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The Australian federal and state governments are proposing sweeping gun law reform after a mostly peaceful terrorist attack in Bondi.

Representative Yasmin Catley reads a draft of the legislation in which she proposes to ban belt fed magazines. What other absurdly dangerous fictional things should be banned?
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>belt fed magazines
I imagine this means a belt box but it's anyone's guess what those retards are trying to describe

>gun law reform
So that's the latest double speak for additional bans and confiscations
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>>524214464
>Propose a new restriction that would have had zero impact on the Bad Thing.
genius
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>>524214464
>What other absurdly dangerous fictional things should be banned?
Womens Rights
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>>524214465
>So that's the latest double speak for additional bans and confiscations

yes I'm being very facetious

They want to ban people from owning more than 4 guns because some Muslim terrorists used 2 guns to shoot up a beach party
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>>524214468
What was response time of first _armed_ officer to arrive? I haven't seen that number anywhere.
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>>524214468
Goes without saying that's all fuckery but they had more than two firearms because Paki senior rearmed after being interrupted by that other guy and continued shooting with Paki junior
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>>524214465
>Laying in the dirt
>Trashing your tarp with muzzle blast
Peak performance
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>>524214469
30 seconds

and they drove straight past the most direct route to take the low ground
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>>524214470
for all intents and purposes they used 2. The fact that the father was a fucking geriatric who could barely walk let alone engage in combat is a sidenote
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>>524214469
Are the ordinary police in Sydney only issued Tasers like their British counterparts?

>>524214471
Yeah, that range day meetup was a cluster fuck

>>524214473
>father was a fucking geriatric who could barely walk
That makes the police response even more of a piss take
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>>524214474
oh yeh the police response was dismal. Every single one of them took the low ground
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>>524214475
Now I'm wondering what the official non-firearms police guidelines are for active shooters
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>>524214466
Of course going after guns means the Government doesnt have to tackle Immigration, Hate crimes against Jews, or ASIO and the AFP being caught with their pants down

The usual political shitheads are using this to ram through anti-protest legislation and the current leaders of WA and NSW seem to love the usual gun grabbing excuses. I look forward to the new hoops that need to be jumped through (all this is to say I wish I was born American)
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>>524214476
Someone who worked with a lot of unarmed officers before, their job is to basically call out the location and status of the shooter constantly over radio until armed officers are on scene. In short, they're useless as fuck and more or less banking on an event like that not occurring in the first place.
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>>524214477
That's the most annoying thing, there are people and institutions at fault with the rest of the blame game being slathered around for political points
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>>524214478
Grim!
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>>524214477
not just anti-protest legislation - hate speech legislation like the UK where you get a knock on the door if you post about immigration
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>>524214478
they're armed, they're just too cowardly to use it. They could've mag dumped them from 15m.
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>20 years from now
>weapons are exceedingly restricted
>basically only dustfuck farm boys have their grandpa's hunting bolts
>Aus still has a christmas terror attack every 4 years
>more gun control ia implemented
Oh well.
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>>524214476
all cops have firearms in Aus
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>>524214477
>means the Government doesnt have to tackle Immigration, Hate crimes against Jews
I got perma'd from the Australian subr*ddit simply for saying "wilful ignorance of the real problem" le mao
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>>524214465
Oh no /k/omrade, the "belt fed magazine" thing is even stupider. Best we can tell for the minute, (it's hard to say when they persist in using words and definitions that are are made up), but we're pretty sure the belt fed magazine they're talking about is the 12G bandolier one of the blokes was wearing. No I'm not kidding.
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>>524214471
that tarp probably costs as much as firing that weapon for a quarter of a second
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>>524214474
Australian police officers are all issued firearms, typically Glocks in either .40 or 9mm. We just live in an actually civilised society so they almost never get used.
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>>524214488
>We just live in an actually civilised society so they almost never get used.

