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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115770165868454573
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>>524200517
Oh boy im sure this is completely true and won't be found to be a massaging of the numbers tomorrow.
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>>524200599
It's probably true, it's just that the growth is entirely from tech companies trading fake billions to each other and only kikes benefit.
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>>524200517
Trump's economic plan seems to be working but "buy the rumor, sell the news" is still in effect.
Democrats will be back in control of congress to fuck it all up by midterms so nothing will ever truly change though.
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>>524200517
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>>524200517

The problem is with him as with his boss in the kremlin is that I don't believe a word he says because he has lied constantly and been a conman his entire life. I know that when he took office a dollar cost me over 95 cents in Euros and now it's about 85, so I know he made the dollar worth less, it buys less oil, less gold, etc.

Someone will start going that it helps US exports but the truth is no one in Europe buys US manufactured or foods, not because we hate Americans but because the food is riddled with hormones, beach and toxic colourants and the manufactured goods have been of shoddy shitty quality since the 2000s. True, a lot of people have just stopped buying anything American and have canceled going as a tourist to American because, well, its a shitty place to go now and if ICE go spastic because some dimwit fucks up your visa or a flight gets canceled you might wind up in a cell, plus the whole maga being kremlin shills and the tarriffs bullshit and the threat to interfere in European elections and greenland.

On balance, I don't believe him. If there was great GDP growth the Fed would not be cutting interest rates and they have.

I think the US economy is probably in a shitty state now. We did all this tariff crap in Ireland under a leader called DeValera, destoyed the economy and caused mass poverty. Lots of nations have done this tariff crap at some point and it's always the same result, fucked economy and poverty. I think he is doing it purely so he can fund the brorrowing costs on your national debt while he let's billionaires pay nothing at all at your expense while you pay more.

You really fucked up electing this guy and vance. I don't think Americans realise what cosying up to a anti democratic dictator like Putin and acting as his errand boy against the Ukranians has done to the USA

No one respects the US. When Trump tells you otherwise, that's a lie, even here in Ireland the USA is held in contempt now.
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>>524200517
>lie about inflation
>count it as GDP growth instead
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>>524200517
inflationary
fed cant cut rates next meeting
(as predicted)
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>>524202552
its the other way around
a too-strong economy is inflationary
the report today is also inflation adjusted
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>>524200517
this is strong but its temporarily due to the cheap labor imports. the quality of living will go exponentially down with all these plebs.
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We are literally living through the Golden Age of America, and all you niggas can do is sit around and complain.
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>cheer for the shit thats going to replace you
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>>524200517
>good news
is true

>bad news
muh GDP
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>>524202552
They're lying about a bunch. The GDP is only up because they pumped billions into AI data centers, which DOES NOT help the average American worker earn more.

Also released this morning:
>Consumers confidence in the economy was shaken in December as Americans grow anxious about high prices and the impact of President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs.

>The Conference Board said Tuesday that its consumer confidence index fell 3.8 points in December. Consumers’ assessments of their current economic situation tumbled 9.5 points. 20.8% of consumers said jobs were “hard to get,” up from 20.1% last month.

>Write-in responses to the survey showed that prices and inflation remained consumers’ biggest concern, along with tariffs, despite repeated claims by President Trump that inflation is a hoax.

>The December survey showed that respondents’ views of their family’s current financial situation sank into negative territory for the first time in close to four years.

>Perceptions of the job market also declined this month. The country’s labor market has been stuck in a “low hire, low fire” state, economists say. Since March, job creation has fallen to an average 35,000 a month, compared to 71,000 in the year ended in March. Fed Chair Jerome Powell said recently that he suspects those numbers will be revised even lower.

>A measure of Americans’ short-term expectations for their income, business conditions and the job market remained stable at 70.7, but still well below 80, the marker that can signal a recession ahead. It was the 11th consecutive month that reading has come in under 80.
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>>524200599
>it's fake if it contradicts my beliefs!
KEK
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>>524202315
>his boss in the kremlin
Stopped reading right there. You lost tranny, and you lose every day. KEK
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>>524200972
Look, I know your locked into the partisan crap and le ebic Fox and CNN tribe bullshit but just because the democrats have lunatic leftists does not mean that billionaire sponsored dickheads like Trump or Vance that don't give a fuck if they deal with war criminal dicators as good friends over the heads of old democratic allies completely against the ethos of your own consitution and the great US Presidents like Eisenhower, Truman and Reagan that made you a superower was a great plan. Let alone this tariff crap, do you even realise that trade imbalances are NOT other nations applying tariffs to you yet or are you still sucking up this fucking nonsense. It's a tax on YOU.

