you dont hate them enough
>>524232948He knows that's the only support he has left. Der Boomer.
>>524232948>muh valuesHomes are supposed to be places to live, not investments.
>>524232948Just let the real estate market crash already.
Lmao
Shameful
This shit will make me Marxist
>>524233398but they have to have value unless you want no ability to buy so essentially communism where everyone gets to live in a commie block and you might get hot water eventually
>>524232948It's coming you cannot stop it.Houses will become for some families and retirement homes for elderly.
>>524232948he won't do shit
Build homes that can only be sold to first time home buyers (individuals) under 45.
I bought a house in 2014 at 28 years of age. Whats the big fuckin deal
>>524233708Retired ISIS warriors with 4 wives and 50 kids live in UK for free fully paid by white taxpayers and (you) know it.
>>524233708>If you don't let me successfully speculate on housing it's COMMUNISM Careful boomer. You're not talking people out of affordable housing, you're talking them into communism.
>>524233856Why sell to poor people for little money when you can sell the same house to rich people for more money?
>>524232948>Trump abandons MAGA for boomerslol
>>524233862I bought a house in 2013 at 27 years of age. Whats the big fuckin deal
>>524232948Come on, man! Trump would never say that. He only cares about his own property values, never about anybody else's. WTF
>>524232948hahahahaha
>>524234128I bought a house in 2027 at the age of 72. What’s the big fuckin deal?
>>524232948Mass immigration fucked the housing market. The olds just capitalized.
>>524233910yeh and under communism that would cease would it? I mean I suppose if the whole country is dirt poor they probably would fuck off and none would arrive. So instead everyone should get a large house that is cheaper than the average car now, yes that really makes sense. What I do know in the UK most people lived in council housing because the UK was dirt poor after WW2 and it wasn't until the late 60's and 70's that people could afford a house. The interest rates in the 80's was 15%. Of course house values have ballooned over what inflation is. But when you see fags crying because they can't buy a house in London (because they want the higher wages there) i have little sympathy for them.
>>524233690it's funny because it shouldn't be this way, capitalists should hate housing bubbles and speculative markets for deprecating markets far more than a marxist.
>>524232948this is generational betrayalhttps://x.com/VladTheInflator/status/2002845545971540360
>>524233972This. If they don’t stop fucking the young. Communism is only a matter of time.
>>524232948Ask your representative to impeach him or teach zoomers how to noscope properly.
>>524233708>Affordable housing is COMMUNISM>Affordable healthcare is COMMUNISM>Affordable transportation is COMMUNISM
>>524234003Well yeah obviously they'll build zero lots with larger homes in preplanned expensive communities, but it's at least a possible solution to help the housing issue
>>524232948It's sad seeing trump like this. He's constantly tired, and slurring his words. Just put the old fuck in a nursing home.
>>524234128>>524234241I inherited my boomer parents' house. What's the big fuckin' deal
>>524233972>affordable housingexcept areas do have more affordable housing. Why is the biggest complainers want that house next to where they work, where they demand higher wages then people who live in more rural areas?
>>524232948>AF Postyou lost, tranny
>>524234383This is my plan. When I inherit it, I’m just going to sell it and leave the country.
>>524233708are you retarded? people want more homes, they would own multiple if they could.Everyone should have access to cheap homes.Now, fuck right off.
>Waaah houses are too expensive, crash the market so I can get one!So myself as a millennial who got a real job and bought a house for myself, I'm just supposed to go underwater on my mortgage because of all the crying pissbabies who spent all their school years smoking pot and partying?>waaaah my student loan is too expensive, forgive them all so I don't have to pay it!So myself as a millennial who got a real degree and paid back my loans before buying a house (or even a car) gets shit fisted for doing the right thing and paying back my loans?I swear to god if either of these things happens I will NEVER pay back another loan in my entire fucking life because the whole system is absolutely FUCKED and only rewards the idiots who can cry and fuck up their lives the worst. If you actually do what they tell you to and get a good job and support yourself YOU GET FUCKED.
>>524234366>gibs me dat house>I earn $100k a year and drive a $90k pickup>gibs me dat house for $20k.When I see the threads on /pol/ from US anons crowing about how much they earn, the expensive pickup and the speedboat they have on the trailer and the expensive AC they got installed whilst Europoors are living in brick housing still - "why you still live in those commie blocks"?kek
>>524232948He'll be looking forever because it doesn't exist. Nobody can afford the current prices, so boomer equity will never be realized at current prices.
>>524234581Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking nigger.
>>524232948lol do boomers even still own most of the homes anymore? i would imagine most homes are owned by younger generations by now
>>524233910They fought hard for Israel they deserve it
>>524232948>Boomers>Not BlackRock JewsFuck off kike, go D&C somewhere else.
>>524234526>Everyone should have access to cheap homes.and then everything else should go down in price in relation to that. Vehicles should be under $10k, that top of the range PC should be $200 at the most. That iPhone that people NEED should be $50. And then of course wages should also be far lower, let's say $10k-$15k. Why is it home ownership is so high in every country the house supply can't keep up? I already said the vast maj of people in the UK didn't even own their home til lthe 60's and 70's, that is when house building really took off. They built the council house after the war tho - essentially the commie blocks.
>>524234660yeh you will be typing out that Europoors thread in the next few days - if not earlier.
>>524232948So hyperinflation?
Oh, so that means the housing market is fucked.
>>524233708>oy vey goyim what do you MEAN you deserve to inherit the country of your forefathers>think of the monthly rent you would be taking from mr.shekkelburg at blackrock you fucking monster
>>524234450The boomers will team up with the jews to fuck you out of it, mark my words. You will get nothing and be happy you sniveling little shit.
>>524234780>Saar, do not you call me jeet or my turdling children that either, saar.
>>524234304That's because people like Trump are basically like full blown socialists or something. They don't care about your rights and don't mind redistributing wealth, as long as it goes into the hands of themselves or their friends.
>>524232948He lost me. His economic policy is objectively evil and exploitative of the poor. He flat out admitted it. I suspected it, but didn't believe it, but here he is on tape admitting it. He doesn't want us to have affordable housing or anything. I will vote Republican in 2028 just to ensure woke is dead, maybe also in 2032, but I will probably flip to Democrat in 2032 or 2036 once woke has died out and they've stopped emphasizing it as an issue. The Democrats need to be "punished" for a few more election cycles so they can figure things out and become electable again.
>>524232948Boomers paid how much in property taxes over the decades? They are entitled to get paid back through selling and not be at a loss.
>>524234296> Of course house values have ballooned over what inflation is.Why is this an “of course” in your mind?If we were progressing as a civilization these old used houses could be going down in value by being replaced with mass produced, higher quality, lower cost superior living spaces.
>>524234837>average income Oh look it's retard. No one uses average income because of how much is skewed by the highest earners, everyone uses median you stupid kike.
>>524234995it's OK Sukdeep, if you get in early you will be able to make lot's of cash seeing as your (((leaders))) have decided to add onto the already massive influx for that pretty small area along the US border. 40m could be triple that amount once the likes of Carney have put his plans in place
kek total brokie zommer death
>>524235214so average house price as well. You will get people asking $500k for a shack in an area and in another you get an actual house for half or even a quarter of that. The same applies in the UK and I don't give a shit about fags crying about housing prices in Londonistan or Poochester especially when they gloat about how much money they earn as a diversity officer for a council.
>>524232948Value is partially subjective, and boomers (against all natural law) assigned an inordinate amount of value to properties in places which have low inherent value. Think RVs, but apply it to half of their property, and also some of them literally have RVs.Nothing can prevent the new generation from realizing where value lies. Time to bite the bullet, old fags.
>>524232948>Inb4 just print more moneyTBD can't come fast enough.
>>524233708>Boomers when you don't want to pay 1.5 million and take a 50 year mortgage (which you can't afford) for their shack they got for 50k and 5 years work.
>>524234003Young people do not want properties in desolate locations where you have to get on a 55mph road just to buy fucking groceries.
>>524233708>communism where everyone gets to live in a commie blockCan anyone explain to me why the only two choices are oligarchy or communism? There is nothing in-between, apparently.
>>524235039>You will get nothing and be happy you sniveling little shit.why you gotta try to bring everyone else down?
>>524235384Fine I will spoonfeed you, you retarded kikehttps://www.statista.com/chart/34534/median-house-price-versus-median-income-in-the-us/The amount of homes that will skew up the average is nothing compared to income
>>524232948Whitepill for all of you: the boomers will all be dead within 5-10 years.
>>524235518That’s not the real crisis. The real crisis will be policing abandoned country clubs against feral niggers and wildlife.