As recent events have just confirmed, right Brucie?
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>>524214489
Thank you for confirming American illiteracy.
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>>524214485
You can get banned on that shithole website for being right of Chomsky.
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>>524214486
>mag toob faster to load by wearing the cartridges
>must ban boolet bandolier belts
That's for deciphering the nogunz speak, anon

>>524214484
Hope your local police are better than Bondi's, pardner

>>524214488
>almost never
Yours is the only life you get to wager on it, subject
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You all understand this is merely the pretext, and that the pretext was arranged. Right?
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>>524214492
How did Uvalde go for you, by the way?
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>>524214477
Don't wish for an easier life. You're meant to be the change you wanna see.
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Australians will turn in their guns and do nothing. I know this because they literally fucking did it before.
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>>524214464
Aussie here, I honestly support banning non-citizens from getting a gun loicence, we'll see what retarded shit they throw on top.
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>>524214497
You could just stop immporting the worst humans on Earth instead.
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>>524214464
I've heard a lot of "why were they allowed to have 6 guns?" and "why are people allowed to keep high powered weapons in their home?" so they're definitely going to restrict how many guns Aussies can own and how they're stored.
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>>524214498
Hahahaha, you think any politicians that accept donations are going to drive up labour costs like that?
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>>524214499
This is the ultimate conclusion of "safe storage" laws btw.
>guns have to be locked up at home anyway so why do you need them in your house?!
>just keep them at the range instead, you psycho!
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>>524214491
Agree but for most bans I have had to actually mention Islam by name
Just confirms the wilful ignorance
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>>524214499
>so they're definitely going to restrict how many guns Aussies can own and how they're stored.

Yep and its retarded because it takes less than a minute for anyone who hunts or is a farmer to explain how they have to use the right calibre on the right animal otherwise its inhumane

>inb4 yes mr. game officer i did need to use the .308 on the little bunny.
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>>524214503
The less Bunny is left, the less there is to feel pain. It's the humane thing to do.
This is why more people should consider hunting with something like 75 × 640 mm or larger.
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>>524214464
>What other absurdly dangerous fictional things should be banned?
Islamophobia! We wouldn't want to spread racism just because some people of unidentified ethnicity committed a mass shooting.
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>>524214464
I thought Australia already completely banned guns, what was the point of this attack on their own people?
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>>524214506
They didn't completely ban them. They just re-categorized it as no longer being a God-given right but a government-allowed privilege; a privilege subject to mental health checks, licenses and fees, storage requirements, magazine restrictions, entire "banned" categories of firearms, and the demand to prove you have a specific "need" for each gun you want to buy.

So yes, Aussies can still own firearms, but their government has made it so much of a pain in the ass to do that many of them don't bother. And now they're wanting to make it even HARDER.
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>>524214507
>well no but actually yes
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>>524214507
>So yes, Aussies can still own firearms, but their government has made it so much of a pain in the ass to do that many of them don't bother

As strange as it seems, a lot more Australians have started getting into guns and going through all the hoops in recent years. I think enough time has passed where whatever stigma there once was is kind of fading. Even now with the Bondi shooting i reckon most people understand it as a failure of tackling immigration/hate crimes than a firearms issue. Before the shooting i geninuely feel police and state government were seething at the increase in licenced owners they were pushing for the bullshit gun limit laws back then too.
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>>524214464
>Albo doesn’t ban guns
>queue a legion of screeching Karen’s, Liberals, Greens and Jews claiming that Albanese orchestrated the attack to kill Jews and to attack Israel while sharing AI pictures on Facebook depicting him wearing a Hamas bandanna and a muzzie beard while doing the Tariq finger
>Albo does ban guns
>queue a legion of screeching Bazza’s, National’s, Greens and Muslims claiming that Albanese orchestrated the attack to ban all guns and to attack Palestinians/muzzies while sharing AI pictures on Facebook depicting him sucking Nanu Nanu’s cock with a Star of David tattooed on his forehead
What is the winning move here? What would you do to get out of this situation?
>Also no you can’t just say firebomb Sydney, but Melbourne is allowed
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>>524214510
Ban muslims.
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>>524214510
the winning move is not be a weak piece of Palestine backing shit to begin with, and don't eat up all your intelligence and law enforcement resources on targeting "muh white nationalists" instead of terrorists that are writing love letters to ISIS and flying to the Phillippines for training
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>>524214469
There were two cops at event when the shooting started. The government back tracked and claimed it 3 because a dude was driving past at the time and there were 20 on patrol in the general area.

