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chucky ar la, baker
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extreme happening Terry bake, the fight for kupyansk is intense, many bridges are being bombed, rapid advoooncer pararatrooper elements are advooncering
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death to white americans
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Reminder that the dates of Christian holidays in the Ukraine are mandated by a rat-faced kike.
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comfy
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>>524172569
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>>524172534
so mean, just call me shahib again like the old days
>you know you want those days back
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>>524172569
ill celebrate when all the hyhyls are dead
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new breadyiv, new ariralyiv
kyll hyhyl
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>>524172671
>more elf shit
then it's one of these wierdos that takes a hyhyl trench single handed and well fuck it do your elf shit whatever
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>>524172611
How much would (You) donate in this situation, /chug/?
I'd ask her "how much do you want?" and then give her that.
>up to everything I'm carrying, so like 100-200€
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>>524172928
tap my phone on ur head
>nothing
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>>524172225
I remember reading about these guys a year ago. Cool to see progress on that. Russia is also buying satellites from China as well.
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>>524172996
He should probably carry one of those ball torture field radios.
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>>524173070
we use the portable generators to torture prisoners, are u new?
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Z!
>talmud: denounced
>>524172220
Thanks for the bread, baker!
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now where the fuck are azog' forward observers?
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putin bad
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>>524173260
https://youtu.be/lywZZ2ZzWCw
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>>524172534
>white americans
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>>524168742
Why are all the nordic/scandi countries such feminized embarrassments these days? Did their water supply get contaminated in the 1950's or something? Women's suffrage has been a disaster for modern civilization but it hasn't hit harder anywhere than northern yurop.
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>>524173304
name one good person
https://youtu.be/cmwLq_MVzXw
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>>524173148
>>524173070
Just like in my animes!
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>>524173455
keeps the drones flying
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>"The dates of holidays in Ukraine will be changed. There are bad coincidences; some dates came from the Soviet Union. True Christmas has been returned to the 25th, and the same should be done with other dates" - Zelensky.
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>>524173538
lol. How very western of them.
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>>524173415
They realized they will be forever irrelevant on the world stage. So they decided to be a "humanitarian superpower" which just means being a virtue signaling prostitute for zog
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>>524171466
Haven't seen the gurjati either, but i've been coming to /pol/ less because the board is actually dead when it comes to geopolitical happenings; not a single thread about what happened in syria or the cambodia/thailand war.
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>>524172534
Fuck you
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>>524172928
0. I fucking hate child beggar mafia
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>Russian Kurier remote controlled ground vehicles used to create a river crossing
Look at them go!
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I need sex with oppai lolis!
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How is my favorite dead general doing?
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>>524174075
ballin and bombing
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>>524173950
>a fucking toytruck
War... war has changed...
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What's the reason behind RUS fuck up in Kupyansk?
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>>524174098
I was talking about the bombed dead general you stupid gullible zigger kek.
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Also,
Possible happening in Syria - SDF vs HTS. So far in Aleppo, but don't get yout hopes up for anything major.
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>>524173950
>Look at them go!
Ngl.. that is pretty cute.
Up to the moment where it pushes a 15kg AT mine down your trench.
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>>524174156
There's 20 more to take his place.
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>>524173437
>name one good person

Mel Gibson
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>>524174203
Will they travel back in past and get exp from the chechen and syrian wars?
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>>524174156
cry me a river proebalt
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>>524173381
Hyperborean stare
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>>524174257
Given that Russia gives out general ranks like candy there's a good chance they already were present during those wars ergo there's still 20 more to take his place.
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>>524174418
nah putin will just ressurect him, he is a professional necromancer in the end of the day
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>>524173538
Soviets gave Ukrainians a state this is how they repay kindness
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>>524174286
2nd army in the world why are you riding horses to combat kek zigger?
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>>524174115
Ukraine sent reinforcements there but to the detriment of the rest of the front. If they reinforce one place they have to pull from several other places. The man power shortages are pretty evident now.
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>>524174492
Didn't this happen behind the frontline though? or am I wrong?
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>524174492
They're copying the 1st army in the world (afghanistan)
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>>524174181
SDF are cucks nothing will happen
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>>524174492
damn if it's so bad you should join the hohols, getting rid you uppity proebalts would be somewhat nice if we made ukraine lose 22 million people, how much can we do with others
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>>524174523
The frontline is not a line anymore with drones.
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>>524174181
>Syria
It's just a FFA country like Lybia and Iraq
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>>524174492
Grim
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>>524174187
Bro I haven't seen this pic in like...10 years or so
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>>524174570
>22 gorrilion.
Lmao out of curiosity how many of you subhumans do you think died in the best purge ever - the ww2?
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>>524173437
Ted Kaczynski
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>>524174559
That's a Raytheon Quadrupedal All-Terrain Mobility System worth $40M each, chud
Puccians could never dream of owning something so sophisticated
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>>524174477
>the goyim treating me like a human
>why is that, what's their profit
>oh i know they wanna deceive me, they are plotting against me!
>i must kill the goyim first!
typical zhid behavior
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>>524174618
lmao, says a proebalt nigger who's asses were almost killed off and who only live of the EU funds, leeches
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I can't get over the retardation of the Trump class...