Zoomers dont like driving as much as boomers do and it has created a fundamental disconnect between housing supply and demand that people refuse to accept.
TheDayOfThePillow
>>524232948>if only we could create a supply of houses that cost less than other houses but won't affect the demand for the other housesinject bleach again I see
>>524235518In fact, by assuming that boomers’ properties all have value, you’re perpetuating an un-truth and risking leading political neophytes down the wrong path. If you want boomers to sell at rock bottom prices, make fun of them for being so colossally retarded for purchasing quasi-rural fortresses and flimsy mcmansions in the suburbs.
yes! my 85k investment is now worth 565k! time to se-ACKMUH HEARTMUH Heeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa'.........hhh...hhh.hhhhh>thud
>>524234003Eat a dick boomer, oh wait knowing your generation you've probably sucked 100s.>>524234061Yep just more proof you can't trust that generation. Never had this problem with the WW2 Generation nor Gen X to such an extent. Boomers just hate all non boomers its obvious.
>>524234579You have sick greedy boomer brain. Housing and all other essentials should be very accessible and cheap, not a way for you to extract exponentially increasing debt slavery money out of the youth because you took out a loan first. This is the whole and only point of capitalism and society in the first place. Your greedy Jew attitude is currently in the process of killing the golden goose. We’re hitting the point where there is absolutely no reason for the next people to participate and when that happens, poof, whatever wealth you think you had is entirely gone.
>>524235825Boomers are fundamentally evil.Very very few exceptions.
>>524235695It’s not just zoomers. I had millennial peers who delayed their drivers licenses until they needed a car for college. Universally, boomers and Xers were befuddled at this, while the lone silent generation woman of the group also understood, this was a woman who (as a teenager) took a train from St. Louis to Memphis Tennessee unaccompanied in the 1940s.The world is going to heal, one way or another.
>>524235587And house priced along with wages vary where you are in any country. The UK house price to earnings is 7x - so much higher than the US. And I know if someone was to be earning lowish wages in London then they would not be able to afford most housing there. You are treating housing as if it is like buying something off the shelf - so the same price anywhere in the country. It has never been like that and it never will be.
>>524234598That’s not true, you can just do 1% percent interest rates and 99 year leases. Downsides are the hyperinflation and enslavement but at least the number keeps going up.
>>524235813That'll be 566k please.t. doctor
>>524232948He's deporting beaners, and new H1B pajeets have to pay $100kAlso no more birth tourismHousing demand is going down.Trump is certainly moving in the right direction
>>524232948Why is the FBI spying nigga
You can literally point to Eythl Corp for this. They invented leaded gasoline which caused brain damage in boomers causing them to become unwarrantedly aggressive in most scenerios.
>>524234003Because it isn't sustainable and is causing a complete collapse.
>>524235997None of that is even remotely true
>>524233398Extremely antisemitic post.
>>524235825I'm 32, I took these loans out exactly when all these other millennials did. But the difference is I worked full time, didn't party, never smoked pot, studied hard in a challenging degree and got a good job. I didn't have a girlfriend once throughout all of high school or college because I was busy working or studying. Meanwhile all the faggot socialists were going to parties getting drunk and high and fucking each other every weekend.And now I'm the one with my own house my own car and no student loans while those socialist party people are crying about how it's all so unfair :*( FUCK YOUEasy for you to say "crash the market" when you're not the one losing the $500k you spent a few decades saving up. But I guess that's how it always is with you people. Only ever reward the people who bitch and cry the most.
>>524236241Oh wow the literal incel with no kids got a house.b Thaqt's not the fucking issue you retard.>just dont have kids or do anything but work like a good goyim slave when no one had to not even 20 years ago
Of course the big joke is that people see house pricing in say the 80's "look they were lower in relation to the wages than now" and yet the interest rates were 15%. Then you had the banking crisis where the US property addiction was fuelled on niggers being given mortgages they could not afford and they all defaulted leavi9ng the banks with property. That property was sold at a cheap rate (lowering the costs in that period) and it then being bought up by all and sundry including the likes of BlackRock.
>>524236327I have a house and land and now I'm harassed by the FBIThey hired my brother to spy on me too
>>524236304>that's not the issue retardI don't give a fuck about YOU having a house or what you have to do to get it. My issue is that you want to take it FROM ME faggot.
>>524236304>20 years agohmm you mean when niggers were given high interest mortgages because they are niggers and then they all defaulted on them? Ah yes what a utopia.
>>524235935>buying something off the shelfYeah that's actually how it is here. The majority of homes are cookie cutter copies, though they differ by community, made by the same 4 or 5 companies and the quality of their new builds is shit at best because every inspector used by the builders wants to keep making easy money from them so they are always favorable. Yes it's a rigged system that forces you to pay for your own inspector but they make you sign a contract that you won't do that until after it's sold. And of course prices are going to vary but that doesn't change reality, median income across the board is not keeping pace with home cost regardless of location.
>>524236411Yeah yeah we get it. You're a greedy nihilist. It's why you wont have kids either and will die alone. Enjoy your cheap ass SEA whores to cope with your failed youth
>>524236241>Only ever reward the people who bitch and cry the most....he bitched and cried
>>524236433I guess I should say 30 years ago since that first housing crash was completely organic . No bank fuckery.
>>524236241>He spent over $500k during a sellers marketJesus fucking Christ my dude, worst mistake of your entire life. You'll never have that value ever again.
>>524236439But the house isn't the same even if physically the same because of the location and that has always been the case. But go ahead, buy that same cookie cutter house in Detroit, but that burnt out body outline on the front lawn might give an indication of why that is $5k and yet that same house without the burnt out nigger imprint on the front lawn might demand 100X that in a nicer area.
>>524236241There is always something missing from these stories. I too have many things, but all those can be attributed to a long list of advantages and sheer luck that most people in my class did not have. You are just in denial of, quite literally, your own privilege, shitlord. Then again, you're also a whiny incel so maybe having your own shit box is basically a consolation prize.
>>524236458lol Yep people like you are EXACTLY why I am this way. You niggers hedonistically partied your way through school not giving a fuck about the future "cuz imma make it big mang imma make a milli imma be a yung money million-aire."People like you called me a loser back then. Now I'm the one with a house and well on my way to that "milli" in net worth and you still have the gall to call me a "loser" while you're broke and homeless and demand that all my stuff be stolen so that you can have it.
>>524234003Se reason price gouging ia illegal during an emergency
>>524232948He can keep looking because it doesn’t exist. He knows it too.
>>524233690It makes me into a monarchist
>>524236241I own millions in real estate and I rent the residential ones out at around my actual costs to nice stable young families. (I make way more than enough by fully exploiting my corporate tenants on commercial properties.) The price of housing and other basic needs must become more easily attainable for the sake of everyone. We’re supposed to be increasing everyone’s wellbeing through productive economic growth that increases the prosperity of everyone here. It works amazingly well when your society isn’t full of sick greedy selfish corrupt assholes cheering on scarcity and deprivation. Exploiting scarcity and deprivation to make the already wealthy even richer is not a healthy way forward for anyone and we’re approaching a breaking point where everything gets destroyed by this type of thinking.
>>524236559I bought in 2020 with a 2% APR. Did you assume I just bought my house yesterday? But I guess you'll just come back and gawk and awe>OMG YOU BOUGHT IN 2020 WORST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFEAlways some fence sitter on from the peanut gallery to shit on you no matter what decision you make.>>524236637I grew up in a trailer in a small farming town. My mom was a school teacher and my dad a teller at a bank. Maybe the only "advantages" I had are a higher than average IQ and a dad who beat me if I didn't study in school.After graduating I went into Field Service and spent 90% of my life living in hotel rooms traveling for work while saving up. Is that "luck" or is that an exchange?
>>524236241>studied hard in a challenging degree and got a good jobCongratulations, you just ruled out about 95% of the population. All the other bullshit you're doing barely contributes to your financial security compared to simply having a well paying job which most people won't have access to because yes, they just aren't as smart as you, but clearly you still aren't smart enough to understand that you shouldn't have to be in the top 5% to afford to have a house, a wife, and 3 kids. The insane kike system we all live under has been constructed to impoverish us so we don't reproduce, and being one of the house nigger functionaries they need to perpetuate the system isn't something you should be proud of or pretend everyone else is simply too lazy to do. They either can't or don't have the same lack of morality that you do, and that doesn't justify keeping them destitute in debt slavery until they die alone and miserable.