You've no idea the harm Trump and Vance have done to the place of America in the world. All my life I viewed America a a bastion of democracy and a light and leader of the free world. Now I view the USA (the goverment and maga, not the rest of America) as a complete garbage pail of gibbering valueless idiot cunts. So does the rest of the world all the nations that looked to the US as a leader and great nation during the cold war and their populations now see maga America as a hostile gangster state that has a petty spiteful lying crook who prefers murdering dicators to elected leaders.

I don't think there has ever been a president that has lost the US more respect or allies and he's done it in just 12 months.

Some sleezy fuck who screws hookers behind his wife and kids back and keeps showing up at teen beauty contests while being Putins errand boy and that dickhead Musk?

That's the best thing Christians in the US could scrape up to elect?

The world is on hold waiting to see if your madness ends, I mean what the fuck was that Americafest? Have you all gone mad? So no relaliation, just waiting but if you elect Vance you're fucked.

It might take you a decade just to recover from the last 12 months. The democrats shit as they now may be don't even come into that.
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>>524200517
>wall of text
Pass
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>>524204014
Yeah? You see right there, that's how you lost the world and stopped being a superpower and the US lost all respect worldwide.
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>>524203537
>uses polls to support zher's points
KEK
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>>524204014
I take it you hate America and want it ruined and hated?
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>>524202315
>the truth is no one in Europe buys US manufactured or foods
sure you cucks buy tons of our gas because our State Dept forced u not to buy Putlers kek. ur weapons also suck so despite a few of your "countries" making their own you all still buy the lions share of your weapons from us. overall youre a paycuck
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>>524204082
>>524204286
>replying twice
here's your attention, paycuck parasite
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>>524200517
He said "market" 13 times in a tweet.
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>>524204408
Read what I wrote, places like the EU because the US is an old ally are waiting to see if this madness ends with his term, plus they are engaged in defeating a Russian dicator that targets you with nuclear weapons (and depises the US and wants the USSR back) and helping Ukraine.

You want to know what happens if you elect Vnace and cartry on this shit, e.g Greenland? The dollar collapses and NATO is over. You know what that means for the US?

Or do you just hate America and democracy and your own consitution to begin with?

You WANT America to be despised and bankrupt is that it because you are a loser you want to wipe out your own nation so everyone else there is too?
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>>524204500
>>524204408
Ah well, fuck you all then. Don't come knocking when you need friens and allies. Don't come looking for refuge here when the dollar collapses. You won't be welcomed. Carry on to your nations doom.

Maga is destroying America.
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>>524204018
Word salad. Let me guess, atheist?
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GOLDEN AGE
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>>524204814
You sound like a massive fag.
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>>524200517
>memeflag 'm-muh GDP growth'


See:
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>>524202641
>>524202641
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>>524203537
>GDP is only up because they pumped billions into AI data centers
>which DOES NOT help the average American worker earn more
This.
It's happy talk from the administration (reflecting an artificial pump-up number of little to zero, and probably negative, real significance)


Refer to: >>524202641
>>524202641
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>>524205310
The interest gets paid out to mostly US banks, citizens, and companies. There is some foreign ownership of US debt, but that doesn't matter when you have nuclear submarines. Stop thinking like a goy.
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>>524205549
>3 pbtid brainlet "gets paid out to"
(You) have *Zero Fucking Idea* what you're posting about. None

Interest Payments on annual deficit now exceeds discretionary spending, and takes fully half of the $2T deficit approved by U.S. Congress
Half of the American (fedgov) budget is immediately vacuumed up by credit card payments
The incoming administration's theoretical plan had been to get *annual GDP growth rate* up to the 5 or 6 percent vicinity, from its present anemic ~2 percent; but even if 5 or 6 could be attained it doesn't at all address U.S. Congress' continued appropriation onf $2T/annum deficits and headlong approach of the national debt to $50T+ magnitude
At the present rates of $2T/annum spending with shitty trailerpark ~2-3 percent annual GDP growth the U.S. fedgov slams into the brick wall of Total Default in four years from now.
if ? the global debt market lasts even a fourth of that duration which is not likely
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>>524205431
Yup.

