good guy.and ironically this is what modern people blame him."for being weak".it is politics you can't swim in ocean of shit in white clothes and hope not to soil it.
>>524168558>>524168660>>524168837>why is that?Because Peter is probably the only example that I can understand the argument on why you consider him great. Was he Ivan level sadistic? If Ivan is a 10, I would put Peter at a 7.5. >You can count all of those they killed or wronged but it is outshined by countless people they uplifted and created a future forThis is a uniquely Russian perspective, and I believe a contributing factor to why this keeps happening. Russia excuses these atrocities as if they were necessary to the future of the Russian people. No, they weren’t. They were examples of psychos being psychos, and if you keep excusing it, you will get more psychos because you are rewarding them through time for behaving like psychos. There are countless examples of societies that have surpassed Russian accomplishment by orders of magnitude that didn’t have a laundry list of sadists to do so. And if your society and ethnic group are to survive throughout time, rewarding horrific behavior from your leadership class is a bad strategy.
>>524168837Stalin could be a good cheerful dude.but he would lose ww2.. and all of russians would be genocided. No communist China.. and god knows what more horrors.Peter the great could be a good cheerful guy.But he would lose to Karl the xii and Russia would always be an obscure backward coutnry.Ivan the third could be a cheerful guy.But there would be no Russia for peter to build upon. It would be overtaken by Poles. this is the reality.who cares if those people were good or bad.THEY ARE LEADERS not PERSONALITIES.they can be judged only by the results of their actions not the wibe the produce today.
>>524168558>>524169057This might cause a problem of who you are supposed to celebrate, and I understand that as an issue. Ignoring the issue will cause it to continue, and I am positive that if something doesn’t change on this front, you are going to be the cause of your own extinction.
>>524167638>this is why you do this. You are trying to make sure that we do not have any good leaders and celebrate the bad ones like yeltsinThe West has feared and hated Russia since at least the 1500s. Yes, the West smears Russia, pushes Russia around, and Russia must remain constantly suspicious and ready to fight an existential war as a result.This situation requires hard leaders for national survival.My guess is Russia grew so big, so fast that it scared the bejesus out of the West.
>>524169057it is easy to say that when your country is neatly tucked between two proxies of yours and protected by the ocean from all sides.Our country is in the middle of the world between asia and europe.Europe is the most sadistic the most violent place on earth that is obsessed with killing each other.those people pulled us through impossible shit.
>>524169139I see it differently.in order to build a society capable of expanding into the space and becoming a galactic empire you have to go through some tough lessons.we had them.you did not have them YET.it is a journey.and if we get extinct one day.. well we had an incredible ride and our history would fascinate humanity for eternity just like Romans do.we earned our place in history of our planet and our species. And that is enough for me.
>>524169158I always looked at it in therms of colonies.Our country is just too tasty looking as an africa 2.0.and we do not help that perspective by showing our weaknesses to outsiders..we practically beg - hey we are so incompetent and disorganized if only someone conquered us.. lmao.
anyway.. thank you frens - nice chat.a sad lonely bump
>>524168280>Yeltsin was a retard. I don’t want Russians celebrating a footnote retard who fucked up everything he touched. At the same time, I wonder why so many of your leaders are these prolific sadists. That is not normal, and I wonder how many of you question why large portions of your leadership throughout insane timelines are serial killers with badges of office. Seems like you think it is outside influence that is coloring them worse than they were, and you have to know that is coping. Even the unremarkable ones seemed to hold Russians with contempt. If you scape goat the issue it isn’t going to change. How did the Golden Horde fuck up this place so badly that you are celebrating psycho retards a generation after they terrorized your home?The Russias were founded by Rus Vikings who ruled over native Slavs they looked down upon, similar to how England was conquered and ruled by Norman Vikings who looked down on Anglo-Saxons -- and still do to this day, as to this day most noble English familiar are descended from Normans. Perhaps conquest and rule by a foreign elite for centuries, one which looks down upon the locals, creates conditions for very cruel rule of the people (the Normans were nasty to the Anglo-Saxons for centuries and the UK still has the most severe and meanspirited class system in the Western World). So even when native rulers come to power, like Slavs or, specifically, Russians in Russia, and Anglo-Saxon PMs in the UK, the pattern is already set whereby elites treat their people with malice. Russia went further than England on the elite-cruelty train, so there must be more to the story; perhaps the Mongol Invasions also played a role. The Mongols were some of the cruelest, most sadistic warmakers in history, oftentimes not even leading wars of conquest but campaigns of annihilation/extermination.