>>524233862The big deal is that if they didnt buy before 2018 their entire financial future, even at similar data points to you is so much worse than at the same age its sickening. I like my house, we've redone a bunch of shit to make it nice. But after refinancing at 3 and a hook just after the pandemic it would cost like 1200 more per mo. if we sold to somebody tomorrow for them to own the same house.
>>524236637How is it then that the US still has lower house prices compared to the UK even accounting from 20-30 years ago in the UK when they were affordable? The US has lower gas (petrol/diesel) prices than the UK as we pay most of it in tax and yet you complain when it is a higher price and yet still massively cheaper than the UK? I think what it comes down to is you actually do love to gloat about how much you earn, how much better off you are than those Europoors ("oh they have a chip on their shoulder because they are poor - lolz). So what you do is then take the wages of the people flipping burgers and then pin that as if it is the average worker and they can't afford a $400k house. Oh and your dad or grandfather magically could have flipped burgers in the old days and afford that same $400k house and feed a family of 5 wit ha brand new car outside whenever they wanted. Yes, we have all seen the Hollywood sensationalism of the US as if the 50's and 60's was some sort of utopia. Of course it had nothing to do with propaganda and the Soviet Union putting out their own propaganda.
>>524234399>where they demand higher wages then people who live in more rural areas?Those are expensive too now. Your >hurr you just want a downtown mansion!Gaslighting fools absolutely no one. We all grew up in homes that our parents paid $50k for which are now valued at $500k+, despite wages not moving, student loans going up +1000%, every employment opportunity being a competition with the entire world, and about 1/100th the freedom our grandparents had. There is literally nothing you can say to spin this modern faggot jewish world as being a remotely equitable living experience. It's safe to assume you're probably debtmaxxed and reliant on further housing speculation to not get entirely rekt. In some ways I don't blame you, as you're yet another bagholder reliant on sucking the multi-level ponzi scheme's titties, but it doesn't change the fact.
>>524232948Trump and most boomers are child trafficking scum!No one ever asks what happened to the disappeared children. Here's what. They were taken to the Deep Underground Bases where they were held hostage for adrenachrome extraction and tortured so that their blood has fresh adrenaline in it. So teams of special forces soldiers like the US Navy SEAL David Goggins led missions into the Deep Bases to rescue or neutralize the adrenachrome slaves (put them out of their misery as they had become like rabid zombies due to years of satanic torture rituals.https://youtube.com/shorts/K105jsI076Q?si=nPYvMm5FXLTfXDaUNavy SEAL David Goggins and his team returning to base from a rescue operation to save the MK-ULTRA adrenachrome children. "We lost a lot of good men today"
>>524232948JUST GET INTO THE CHINESE CONTAINERI NEED YOUR GRANDPAS VOTE
>>524234399>Why is the biggest complainers want that house next to where they work,Yeah, what kind of asshole wants a house within good commuting distance of the job he can get?
>>524234399>Higher wages than in rural areasThere's no jobs in rural areas. Most of The US's rural economy was based on one-factory towns during The Boomers' childhoods, and they all shut down when China became the world's factory.
>>524236950You missed out tho. You should have been a nigger and gone to university doing some ebony history degree and took out a $100k loan at high interest and then a few years later fags on /pol/ could then start threads saying how you should not have to pay back that $100k, just as if you had taken out a subprime mortgage in the 90's and early 2000's - you should keep that house because - well you should.
>>524236654Why are you equating your house going down in value with people wanting to take your house from you? You would still own the same house for the same payment that you don’t mind paying. You’re thinking from spite and greed. It’s unhealthy. Please reconsider. This is the boomer mentality that is going to doom us all and it’s making you miserable even though you’re in a perfectly good situation.
>>524236950> I bought in 2020 with a 2% APRDo you at least recognize at all that this interest rate was govt welfare to given to wealthy people? Govt welfare that young people didn’t have the chance to benefit from, but now have to suffer from. I don’t begrudge you for profiting off it, but try to at least have some appreciation and recognition. It’s not a healthy way for the system to work.
>>524234296You literally dont know what communism is and use it as a buzzwords to describe things you dont like. Why stop at communism? Might as well call affordable housing woke and trans while you are at it.
>>524234579"I got mine" is not a sufficient defense against systemic collapse. No amount of shouting>I earned it!will get you out of a shithole if America becomes one.
>>524237149because like the billionaire class cycling their securities and leveragable-assets, home-owners want their home value to rise so they can HELOC ad infinitum and live on creditBasically everyone wants to be a nigger
>>524237132The average DEI officer salary is in the six figures.
>>524236865>We’re supposed to be increasing everyone’s wellbeingSure okay do whatever you want to get other people into houses, as long as I'm made whole right along with them. Why should they get some benefit that I'm not allowed to have? If they can spend a few trillion in whatever plan they have baked up then the least they could do is to buy me out. If the government came back and bought me out of my house for my equity and forgave the remaining mortgage then I'd be absolutely pleased. I wouldn't even ask for my interest payments back, that's on me.But I know something like that will never happen. The middle class will continue to be gutted so the poor and wealthy can suck it all up.You're a business owner. How about we reappropriate your business to benefit everyone else. "We're glad you built it up for us, it's ours now, fuck off."
>>524233708>unless you want no ability to buyyoung people already can't buy dingbat. I might vote straight DSA from here on out just because I want the boomers destroyed
>>524237034>student loansAnd there it is. Something that does not ned to be taken and yet was and then fags want to be able to get out of not paying for all the parties they went to via that money. It is like when idiots max out credit cards and then take out another credit card and that is for the "essentials" like the latest phone, those $200 sneakers and all the other high fashion clothes that they deem "essential".
>>524237149You hit it on the head. It's not about them paying more or less, it's about them not wanting to feel like they made a poor investment decision or that their market timing skills were lacking. Their mortgage payment wouldn't change in a housing crash, but they would still seethe watching you buy a home for -40% the cost they did. We're surrounded by total fucking bucket crabs Equally as retarded, none of these people seem to understand that you need to buy a new place when you eventually sell, and their final bid price will actually financially harm them more when inflation is calculated via notary fees, sales taxes, and property taxes.
>>524236954Find whatever solution works, but it shouldn't come at my expense. That's what all these people want to do because it's the easiest most obvious solution.>Just crash the market!>Just reappropriate the housing!Find a solution but don't make the "functionaries" suffer for it because obviously we're a little more important to a "functioning" society than whatever else these people are doing.>says I lack morality>wants to steal the fruits of my laborOkay mr socialist.
>>524236994Are you retarded? Why are you acting like American posts all come from the same person? Have you ever considered that posts from rich Americans will say different things than posts from poor americans?
>>524232948Translation: a solution that doesn't require a huge financial crash (which would lead to lower property prices).
>>524237118>I got the job in a city that has higher house prices, it was just a cohencidence that happened. Hmm, those higher wages just were too tempting, after all you went to university for that degree and you demand those higher wages even if the actual work is far far less than someone actually doing a worthwhile job. At least that student loan forgiveness the liberals got for you is working - right?
>>524237149>>524237368>>524237441If you INTENTIONALLY crash a market through government intervention then yes you are stealing.Do you agree the government is stealing from your bank account by printing infinite dollars?
>>524237432There what is? Oh, "student loan" is another one of your trigger words to start moral grandstanding on (I have $0.0 in loans). Loans of which boomers paid off working a few summers shoveling dog shit in the 70s while studying.>eerhmm nobody FORCED you to take out the loan, chud>nobody FORCED anyone to get vaxxed, chud (we'll just fire you teehee xD)>nobody is FORCING you to buy shelter that isn't a cabin in the boreal forest and 18hr drive to work, chud Your comments are all over the place BTW. On one hand, you're bitching about Americans flexing on you for being a yuropoor. On the other, you're simping for every pillar of globohomo that has made Europe shit. You're exactly the type of bucket crab I was talking about. Your only regret is not having more money than burger flags on here, because you're the most selfish bastard alive.
>>524237131That is interesting because anons on here say living anywhere near a city is cancer (niggers and other subhumans) and more rural is the only way to live. So how is it where all the high paying work is also where niggers and spics live?
>>524234304Lol and according to whose fantasy is that?
>>524234579The options are not:> pay back your loans> stay poor for the rest of your life & never reproduce while competing with shitskin diversity hires in your fieldInstead the options include those above, and these:> become a 5th column saboteur for CHYNUH in the coming war> leave, marry a Brazilian, stiff the USA> live in a commune with other poorfags & work under the table while growing your own food> use your white collar skills to become a highly specialized criminal> make porn to sell to your kids> sell drugs, also to your kidsYou need a way to get these people to buy in to civilization, otherwise they will be a modern version of ex-Confederate bushwhackers in the late 1800s.