But don't mention those nasty metrics like job-creation (since they are low and will likely be revised lower according to the Fed Chair himself.)
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>>524204996
No actually. I'm a Catholic who attends Mass every Sunday and looking forward to first Mass tomorrow night and I'll go again on Christmas. I don't see anything Christian in Maga or Trump, Hegseth or Vance at all any more than the abortionists.
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>>524205078
Well I've got a wife and kids and could box you around the place no both, but you carry on destoying America there for the enterainment of the kremlin spammers that blanket this board and want to see you do just that
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>>524205975
the administration/fedgov, and the Fed, is playing fairy tale whistling past the graveyard games just as it has been for the past six years (We were fucked economically during Trump's first term but the bottom fell out of the investment banks in mid-2019 which brought on covid, never-before-in-human-history global lockdown, and anothe $12T in liquidity to keep the global black box gigacasino of investment banks afloat
Economy, that is the Real Economy of goods-services-commodities, is now officially a simulacrum for the Financialized giobal gigacasino of speculative debt instruments.
I had a small amount of faith in the administration's re-shore industry strategy, but that only would have been able to work (it's not so much now, fucking 'AI datacenters' aren't robust manufacturing or jobs) but that would only occur if Congress substantially reduced its spending / reduced the size of fedgov.
Apparenlty now the strategy is just more happy talk, "wow look at the big AI" hype and eternat debt gigabubble expansion.
Which is a problem not just solely for the U.S. / its citizens and economy, because the global debt market stability and confidence relies exclusively on a single debt note default denomination : USD
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>>524206438
>eternat
*eternal
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>>524200972
I truly cannot imagine being this gullible.
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>>524203675
>Eglinfag working Christmas week
lmao
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>>524205549
Aye it does matter because your main lenders are the EU and if they stop fuding you or settling trade in dollars or kick out the bullshit social media companies you have that make up a big chunk of your 401ks, you're fucked. But carry on chanting USA USA USA and insulting your allies in the UK and EU who lost men in Iraq and Afgahnistan by all means. You could not be doing a better job of destoying everything America stood for in the past
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>>524206607
The broader 50,000K ft view problem is that the entire global system of debt, aka the global debt (bond) market, is entirely dependent upon a single denomination : US treasuries
Global debt market, that is bonds, is supposed to remain steady and stable. It is not supposed to whipsaw up-down (like stocks or crypto), as it has been the past three years more so than in half a century.
Why is that bad? Because global debt has quintupled over the past several decades, even up from $255 trillion in 2019 to $350 trillion in 2025 <---by *one third* in just the past half decade, **AND** because the entire global monetary system is entirely founded on debt based fiat currency __in other words__ the global financial-currency system is based upon and backed by Nothing At All except everyone's collective faith in the global debt market, that means the single default reserve currency unit USD <--over all the rest.

Nobody wants to buy the debt.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/500310690

When the global debt market implodes so goes it all.
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>>524200517
Im not reading all that Boomer babble.
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>>524207045
The US is in a unique postion there, essentially it has been subsidised since bretton woods by the use of the dollar in commodity trade giving a great standard of living for Americans and funding the American aircraft carriers. Of course now all that is gone or will be if Vance is elected and Europe actually shrugs and walks away like I say, they are waiting to see if this insanity that has taken the USA ends with Trump. Either way the US has vastly more dollars died up in international trade than can be absorbed by the US economy. The Euro is not in that position, neither is the Yuan or Yen. What that means is if the EU pulls the plug which it might well have it it was not focused on helping Ukraine against Russian tyranny (something past US great presidents like Truman and Reagan would ahve applauded) the US will collapse. I hope that does not happen, it is bad for the USA and bad for the EU but if it comes doen to stuff like annexing Greenland, being a puppet of the kremlin, interfering in Europes elections etc then that's what has to happen and will.