>>524166864You don't know your own country's history, how interesting.>Tzar was killed because he lost WW1>USSR was killed by self-destruction>Putin is disliked because he tries to conquer the west
>>524169221>Our country is in the middle of the world between asia and europe.Europe is the most sadistic the most violent place on earth that is obsessed with killing each other.100% agree. Your geography puts you up against the wall constantly. And you're right, we don’t have similar isssues so it's hard for us to give you crap when you're fucked by geography on multiple fronts. If you don’t expect more from your leadership, why would they behave better toward their own people? If you don’t hold them to a standard, they will revert to a lack of standard. If these were laundry lists of examples of you treating your enemies horribly, I would excuse them for this reason, but they are examples of your leadership treating their own people like animals. For hundreds of years. That has to change. Your people need to want that to change because if they don’t, it won’t change. Personally, my theory is that the Golden Horde affected your culture on a level that is seldom talked about. That your culture became accustomed to excusing horrific behavior from the leadership class if it meant you survived as a people. If you don’t address that issue, I don’t see how it ever changes. Leaders often have to make hard decisions in impossible scenarios. We should hold them to a standard to treat your own people with velvet gloves and your enemies with an iron fist. Not the other way around. I believe this cultural norm is causing an inversion of that standard in Russian leadership.
>>524169598100% agree with this. It is what I am trying to tell our russian anon. You put it perhaps better than I did.
>>524169059Yes, Russia has been fighting for its survival since its birth, and this may have something to do with why Russian culture selects for hard leaders, just like cartels select for the cruelest leaders because they need the nastiest men at the top just to survive.
Its is all those other people
>>524169598>Russias were founded by Rus VikingsThis retarded theory emerged during the tenure of the first non-original Romanov ruler who was of the Holstein-Gottorp denomination, it's first and foremost an ahistorical and geopolitical manifestation, even the primary evidence for the Normanist narrative is the "Legend of the Invitation", which is an ahistorical event and mythologized recollection of events tailored in the form of the Flight of Aeneas, and is, immediately, several pages later, refuted by one of the earliest and most direct genealogical information about the origin of the ruling house of Russia, where it states that they (the Russes/Rus) were originally Slavic, and one people with the other Slavs, whereas the Varangians were foreign bodies to both the Russes, and the other Slavs - this is further verified in the Germanic Sagas where they openly denote the Varangians as Germanic, but not the Rurikids, who are regarded as foreigners. Rurik himself was Wagrian instead, as the original theory of the Rurikids stated (Summary of Russian history - Sigismund Herberstein)
>>524169431You have a great future ahead if you can prevent conquest and dismantlement of your culture by the jealous West.Spengler analyzed how Russia has all the pieces in place to become the next great civilization to rise and stamp its mark on world history over the coming centuries as the old Western Civilization enters its senescence and dies in decadence.
Russians have a hysterical fantasy version of their history influenced by the reality of the genocidal 1940s german invasion. No the Teutonic Knights were not an existential threat. The battle of Peipus was frankly a minor skirmish involving a few thousand men at best. The 1812 invasion was not an existential threat. France fought everyone and everyone and the russians sending out silly ultimatums about moving troops around didn't help relations obviously. Pretending that scary europe is always trying to conquer innocent precious russia is a fucking joke. Why not admit that you give and you take, punches and bruises both.