It weights 3-4x as much as the Arleigh Burke.
Has <30% as many VLS cells.
Only 12 are for hypersonics (it is still in development) + railgun (doesn't exist).

Did they learn nothing from the Zumwalt?
A ship that size could easily fit 16 hypersonic VLS tubes midship (at least leave the space for it) and then have some 3x48 mk41 VLS tubes elsewhere for a total of 146 classic VLS, that can handle quad packed SAM) + purely offensive XL missiles in the mk70 formfactor.

But downsizing the armament to something found on a German frigatte +2 fantasy weapons is just pure tardation.

Did they learn nothing about endurance in Yemen and Israel?
Arleigh Burke is well equipped, from there they can either go even bigger with more missiles and longer endurance, or smaller with higher VLS density.

Why is every new project such a complete failure?
Zumwalt
Constellation
LCS

Why can't the second greatest navy design or build ships?
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>>524174676
Fuck. Another total victory by the GDP
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>>524174614
>Bro I haven't seen this pic in like...10 years or so
I remember you and pirate anon from sg
Or maybe there were more using the same flag as you (gadhaffis mistress does as well)
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>>524174726
>Did they learn nothing from the Zumwalt?
>Did they learn nothing about endurance in Yemen and Israel?
>Why is every new project such a complete failure?
>Why can't the second greatest navy design or build ships?
The goal is not to make good ships but to earn tons of money making them. Which part of GDP do you not understand?
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>>524174726
also every ship the US is currently building is at least one year behind schedule, this thing doesn't even have engineering designs, and should be ready in two years (his term). All the while the navy themselves had announced a shift in focus to unmanned systems.
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>>524174676
>Raytheon Quadrupedal All-Terrain Mobility System
It's actually unironically called MUTT, Multiple Utility Tactical Transport
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>Dec 22 (Reuters) - Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Monday that negotiations conducted with the United States and European nations aimed at ending the nearly four-year war with Russia were "very close to a real result."
Why do they believe that "talks" that don't include Russia are going to produce results?
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>>524174577
Thats what I meant, I saw NAFOids claiming Russians are actually attacking trenches using Horses
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>>524174901
Because they are absolute narcissistic fucks and are outright insane.
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>>524174901
My simping for Brittany is very close to a real result
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Is there nothing that can be done about Putins cynical use of Christmas?
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>>524174901
he's starting to realize it's ovyir for him, now all that matters is to steal as much of that €90 billion (€50 billion minus the G7 loan that needs to be paid off) and exit stage left.
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In Finland, they believe that Russian wolves are somehow to blame.

Residents of Finland accuse Russia of the death of reindeer in their territory. Local residents believe that the wolves, which cross the Russian-Finnish border, are to blame for everything.

The Finnish Reindeer Herders' Association, which keeps a constant record, reports that this year alone, wolves killed about 1,950 reindeer - almost 70% more than last year, - said Finnish reindeer herder Juha Kujala.
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>>524175026
The jew Zelensky moved it to 25 December for all Orthodox in the Ukraine, just like that.
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>>524174726
>>524174815
>>524174852
It's not a bad idea to build a big ship if we aren't going to pumping out a lot of smaller ships and give up having larger Navy than the PLAN. Not to defend our procurement strategy or the Trump cruiser itself but larger ships ARE the trend. Type 055 is already a larger ship than the Burke and the Type 052DL is already stretched to its limit. Rumors say China is building a cruiser in the near future. But it's going for a totally opposite direction than what the USN is aiming for. It'll be focused on fleet air defense, capable of mid course ABM with large X-bad and radars. It'll probably be nuclear powered as well. Or a ship this size needs to be if it wants 2x 300kW lasers.
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Stefanchuk on elections:
>The elections require resolution of a number of issues. These include: voting for soldiers stationed at the front, the voting rights of millions of Ukrainians currently abroad, the voting rights of citizens (in Russia), and the presence of foreign observers to ensure democratic and secure elections.
Putin said he was willing to stop missiles for election day, something Donbass didn't have when they voted to join Russia, if the Ukraine would allow Ukrainians in Russia to vote and be counted.
Seems the EU picked up on this and are going to stuff the ballot with fake refugee votes which Russia can't check.
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>jeets are already sharing tools to bypass the captcha
Is zover...
>>524175073
Speciální
Vlčí
Operace
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russia is not a serious country. why can't cucktin protect his top military brass, his tankers, ships, submarines etc? why are there functional bridges in the oinkraine? why is every single top official from the oink military/gov structures still breathing?
>just 2 more angry zaharova statements and anglokikes will stop terror droning our civilians
https://tass.com/politics/2063445
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>>524174815
>The goal is not to make good ships but to earn tons of money making them. Which part of GDP do you not understand?
Lol.
I get it.
But as I see it the larger ships is a fit for the Ticonderoga.
That one is the same weight class as modern Arleigh Burkes but has something like 122 VLS cells + harpoon launchers etc.
If you make something three times the weight class, at least don't make it pathetic in comparison.
You can still add a space laser for the sake of GDP.

>>524174852
>also every ship the US is currently building is at least one year behind schedule, this thing doesn't even have engineering designs, and should be ready in two years (his term). All the while the navy themselves had announced a shift in focus to unmanned systems
Yeah, it's beyond retarded and delusional.