>>524232948>AI Overview>Baby Boomers (born 1946-1964) are a significant but aging demographic, making up around 13-20% of the global/US population less than a fifth of the population, own most of the homesliteral seething retards
>>524237432>fags want to be able to get out of not payingkind of like the giant banks that didn't want to pay for their bad bets in 2008? Amazing how people can't see that one leads to the other, people saw that shit and of course are saying where's mine?
>>524232948>bro just crash real estate for us we have sociology degrees
>>524237329>will get you out of a shithole if America becomes one.>becomeskekiest of keks
>>524234579>waaaah I took out a loan on an asset that I betted on perpetually appreciating. You think you having a home is more important than me winning that bet? You would have only been able to go to school and save up enough to buy a house if you had udders to nibble on during early adulthood. Painting this picture of you building from nothing is jew boomer propaganda.But to answer your question, yes, you going under on your mortgage is a price worth paying if it means housing stability for millions of people.
>>524237416People didn't buy house when they were of zoomers age in any era. You actually think people have always been able to start their first job and then sign up for that mortgage with any pick of housing they wanted? People bought houses that went with not only what they earned but also savings. So you always have the smaller homes which are cheaper and then people sell to then go up the property ladder. People also expect to get an increase in wages as their career dictates. No one is ging a 18 or 20 year old or even a fresh out of university similar wages to someone who has been working a job for 10-15 years.
if you bought your house to live in, it doesn't make any difference what the hypothetical value is, except for taxation purposes. Then a lower value is better If you bought a house as a speculative asset, the same rule applies here as with all speculative assets: risk is inherent, past performance does not guarantee future results
>>524237647>Do you agree the government is stealing from your bank account by printing infinite dollars?Yes, it is also why homes are going to infinity. Homes never actual went up in value in the true sense, they actually went down in true material value. These bungalows now selling for $600k all have foundational cracks, water damage, insufficient pipes, aged roof shingles, etc..., but are 10x more expensive than what they were built for. We just imported third worlders to cram in and printed fiat monopolybuxx to devalue your labour value. It also wouldn't be an "intentional" crash. It's more like "once we stop filling the balloon with air, it will get blasted to pieces". Getting fed rates to even 8%, which would still be very low by the standards that boomers lived through, would utterly obliterate mortgages and trigger a housing crash 5x more violent than 2007. The modern financial environment is more like just sniffing meth 7 days a week to max out productivity, future consequences be damned. Or redlining your car to get to a destination faster
>>524236241Look boomer, violence is an option in a civil war, which is what you're advocating for. The enemy gets a vote on any action you take, and a drone with a Molotov is like $200.Just show a little solidarity with other Americans and you can keep everything.
>>524234579I'm not invested in this conversation that much but the "i suffered so you should do" mentality is so tiring I genuinely hope your life ends up a zero sum gameI've worked hard to where I got and if people younger than me could get to where I am easier that genuinely just makes me happyI feel like I'm starting to get the vitriolic boomer hate
>>524237558Why would poor Americans be able to buy things that people with more money can? Your whole country is based on being able to succeed in life so you can afford better things in life. Do you think actual homeless people, people on drugs should all be given homes? Since when has the US had a social system like Europe? Why is if given the chance most Americans no matter rich or poor would stay in America and yet if they moved to wherever they wanted in Europe they would turn that down? In other words do you think being dirt poor is better in the US or having zero money and living in say the UK with it's benefits system? Oh and that housing is going to be much more expensive in the UK if they did get a job. But isn't it funny how people do buy housing here despite the lack of housing?
>>524237903what the fuck are you babbling about? My parents were 26 and 27 when they had me and they owned a house when they did. It was small meaning unfinished basement, unfinished attic, 2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen and bathroom that's it, and needed work, but it was in a close in suburb of a major city. They paid $70k for it. Show me where that deal exists today. It doesn't.
>>524238129I feel like what you're saying makes sense if things like working hard = more money and the most baselines of needs are reliably met with moderate effort
>>524238025I promise if it gets to that point I'll liquidate everything, burn down the house, buy as much **** as I can afford into a truck and visit the next "Community Reappropriation Committee" meeting. I wouldn't have anything left to live for at that point anyways.
>>524237696US Cities are built in districts, and some districts are super rich, and some districts are super poor. A long time ago all the rich people pushed the poor people (Minorities and such) away until they were living far enough away that they didn't have to see them.When Anons talk about how moving to a city to get a job is hard, it's because living in the Super-Rich areas is Super-Expensive, and it's hard for anyone to do that unless they're earning a really crazy amount of money. So instead they have to live in the poor area (Where the brown people are) and travel to the rich part of town for work.
>>524237807The system will always be protected. The gov has no money and can only print money and sell bonds and they need those "people" to buy them. They also borrow from those same people and it keeps the system going. Now of course you can speculate on if all that away how the world would exist, so basically all money is taken out, no wages. I guess that is what the "AI" revolution is all about, taking most of the work away and people being given enough to live on - basically a credit system.
>>524238045>if people younger than me could get to where I am easier that genuinely just makes me happyThis post has been red flagged and you've been deducted -170 palantir points. To restore your ability to buy synth-meat or bug-based protein, please write the following >we need a good draft! It'll toughen the young 'uns up!>I got mine! Shoulda been born 15 years sooner!>Israel has the right to defend itself!Failure to comply will garnish the next 40 years of your staked collateral. Do you understand?
>>524233398Why? Why shouldn't your home be what you put most of your money into? It's part of your community. It enhances the value of your local area. It's what shows you actually care about the area in which you live. Why shouldn't it be an investment? Why sold your investments instead be kike-drivem financial instruments or imaginary value crypto or shiny rocks?
>>524237401How is "I got left holding the bag because I bought when the market was at max" the same as "you're stealing my house"?Lol enjoy watching yourcasset depreciate.Also letting the market deflate isn't government intervention, it's the opposite.
>>524238349The houses get more valuable because the land increases in value, not because anyone works on them. That's why it's speculation. You buy something, wait, sell it for more than you bought it, profit. Nothing was done but you got paid anyway.
>>524233398Yes but also there is really no way to fix the problem with the complete and total destruction of the world economy and I know people here will say "good let's do it" but it would not be as cool or interesting as you think.
>>524238166inb4 anons post zillow listings from Gary, Indiana
>>524237647>If you INTENTIONALLY crash a market through government intervention then yes you are stealingDude housing only inflates in value BECAUSE of government intervention. If the government stops intervening via Black Rock & infinity shitskins, it collapses.You are the parasitic socialist, not me.
>>524234003Because if you keep doing that young people will just burn everything down and then you'll have nothing. Markets are great. Literally everyone loves a good market. But markets only come to exist when there's a civilization capable of creating space for them; if you want markets, you have to nourish the civilizations that make them possible. This isn't a black and white issue. You can have percentage divisions of residential capacity in a city under different rules to make space for mcmansions, historical, speculative, commieblock, young family row homes, etc., but if we continue down 100% of housing being goyslave special, people will just flip the table and you'll have nothing.
>>524238383Bagholder psychology is a hell of a drug. The people who spent $150k on btc of course feel cheated, backstabbed, and that any market volatility is of course manipulated. You probably saw what happened to the people warning them to sell at ATH, and how they were relentlessly mocked. Only upwards market value is organic of course. Market corrections are all "government interventions". The economy waxing and waning, with spikes and dips, is all commie propaganda. Number go up only. Econ 101 is socialism
>>524237595>>524237131>>524238237Any other canned boomer talking points?
>>524238232Your projection that everyone who is failing must be some drunk/high lazy retard that pissed away their life is just wrong. There's too much failure to launch going on with younger people for it to be the case. We're reaching the point where it's undeniable that the cost of making it has ran away from people, and there's no ladder up because it's entirely based on the super rich giving the poor people an actual slice of the pie.The price of a home isn't reflective of their real value any longer, it's artificially high because megacorporations are buying them up and nobody is able to compete when the youths aren't earning enough to live with the jobs that they're allowed to work (Which is mostly gig work, hiring freezes are rampant and layoffs are already happening)The only real option is that these artificially inflated cars, houses, etc, all drop in value, or minimum wage gets bumped up to nearly $40 a hour and corporations are forced to hire people. That probably won't happen though because these same corporations basically run the government.Zoomers would buy houses if they could, they'd pay loans if they could, they'd get a job if they could. But they can't.It's not a matter of being lazy, they're doing what they can. It's just impossible to get ahead.