>>524169431Yes, the US has had, by comparison with nearly all other countries in history, an easy ride so far.Our day of tribulation is yet to come, but it will come as we continue in decadence and eventually begin to fall apart in serious ways, even up to the breakup of the United States and a cycle of civil wars.
>>524166864>Tsar killed jews and undesirables>Bolsheviks killed whites>Putin kills whiteslook at the detail, cuh
>>524169589>brutally mogged out of the convoouch
>>524166864Do Russians belive in the theory that Lenin was a PsOp by the German Empire?
>>524169589Hey, good chat fren. >>524170268I missed that one. Dude responded a lot. Thanks for pointing it out.
>>524166864Freemasons love Lucifer and think God is an evil controlling being Freemason Albert Pike Said there will be tjhree world wars The First to demolish the Christian Russian empire This war was started by the Freemasons in Britain and Germany and dragged in Russia to abolish the Russian Orthodox Church to make way for atheistic communismThe next war was between the great powers and to sweep Jews towards Israel The third world war is supposed to be Zionists vs Muslims And they want both these ideologies o take each other out apparently Pike wrote this decades before WW1
>>524166864Now check (((who))) killed Stolypin and what Stolypin wanted to achieve.
>>524170040Okay, maybe the proto-Russias preexisted the Rus as native-ruled Slavic polities, similar to how Anglo-Saxon England was unified and ruled by Anglo-Saxon kings before the Norman invasion of 1066.But then the Rus Vikings did conquer those homegrown Slavic polities and imposed foreign rule upon them like the Normans did with England. And this hard domination by foreign elites who looked down on their subjects as inferior foreigners may have set in place the pattern, along with the Mongol rule a bit later, of harsh rulership over Russia's people by the country's elites.
>>524170351Only relevant thing to tak about Shills will ignore
>>524170175But Europe has wanted a piece of Russia for a very long time. Yes, Russia has punched back, but Russia's culture and history are shaped by the need to be always ready for a major, even an existential, war, one from either the West a la Europe or occasionally from Central Asia a la Steppe Nomads.
>>524166864Russia should establish an ethnic Slavic Orthodox monarchy and bring back tzars in style using NatLib economics Nationalist libertarians so the Slavs can live free while everyone else is a slave class taxed for the privilege of being in Russia.
>>524166864Grow the fuck up russkij durachek.Russia literally stopped using slaves as a labor in 1850s!!!!!!!!Then despite supposed state wealth of the aristocracy, there were 100 million peasants whose life never improved, yet they composed majority of labor and military.It was very natural that where huge inequality exists the power is simply taked via force.Nowadays we see the same with Putin, where some 10 million live in luxury and 120mio are poor. Go 20km from any large city and see how your eastern government acyually works.This gay love for putin is collective idiocracy of russian people.And OP especially probably is a russian melkij who never have been outsode his comfy apartment and has not met the reality of how shit and backwards the administration od ussr, russia and now his beloved dictatorahip is. Despite having fuckton of resourcea russia is becoming poorer. I wonder why.Fuck i have personally seen how they wholesale coal for 2€/ton and then it gois through some 7 resellers (all russian) just to end up in switzerland for 200€/ton. Naturally the region where it is extracted is poor as fuck, middlemen are all moscovites.
>>524166864Russians went from living in mud huts to going in space in the span of 40 years thanks to Lenin.
>>524166864Nicky II was a retard and he was funding the likes of Lenin himself aka the most shizo of the socialist parties all in order to make all social parties look bad. Him losing against Japan was a hard hit against Russia which created the 1905 revolution. Then the retard starting WWI because muuh Serbia but then lost nonstop on the battlefield until Nicky was advised to step down but the retarded provisional government wanted to continue the losing war while all Russians wanted at this point was an end to the war which was Lenin promising making him instantly getting the popular support.The rest is history. Compared to other empire Russia was indeed a poor shithole with a stupid slave population.