So target weight ~30-40k ton, number of VLS 30.
Ticonderoga, weight 9.7k tons, vls over 120.
Arleight Burke III, weight 9.7 k tons, VLS 96.

For the love of God, just build more Arleigh Burkes.
If they must have hypersonics, just throw the mk70 containers in the back.

It's quite funny when comparing to something like the Visby class (600 ton).
That little stealth turd of a boat has 8 RBS15 and 36 SAMs in 9 VLS launchers (plus torpedoes, helicopter etc)
It shouldn't be comparable to a battle cruiser in the 30-40k ton class.
But that little boat has the equivalent of 9+8 mk41 tubes, more than half of the Trump class.

>>524175194
>Type 055 is already a larger ship than the Burke
True, not by much though. (11 kt vs 9.7)
But it also packs 136 VLS cells.

You see my point?
The 052A has 32 while weighing 3.7k ton (more than the 10x heavier Trump class).

The Kirov class, weighing 28kton has 208 VLS cells + 20 heavy anti ship missiles.

I have no real problem with larger ships, but they have to be armed enough for the size to make sense.
At least if they are cruisers and not giant landing ships.
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>>524175273
It's a trap. Russia has like 10mln hohols, if the votes are to be counted in, ukraine is vastly pro-russia. The jews in charge will never go for this. They will just keep throwing hohols into the hot oven until there is no more and then charge up to Israel or London to have a nice day.
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>>524175507
100%
>>524175550
good morning bee fren
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Ukrainian PM - More than 600 drones fired at targets mostly against the energy sector in the west of the country.
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The fate of russmutts
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>>524172220
Morning anon. Reporting gains.
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>>524175879
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kill all white people
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>>524173437
Joseph Stalin
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How come Putin has killed or jailed every single russmutt folk hero from this special ed operation? How's our old friend Girkin doing again? Or Motorola? Givi? Prigo? Or this fat mutt retard who got raped to death by russmutts?
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Good morning frenZ! I will crack nuts for Christmas bejgli. I wonder what hruks doing now in their cold, dark, inhuman, bloodthirsty jewish dystopia...

>>524175550
Z!
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Yet another Zutty Türd just seething.
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What's his fucking problem?
Why is he such an asshole??

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/putin-smiles-when-your-wifi-fails-hes-waging-a-war-of-irritation-b35tdh59h
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>>524176115
>Ukrenegro
And here's the real result>>524174985
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Odessa port also targeted.
>Russian forces struck Ukraine’s Black Sea port of Odesa late on Monday and damaged port facilities and a ship, the regional governor said, in the second attack on the region in less than 24 hours. Oleh Kiper said on Telegram that emergency crews were tackling the aftermath of the latest attack and that no casualties had been reported but provided no further details. An earlier overnight attack hit port and energy infrastructure in the Odesa region, causing a fire at a major port and disrupting electricity supplies to tens of thousands of people. “Russia is attempting to disrupt maritime logistics by launching systematic attacks on port and energy infrastructure,” deputy prime minister Oleksiy Kuleba said on Telegram.
The Russians have decided to make the Black Sea a very difficult transport option for the Ukrainians after their attacks on Russian bound commercial vessels
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>>524176158
It's not opposite day, Anon. He asked for a good person.
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>>524173437
me
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>>524176296
what a strange and cringe country
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>>524175378
Still accomplished more than ARBiH
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>>524176296
>хoхлы
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>>524176115
>>524175879
Don't need to generate GDP when you are importing GDP from West
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I miss my grandfathers rant about why Americans deaerve to be genocided.
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Russia mercilessly heating Odessa with free Geran strikes. The locals enjoying the nice bonfires.
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>>524176296
I love the Ukrainian arts
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>>524175026
>monkey is now weaponizing public holidays
Is nothing safe from Russia's evil?
>>524174726
You're getting b8'd by orange monkey again. This announcement is worth as much as his talks about making Canada or Greenland into an American territory.

>Why is every new project such a complete failure?
My personal guess is that USN is undergoing an identity crisis. There's nothing sexy about naval hulls of various displacements packed with VLS cells.
There's nothing cool about developing the tech to reload VLS cells underway.

But railguns? Weird trimaran hull shapes?
Fuck yeah! That shit slaps! Let's do more!!!
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>>524175504
You didn't take into account how fat Americans are. But yeah I know. It shouldn't be more than 20k Tons. Project Lider class Cruiser was 200 VLS for 19k tons. You save more VLS room if you get rid of the guns. Removing 2 of those guns or even all 3 should add you at least another 32-48 cells. So you're at 172-188 but you have 12 being CPS cells as well.
Anyways it's not ever going to get built since we can't even build a Frigate.
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>>524176492
Italy?
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Nigger
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>>524176469
Needs more work,Russians actually cucked so hard by not bombing the port for three fucking years
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>>524176200
Hello, how have you been?
>>524175550
Bee!
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>>524173950
are these on aliexpress yet?
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>>524176536
You probably want SOME gun on deck to target small boats/suicide drones. I'd feel naked without a gun. There's a reason Russia sticks a DShK on pretty much every armor piece they have.