Boomers cannibalized all following generations How fucking Grim
>>524238166>paid $70k for a piece of shityeh I can see the problem right there. I paid £58k for the house I am living in and that was in 1999. It could be worth about £200k now, but probably say £180k. why exactly should a house stay the same price? My house was built in 1967 and cost just over £3k. Now if you want to go on about how much housing goes up then explain how a house is £3k and 30 years later it has massively increased in price and yet I had no problem paying for the house and i paid the mortgage off in just a few years and all on a wage of not even £20k a year at that time. And to add to that I know for a fact more people today are home owners than in 1967. Are you really trying to say someone earning say £30k would not be able to afford a mortgage on a £200k house? People were paying 15% interest rates in the 1980's, interest rates today are nearly a third of that.
>>524238615Your understanding of what is and isn't a boomer statement is literally opposite of the reality.There are not boomers out here saying there's no jobs in rural areas, they're pretending that there's lots of jobs and just assuming everyone's lazy.
>>524238232Why would you not have anything left to live for if someone else has a house too?How does another person doing well diminish you?You are the most evil person I have ever seen.
>>524232948Liquidate and LiquifyGÖYLENT GREEN IS BOOMERS!!
>>524238527>Dude housing only inflates in value BECAUSE of government intervention.While that's not 100% true, it's reasonably true in the vast majority of cases but very especially so in the current housing market.A combination of environmentalist restrictions that drive up the cost of new construction & NIMBY dipshits that collectively push to keep any new construction away from their general area. Let's be real here, it's the boomers obviously. Specifically the boomers through AARP & their local politicians. This plus the government refusing to let the market suffer a desperately needed recession or even a crash to let the prices go down, instead propping it up/reinflating the bubble, I.e. market manipulation through govt force & corruption, and you have a recipe for wildly overpriced units & property in general.
>>524234276False. It was the 2008 financial crisis and bailouts.Half of the olds should have been foreclosed in 2010.Immigration is a secondary effect. Prices are primarily driven by supply and the bailouts let all the Boomers hodl until they die.
>>524237052This is all I want! Can't I just have this?
>>524232948How much does it cost to build a house there? A decent 4bed 2bath is $300k + Land here, so yeah, just the build
>>524238204The biggest fear with people who have bought a house (well they put down a deposit of say 5-10% and then take out a mortgage on the rest) is that they lose their job and lose the house. So once they have got the house it is all about maintaining the work to pay for it. But if housing didn't really have any value, then why would anyone really be buying a house when you could simply have every house rented and you just pay more rent for the house you live in? Whilst I agree there should not be the stupid speculation and to buy up properties to drive up prices and the rents in a given area there has to be a value in a property or it's simply a rent you are "buying" and you might as well have rented it anyway if you get zero increase in the price.
>>524238707I'm linking him to your posts as a response, ya dingus
>>524238692So you made 20k and hot a house for 58k and can't see why it's worse for people to have to pay 200k for the same house on 30k salary? Really? It's not that complicated
>>524238945Oh sorry then Anon, keep being cool.>>524238794It's a complex that people develop when they're neglected/abused by their parents. It's an effect similar to food aggression in dogs. If you talk to most people who have this kind of mindset it's usually revealed that they had a rough upbringing based around getting into hard labor at a very young age and their dad beating the shit out of them.You'll see boomers and got-mine attitudes on /pol/ frequently show pasts that are like this if you pry about it.
>>524233398It’s not the “value” he’s looking to preserve. It’s the Jew debt slavery he’s preserving and they don’t want the purchase price to be too small otherwise people will be able to accrue generational wealth again.The entire US consumer economy revolves around debt and wage slavery.
>>524239104>It's a complex that people develop when they're neglected/abused by their parents. It's an effect similar to food aggression in dogs. If you talk to most people who have this kind of mindset it's usually revealed that they had a rough upbringing based around getting into hard labor at a very young age and their dad beating the shit out of them.>You'll see boomers and got-mine attitudes on /pol/ frequently show pasts that are like this if you pry about it.Great post.
>>524239193>The entire US consumer economy revolves around debt and wage slavery.This. It's like social media, you're not the user you're the product. Same with US home "ownership", you're the product, specifically all the payment streams your "ownership" generates
>>524232948Let's give trump the benefit of doubt. How is it possible to solve this without housing prices going down?
>>524238794See my post here >>524237541I don't care about other people doing well. But if it comes directly at my expense then I'll have a problem. And so far the only solutions I'm seeing are "let us have-nots take from those who have.">>524238383>>524238592Like you people enjoy repeating so much, "housing is not an investment, it's a necessity." So I bought my necessity when I could afford it and now people want to punish me for being able to afford it.Is your suggestion to me to keep all my value in gold while hoveling in a cheap apartment and demanding death to landlords and the government should give me a free house?
>>524235853Can confirm
>>524238909Depends on where you're at. Some places let you do the construction yourself, but you still need the permits and build to code. Where I'm at it is legal to build the entire home yourself. Basically the cost of materials, or roughly $30-40k for a modest 1 story, 4 bed 2 bath at ~2100 sq ft.
>>524239285Well to drop prices you need to:> deport shitskins> force black rock & other REITs to sell single family homes & maybe apartments tooFrom there I guess you offer existing homeowners a refinance deal at a much lower interest rate, so they aren't screwed by deflation.Losers in this case would be the banks, so lmao
>>524234579Hypothetically Trump could solve the problem by getting resident-owned housing to track inflation (making it a strict store of value rather than speculatory, which is completely reasonable) while inflating median wage to like $250k (closing the 1971 wage-productivity gap) and building non-competitive housing for proles (commieblocks, there's ways to do it kino), which would only hurt kikes and keep people like you and me from going underwater (I bought at 26 in 2021, yes you can hate me my interest rate is less than 3%). But yes it is worth it. I am willing to go underwater if it means helping my peers out of this kikefucked mess. Being underwater doesn't matter if you, you know, are using your house as a domicile not an investment vehicle and simply live in it. If you're a responsible debtor, as you claim and I am, you wouldn't BOND yourself to something you weren't prepared to follow through on. You're actually not entitled to a convenient and early exit of your BOND OBLIGATION through asset appreciation. That's the other shoe of getting to purchase a six figure asset without working for it ahead of time. If the solution were to involve wage deflation on the other hand, that's a completely different story and would need to involve consideration of people like you and me. But still that's the nightmare risk we accepted taking out loans.
>>524238794>Why would you not have anything left to live forAnd to address this point - because I sacrificed any social life age 16-22 working and studying through school while the party kids mocked me.Then I got a job and traveled 300 nights a year for work living in hotels saving money to be able to pay off my loans and buy a house. There is absolutely no having a social life or any chance of a girlfriend or wife when you travel 300 nights/yr. All the while, the party kids continued to mock me.Now I have something and the party kids STILL mock me calling me an incel but now they demand that I lose everything I have because they don't have it and they want it.
>>524237416What makes you think whatever destroys the boomers won't also be used against you?
>>524232948Me and my Chinese wife own 50 McMansions in China.
>>524239474It probably will I don't give a shit anymore been beaten down my whole life I guarantee I can take it more than the bootstraps larpers
>>524238980Maybe I could have gone back in time and bought the house for $3k then? But curious how a higher percentage of people buy houses now than they did when that house was £3k. But then again the same applies to how many have cars now than they did 50-60 years ago and how people used to have to rent appliances because they were so expensive and have things on HP (hire purchase) for the same reason. Being "poor" in the UK now is simply not having the earnings of someone deemed not poor. In the past being poor meant you didn't have hot water, you had a toilet in the back garden in a WC shed and you had to go down to the phone box to make a call. Those "boomers" had that life and I am Gen X. I think the rose tinted glasses of zoomers of the past are of course of people who don't want to face the facts whilst they type out their crying emoji's on their iPhone 17.
>>524239326Look dawg, the number of people who don't own homes outnumbers those who do. If you want armed conflict, you'll get it good & hard.You want to hold student loan debtors to their agreements to pay off their debt, then you do the same after your house deflates to $50k while you paid $500k.Turnabout is fair play.And asci said, without govt intervention in the form of blsckrock, loams for shitskins, & infinity immigrants, $50k is the default market value give or take 25k. Youvare the bagholder who bought an inflated asset; man up & payvit or join us & vote for national socialism.
>>524239430You said earlier that I am the most evil person you had ever seen, but all I'm looking for is some equality in whatever deal this is going out.I said this exact line earlier ITT v v v>Why should they get some benefit that I'm not allowed to have? If they can spend a few trillion in whatever plan they have baked up then the least they could do is to buy me out. If the government came back and bought me out of my house for my equity and forgave the remaining mortgage then I'd be absolutely pleased. I wouldn't even ask for my interest payments back, that's on me.And here part of your solution is "offer existing homeowners a refinance deal at a much lower interest rate so they don't get screwed." That's the point I'm trying to make. All of these plans people have are coming directly at the expense of people like me.