>every western country now has to have peace bollards and beat cops with ARs. Because a certain group of people might randomly today is the day they're going to become martyrs.

>ASIO had one of the terrorists on their radar in 2019 but where directed to stop looking at jihadists and focus on right-wing extremists. Head of ASIO has admitted that it's impossible to track the far right as people self radicalise in a couple of weeks via a choose your own adventure series of leaps.

>NSW police issued one of the terrorists a gun licence even though his son who lived with him was on a watch list
>>Both terrorists travelled to a known ISIS recruiting and training hotspot a month ago without any questions being raised.
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>>524214499
NSW have come out and said they want to limit it to 4
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>>524214513
yeh dude drove right on past instead of having a duck shoot and dropping them with east
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>>524214488
and then when they have the once in a century opportunity to legally magdump into a shitskin they fucking hide and wait for it to resolve itself
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>>524214514
Thankfully they're getting crazy push back and the usual media,tactics aren't working because the people targeted have said the guns aren't the problem.

>based QLD telling the PM to fuck off with his anti gun push.

>NSW wants to remove people's right to appeal against being denied a gun licence and use anti terror legislation to be protests they don't like.
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>>524214510
he could get out of it by taking accountability - she blame squarely belongs on intelligence and police agencies. He could even dodge the fact that he's fueled the fires of hate and harbored Islamic hate preachers if he through gov departments under the bus. And that wouldn't even be unreasonable, they deserve to be put through the ringer. But instead he's shifting the blame to white nationalists and gun owners.

He brought on himself to start with, then instead of backing up and taking the right route, he doubled down and went even further in the wrong direction
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>>524214493
Do you think people are starting to realize they are importing this shit for exactly this kind of shit to happen so they can act like they are "saving" the populous with laws like this?

Nah, i doubt it.
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>>524214517
Queensland is the only state that isn't acting like Portland at the moment. Fucking clown world
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>>524214517
oh yeh the number of people falling for the media tricks is getting lower and lower every day
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>>524214485
What did you expect, they're all islamonazis now. Indeed, Islam has to be treated like the zombie infection it is before they go from begging to attacking. Yes, even the children: I've watched Goblin Slayer, and I don't care about human life either.
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But I thought the gun control was working and that these deaths were now acceptable because they're less than America's?
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>>524214498
but that would cause house prices to go down
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>>524214510
The correct move was honestly to double down imo
>fuck off the jews brought it on themselves
this but phrased more "politically correct" was the right answer for the electorate I reckon. Instead, because he backed down it opened the space for the media to start sinking their teeth in and spinning the story out of his control.
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>>524214491
Chomsky is actually being unironically referred to as conservative now

I wish I was kidding
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>>524214525
nah if he threw ASIO, AFP and NSW Pol under the bus and vowed to crack down on immigration and Islamic terror, he would be massively praised. Even if he didn't follow through with the last 2.
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>>524214498
sure, when they make up 25% of the Home Affairs minister's electorate? As if.
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Finally the belt-fed shotguns will be banned
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>>524214519
I doubt the australian government is cunning and machiavellian to that point. I believe the islamic extremists slip by because of sheer incompetence, not because the spooks allowed them in.
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>>524214464
>after a mostly peaceful terrorist attack in Bondi
The fuck are you talking about
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>>524214516
To be fair, I'd wait until the muslim was finished killing kikes before I magdumped him.
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>>524214494
Schools are “gun free zones” just like your defenseless country. Try again, you mong
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>1990s total bans on everything that isnt basically a hunting/pest control rifle meets 2000s laissez faire immigration policy
It will never stop. Aussies will wake up not being able to buy spoons one day because Mehmet will sharpen those after they ban knives and forks.
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>>524214534
Grim!
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>>524214488
No you don’t. You’re a bunch of prisoners and primitives stuck on a continent sized nation with a population the size of nyc and LA combined. Somehow you still imported the social contagion of Islam. Congrats you played yourself. Imagine patting yourself on the back because you are sheep who lack the resolve to save the lives of your countrymen while they’re being massacred
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>>524214492
>banning a bandolier
I thought knife bans were retarded for trying to ban sharp angles but banning loops of cloth is some real schizo statist shit
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>>524214536
Better ban and confiscate leather from which ghost bandoliers can be manufactured!