Also, how is missile interception being factored in these VLS counts? What I mean is: you need interceptors for enemy missiles just as much as you need attack missiles (if not more).
Unless the American plan would be to always have air cover from carrier fighters?
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Hruks using high energy lasers, attempting to blind the remote controlled version of Gerans with cameras.

>>524176582
Lately Odessa is targeted twice per day.

>>524176643
Excellent, finally I am on vacation.
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>>524173538
Kek, he continues to shit on cucktin
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>>524174726
>>524175194
with drones and anti-ship missiles they should be going for the smallest ships that can still transit the oceans.
What's the point of a massive ship when 1 missile takes it out? Build a thousand and they can each carry standard armament:
>1-2 air drones, maybe a torpedo drone
>various types of missiles
>50 cal MG for random pirates / close engagements
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>>524176756
Anudda yuge peremoga
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>>524176529
>But railguns? Weird trimaran hull shapes?
>Fuck yeah! That shit slaps! Let's do more!!!
I still want trimaran/catamaran carrier.
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>>524176492
They have very questionable taste for sure
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>>524173538
Well Ukraine will cease to exist so it really does not mater.
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>>524176713
I wish we could have that with sound
Sound of machinegun fire with tracers makes me cum.
>>524176768
Challenge of a "one size fits all" design is that it's hard to adapt if you e.g. want a missile with a bigger payload or a longer range which is likely to be bigger than what you're using now.
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>>524176553
chinky AI slop, see the foot and the blanket get fused for a moment at 0:25
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>>524176432
americans barely even know they are doing this because they're ruled by jews. The only lesson it'll teach them is "ow, why is russia/china punching me? I dindu nuffing!"
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>>524176895
Helping out with a fren in need...

https://files.catbox.moe/fywy7b.mp4
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>>524175754
>>524176200
>>524176643
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>>524176857
I have nothing against cool tech, but that should be your "Skunk Works" and not your attempted bread and butter.

I'm curious about your thoughts on the second part of my post here: >>524176677
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>>524174726
>Did they learn nothing from the Zumwalt?
Zumwalt would be obtainable without retarded speed requirements +-40 knots or something.
weight reqirements and because this lighter materials create whole shitshow with it.
>literally after warranty date it become wreck
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>>524176956
Just bee yourself!
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>>524174901
They do indirectly include Russia why do you think cucktin sends all those envoys?
Close to a real results means close to cucking even more. He can't keep this up for long, he's running out of bikes, donkeys and horses, they have to use bicycles now
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>>524176991
>Zumwalt would be obtainable
I dunno, g. I wouldn't want to sail in a ship that might roll in a high sea state because of its hull design...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zumwalt-class_destroyer#Tumblehome_design_stability

Like, after over a 100 years, I think there's a reason the design never caught on anywhere around the world.
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My country has gone insane
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>>524177042
which is why we've seen Ukie soldiers on bicycles this year getting blown up, interesting viewpoint
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>>524176713
>on vacation
Extra nice, I'll be working on christmas.
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>Two more U.S. volunteers — Ty Wingate Jones and Brian Leonel Zacherl — were killed in the war in Ukraine. They fought under the HUR’s leadership.

>Zacherl, 29, is survived by his wife and two children; Jones is survived by his pregnant wife.

>Since the start of the war in Ukraine, at least 92 U.S. citizens have been killed.