>>524169752>>524169598maybe it is my slavic mindset talking but stalin is a fake surname (real was gugashvili). It roughly translates as "men of steel (superman joke)" and is an allegory.he took people with all sorts of beliefs and ideas and forced them into one single entity. He forged a country out of scrap metal around.forging is a brutal process. You strike metal with a hammer and constantly heat it up to bend it to your will..if anything.. unless we have a stalin / putin / peter the great / ivan the formiddable like figure in future we will die out..you could use some stalin yourselves.. many could. but it is not your way.
>>524170329>Do Russians belive in the theory that Lenin was a PsOp by the German Empire?Lenin wasn't a "psyop" in some conspiratorial sense to inflict awful evil on Russia. Lenin was just a dyed in the wool Marxist with revolutionary ambitions that German intelligence knew well about.When America entered World War I, Germany knew millions of fresh troops would be arriving on the Western Front. So Germany decided it must knock Russia out of the war before American soldiers arrived enmasse in order for Germany to have a chance at still winning.So Germany sent Lenin and his entourage, in exile in Switzerland, to Russia -- gave them passage up to the Finland Station -- in the hope Lenin would take Russia out of the war by overthrowing the provisional government, which lost popular support quickly by pursuing the hated war. And it worked. Russia saw a Bolshevik Revolution and then withdrew. But Germany was still fucked as the Americans showed up in the millions in the West, and this is the real reason Germany surrendered -- not the stab in the back, but the realization Germany couldn't win mixed with growing social troubles at home due to hunger and suffering, which led the German high command and ruling class to conclude that what happened in Russia, a socialist revolution, could happen in Germany (and it did in 1919, but was quickly destroyed), so Germany's ruling class and especially Hindenburg decided losing the war was better than losing their elite status to socialists and that the war had to be ended to preserve the social system. So Lenin's safe passage to Russia was not some crazy conspiracy with twisted and bizarre motives. It was just a calculated move to end the Eastern Front so Germany could focus solely on the West as the Americans arrived. And while this strategy worked in ending the Eastern Front, Germany still lost because it was too worn out to confront millions of new troops in the West from the country with the biggest industrial capacity.
>>524170337I didn't see a mogging. He was very rational and polite.
>>524166864It doesn't happen because someone comes and say you Putin is bad, without Putin you will have a new iPhone every year for free. It happens because people live in insufferable conditions and are ready to do violence to get a normal life. It that point come people who take advantage of your desperation. That is how NATO tricked hohols into betraying Russia and then to refuse the peace deal and to go to the front line.
>>524170881Yes, but it's the same old story; the West was on the verge or destroying Russia pre-Putin, so, once again, a strongman was needed to preserve Russian sovereignty against foreign, again Western, countries that wanted to see Russia weak and dominated a a kind of neocolony. Putin saved Russian sovereignty, which is about the best that Russian leaders have ever been able to do given Russia's geopolitical situation of constant peril by hostile countries; plus, Russia has been really good at expanding its size despite all these foreign threats, and the two things are related since Russia grew in large part as a deliberate effort among foreign policy folks in the state to keep potentially hostile powers far, far away from Core Russia by putting so much land between Moscow and other countries whenever possible, like, recently in history, during the Warsaw Pact.
>>524171096I enjoyed myself. Seemed like a productive conversation to me. >>524171023Stalin is a weird figure. He is a psycho gangster, but I don’t think they would have survived WW2 under Trotsky. Trotsky would have lost the war. So on the one hand, you have this asshole, but he was probably the only person who could have held together under that big of a threat. Of the available options, he is the least horrible scenario, but it doesn’t make up for the absolute baffonery he got up to after the threat had passed. For example, the US and Russia were very close allies for most of US history. We wouldn’t have won our civil war without Russia threatening all of Europe to stay out of it. And I doubt that would have changed much even after the revolution. At the time, we hated the aristocracy way more than communism. I blame the entire Cold War era on Stalin. If he weren’t such a paranoid nutjob, the relationship between the US and Russia wouldn’t be what it is today.