>>524214536
My sympathies for our /k/ameraden trapped in the Aus, surrounded by knob gobblers like him
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>>524214483
Wouldn’t all guns be banned by that point
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>>524214465
>>524214464
I think the belt fed retardation is due to the meme at least here in the anti gun state I live in where you can technically have a belt fed manual action, even though no one would ever do that because it's retarded so you only see it in meme guns
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>>524214539
Strictly for hunting and critter control and Japanese style brass management where you have to return the spent casings to get more ammo. It can get really fucking stupid before no guns whatsoever.
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>>524214533
Just like an upside-down cuck to deflect to child killing when we're just pointing out facts. Aussie cucks are getting what they deserve. The continent's a prision, anyhow.
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What happen to Aussie culture? They used to be badass now they're no different from their mother country Britain.
You'll think after Port Hoax, the Aussies would tell the government to stick their gun control where the sun doesn't shines but they bought into hook line and sinker.
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>>524214476
>>524214475
>>524214474
Why didn't they have a patrol carbine like American cops got after north hollywood?
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>>524214488
>We just live in an actually civilised society so they almost never get used.
you literally just had a terrorist attack, thirdy
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>>524214501
that's why the second amendment says keep and bear, not that safe storage laws are constitutional, because keep and own are two different things
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its worth it. we dont have as many terrorist attacks as the yanks.
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>you wont do shit!
>you wont do shit!
>you wont do shit!

im starting to think all those aussie flag posts weren't chinks and poos but dumb australians. looooooooooool.
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>>524214464
Women should not be in such positions of power. We'd ought to airdrop MAC10 .45 ACP submachine guns along with ammo and hearing protection to help patriotic Aussies liberate their land.
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>how can you blame muslims for shootings when right wing extremists do it too?
your response?
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>>524214543
Unironically both world wars causing demographic crises combined with neoliberalist policies
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>>524214488
>We just live in an actually civilised society
That appears to be unraveling now.
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>>524214541
> Strictly for hunting and critter control and Japanese style brass management where you have to return the spent casings to get more ammo. It can get really fucking stupid before no guns whatsoever.

But would there be more bans like say on handguns or shit like having all guns be stored on the range
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I saw that screencap posted on /pol/ earlier today. Apparently that bitch says something about banning “beltfed magazines”. We had a fun time in that thread.

Anyone have a link to the video where she says that? I’m dying to see it.
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>>524214554
Edit: I should read before I post, y’know? I think the OP might be the same guy
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>>524214550
False equivalence. Muslims are not human. (Most) right wingers are. It’s like getting mad at exterminators for dealing with disease-ridden pests.
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>>524214464
>What other absurdly dangerous fictional things should be banned?
If the rules here mean anything (they don't) then you'll catch a ban for off topic posting.
But we all know that rule about /pol/ posting is selectively enforced, and the tranny reddit mods definitely play favorites.
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>>524214464
Instead of banning Indians, they ban Australians from owning guns and welcome more Indians? Genius.
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>>524214558
They’ve conditioned everyone to accept an accusation of racism as the final argument that warrants no further elaboration. If you suggest that maybe the influx of browns ought to be stemmed, you get hit with the mate-in-1 “you’re racist” and the argument is over. You’re now defending yourself or being admonished for wrongthink. Nothing in the west will ever get better until the average man loses this fear of being called names and says “yeah, anyways, as I was saying…”

They do this in America too. Media people, politicians, and Twitter leftists will bait right wingers with dumbass posts and questions like “if capitalism makes a place rich, then explain why Baltimore sucks” or “if red cities are so great, then explain why [60% black city] is a shithole. Checkmate!”. They already know what the answer is, but They bait you to correctly point out the culprit so they can deride you to their audience as a low-brow racist. You’re simply never supposed to ascribe any differences in outcome to race, ever, even if it is the only explanation. Blacks have sickle cell anemia? Must be generational trauma from slavery. Black murder rate is 10x the white rate? Must be socioeconomic factors. Muslims have a penchant for rape and stabbing? Must be leaded paint.