rest in piss
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>>524177114
Nothing ever happens?
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>>524177087
Zumwalt is pajeet tier design, also breaking down often
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>>524177136
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>BREAKTHROUGH
BREAKTHROUGH
>"I think that we've made progress, but sitting here today, I wouldn't say with confidence that we're going to get to a peaceful resolution," Vance said.
>"I think there's a good chance we will. I think there's a good chance we won't."
Some "breakthrough" huh?
>Vance described what he called a key shift in the negotiations, saying that the major points of disagreement are now being discussed openly rather than obscured.
>"The breakthrough that I do feel that we've made is that all of the issues are actually out in the open," he said, adding that earlier stages involved "a little bit of a game of obfuscation."
>Territorial concessions remain the central obstacle, Vance said, pointing specifically to Russia's demands in eastern Ukraine.
>"I think the Russians really want territorial control of the Donetsk," he said.
>"The Ukrainians understandably see that as a major security problem, even as they privately acknowledge that eventually, they'll probably lose Donetsk — but eventually could be 12 months from now, it could be longer than that."
Looks like the "free economic zone" and demilitarisation are not being discussed, the Ukrainians are holding out from ceding territory.
>"We're gonna try to get this thing solved. We're going to keep on trying to negotiate," he said.
I get the feeling that the Ukrainians want to see what they can do with the €90b, and the campaign against the Russian oil industry, and whatever wunderwaffe the west is sending their way in the new year. It's just like Istanbul all over again, there's plenty of voices in the west pushing them towards THD
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>>524177132
I really hope it is worth. 300% bonus or more.
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>>524177137
We've charlie kirk'd some poor khmer soldier
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>>524176102
>That siverks collapse.
Is retaking kupyansk worth it? If Russian pop the donbass cherry its fucking over.
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>>524177193
aren't khmers just a thing of the past?
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>>524177136
KWAB
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>>524174492
Ukrainians lost Kursk democratic republic to cavalry?
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Sheesh brutal
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>>524177221
Khmer/cambodian are spiritual ukrainian
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>>524177159
Not a fan of these kinds of gotchas. Reminds me too much of the "Russians are using wood screws on their stealth jets" peremoga.
If a ship comes back from a long deployment then it'll look like shit.
Looking parade-ready is for base queens.
>>524177165
Rest in Pepperoni, Chud
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>>524177295
maybe i personally dunno about that, let's just see how this plays out
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>>524176296
I am more and more convinced that "performance art" is a jewish psyops. Unless its actual dancing or theater its always some non-sense bizarro wiggling trying be deep but coming off as extremely shallow.
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>>524176895
This is where modularity would help though. Set up standard sized compartments and design the missiles to fit into those. Standardizing everything and producing these in volume would give you a small, deadly ship that could take out a carrier or play coast guard patrol boat and blow up drug runners.
I'd do something about this size or the size of the freedom class LCS; remove the helipad (unnecessary, vertical launch for drones), get rid of the cannon, maybe keep CIWS (expensive), cut costs and maximize drone & missile arsenal.
Price target: $100M / each
Crew size: < 30
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>>524177295
Who are the good guys and who's projected to win?
What are China and Vietnam saying?
Will this increase or decrease the price of yerro pushhy?
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>>524172220
the late king terry had no opinion on russia or its slave states.
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>>524177299
>If a ship comes back from a long deployment then it'll look like shit.
Have the Zumwalt ever done anything?
Last I read they have been undergoing cannon removal for the last 3 years for a missile that doesn't exist yet.
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>>524177379
Wrong, fuckface.
Why do you think he despised CIAniggers so much?
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>>524177358
Thai side hold ground and strategic point, we are waiting for cambodian meatwave phase. During this we will fly F16 to bomb whatever we like. China and vietnam give thought and prayer as usual.
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>>524177186
I get paid extra for public holidays and weekends, I prefer doing this.
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>>524177448
If Comrade Xi allows this then I'm 100% on board.
May the strongest SEA monkey win!
>>524177404
Not that I'm aware, but I don't claim to be an expert.
Note that you are not send on deployment only for combat missions. You are also sent for all kinds of things including sea trials and crew training.
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>>524175507
Crimeans should also get to vote in Ukraine elections, rr right, Crimea is Ukriane, r r right?
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Still mad at hohols for ruining STALKER >:(
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>>524177299
Towing back for repair is not exactly comes back from a long deployment. The engine breakdown in the Panama canal was frustrating, the Zumwalt was brand new. Or losing turbine blades. Or crashing your whole electric system. Or simply leaking oil and discovering sea water in your oil piping. No wonder the program was halted after 3 ship built from the planned 32.


>>524177450
Will you have some extra day off later?
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>>524177114
When are you getting drafted?
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>>524177519
Gamma is still cool and better than ever
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>>524176492
What the hell is this? Some sort of a weird art performance? Because if so, they had more success if they did it with their tits out.
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Shut up russians are the lowest form of the white man, and me calling them white is generous. They own more land in asia than Europe, they might as well be a bunch of slant eyes going "ling ling", or worse, jews.
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>>524177567
I have new years day off, will be able to celebrate then properly.
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>>524177574
When we decide to have TCD
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>>524177662
>t.
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>>524177404
>undergoing cannon removal for the last 3 years for a missile that doesn't exist yet
Tranny ships LMAO
>I'm cutting off my dick in the hopes of installing a hitherto technologically impossible pussy in the future
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>>524177683
Nice!
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>524177662
american public education in detroit knowledge of history and geography award
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>>524177694
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>>524177567
All real and true.
Also much better criticisms of the program than just
>lol it looks like shit
>>524177338
Has any complex weapons program (i.e. not small arms) featuring a module design ever succeeded on even most of its promises?
Because the only thing I can think of when I hear the word is the BOXER and what a disappointment it has been so far.

Personally, I think a mix of purpose-built hulls with a heavy focus of VLS is the ticket. Basically what China is doing right now. Plus take advantage of air/surface/underwater drones.
>helicopters
These serve an important sub hunting purpose because they offer both range,an extensive sensor suite, and the ability to drop radar buoys. I can't imagine anything but the heaviest of drones that could match this even in theory. For this reason I can't imagine getting rid of helos entirely in a fleet composition.
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>>524177694
Thailand is so big!
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>>524177114
Can you finish bombing them quickly?
I had to cancel my end of year plans because of this fight.
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>“We’re Europe’s weakest link when it comes to security, defence, and intelligence,” Tom Clonan, an Irish senator and retired army captain, told The Telegraph.

>Dublin possesses neither the modern sensors needed to spot threats nor the weaponry to stop them, he added, leaving the nation “completely and utterly defenceless, and I would say, provocatively weak.”