>>524171023Yes, countries are forged in violence.Take Tokugawa Japan, established after a century of civil warring, or Anglo-Saxon England, unified after centuries of warring between the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms. Or Germany unified by warlike Prussia. Making a common identity out of separate tribes or ethnic groups, even very similar ones racially and culturally, takes violence.
>>524166864Oh sure thing, but the poor tsars, they had no idea how bad it was lmao.
>>524171058It was your industrial output and overall resources. Your soldiers were well known for being incompetent cowards and to the very end never saw much fighting at all.
>>524166864Lenin was right.
>>524167007Ivan "the Terrible" (the proper translation is "stern") killed less people than in one St. Bartholomew's day.
>>524171735The European thinking, and not entirely wrong, may have been dismissive of US troops in the early 1900s, but U troops really weren't just "incompetent cowards" as you put it. The US, half a century earlier, had fought a very severe and nasty civil war, which had the young USA respect among European powers for the country's ability to prosecute and persevere through such a war that killed off a pretty good percentage of its population, especially its young males. So US troops at the turn of the 20th century weren't on par with Europe's best -- the Brits, French, and Germans of course -- but weren't awful either, and in millions could have overrun Germany had Germany not surrendered before the lines broke.
>>524172674Overrunning stopped being useful since machine guns exist which again is a point of resources/industry. Even in WWII most people on all sides did not have automatic guns but 1 guy COULD Stop 100 people at once. Americans would have never accepted throwing themself in the grinder in meat waves like all the other powers did. It was not a life or death situation like Germany Russia and France had it.
>>524166864>When it comes to art, literature, and games, the "overrepresentation" of Russia is less about a government spending budget and more about the enduring power of a specific aesthetic and a massive historical head start in high culture.Yall faggots
>>524173091The US, with millions of troops, along with Britain and France with millions of troops, would indeed have overrun Germany had the war lasted into 1919. There are other ways to overrun a country besides charging machineguns. Tanks were already around and America could have manufactured over ten thousand of them in 1919 alone had the war lasted and the decision been made to use these weapons for a hard offensive. Or we could waited out the growing unrest on Germany's homefront as the German people began to starve, then German troops like the Russians may have begun to start deserting and returning home, in the face of internal breakdown of the country and millions of new soldiers shooting at them and launching never-ending artillery barrages.To think the US made little difference in the outcome of World War I is foolish. Yes, the US outproduced all of Europe combined in materiel, but materiel is useless without soldiers to use it. US soldiers would have used it in abundance to crush Germany had the war lasted longer. And Hindenburg and others in the high command knew this, hence the surrender: to prevent socialist revolution at home as the war turned from bad to worse and would have begin resembling Russian levels of defeat and casualties for Germany on the Western Front.Doomed countries tend to retreat into the delusion of willpower as the deciding factor and that the warrior spirit is what wins wars. The Plains Indians believed this before Wounded Knee, as did the Boxers in China, as did the South in the American Civil War, as did, frankly, the Third Reich which believed the Stab in the Back legend and emphasized the power of will in winning conflicts and ruling the world. But in the end, it's the country with more military hardware and soldiers that tends to win. Victory is primarily a function of economics, not martial bravery. If you want to win the war, build the greater industrial capacity for war machines. This is why China has the edge
>>524173780in any future conflict with America now, since America's manufacturing base is a shadow of its former self while China makes more than a third of everything made in the world today. And the US even imports things needed for us to make the few weapons we are still able to make, and imports these things from China primarily, like steel. If you just dislike America, Mr. Deutsch, then just wait a generation at the most, for China will mop the floor with us if we push for war with them.