rant over. I am expecting a ban for this /pol/ post.
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>>524214506
oddly enough, this was is the belief of most of the local populace.
They also still think americans can wander into walmart and buy a machinegun with no ID.
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>>524214531
you must be new here.
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>>524214549
fuck off. we don't want your earpro.
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>>524214544
Because that would make too much sense

>>524214546
That's the neat thing, the right to also own firearms is protected by the Ninth Amendment

>>524214547
You have more than the Swiss so your bans and confiscations were for nothing other than defenselessness

>>524214559
Anon, the majority of racists are anti-white
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>>524214544
because it's another tool we need to spend time money and effort training into recruits who need to complete their basic competencies in private because basic firearm training is too much of an emotional strain. christ knows how dangerous that would end up, since events like this seem to happen once every 30 years or so
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>>524214563
why did everyone get so salty about that video?
they never said people shouldn't have guns. just mounting machineguns on robots needed more work, and shooting kids is kinda fucked up.
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>>524214548
yeah no shit
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>>524214547
shalom
>>524214564
there was literally a mass shooting in australia in 2019
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>>524214563
> Anon, the majority of racists are anti-white

I know. Why are you saying this? There is Nobody alive in 2025 who is unaware of this.

>>524214561
Fackin’ ‘Stralians appropriating our trusty media’s subterfuge. “Mostly peaceful [death and destruction]”. Get your own material, Ozzies!
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>>524214567
a junkie shot 5 other junkies in darwin, then walked directly to the police station in 2019
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>>524214569
so it doesn't count if it's drug related? well there goes like 99% of all nonDV mass shootings in the US
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>>524214570
It doesn't count when having an AR in a patrol car or not had zero bearing on the perpetrator literally knocking on the door of the police station to hand himself in.
Also I think we need to stop adhering to the shitty leftist definition of a mass shooting involving less people than you have fingers on one hand.
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>>524214550
Obviously we need DEI among murderers so the importation of 3rd world muslims must continue.
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>>524214464
surely banning guns will stop all gun crime
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>>524214571
4 people not including the gun man were murdered. I specifically did not count DV or events where fewer than 4 people, not including the gunman, the gun man died. Apparently the FBI definition is
3 or more deaths, not including the gun man
in public
not in the result of another criminal act
the ausfalian police got in a shoot out where 6 people, including 2 cops and 1 bistandard died in 2022. there were police standoffs that lead to 3+ people being killed in ausfalia in 2014 and 2011. There were several attempted mass shootings where fewer than 3 people died and I am, of couse, leaving out all the domestic violence
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that's great and all, you you still haven't defined the point you're trying to make.
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>>524214539
They can still ban trucks, knives, and hurtful words.
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>>524214464
How about some Paki control instead? Literally THE worst people of the Muslim world, they're the worst and most violent throwbacks just culturally, and they are literally the most inbred demographic in the entire world, at a rate of 66% of their population.
There's lots of other shitty countries in those regions too, but the Pakis are by far the very worst.

>>524214483
>DO YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THE BLOODY AMERICANS, MATE??

>>524214488
So civilized you don't even know how to use them in an emergency, huh.
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>>524214486
Dire. It's like looking back at Feinstein's Reign.
*spit*

>>524214533
Bingo.

>>524214499
>"why were they allowed to have 6 guns?"
Completely bizarre thought, considering anyone who's a serious hunter could easily own 4 to 6 different guns for various different games and types of hunts.
Go look at the Nordic countries in Europe, they own more guns per capita than the rest of the continent, every other adult is at least an occasional hunter, and lots just live for it.
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>>524214578
I live in Finland, own 12 guns and I don't hunt anything
That said our lefty media is currently jacking off at the thought of Australian gun bans
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>>524214578
>registered
Imagine letting the government know.
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>>524214512
good goy
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>>524214578
I will never understand how Antis come to the conclusion that somehow less guns = less gun deaths. Somehow despite having the highest ratio of guns to people, the Norse have half the "gun death" rate than france and italy.
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Radical Islamists who shoot people in broad daylight aren't know for caring about the law.