>In doomsday scenarios, submarines off the western coast launch missiles at Europe, or Putin lands paratroopers in County Clare. But the true threat, most analysts agree, concerns the network of undersea cables and gas pipelines in the waters around the island nation.

poor Ireland is so in danger
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>>524177519
You should also be mad at them for creating ukronegros
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>>524177773
I love nice ships btw.
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>>524177338
Trump asked for a cheap Shahed knock off and they came back with a 41m a drone proposal and you want a price tag of 100m?
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>>524177726
Just checked and latest news is demonstration planned by 2027.
While chinks have been practicing on moving target since 2021 at least.
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>>524173415
The Swedish viking empire was beaten so hard by Russia they decided it's better to just stay down.
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>>524177904
Dropping anchors on sea cables are much cheaper than organizing a paratrooper action imo. Maybe Ireland just wants free EU money for army development..
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>>524177890
always bet on nothing
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>>524177904
The biggest threat to the Irish state has always been rebel groups. LIke the rest of Europe the whole "rearmament" is just about suppressing any chimpouts.
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>>524178104
So cringe
I want to beat all of these EU girlbosses to death
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>tfw GDP in Ukraine just means Geran Drone Panic
>It grows on a daily basis
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>>524177694
brown ladyboys vs brown
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>>524177909
Keep posting my gf.
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>>524174492
Based
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>>524178145
>the picture that awakens your inner Kazakh
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>>524177904
They've been pushing this narrative hard in the Irish media lately. We're to join in on the big European military spending splurge.
It's almost as if they don't want critics of the current militarisation to be able to point to Ireland as a country that is safe and not gearing up for war against Russia.
No. The Russians are threatening our undersea cables, and sending drones to attack Zelensky while he is visiting Dublin
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>>524178230
LIBERATE IRELAND FROM AIZGGERS!!!!!!
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>>524173931
Are you that serb anon who draws?
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>Hohol Air Defence sharted down:

>▪587/635 drones;
>▪ 34/35 Kh-101/Iskander-K missiles;
>▪0/3 Kinzhal missiles.

>Hits recorded at 21 locations. Debris fell on 8 locations. 3 aeroballistic missiles failed to reach their targets.

very believable interceptions again... LOLOLOL
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>>524178134
>The biggest threat to the Irish state has always been rebel groups.
No. It's our government under direct influence from the jew infested British, American, and EU regimes
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>>524173931
what about the ukrainian art beggar mafia? the mafia whose codeword is "please draw me a marichka foxgirl"?
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>>Lelka-100 and Furia drones vs Shotgun drone
>https://files.catbox.moe/v3pvys.mp4
Are they just firing a shotgun shell almost point-blank into the wing/body of the enemy drone?
Kind of based, desu
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>>524178358
Yuzhnoye is still burning since the oil extraction complex successfully intercepted the Gerans.
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>>524178322
I'll liberate your tarkov from all of the frames
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>>524177159
DAS LEISE SCHIFF IST NUN EIN SCHEISSE SCHIFF!
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>>524172220
https://t.me/romanov_92/50377
>Russia doesnt do meatwaves
Ack. Russister how could this happen, losing thousands and thousands in unprotected convoys, ukraine is beating russians so fucking badly, russians lose kupyansk, lost thousands of manpower and vehicles in meatwaves. No wonder the chad zelensky refuses to cave in to Trump, he knows he's winning hard.
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BOMB HOHOLS
BOMB THEM
KILL THEM ALL
LET THEM FREEZE
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hey mister striped flag isnt it time to watch your favorite tranny and blacked porn
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>>524178439
Stabbing them to death is the most manly way to deal with drones
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>>524178519
remind me once again why you were actively seeking and looking up tranny porn in order to try to own up chug hm?
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>>524178544
thats not very nice to say by the way
im sure you didnt know it but im just saying
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>>524178230
its so obviously a psyop
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Russia and meatwaves are like epstein and diddling kids, inseparable
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>>524178570
SURREDNER IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT
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>>524178624
why would i surrender to dumb fucking ziggers? we're winning
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>>524178588
88 Hulk Hogan!
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>>524177904
Fenians will do anything not to unite their shitty Island, most disappointing Western state even more than UK
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Never surrender to the slavtards
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>>524178672
THIS IS WHAT WINNING LOOKS LIKE
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>>524178694
yeah seems so
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>>524178559
If he don't, I will.
Romanianon probably made a better screencap, but he isn't there.
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>cucktin will cuck any moment now
>he will be giving up crimea, kursk, donetsk, lugansk and demilitarizing
>any day now
>its happening ziggers, can you feel it?
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>>524178735
beat ziggers
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>>524178571
This is gold
>The public may never be shown official footage of unidentified drones flying off the Irish coast during Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s visit to Dublin earlier this month.
>The incident occurred on the night Mr Zelenskyy had flown into Dublin Airport, when the crew on the naval vessel LÉ William Butler Yeats spotting several drones flying off the coast of Howth.
>Taoiseach Micheál Martin said he believed the Defence Forces had taken the correct decision in not shooting down the drones.
>When asked by the Irish Examiner when the public could expect to see Defence Forces footage of the incident, Mr Martin replied: “You’re assuming that you’re going to see it.”
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>>524178728
that looks like it went well
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>>524178697
how is this pasta from 2025
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>>524177904
Irish People's Republic when?
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>>524178230
why would Putin send drones to Ireland?
He doesn't wanna kill Zelensky and turn a beggar bum into a martyr.
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>>524178868
The pasta was posted before, the screenshot was made in 2025
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>>524178845
Can't produce footage of what wasn't there anon. Basic shit.
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>>524178823
Once the super battle droids are mass produced it's over for the undead army.
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>>524178559
time to recall what the famous military blogger Romanov wrote about buying a car for 6 million rubles in the midst of urgent fundraising campaigns
Not gonna mention Romanovs numerous lies during Kursk
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>>524178868
>The Russians are not doing human wave attacks
they do tho, anyone who say you otherwise is liar and dumb moscovite
I was there, week ago, deployed outside Bakhmut defending the black soil transports to Poland
facing masses of vatniks attacking constantly in waves
I shoot them with my trusty Kord(made in Russia) until the barrel melted(as expected from soviet shit), then shoot them with my loyal Beryl(made in Poland)
and they still kept coming, all drunk or drugged, old and young, shouting 'slava ukraine, gierojom slava, debil lach niet strelayet, my swoi'
fucking vatniks, I killed hundreds of them and they still kept coming marked by their green camo armband thinking that I will not spot them
still we were almost forced to withdraw, lucky we were reinforced by some proPolish partisans with white-red armbands and we were able to repel orc hordes, we shared cigarettes, it was hard to communicate with them as they were speaking very strange version of Polish(must be Kresy accent) but I think they tried to say that they will be in Warszawa in two weeks, wished them good luck in fight against asiatic hordes
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>>524178969
According to the (((press))), the shadow fleet carry drones, so they can make mayhem everywhere!
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>>524176102
Andreevka north of Guyalipole has fallen according to divgen map.
Pokrovskoe town with the crossroads is now in breathing distance. This will fuck up the whole sector west of Zaphorizie.
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>>524179051
The cyborgi were replaced? Damn.
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>>524179064
how is this pasta from december 23rd 12:08 urtkaine time
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>>524178969
Listen chud, that's exactly what happened. The Russians launched the drones from the illegal shadow fleet in the Irish Sea. Brave Zelensky narrowly avoided death.
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>>524176677
>Also, how is missile interception being factored in these VLS counts? What I mean is: you need interceptors for enemy missiles just as much as you need attack missiles (if not more).
>Unless the American plan would be to always have air cover from carrier fighters?
It's a mix and mission specific.
But I think that it is usually safe to assume that at least 2/3rds of the VLS cells is anti air.
When they go to protect Israel, probably more... when prepping TLAM strikes in Venezuela probably less.