Maga is three years away from completely destoying the USA and has already lost it's leadership position in NATO and the respect of the world. If Vance is elected, it's game over.

I assume most of the maga shills on here are either Russians on VPNs or anachists that want to destoy the US for some retarded reason.

All this shite on this board, laura loomer, fuentes, that nut gabbard, vance that drunk hegseth with his sacriligous tatoos and stippers and rapes, that orange moron with his prositutes and teenage beauty pagents, that cringe Americafest thrash where you hve that rapist brand and that stripper "Nicki Minaj" screaming and taking the Lords name in vain.

Do you have any idea how little respect the world has left for America?

Someone tried to call me an atheist. I've been religious my whole life and I don't like seeing degenerate scum trying to use my faith as some sort of political stunt.
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That's great, but it doesn't really help the people who got assraped by bidens economy and can't afford food.
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>>524207045
Did you know that my little nation Ireland holds half of what China does in US treasuries alone? Same with a lot of other EU states.
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>>524208182
He inherited the mess caused by Trump handing out cheques during covid. Whatever about the democrats the Fed did the right thing raising rates and killing off inflation. For that matter should the wold thank the USA for the fiancial crisis it cause the world with its loans to impoverished blacks to invest in property flipping?

But the thing that did the most harm is Trump acting as a procy for Putin over Ukrine and Vance and Zelensky in teh oval office. If there was a day when the world pointed and said, that's it, the US is dead as the leader of the free world, that was it.
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>>524205431
>Elon shilling UBI with AI
4IR is uniparty goals the fight is just who gets money. A recession is super happening. They will turn gibs on but dont be surprised if they start mentioning a draft.
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Even if this were true, at best it would be from a K shaped economy

GDP goes up because they spend money building AI datacenters to replace workers with chatbots, meanwhile the workers who have been replaced suffer. Labor market still getting worse, inflation still getting worse, fed still lowering rates. Everything points to economic conditions getting worse for your average person, not better.
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>>524206607
You sound gay and annoying.
>Muh catholic ira
>autistically screeching at a bunch of lads cheering on their sportsball or bro shit
I go to mass daily and you sound like you got your info on this country from a pamphlet from sinn fein
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>>524208911
I;ve never voted for Sinn Fein in my life and never will, I'll tell you what those I can call you a liar with no regret, unlike you I was raised in the Faith and don't lie about it.

Gay is it? With your nutjobs like fuetes and loomer and gabbard and your Americanfest celebration of cringe? You sad little fuck, if I annoy you then that's grad, I must be saying the right thngs and bursting your bubble of lies and bullshit. You're no decent Catholic that's for sure fawing on people who use prositutes behind their wifes backs and have their children rasied in heathen cults who act as proxies for mudering tyrants and scum like elon musk. One minte your pushing transvestites and lgbt and blm and the next minute its Russian sowed conspiracyt theories and euqally derranged and vicious nutjobs. Gay? You would not know how to me a man or a father any more than you can tell the truth

Enough of this, even talking to morons like you tells me the USA really is over. Christ is going to punish those degenerates who pretend to be his followers in a scrabble for power that's for sure.
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>>524204082
Grow up you potato.
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>>524207984
>I assume most of the maga shills on here are either Russians on VPNs or anachists that want to destoy the US for some retarded reason.
It's more like the latter but there is a combination of things that goes into the reasoning.
MAGA has a lot of people who want America to be isolationist, they see things like Ukraine as not America's problem, but at the same time Trump and Vance spend a massive amount of time threatening EU countries, bombing alleged drug boats off of Venezuela, bombing Iran, getting heavily involved in the Middle East, etc. So there's nothing actually 'isolationist' about MAGA. Not that isolationism is a good idea in the first place.

I also think a lot of MAGA wants to have it both ways, they want a US that's completely detached from the world but they also want all the perks of being a global superpower, doesn't work that way.

With all of that said, I don't think Trump is working for Russia. I think he's just generally bad at governing which has the effect of weakening the US. He only lives in the moment. All his decisions are based upon 'what will make me look good right this second'. If it makes him look bad 10 minutes later he'll forget he even said it but it doesn't matter, that's future Trump's problem.
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>>524200517
So they will just keep gaslighting while people are more broke than ever? Is this a good strategy?



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