>>524239448Boo-hoo nigga, sucks to be you, quit your complaining, we don't care.Doesn't feel very nice to be on the receiving end, does it?
>>524239619>Look dawg, the number of people who don't own homes outnumbers those who do. If you want armed conflict, you'll get it good & hard.Is that why Vietnam happened then because people didn't own the housing?
>>524234776It should really be the other way around. Consumer gadgets like flagship smartphones should be considerable fractions of house prices, like 5-15k. That would solve our problems. The issue is that kikes running our economy will never accept it because the goal is to funnel wealth through consumer nonsense so they can middlemanmax and that would decimate consumer spending. Housing is unaffordable because kikes want your goybucks flowing through endless slopmachines not building wealth, and for no other reason. The various "causes" are simply means for that goal.
>>524239326Nobody is trying to punish you and it's been explained numerous times that a housing crash would not only do zero harm to you, you would actually save money in property taxes. You are also not owed guaranteed returns on your investments, and you do not believe in free markets if you think otherwise. You should consider yourself lucky that housing dropping in value is actually the one form of investment that has a net zero negative impact on your life at all, unlike stocks, bonds, or precious metals. But you seem totally married to watching green numbers on a screen, and are clearly demoralized beyond redemption
>>524239747>Doesn't feel very nice to be on the receiving end, does it?lol Receiving end of the same ridicule I've received my entire life? Nah I used that as hate fuel to get to where I am now so I can tap dance in my home while the pissbabies cry.But no you've convinced me at this point owning a home is more of a liability because of so I will be selling it tomorrow and moving all my cash into gold and ammunition and ANFO and holing up in some cheap rented out place while I make demands that those who have more than me should be providing for me. See you on the other side brother!
>>524239653>And here part of your solution is "offer existing homeowners a refinance deal at a much lower interest rate so they don't get screwed." That's the point I'm trying to make. All of these plans people have are coming directly at the expense of people like me.Well the refinance could be negative interest, for one. As in Black rock pays you interest, lmao. Then you make minimum payments.Or no property taxes or school taxes on existing assets non-corporate owned homes.And maybe the govt could offer you student loan debt from some chick, and you can marry her then hold the debt over her to keep her faithful.
>>524239537So boomers fucked you over (it wasn't them) making it hard to afford a home and you're idea is to burn it all down to fuck over everyone who comes after you.I get being pissed off about it. You're totally justified with that. But boomers didn't do this and completely destroying the property market will only shovel the rest of the land into the hands of the people that did. Corrupt property appraisers did this. Property speculators did this. House flippers had more effect on current prices than the generic "boomer". And not by a small margin either. You ever see those shows with idiots renovating a home and celebrating flipping the house at obscene profits? Yeah, those aren't boomers.
>>524239554The poverty issues isn't a material problem based on the fact that people are spoiled now that they expect to not have to use a shithouse or the fact that people used to not have phones. It's a matter of being able to work towards something and finding it reasonable that your labor can result in a better life for yourself and those you love.Currently, people work a full schedule and their quality of life never increases at all, they don't have enough to save towards anything, or hope for something better. The fact that they live paycheck to paycheck gives the impression that they'll put in all this effort and die likely worse off than they started.Do you think those boomers would put in all the work they did if they thought that they'd go home and have the same number in their bank account at the end of the month, every month? No, probably not. The only reason they'd do something like that is because they had a family and kids, who they can put their hope in and believe that their labors are at least getting put towards making sure they grow up and have a nice life.Zoomers don't have that though, few have families, they are not being properly incentivized. They go to work for 40 hours, come home, and their lives are basically the same quality but they have no more free time. Where's the carrot? Is the carrot "Not starving" ? That's the motivation for a serf and a slave. At least serfs and slaves had assured work & job security, zoomers don't even have that.
>>524239869I would simply red flag you & watch my enemies (you & cops) fight it out.
>>524239987*laughs in zoning laws, building material hyperinflation, safety regulations, and middlemen fees*Nothing personal, self-sufficient man.
>>524239554>But curious how a higher percentage of people buy houses now than they didWell I don't know about the UK but young people in the US are not buying houses at the same rate as prior generations. >iPhone 17ah the old they waste their money on avocado toast argument. Maybe they do. Those boomers also had an ethnically homogeneous country, what price tag do you put on that? I'm also Gen X and I don't think it was quite as drastic as you make out, at least here in America it's more the GI Generation or Silents that had the no indoor plumbing upbringing. One of my own grandparents of that generation grew up on a poor ass dirt farm like that.
>>524235092Idk man rightfags seem to be invoking identity politics quite a bit
>>524232948Has it ever occurred to rich boomers that they can own three $200K homes instead of one worth $600K?
>>524235695It's depressing. There could be a very reasonable middle ground where living doesn't demand a car from walkability and transit but driving is imminently accessible for errands/road trips/freedom/fun for those who want (most people would like it as an option), but this retardation of all driving all the time is generating backlash to just nuke cars. It doesn't have to be all cars or no cars. Living without could be made pleasant while adding a car is kept to a reasonable cost increase. There's nothing with the average car per household being 0.8-1.2 instead of 2.3 or whatever the fuck. We've just decided to not have nice things. Japan has glorious trains, financially sustainable urban and intercity expressways, and vibrant car culture. We're just retarded.
>>524239987Actually most Boomers started in suburbs which were literally mass amounts of housing subsidized by the government to make getting a home more affordable in areas where they needed more people to work factory jobs.We're not talking about retirement third or fourth homes, we're talking about the very first home people buy. Reasonable single-family units.
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>>524233398Israel wants the goyim children enslaved for eternity to their money scam.They don't want anyone to even think about it.
>>524239987I don’t know a single boomer who built their own home. Purchasing a “new build” and picking a few modifications like a deck expansion doesn’t count.
>>524240149The insane part is the people who own multiple properties are the only ones who meaningfully would get hit from deflation. So owning a single property and wanting the number to keep climbing is shooting yourself in the foot. Your fees and taxes go up with property values, and if you only own one, you still need to buy something after.
>>524239967Let's say those $400k houses in 25-30 years are now $800k houses so the "boomers" are actually the ones complaining they could not buy a house say 10 years earlier in say 2015. first time buyers are not buying $400k houses. But you can look at any era and people would make the excuse that houses are not affordable. Why is it the home ownership is higher now then when those boomers parents were alive and had that young family? You certainly could not even blame spics and poos and other shit skins for that level of home ownership in the 50's and 60's. Maybe it was down to the lack of availability of mortgages and lending practices and also maybe housing stock availability. But certainly the population has risen in most western countries to scupper housing stock. The UK has a severe lack of housing partly due also due to planning regs and land availability as green field sites are generally off limits till they are not.
>>524232948wait what he comes up with. thats just a spoiler. obviously drumpf wont give you a free house, retard.
>>524236241Has it occurred to you that requiring all of that effort just for you to have a stake in your community is retarded? You're awfully stupid for someone that completed a challenging degree. All of that work should have netted you a bougie house, a vacation home you rent out (providing it your peers for reasonable compensation), and maybe a boat or a plane. What you worked for was awarded to retards at the glue factory in the past, dipshit. You're happy to get crumbs off the table while your brothers starve, when they should be getting full and you drunk on wine.
>>524233708>I hate it when the "poors" demand shelter
>>524240325Indians own more property in London than Brits. Imported wealthy foreigners do a good job inflating those stats. Your tax dollars paying for Nigerians to live for free also helps keep that number up on the other end. Pull up a stat on ethnic white brits' property ownership rates vs boomers and lets see the only chart that matters
>>524240306Property taxes (so like council tax in the UK) don't go up really anymore than they always did because all property if put in bands and it takes into account any given price rises in a year. As all the property in theory should go up by the same percentage then the property tax bands those houses are in stay the same. The taxes will rise due to inflation just like the council tax does. But sure if a property goes up in value and sneaks into the next tax band then you are paying higher taxes. But incidentally people have older cars that have higher CO2 emissions and are paying far higher car tax than newer models - although new cars also have a purchase tax based on the cost of the car. So really everything can be more costly but it is telling how many people will pay more with all the choices and yet still cry about other things costing more like housing.
owning a house is a scam. i let my always growing dividends pay for the roof over my head. you have to be mentally ill to have a mortgage or to be a landlord.
>>524240498>>524237441I invested in my future and ended up with a house. They invested in partying and fucking and ended up making kids they couldn't afford. Time for us to all live with the end result of our investments.