The short/medium range interceptors can be quad packed as well so 16 mk 41 gives 64 interceptors. Similar to the 9 VLS cells on Visby packing 36 short/medium range SAMs.

If you look at Russian and Chinese ships they usually have about 1/3rd of the capacity dedicated to long range anti air (S400 equivalent).
On Gorshkov 2/3rds are dedicated to anti air, on the type054A it's only 8 anti ship missiles and 32 SAMs or anti submarine missiles.

Pardon the late reply, it's -20 and I was walking to the hairdresser
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>>524179070
>>524179113
Interesting how drones started appearing over Turkey as well.
It couldn't be that Ukraine would resort to falseflag attacks??
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>>524179070
>Shadow fleet launches drones
Yep, they probably cut a few undersea cables while they were at it
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>>524179143
No worries; thanks for explaining. Your reply made me realize that VLS are a lot more adaptable than I first thought (as long as missile dimensions actually fit, of course).

Missiles seem like the clear winner, even over a naval air force, in the current era of tech. That is to say - while an air screen from a carrier is valuable, it's many times more expensive to provide and maintain operational than building a few more missile frigates.

All that said, I wonder how drones will be used in actual ship-to-ship naval combat. We've seen examples of drone use in both the Red and Black seas, but this was always a drone launched from land or a civilian ship. Since drones are slower and have less range than a strike missile, I wonder what they'll be able to do other than medium/short range anti-drone patrols.
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Mornin
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>>524179223
>It couldn't be that Ukraine would resort to falseflag attacks??
Turkey is well capable of stirring shit themselves.
In Britain and Ireland a conman has long been referred to in the colloquial as a "Turk"
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>>524179345
A good morning to ye, comrade Nagatoro!
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>>524179435
>Turkey is well capable of stirring shit themselves.
As in, Ukraine is putting together russian drones from downed parts and sending them to Turkey to provoke some sort of response.
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>>524179482
Comrade Svinorez, how ya do?
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Another brave volunteer going to liberate Crimea.
https://files.catbox.moe/sv3jdz.mp4