>>524173771https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVXx7qF-boU
>>524167007Boring gay slop from pedophile liars
>>524167119but you always fell for this trickno wonder they called you retarded goyim
>>524167638You should continue blaming everyone else so your leaders can keep killing you.
>>524166864>The tzar is bad. Just think of how many people he killed.OY VEY JUST THINK OF THE 6 TRILLION JEWS IN RUSSIA
>>524166864>>524166864>>524166864PUTIN IS A SENILE KGB COLONEL TRYING TO SAVE RUSSIA IN THE 11TH HOUR OF ZIONISM ZION DON IS A SENILE HALF DEAD ISRAEL FUCK MY DAUGHTER KIND OF MAN ANON... IT'S OVER. THE GOYIM LOST.
>>524174113America will soon be torturing Americans who disagree with the government and its corporations. When empires die, they inflict the oppression once reserved for foreign conquered peoples on their own people, so that the former imperial elites can continue to get their power fix.https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/12/23/kitx-d23.htmlSee the torture methods used at CECOT. This is coming for Americans soon enough.America is and always has been an extremely violent country. So don't assume we won't become like Russia in terms of our abuses of our people.
NOW ONCE YOU ALL GO AND DIE IN UKRAINE THEN WE CAN REPLACE YOU WITH THE 'NEW RUSSIANS' INDIANS AFRICANS NEW CHEAP LABOR THE ELITES MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY AND PAY THE WORKERS EVEN LESS A DEGENERATE WORKER STATE LIKE THE USSR WAS ALL THE TINY HATS ARE HAPPY
>>524174232>>524174232>>524174232>> SIX >> GOOGLEPLEX >> WE'RE STILL COUNTING GOYMAN
>>524176309>>524176309>>524176309>> AMERICA IT'S BASICALLY THE USSR IT'LL COLLAPSE SPICS WILL GET SOUTH WEST WHITES WILL PROBABLY GET APPALACHIA & CASCADIA THE COASTLINES & MAJOR CITIES WILL BE NIGHTMARE TIER ZONES. OY VEY
>>524170476There is no evidence of Norse conquest or colonization of Eastern Europe, but merely evidence of trade and limited cohabitation (in Staraya Ladoga and the smallest district in Novgorod - the Varangian one). There are merely 3 runestones found all over Eastern Europe, compare that to the findings in Estonia, Britain, and Ireland - like night and day
PLAY JEWISH WARS WIN JEWISH PRIZES LOOK AT ZELENSKY. A JEW THE ZIONISTS HAD ON RUSSIAN TELEVISION. THE GOYIM FELL FOR IT ONCE AGAIN ANONS. THE SAD THING IS THE JEWS WASTED THEIR MANPOWER RUSSIA & AMERICA USED TO BE THE WORLD POLICE... YET CANNOT EVEN WIN AGAINST SANDNIGGERS IN AFGHANISTAN FIGHTING OVER OPIUM FIELDS THE SACKLER FAMILY
>>524176379>>524176379>>524176379WEST RUSSIA & THE BALTICS HAVE WHITE PEOPLE HALF OF RUSSIA & AMERICA ARE NON-WHITE THE BALKANS IS A SHITHOLE AS-WELL --- HITLER THOUGHT SIMILAR.
COLLAPSING RUSSIA, WEIMERICA, & E.U. WILL SAVE THE WHITE RACE. THESE STATES ARE CURRENTLY ATTEMPTING TO REPLACE WHITE POPULATIONS FOR A MORE DOCILE SUB-HUMAN MUD RACE. THAT IS EASIER FOR JEWS TO CONTROL. JEWS FEAR WHITE PEOPLE SINCE WE'RE THE ONLY RACE WHO CAN STAND UP AGAINST THEM & OUT-PERFORM EVERYONE ELSE EVEN WITH ONE HAND TIED BEHIND OUR BACK.