I feel like there's a term for this kind of logic, where there's a reality you can't face mentally or rhetorically, so you try to prove the opposite true. Dissonance. Liberal Mental fucking illness

Will they now blame ordinary gun owners who don't hand in their guns for a terror attack, which both occurred prior, and which they had nothing to do with?

And for people who don't understand the proposals, some have been on the back burner for a while and relate to mechanical features of certain guns which would generally lend to illegal machine gun conversions. So they aren't features of commercial production guns, relates more to import loopholes.

See they're realising that if terrorists had military backgrounds, instead of religious backgrounds, they would cause a hundred times more damage. Liberals suddenly realising what the armies job is, why we have an army. They might even get full circle and realise that the civilian shooters there's trying to disarm ARE the army.
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>>524214582
Belgium and France are almost entirely driven by niggers and nafris, will the media talk about this? No
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>>524214464
Good. It'll help all the crazies in kangarooland to learn how easy it is to make firebombs and IEDs instead.
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>>524214585
>firebombs
Apparently arson attacks were a big problem in Australia after Port Arthur and subsequent gun laws were implemented.
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>>524214565
Because the twat explicitly told Brandon that the drawings of children were for failure testing but then claimed they were actually "targets to shoot" after the fact and that Brandon was "keen" on using drawings of children as targets
https://youtu.be/0rliFQ0qyAM?t=605

They took advantage of Brandon's hospitality [firearms, ammunition, range access] lied about him in their hit piece on America and the Second Amendment, then doubled down when confronted about all this because they think that being a piece of shit is OK when you have the correct [their] political beliefs

The cunt also describes up to 10 years imprisonment, $250000 in fines as "flimsy"
https://youtu.be/Ih5oy4CtCaE?t=108

>>524214568
Evidently not because accusations of racism are overwhelmingly projection
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Some Australian gun owners have done some very silly things, and unfortunately we're going to speak to them this week.

Luckily it's us, we're not out to get people or provide the ABC and table of terror weapons. If you've done something silly, we'll sort that out before either
A. You're targeted by terrorists because you've got something they really want.
B. Bent cops turn up in a bear cat to give the PM some clout by shooting you for no reason.
C. What your doing over time becomes something sinister, like golum, having, hiding, working on your project turns you into a nasty person.

Show us what you've got, half goes on the black case of You're-never-getting-that-back, half I just break with a hammer so it doesn't become evidence, you get a magistrates hearing in 8 months, we tell him You're just a stupid person who didn't consider the risks, because you're genuinely ignorant of terror related issues, because you're not a terrorist, so we just broke your toy with a hammer and you agree not to do it again. Good outcome.
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>>524214559
I’d expect everyone on this site to be intimately familiar with the phenomenon you described by this point. Thanks for the effortpost though.
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>>524214577
we both know no left wing party is ever going to restrict immigration
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>>524214582
I think it's literally just an easy slogan to get retards to agree with gun laws without thinking about it. the most I've ever heard someone put thought into it it was
>muh theft and muh straw purchases you can only hold one gun at a time
as though rifles and shotguns are ever used in crime and of course the fact that people own multiple guns to hunt different game animals
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>>524214590
>no mainstream party is ever going to restrict immigration
ftfy, the Liberals and Nats had a decade and they did nothing to restrict immigration
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>>524214592
This
>>524214591
>I think it's literally just an easy slogan to get retards to agree with gun laws
This this this this this
>>524214588
Kill yourself
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>>524214464
>mostly peaceful terrorist attack
Did someone use safe-edgy slurs or what?
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>Never going to get sensible airsoft or gel blaster laws.
Fuck this gay earth. How is it Australia is basically the only country on earth that bans literal non-lethal toys used for sport?
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>>524214464
you know the proper response to all of this is ned kelly.
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>>524214464
>Trying this again after they did Port Arthur
Nice Try glowies but not this time
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>>524218394
they're going to take what's left. Sorry ausbro
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>>524215792
History doesn't repeat Itself, but It often rhymes



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