Can anyone actually give me a solid definition of what "Fascism" is, and also define why it's a bad thing for people?
>>524170986Authoritarian capitalism
Fascism is the most savage and ruthless dictatorship of finance capital. Read Dimitrov.
>>524170986China is a good example. Bet nobody had that on their bingo card 30 years ago.
>>524170986
^ those are goodit's (as Benito said) the merger of state and corporate power>why it's badCentralization of power at the top echelon (tiny percentage of elite) of the society and populace. No plural input and uses economic, financial coercion to command the populace and have them forcibly submit to a rigged framework.
>>524171175>China is a good exampleIt is now. They are closest to a fascistic structure because the 'political' controlling top section of the government, the CCP, larps as the "communist" legacy of Mao while the entire economy is a corporatist fascistic enforced structure with limited options as to finance capital, how it is to be used/deployed
>>524171175I'd love for somebody to explain how a single thing he said is wrong. That won't happen, though.
All communists deserve death.
>>524171331The answer is not replacing bad illegal masters with far worse legal masters.All communists deserve death.
>>524170986>Can anyone actually give me a solid definition of what "Fascism" isa made up word used by communists (unless it's used in a historical context)>and also define why it's a bad thing for people?because if you hear it, it means a communist may be nearby
>>524171036FPBP. Best two word description I've heard on it. >>524170986It's a bad thing because without expansionism, it must fail and the world has limited resources. That's a problem with many systems though. Also, if you come up with fascism, they'll probably do you like they did Mussolini.
>>524171228>>524171327>chicom "we no communist we nazi now!!!!!" schizololwhat next? we wuz italians or italians wuz chinese?>>524171424>>524171380correct. there is no excuse for choosing to base your life on lies. same with LGBT.
>>524171331>memeflag(idgaf 'wrong' or 'right') It is a totalitarian system, and society.
>>524171582>memeflag See post immediately below (You)rs, schizo brainlet.
>>524171525>It's a bad thing because without expansionism, it must fail and the world has limited resources.we are talking about people who can abstain from acting like animals, can live in harmony with nature, and can observe sustainable standards... obviously you are either a female or non-white, because that thought never crossed your mind and is probably biologically and spiritually impossible for you to conceive such a thing
>>524171589>>524171633fuck off back to china if you admire it so much
>>524171709And then what happens, Mr. Memeflaggot?
>Anonymous (ID: x7VgxmXH) memeflag 4 pbtid= schizo Bot>"admire"I abhor and despise totalitarianismthe other memeflag 'HitlersDick', likes it and said (of China) "but is it wrong doe"
>>524171860>zero reading comprehensionyou are obviously a drugged out human waste
>>524171951who are you talking to>schizo botso that's what they call you?
>>524172056>Anonymous (ID: x7VgxmXH) memeflag 6 pbtid Schizo BotNo it's what we call (You),Schizo Bot.
>>524171999>live in harmonyAnd then what happens, Mr. Memeflaggot? Do you not know what's happened to every harmonically balanced system ever observed?
>>524170986>fascismwhen the ruling class decides they aren't making enough money, so they break unions, start wars, and arrest anyone who tries to stop them>why it's a bad thingwars suck to live through, and the people they throw in prison are often the only ones looking out to make sure the average person can have a decent life
>>524171212>Said the socialist who was so extreme the other socialists told him to fuck off.and then he went to make his own socialism but not with blackjack and hookers, or actual blacks.
>>524170986It's the communist boogeyman. Fascism is whatever they dont like.
>>524170986Since your unwilling to find the easily accessible answer in thousand of books..I am unwillingly to waste time answer a question that's already been answered a thousand times. I am willing to throw it into AI for you and ask if to explain it like I'm a illiterate 5 yr old.This is written for a child so you can understand.
>>524172295As a example.Ram prices.Travel.Food prices (luxury food)And the gamblificarion and suvscriptication of your everyday life.These would be examples of things you may have recently lost access to or have had the quality lowered, austerity.
>>524172171first live in harmony>Do you not know what's happened to every harmonically balanced system ever observed?there you go again, acting like a disease or (in the best case) an animal, instead of like a human...
You are slowly being priced out of a economy you weren't even part of to begin with.Fascism is insidious cause it appeals to your emotions and not your brain. You are willing to reduce your quality of life and make your children have a worse future in the servitude of a false strong man.The biggest problem with fascism tho, is if you ever get a noble or decent leader, the state dies with him. You die with him.
As far as i can tell it just means a government directly controlled by its military, and this government has total authority to tell what its citizens and businesses that reside in the nation what they can and cant do, add in a dash of nationalism and there you go, right?
>>524172295But isn't that a monarchy though
>>524172295why is it implied that the king is "mean" and the other bullshitis this the kind of brainwashing that results in faggots?
>>524172528no pickle pick, that's just authoritarianism or a military junta. fascism has support by the people for racial reasons and not some kind of football soccer kind of shit.
>>524172721didnt Mussolini explicitly say that there was no racial element to fascism though
>>524170986Fascism is a Nationalist revolution that seeks class cooperation for higher goals.Its goal is class cooperation. It understands society as a whole as one organism. The individuals of that society are like the cells of the body. It needs to be good for everyone. It has historically been led by an ideological vanguard who use popular support to consolidate power in the state and subordinate the bourgeoisie and the capitalist class to the needs of the state/nation. It becomes essentially religious as fascism is more an all encompassing philosophy of action and of life more than a mere political philosophy. The state, the nation the people become the holy trinity and its goals such as a Nietzschean self-over-becoming like reversing the humiliation of Versailles for Germany, becomes its holy crusade. It subordinates the individual and business activity to the needs of the state. Fascism led by the ideological vanguard uses the total power of the state to mediate between worker and owner/manager in business. In this capacity it is corporatist.Fascism is NOT authoritarian capitalism because the capitalist class is no longer in power and they are no longer free to ruthlessly pursue financial profit. Fascist governments often instituted price controls, lots of government oversight and regulation of the market, directing, production, some central planning from the government, strong worker protections and excellent worker conditions. Modern America is corporatist in the sense that there is a merger of state and finance because finance and industry have simply bought the government. Fascism is when idealistic vanguard seizes and consolidates power within the state to subordinate finance and industry to the needs of the people. It takes an active role in cultivating and uplifting its people. Modern America is happy to undermine the people and treats the people as merely financial slaves to be exploited.