>>524240325>Why is it the home ownership is higher now then when those boomers parents were alive and had that young family?This is mostly caused by the fact that western labor was valuable at the time so everyone was getting paid a wage that was high enough to buy houses, cars, etc.Now that the market is globalized, unskilled labor (Which is the majority of labor) Doesn't actually have any value in The West, because everything that can be made in a factory can be made cheaper in a third world country by someone who will work for pennies.
>>524240578The figures are per percentage of he population - not how much property is owned by poos and arabs and pakis. So you can already work out what it is. And seeing as Londonistan is maj shit skin then of course the maj of housing there are owned by them and of course they were sold that property by those boomers, so much for hanging onto the property then till deaths grips ascends. I already know that most people in the 50's and 60's lived in council housing, the UK was poor after the war and it is ironic despite having all the industry still it was pretty bleak for everyone. They had jobs tho but they were not living in houses they bought, they didn't have TV's and had a radio they still paid a tax for. They didn't have a car and maybe some had motorbikes. It wasn't until the late 60's and 70's that it all started. And despite the unemployment of the 80's house ownership went up, some of course blame Thatcher for selling off the council house stock (people could buy their council house). I mean, is subsidised housing your utopia where everyone get's to live in affordable housing - they don't own it tho?
>>524240852You have a spiritual disease. You would rather cling to your pride even if it means annihilating the future (which you insist you care about) by maintaining moral superiority, than admitting the truth of being a scammed goyslave and demanding a better future for everyone, including yourself. Maybe you take a hit on your house. Later your hard work will get you real life. Investing in your future yesterday was material effort. Investing in your future today is spiritual effort. I urge you to reconsider. You're too young to die in utopia like some boomers. If you don't help fix this, it's guaranteed you lose everything.
>>524239908>making it hard to afford a home and you're idea is to burn it all down to fuck over everyone who comes after you.Nah I "own" a house, that's not why, and I want to help those coming after me not hurt them. I want it to burn because it needs to. Because it's so fucking corrupt and full of lies. Because it rewards rent seeking and political connections over production and innovation. Because rich assholes took 15 years of ZIRP and COVID shutdowns and bought everything up and are renting it back to us. There is no possibility of incremental fixes anymore. It's not all boomers who did this and boomers aren't all bad but boomers on the whole are greedy fucks who sacrificed their own grandkids educational development for their perceived safety and they refuse to step aside out of politics and the boardroom so they can get run over then.
>>524241301I think you should redirect your hate towards boomers. They're goycattle. Cattle. Why hate cattle? Hate the rancher. Boomers had their future stolen too. At any other point in history the aftermath of WWII would have been the dispersal of boomers across the planet raised as the children of warrior-settlers on the frontier. Leavening humanity as the salt of the earth. What do you think Ceaser gave his soldiers? Land in the frontier. Instead they got cooped up in goymerica. Yeah, they were the first and thus were fed the fat of the lamb. Yes, they eventually swallowed the agreement and have become spoiled fucks reinforcing it. By all means, shit down the throat of individuals who refuse to repent. But generationally, I think we should offer them a dignified offramp. Comfy care homes, at least. The hearts of the children must turn to the fathers, too, or we'll all be smitten with a curse. At the end of the day, they're not the enemy. Just the enemy's herd.
>>524241301I am sure those boomers said the same thing when they were younger of the "boomers" of the 50's and 60's. I mean you think this all started in just a couple of decades? The system hasn't changed at all and the US and other countries were set up on working, house ownership (higher now than it was in the 50's and 60's) and those house prices increasing. Also that house ownership went up a lot during the Clinton admin - considered a booming period for the economy. You get many contrarian anons who want that booming economy "the good old days" and yet don't want what comes with that. You can't turn back the clock for all the tech advances, you can't really turn back the clock for the social change - you can only change the future to be whatever that will be. Housing is all about supply and demand. You could build far more houses than the demand and drive down the prices simply because people can turn down the price of a house, but a certain price is baked in there is always a value and it will always be there because people might as well rent housing if he value isn't there.
>>524241795>I am sure those boomers said the same thing when they were younger of the "boomers" of the 50's and 60's.Obviously not, The State subsidized massive suburban sprawl programs that did just build thousands of homes.It did naturally bring down housing costs though, modern authority is refusing to allow another affordable housing surge.>You get many contrarian anons who want that booming economy "the good old days" and yet don't want what comes with that.Cons like what? Unaffordable housing isn't caused by affordable phones.
Sad
>>524241966in 1950 there were 135 million whitesin 2025 there are 195 million whitesin 1950 they built 1.8 million housesin 2025 they built 1.6 million houseswe ARE getting the surge of houses being built, they are just getting snapped up by browns and jews
>>524232948There is no solution to housing that doesn't reduce home values otherwise, supply and demand don't work like that. It's just a roundabout way of him saying he isn't going to do shit but is going to pretend to try.
So we already know that Chad fucks and betabuxx. When you're young if you're not Chad you're told to work hard and study so you can get a good job and eventually settle down for Chad's leftovers and raise his children.That's just reality and I think pretty much anyone here would agree with that.But now people are taking it even further and saying that Chad not only should have his prima nocta, but he should ALSO be given the home and wealth of the betabuxx because that just wouldn't be fair for Chad to not have his own house too :*(So losers like me end up with the worst of both worlds. And you call this moral and just and righteous.You people are fucking disgusting.
>>524243638Divide & Conquer gayop
>>524243982I hope everything you ever work for gets ripped away or given to others for free, while those receiving it dance and point and laugh and mock you.
>>524244053I'm a White male millennial, story of my life.I still don't hate those who have more or less than me.
>>524244139I'm a 32 year old white male myself. Sorry you got a hand full of shit but don't throw it at me.
>>524244139>>524244196There will be plenty of houses once we kill all gangstalkers
>>524243638Everything you just posted is a Jewish op. You're not meant to get Chad's leftovers. Chad is meant to consummate his pair-bonding to Stacy after winning homecoming king and queen, and you're meant to be inspired by his heroism and pair-bond with Rachel. You're both supposed to work hard and you're both supposed to get a dignified life for it. Any wealth creation on top is serendipitous and a benefit to all, with a consummate reward going to the creator.>but nothing works like thatYeah that's the point, retard. It unironically did until five seconds ago when Jews fucked everything up. Falling for their divide and conquer envy-bait only exacerbates the problem.
>>524244421>for their envy-baitYet another example ITT of people calling me envious or immoral while simultaneously trying to take what I've earned.You people are not doing well at avoiding the "Jew cries out as he strikes you" accusations.
>>524232948The solution to the housing crisis is exterminating leftists, deporting non-white immigrants, and packing the vagrants in asylums.That took me what, 10 seconds?
>>524244599>>524244053Oh ye hypocrite. You're the one calling for others to have things taken from them. Literally. You do that which you accuse others of, who themselves are innocent. Literally crying out in pain as you strike. All that's been asked of you by myself, a partying Chad by most metrics yet also a hard working recipient of an EE degree who bought a house at 26 through thrift with my wife whom I've courted since middle school (virgins till we married btw), and other reasonable anons ITT is that you tolerate the goypoints a screen tells you your house is worth going down of it means other hardworking but less talented and yes less privileged (I mean fuck off your interest rate was financed by the life blood of our children) anons can have a home. No one wants your house. No one wants your success. They want the game to be less rigged, which will benefit you more in the long run. But no. You're mad about having less goypoints in the short term.
>>524232948https://youtu.be/9YTayqvw9TE?si=JwnXAwKnN_BX1sKCWell done, Boomers. You have officially fucked everything. Enjoy your retirements.
And as a final fuck you to you all before I leave this thread and enjoy Christmas and New Years getting drunk by myself - the home I own all to myself is a 5br 3bath 3car garage. I'm filling the spare rooms up with video games - card games - a guest bedroom that will likely remain empty - and idk I might just leave a room empty because I feel like it.In the 3-car garage I have my home gym and a little shop for my project cars.Have a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone.
>>524233690everything marx said about captialism was right.it's just communism isn't the solution.
>>524245255Nice car
>>524232948>I want a solution that doesn't destroy something else as a side effect>BUT I WANT TO DESTROY IT ACTUALLYSounds like you don't actually care about housing and what you actually care about is something that isn't related to affordable housing.
When will the boomer menace finally start dying off fuck
>>524232948goodbecause we cant actually afford to take care of our boomer parents on our own. but we do not affordable housing for ourselves. i hope trump finds a win-win here
>>524237432>does not ned to be takenAs a point of history, let me point out that the costs and fees of attending University began to shoot up in the 1990s, and NPR would breathlessly report the new price of attending Ivy League schools like Harvard and Yale.This is where student loans began to head toward crisis.