Von der Leyen lectures us about Jewishness and Europe.
https://files.catbox.moe/7c3mw8.mp4
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apologize if you did not understand the gayropean plan
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>>524179345
God I want to slurp Miruko's pussy so much its unreal.
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>North of Hulyaipole
Andriivka has been taken. Bratske and Ternuvate are looking vulnerable
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>>524179633
how is that not furfaggotry
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>>524179719
Her pussy is shaved
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>>524179719
I dont care about being label whatever, I just want fitgirl pussy.
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>>524179719
There's no fur and she's a woman.
Bestiality it may be because she's a nigger
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>>524179715
>Bratske and Ternuvate are looking vulnerable
Submissive and liberatable?
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>>524179719
is this furry ariral idiot?
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>>524179829
Kettuöttömöttötöttönen
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>Siversk
The Russians are accelerating the capture of territory to the west of Siversk.
It reminds me of what happened after the fall of Ughledar
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>>524179897
Where the whole southern flank collapsed
Ya, Slavyansk’s front door mine as well has a welcome mat out
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>Ukrainian sources report on an epic battle between a Ukrainian Armed Forces helicopter and a drone.
>On December 17, an MI-24 helicopter was sent on a mission to shoot down the drone.
>In the end, the drone attacked the Ukrainian Armed Forces helicopter, and the pilot was killed.
>Everyone on the drone survived, after all, it's an unmanned vehicle.
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>>524179967
ukrainian stalin is not real
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>>524179829
arirals dont have fur idiot furfaggotfat
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>>524180056
mfw looking at your posts
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>>524179510
Alles gutte, doing pre-Christmas deep cleaning of the house today and later gonna cook.
Dreading the New Year's gym newcomers already.
>>524179829
>is this furry ariral idiot?
Him spamming pseudo-futa OC race of some underage was not a clue enough for you?
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>>524180103
if trooniral wasnt real id maybe be a russian supporter but alas tzd
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>>524172534
>open r/chug
>first thing i see is a jeet wishing death upon whites
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>>524180103
>Dreading the New Year's gym newcomers already.
Which ever stick around, become bros
Merry Christmas comrade Svinorez
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>>524180047
Our Democracy™ moves in mysterious ways
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bomb pidors untill pozzia collapses (for the third time this century)
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>>524177890
Except the dozen fighting sites in the east/northeast everything else remains exactly the same here
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good thing there is no such thing as a "white american"
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>>524179957
I think the town of Rai-Oleksandrivka will prove critical in the battle between Siversk and Sloviansk.
It's a logistics hub and largest town before the Siversky Donets canal and gives command of the higher ground in the region.
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Replaced by shitskin jeets award
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Suicided for a bald glownigger kike manlet award
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Raped by chechen bulls award
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TOTAL PIDORASSIAN JEETIFICATION
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pidor army is using child rafts now
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Anyone want to take over baking?
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I am sure spamming will prevent the Ukraine’s total capitulation demographically, economically, territorial, and industrial wise
>Umah status?
HTS fags already caused a new refugee crisis ahahahahahahahahaha
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Baked
THD
>>524180422
>>524180422
>>524180422
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Baking.
>>524180463
Retard.
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>Ukraine gets bombed bigly last night
>half the catalog is hohols seething
Z
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>AVOID ICE AIR AND SANTA’S NAUGHTY LIST!

>Self-deport today with the CBP Home app, earn $3,000 and spend Christmas at home with loved ones.

>Holiday incentive is valid through the end of 2025.

art of the Christmas deal LOLOLOL
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>>524180209
>Which ever stick around, become bros
Indeed, indeed, but it makes me so sad, seeing less and less regulars with each day! I try to uplift them and keep them improving, but I cannot be each person's anchor...
>Merry Christmas comrade Svinorez
Merry Christmas (albeit early) to ye, too, comrade Nagatoro!
>>524180372
I can bake if you don't want to.
>>524180147
>but alas tzd
Don't forget that calling yourself a mere cook in case of capture is overdone by now, my friend.
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>>524180626
>self deports to Mexico
>gets 3000
>crosses the border again immediately after
they don't think this through do they?
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>mass deportations fail
>p-please deport yourself and we will give 3000 dollars
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>>524180675
>I can bake if you don't want to.
Please do, busy with something here.
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>>524177114
I thought Orange Nigger solved this. What happened?
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>>524180777
It was merely thought and prayer. This time however, there might not be mediator.
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>>524180901
I love how Donald Trump is always making alliances with our foreign enemies.
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>>524179329
>Your reply made me realize that VLS are a lot more adaptable than I first thought (as long as missile dimensions actually fit, of course).
It does seem like properly designed VLS slots are more flexible than mission modules (which are a bad meme).
I haven't seen anything single good usecase for them that can't be summed up with "hangar space than can be replaced with VLS cells".

Only 100 times more expensive, and then the "mission module" has to collect dust somewhere.
Like 30mm turret and support containers? Really?
The support equipment without a container would take up less space in the hangar area.
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>>524177114
UXO removal services in Cumbodia must be booming again
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ukranny getting absolutely ass blasted again lmaoooooooooooooo
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NEW BREAD
>>524181182
>NEW BREAD
>>524181182
NEW BREAD
>>524181182
>NEW BREAD
>>524181182
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>>524172534
Turkroach false flag

>>524180191
Turkroach with his vintage Dutch VPN
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>>524179143
>>524179329
forcing a standard size means innovation in many other ways (look at how 300 blackout was developed to fit inside a standard ar15).
The benefit is cost reduction and easy reusability across other platforms: tanks, land-based installations (aegis ashore, missile launchers for an offensive patriot type system) etc.
I know it has been a meme for weapons development, but this would be a multi-pronged project where raytheon would be getting money for missile development, some shipyard would be getting money for the boats themselves, etc.
100M is ambitious, but that swedish thing only costs about double that despite being “stealth” and using composites.
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>>524179897
>>524179957
How quickly times change…



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