>before agriculture man exists wholly in nature>lives in harmony with a pristine untouched environment>lives off hunted animals, fish and fruit >everything organic and natural >lives in tightly knit high trust bands of 50-100 humans, where everyone watches everyone’s back because your mutual survival depends on it>population density probably low enough to avoid regular inter group conflict >body and mind perfectly tuned for environment. >constant exercise >land intertwined with the supernatural, spirits and gods everywhere >no taxes, no kings >kino art and cave paintings>evidence shows agricultures rise with decreased height and physical health, with a huge increase in disease and violent deathsCivilization is unnatural to humans. It’s not how we’re meant to live and 10,000 years of trying to force it has lead us to become self domesticated goyim living in anthills known as “cities”. Farming is the ultimate pandora’s box, once done mankind could not go back without mass starvation, and the farmers could overwhelm the remaining hunters via sheer numbers. Is it any wonder nearly every religion has a story of a mythical golden age where men lived in harmony with Creation?
>>524186032Earth is actually kind of boring. I just recently found out that even after a billion more years it will never become a singularity.
Yes, agriculture is basically a sleight against nature itself. All real technologies are an attempt to subvert nature forans control, which is always short sighted and myopic as well as creating even bigger problems in the long run
>>524186289The universe already is a singularity, hylic
>>524186032Mistake ? It was a complete desaster! But you have to ask further.Plant based life is quite peaceful and beautiful, relying on sunlight.Animal based life like humans on the other hand is ugly, dirty, brutal and painful. Therefore i would argue that animal based life in general is a mistake.
>>524186386Wouldn’t we be getting crushed to death right now, gpt?
>>524186032If we didn’t pursue agriculture we would still be like the niggers in Africa. If you want that there is something wrong with you.
>>524186519jeet>>524186546>hehe i’m using the same word but a different meaning for a different context! aren’t I so funny and smart
>>524186032>lives in harmony with a pristine untouched environmentIce age megafauna that went extinct neanderthals included called me and told youre full of shit. Humans are too OP for this planet.
>>524186587America is literally Africa.
>>524186660Is it time to drink yet where you are?
>>524186691It really isn’t
>>524186685several animals got hunted to extinction far before humans ever existed there was no cities, no mass clearing of land, no pollution, no domesticated crops or animals, no settlements more than a few small hunting camps made out of wood and hide, that would be abandoned after a few months.
>>524186032It wasn't a mistake.Saccharomyces cerevisiae, an advanced fungal hive mind species, colonized the microbiome of Homo sapiens around 11000BC near Göbekli Tepe, Turkey.They have been puppeteering us ever since.
>>524186032let me ruin it for you>before agriculture man exists wholly in natureby freezing to death if he's not huddling around a fire constantly>lives in harmony with a pristine untouched environmentwhere he gets torn to pieces alive by big cats, bears, wolves and any other predator with 5 min to spare>lives off hunted animals, fish and fruit and starves when he can't find any/enough>everything organic and natural and you have parasites too. even ancient egypt was completely plagued with them. if even ancient egyptians couldn't de worm themselves you think cavemen could?>lives in tightly knit high trust bands of 50-100 humans, where everyone watches everyone’s back because your mutual survival depends on itand is stuck having to deal with the same old 50-100 neurotypical normalshits, never getting to meet a fellow autist>population density probably low enough to avoid regular inter group conflict no>body and mind perfectly tuned for environment. so perfectly tuned your life span is 40 if you're really lucky>constant exercise true>land intertwined with the supernatural, spirits and gods everywhere true>no taxes, no kings bullshit. social hierarchies were always a thing>kino art and cave paintingsok now you're just trolling>evidence shows agricultures rise with decreased height and physical health, with a huge increase in disease and violent deathstrue, but it's still better than being a savage
>>524187058based schizobut agriculture also arose in other places simultaneously. did the mesoamericans get infected by a corn mind virus and the chinese a rice one
>>524187113>>524187113>dies if he doesn’t have a fire as did anyone before the invention of central hearing >hunted by big cats and bears if you’re a retard and provoke them or get seperated from the tribe without your weapons >starves if he can’t get enough meat or fruitas you would if all the crops failed >has parasites irrelevant to agriculture. even animals have them. we still get them>don’t get to meet fellow autists there was no such thing as autism or “neurotypals” as we think of it, what you’re thinking of is a result of living in huge anonymous cities and complex societies >no war far less war between groups, I never said that it could never have happened >le die at 40so often debunked I don’t have to anymore >social hierarchy always existedI never said there was no social hierarchy. I said there were no taxes and no kings. Even social hierarchy within a Paleolithic tribe was far more direct, personal and relevant to life than distant authorities passing abstract laws and having a monopoly on violence>being a savagesubjective judgement from an agricuck
>>524186885Not my problem. Finland is still 70% covered in Forest. >b-but you live in a cityI dont.
>>524187652you’re also finnish. which means you’re a gay faggot retard idiot
>>524186032>self domesticated goyim living in anthills known as “cities”."Cloaca gentium" - Madison Grant.>10,000 years>Farming is the ultimate pandora’s boxThere is a reason why every religion has a "Fall of Man / Lose of the Paradise" mythos, it happened 10k years ago when agriculture was created and mankind had to work (be slaved) to get food from earth.
quality of life on eden has drastically declined since the arrival of semiramis and the babylonian serpant mammon and baal cults
>>524188006>Cursed is the ground because of you;nin pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field.>By the sweat of your brow, you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For you are dust, and to dust you shall returnGenesis 3:18
>>524186032Luddites get the rope
>>524186032Forest gardening, fire as a tool for hazelnut /oak/chestnut propagation, is tens of thousands of years old
>People got shorter and less fit>Hoeflation reached absurd levels (as high as 17 women to 1 man)>Ruined the environment as people did not know where to store waste or degraded the soil>wasn't even necessary for civilisation (see Gobekli Tepe)
>>524186032Absolutely, it’s the origin of all human tyranny. Any anthropologist will tell you this.
>>524187113Agriculture is cringe pastoralism exists as does hunter gathering, you do not need agriculture for any of that. You are more likely to starve with agriculture than small hunter gathering groups who historically have had better nutrition and health compared to agriculturalists who also get disease from living in much denser groups in close proximity to their own waste as well as their livestock.
>>524186032Ag was a mistake but it's a necessity to feed massive populations. Unless everyone raised their own cow for 400 pounds of meat a year, some of their diet has to be low nutrition crops.
>>524187113>and is stuck having to deal with the same old 50-100 neurotypical normalshits, never getting to meet a fellow autistThis one is good, you could be a normalfaggot if you wanted and the tribe's shaman if not>so perfectly tuned your life span is 40 if you're really luckyAnd this one was a statistical error caused by not accounting for infant mortality
>>524192996Massive populations may have also been a mistake, or at least massive population density
>>524186032Why did you make this thread? You have never done anything in your life. Your people used to live in Swamps 24/7 eating algaes and tree bark what the fuck
>>524186032Thinking in those terms is nonsensical. Agriculture was inevitable. It's as if you'd ask if the sun rising is a mistake.
>>524186032>beforeyour vision of history is mainstream and gay, you should consider doing a flip.