LENIN WAS A JEW [Part Kike] STALIN & THE OTHER COMMUNISTS HAD FAKE NAMES, VERY JEWISH THE LEADING COMMISSARS AND BOLSHEVIKS WERE KIKES.
>>524176339IT'S ANUDDA SHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>524166864ivan,russian empire was in bad shape in 1917. it was outdated. then there was a massive chimpout with the civil war. soviet union was also not ideal. it did become strong in the end but not enough to compete with the west. now new russian empire is strong again, putin has a tight grip on power, but he is getting older. who knows what will come next, it will definitely be wild and crazy though
>>524167769i've been to that museumit wasn't built in 1991and it wasn't even funded by americansit's a great museumit paints yeltsin as flawed but a good manwhich...he washe was bad for russia and the us played him
>>524168280So are Western leaders at the time of industrialization. By every single Metric, Stalin industrialized far more humanely than pretty much every Western Government.Conditions were so bad over Western industrialization average heights dropped 6cm while they grew 10cm under Stalin. Life expectancy also dropped in the West, while doubled under Stalin.Also I find it hard to believe Stalin offed people for telling jokes and other such stories, the purges are massively exaggerated and came in a time of very real assassinations of Government figures, mass terrorism, party factionalism, German and Polish infiltration and industrial/infrastructure sabotage and widespread corruption.I don't agree with the purges, but context for the time matters. The USSR was basically facing the Irish troubles x10000 with a bunch of assmad traitor trotskytards and others who had infiltrated the party and did everything possible to kill and wreck other groups in the party. https://otheraspect.wordpress.com/2020/02/20/trotskys-support-for-fascism/
>>524166864>You do not understand. Bolsheviks and especially Lenin were bad.yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TK9c-caEcwYou seem like a rare decent Russiam don;t let putin kill you and do no harm to Ukraine or Europe, your enemy was always in the kremlin in the form of the kgb/fsb/nkvd.
>>524167320Did you lose the technology
Russians have always been a population of slaves. They fear freedom and want to be ruled by a "strong" leader.
>>524167007>Why do so many of your leaders kill metric fucktons of your own people?Because their leaders are russophobic nazis.
>>524166864oh boy another babby monarchist thinks nikky 2 was peak ruler
>>524166864One of the very first laws the Bolsheviks put in place once they came to power is imprisoning people for antisemitism. What did they mean by this?
>>524167997use it as reminderthey hate us and always hatedthey see us as niggers with "their" resources and unused capitalthey keep electing people who antieurasian because anglosaxons firstthey failed to africanize us countless times before and envy mongols who succeed in doing itbtw because of history our ties is stronger than evermeanwhile their ties with blacks is weak as fuckand they have AIPAC as second government and Brussels as "communist party of Europe"losers lose, calm sown and keep up
>>524171536Misuss Badly, you literally live in a Jewhole so don't try to tell others that their leaders are psychos.They literally poison you.
>>524167119While you are correct that we are zionist lapdogs, so too did your Tzarist Russia fall by their hands. Now we find ourselves again pitted against one another in the gladiatorial arena instead of attacking our masters. Do you truly care about the truth enough to do something about it? Putin's touched the wall as much as Trump has. Our countries should have been brothers on the world stage, but we've done nothing but stab each other in the back for a century. We would have been better off if we had just respected each other at a distance, and we would be foolish to trust ourselves much less each other- but the true enemy is the man who sends us out to shoot each other.
From my understanding you are just the usual boogeyman for western and Central Europe. You are also super useful idiots for your leaders (not that we are better). In the end globalists will win, no matter the outcome
>>524169431your not going to be a galactic empire, Ivan. you're future is a lowly gas station of China that is only useful as long as it is weak. Maybe in 30 years China will have fully electrified and then they'll give you the bullet. Whatever lessons you may think you've learned, they were the wrong ones.
>>524174010Fuckin pot callin the kettle black. T. Kettle