>>524172585It isn't.>>524172516The problem is without systems set in place after a good one dies. It is usually filled with a terrible leader.Your relying altruist nature of a singular person for the quality of your existence and most likely part of your children's.>>524172581No. Monarchy's are different and often do have traditional systems set in place for the death of the leader, along with most monarchies today being only figure heads of tradition.Even during the time period I assume you think of the monarchs requested permission from the church to do things.
>>524172585Basically your a socialist rely on the kindness of a singular rather than a society.Which is a lot gayer than socialism because you can name your boyfriend.Fag.
Side note: Communism as practiced in Russia especially after Stalin took power, and in China, are not dissimilar from fascism in many of these regards. They are more openly engaging in class warfare in the beginning though post revolution and consolidation they certainly integrate their business oligarchs particularly in the case of China as well as educated people from higher classes. The goal of communism and furthering the state/nations goals are its ideological crusade and it commands people to action in service of this higher goal. It is also much more on the economic side physically taking from the previous owner class and collectivizing the means of production where Fascism more often merely subordinates them when possible. However, fascism often did seize assets from oligarchs who weren’t getting with the program.
>>524172871>>524172838I have serious doubts you are older than 11-12, probably sexually abused at that
>>524170986Because people needs to pretend they care about niggers and homos feelings
>>524172930I was literally about to use the fall of the USSR as a example of fascism and not having systems in place, but I didn't feel like arguing against 80 years of coa (Israeli) propaganda.
>>524172930lol another "china nazi bro not commie" dipshit with its wall of text diarrhea
>>524172953Check your eckers sausage folder. You know I'm not.
>>524172953I'll expose you.Move on.
>>524170986Authoritarian, collectivist, nationalist state capitalism. The individual means nothing, collective interests are supreme.
>>524170986I think the most succinct way to describe fascism is the fasces itself. The symbol of lictors. The symbol of ancient Roman legal authority. An axe encompassed in a bundle of bound rods. Stronger together. It is authoritative collectivism and collective authority. It is the antithesis of liberal individualism.
>>524172953You know this is a perfect example. Israel is a fascist nation and what do they do?Child murder, steal our money and flood the Internet with garbage and proganda.Literally poisoning the well.Once Bibi dies, he has pushed so many authoritarian fascistic ideas that there is a very real possibility of Israel collapsing, or being conquered, because 1 man spent his entire life throwing teenagers at kids and once he stopped the pressure, it blew up.October 7th is the kind of situations that fascists bring to their country. Well deserved too. I can't wait for the next one.
>>524170986> a solid definition of what "Fascism"A merger between corporations and the state.> define why it's a bad thing for peopleBecause they lost and they lost badly, in a humiliating way. Mussolini ended up being a complete weak clown and fascist Italy was the weakest of the players in WW2.
>>524173105Fascism is great man theory put into politics.God I miss when politics was niche and all your larping faggots wernt around.
https://www.historicly.net/p/the-economy-of-evil this might be worth reading, it really is about rich people securing resources and guaranteed profits
>>524172982You should do more reading of what I wrote and understanding instead of talking. I never said China isn’t communist. It is communist. I’m merely drawing the same conclusion many people from all political backgrounds have noticed for a century now that there are some similar currents among fascist and communist societies. Instead of freaking out like a libtard you should just say baZed
>>524170986Socialism for chuds
>>524173281That’s actually pretty good
>>524171036fpbpit's the other side of the liberal coin, when they stop pretending to care about liberal values like human rights and democracy in order the preserve and advance the interests of the capitalist classthat is why the liberal will ALWAYS ally himself with the fascist in order to attack the socialist, because they both put billionaires over anything elsehttps://streamable.com/nc70dg
>>524172501>Offers nothing but personal attacks. Neat. I'm going to sleep now.
The only reason it's truly bad is because of rigid economic policy. Free commerce has proven to be the most effective commerce. But the hypernationalist and authoritarian concentration of power into the highest and most accomplished classes of the nation, shutting power away from foreign influences, is actually a good thing. In fact it is vital.The real reason the Jews tell us fascism is bad is because of this: they can't infiltrate it. It's not about economic policy at all, nobody in Leftist leadership actually gives a shit about gentile proletarians.Take vote that all criticism of fascism comes from Jews like Franz Neumann and kabbalist Jew-worshippers like Umberto Eco. Antifascism is anti-gentile oppression.
>>524173673Cenk is a true Young Turk. After all, the Young Turks were really cryptojews.
>entire thread>not a single worthwhile post that knows what it’s talking aboutMight as well be a fagbook boomer comment section.
>>524170986>Can anyone actually give me a solid definition of what "Fascism" is, and also define why it's a bad thing for peopleIt was the revolutionary right in the most simple of terms.It existed in Europe at a particular time. Anything they call fascism today is something new or mislabeled.
>>524171228By that definition every modern nation is fascists. Corpos owen the politicians.
>>524170986apes together strongit's bad because it's a leftist ideology