Wow
>>524236654I never did any of that. Nice strawman to justify your fucked up slave mentality.
>>524236654 I wasted my youth working and struggling with my own small business and I was ass raped by the banks and feds. Fuck you.
>>524233398Oy vey
>>524232948trump is even older that the boomer gen.
>>524245255
Hahahaha
>>524238482There absolutely is, it's called National-Socialism.
Based. The media (who you didn't hate enough) is redirecting to old people and Trump.
>>524232948what a super retard.Trump is not a capitalistHe is a fascist.
>>524253112>National-SocialismWouldn't attack it's own elderly because the youth are lazy and inept, it would care for them and whip the youth into shape and respect. You're just a leftist
To still this board up: leftist controlled opposition pretending to be chuds to usher in Communism, labeling anything that doesn't fit their agenda as Jewish.
>>524233047>He knows that's the only support he has lefthow so? 90% of sign makers this year have been boomers.
The Same NPC's since the 60's.
Lmaooo
>>524234579If your only problem is that other people aren't suffering as much as you'd like, you don't fucking matter.
we just call boomers christcucks, as the gods intended. that way your hopes arent crushed when you find out the boomers never die and seem to find a way to keep repleneshing their numbers.
>>524232948Socialism for the rich.
BOOMER REPORTING IN.According to my DNA I am Whiter than anyone on this board.I was born in a very poor family who had given all their ranch land to a religious polygamous cult.I shoveled shit from horse corrals for fifty cents a corral after school hours.When there were no corrals to shovel I rode a bike I had built from scrap parts along a highway to collect soda bottles carelessly thrown out by people like you for the five cent refund.When I graduated eighth grade I got a job shoveling granite in 115 degrees for landscaping. It was $2.35 an hour.My freshman year in high school I got a job at a hardware store after school and weekends.It was $1.75 per hour.My Sophomore year I bought a pickup that smoked badly for $250, and that summer I did my own landscaping jobs.I did so well by my junior year I quit school and worked full time.By the time I was 17 I bought 3 acres in the desert two miles from electricity and the nearest neighbor.I learned to be an aerospace machinist and worked in machine shops.This was long before YouTube and grok where you had to go to the library and order books and wait several weeks for.Most you couldn't check out.I started on the property.I built an 18 x 18 cabin out of pallets I brought home from the shop.I mixed the concrete by hand with a hoe in an old model T bed trailer for the wall footers and floor.I dug my own septic with a pick, shovel, spud bar and self built hand crank bucket lift winchI bought a generator and a swamp cooler for the worst part of the summers for the little time I was home and not working.I eventually started my own machine shop, bought old lathes and mills and reconditioned them.In my "spare time" I learned mining and metallurgy.I started a mining company and rebuilt old heavy equipment.I bought a drill rig, rebuilt it and drilled a well.Got in trouble with " then" and had to buy a permit to pump my own water.Over time built two custom homes on the property. ff it's worth 3.8 million.
>>524236241Hey retarded nigger Faggot as a 22-year-old zoomer go on and tell me that I need to invest time and fucking college when AI will have 30% of all jobs by 2030 according to current trends what’s even the point I have a one and three shot of being totally fucked for life and even if I’m not fucked when AI eventually does replace my job what am I supposed to do just work at Taco Bell until they replace that one fuck that
>>524245255It’s funny how boomerism manifests in younger people. Enjoy your toys Peter Pan.
>>524238232And you'll be violently crucified old cuck
>>524233398This mind set works on a planet with low population. Land isnt getting produced only used. I want a penthouse overlooking central park for $250 but thats not reality. People take up space, finite space exists. Ergo pay for what you want and prices attached are related to how desireable the place is. Simple economics, anon. Feel free to use your life producing free homes for people I guess but lets be real, you wont be doing that. The utilities, trades and heavy equipment doesnt work on feelings, faggot.
>>524239908Boomers sitting on their hands while infinite sub humans are imported and outsourcing took off can all fuck off. Apathy is consent. They can protest their asset going down but not the rape of the country. Fuck you.
>>524232948Cool it, buddy!
Just legally prevent boomers from asking for less than their home's current valuation, then go build cheap homes.>See? Your house is still worth millions, there just aren't any buyers.
>>524232948why the fuck does a boomer care what his home value is? He is probably living in the house he is going to die in, so if he isn't selling it, home value is mostly unimportant. Personally I have no plans to sell my house and I want its value to plummet so the goddamn taxes go back down.
>>524234304if this year and previous year milei's sanctification proved something is that libertarians and capitalists aren't real, pretty much all of the people flying that flag are globalist talmudists and their loyal shabbos the few barely saneish people left are in the tankie marxist areas
>>524234304there's no real capitalism anymore. there is no competition anymore, there are already winners. regular peoples only goal now is to create a new business that does good enough for one of those winners to buy it and absorb it get a good payout.You don't win or lose anymore based on being better than the competition, you win by the government giving you tax payer money (welfare). the government can decide certain companies cannot fail and give them money for their CEOs to give their self raises. it is completely over and those at the top have already rigged the game. you have no other choice in who to go to for a product or service
>>524259878>milei's sanctificationMilei "won" because he threatened the country with an economic crisis that only he could set off.
The media is an arm of UN globo and they don't like Trump and... the elderly?
>>524238497There's a rumor the Chicago Bears, the football team, might move to Gary in the early 30s. I would die laughing if the real estate does a 100x there.
>>524233398There are plenty of cheap houses where young people can live if that's what they want. They don't want to live there because they are in icky places in the Midwest with no culture. Those houses don't go up in value and nobody buys them as an investment.They complain that they can't afford houses in the nice parts of a select few cities on the coast where demand far exceeds supply. Those houses are an expensive investment for that reason.There is nothing wrong with the housing market. Millennials are just entitled brats who can't handle not being spoiled by their parents and having to settle for less.
>>524232948Wagecucks will still get out of bed in the morning. Clock in, wagies.
>>524233862>Bought a house near the bottom of the real estate market post 2008 crash. WOW
>>524233398When retirement homes cost 10k for a shit tier retirement home then houses become investments. One of the reasons prices cannot drop is when a boomer goes to a retirement home they sign a contract. Their house gets cleaned out and the retirement home rents out the house. The income from that goes to paying retirement home monthly bill plus social security, Medicare, etc all get funneled in. Then when the boomer dies the contract states the retirement home can sell and keep all profit. Houses are over valued but if prices drop then the boomers may not be able to have a brown slave care for them until they die. In 10 or 15 years when boomers are dead and gone from politics then things may improve but gen x will want to keep things the same instead of fixing the system. Millennial likely will as well.
>>524260917>Just live in a crackhouse with niggers, goyNo, fuck off back to Israel and take your bio weapons with you
>>524233398second post best post. traditionalism died the moment a family home became an "investment vehicle" instead of a sacred place.
>>524236950He grew up in a tow parent household with a father into adulthoodYeah fuck you silver spoon, the rest of your story is bullshit
>>524261549>Millennial likely will as well.Wrong, most millennials are fucked, except the youngest onesI'm the millennial cusper and I am 43 years old, you have no idea how fucked most of us are, working dead end jobs because we got rug pulled hard in our 20s and leaving collegeIt's not even about debt, it's about boomers holding all the keys to the kingdom and we are still being told to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, By the time you would think it's "our turn" to bring about the change you speak of, many of us will be living in tiny homes we made from a kit or shelters we made in some creek somewhere in our 50s and 60s and most of us are already 100% demoralized now.I guess what I am saying is my generation only exists as a sacrificial warning to younger generations who are paying attention, not to ever buy into the propaganda that "things will get better" or like you will see in a lot of Hollywood films from our era "just wing it and one day you will find your calling"Lol such optimistic fools we were.Now when I am in the grocery line I see another aging out man my age and I see the broken soul behind his eyes and in the way he hangs his head and shoulders, and I think "they got you too brother"Don't feel sorry for me, just don't let (((them))) trick you like they tricked us
>>524234276This. It’s supply and demand. I thought the Plandemic was going to be the solution, but it was a fucking bait and switch. Now the Vaxxies are fucked and the Boomers are still alive laughing all the way to the bank.
>>524262892>thought the Plandemic was going to be the solution, but it was a fucking bait and switchThisPart of me was looking forward to quieter streets and cheaper everything due to a mass die off The other part of me(the part refusing vaccine and to wear mask) thought if I die, at least it will finally be over and I didn't intentionally commit suicideMuch dissapoint
