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>WW1
>A Serb kills an Austrian because of Yugoslavia or something
>therefore, tens of millions of British, Russians, Germans, Turks, French, etc. have to die in a massive worldwide conflict
>40 million dead

Can someone explain to me WHY any of this had to happen? This shit sounds completely fucking RETARDED
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>>524239654
>Can someone explain to me WHY any of this had to happen? This shit sounds completely fucking RETARDED
Jews.
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>>524239654
Jews.
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>>524239730
Anon EASILY claims the first post.
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>>524239702
this
also it's a way to get the aggressive people killed so they don't cause trouble back home
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>>524239654

hahaha, mogged, why were British, Russians, Germans, Turks, French, etc. so stupid?
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>>524239654
What did it even achieve anyway?
The dissolution of the Austrian and German Empires, further destabilizing Europe, leading to yet another gigantic war
Truly genius
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>>524239832
hahahhahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA
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>>524239832
>What did it even achieve anyway?
British Mandate of Palestine.
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>>524239654
People saying Jews aren't elaborating enough:

The kikes at this point in time had their base of operations centered in the UK with other enclaves controlling France and partially the US of A.
Their goal was to establish an international system of finance with both all of mainland Europe and Russia in the fold and then eventually the entire world. Control over Germany was key to this endeavor because as we all know, Germany's one of the most productive, most industrious nations on Earth.
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>>524239654
>WHY any of this had to happen
Because there were certain influential people in all of those countries that stood to benefit from a large-scele war and had been preparing for one for decades. The serb-nationalist attack was mainly used as a welcome excuse to start escalating shit. Granted, there were also many politicians in all of those countries trying their best to keep peace, but generally and in particular for Russia, the pro-war faction was overall more forceful. The Tsar himself was reportedly against goint to war (with Germany, that is, not necessarily with Austria, but at that point both went hand in hand), but pretty much all of his Inner Cirlce pushed for war.
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>>524239702
>>524239730
Jews didn't control any of these countries back then except MAYBE England and even then their power wasn't absolute.

Why don't you try giving a real answer
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think of WW1 as a culmination of a series of global events,

-the capture of the British stock market by the Rothschilds after the battle of Waterloo
-Marx and Engels write the (((communist))) manifesto
-the Russian revolutions and slaughter of the Romanovs
-the sinking of the Titanic and forming of the federal reserve in America
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>>524240417
>think of WW1 as a culmination of a series of global events
>the Russian revolutions and slaughter of the Romanovs
Who wants to tell him?
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>>524240793
History is cyclical, anon.
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>>524240285
Rothschilds were the prime funders of EVERY MAJOR POWER except Russia, dumbass
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>>524240229
Jews and their freemason pawns had simply decided Europe's empires needed to go and Israel should be secured for them
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>>524239654
Anglos
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>>524241030
It's a bit more complex than that, and most probably not really conspiratorial. Yes, Zionists did exist and arguably had a vested interest in a war, but that's hardly all there was to it. The most common reason was probably just good old war-profiteering. Anti-monarchist movements (both from the left and the right, and none of them strictly democratic either in the contemporary sense). Ultra-nationalist terrorists who hoped for their land's "liberation" from "occupation", like the aforementioned Serbs. Also, not to be underestimated, actual morons who beleived that their own country would definitely come out of the war with a net-profit.
If we're strictly talking political influence, it's pretty clear that the war-pofiteers were the ones that made the real difference.
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>>524240942
>Rothschilds were the prime funders of EVERY MAJOR POWER except Russia, dumbass
Proof?
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>>524240942
yes yes but by what mechanism did the rothchilds force everyone to fight?
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>>524239654
The elites wanted a war.
The murder was just the excuse but it was going to happen anyways.
Same reason Trump will go to war.
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Battle of the Somme

I read The Guns of August when I was 10 or 11. It was one of my sister's university course books left lying around the house discarded.

Day 1. 50,000 Brits slaughtered.
Well that didn't work. Wat do?
Day 2 do it again. 35000 die
Hmm surely something is wrong. Let's try again
Day 3 do it again 35000 die
Continue from July 1 1916 to November 18 1916

More or less from my memory.

They just kept feeding bodies into the maw of death. Napoleon explained it when he was selling his planned Egyptian Campaign to the Directorate.

No room for a full translation of that. Basically we the government are afraid of young men, they're violent and we hate military men in particular, even our own. Let's send them far far away and hope they get killed or captured and turned into slaves so they never return to trouble us.
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>>524241372
>Proof?
Rothschilds after Napoleon controlled the Banque de France, and used its gold to buy out the Bank of England during the 'financial panic' of 1825
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>>524241372
>Proof?
Rothschilds founded and led Creditanstalt, which was the key financial institution and primary dealer of the Austro-Hungarian Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_Austria
Rothschilds also funded Cavour's endeavour to 'unify' Italy, and became the kingdom's primary dealers, too
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>>524241372
>Proof?
Rothschilds bankrolled Bismarck to set up the German Empire via their agents the Bleichroeders, and used jewish banking dynasties like the Oppenheimers and Warburgs to control the Empire's finances
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>>524240229
The Tsar was check mated by the creation of the Duma and other Russian institutions in The aftermath of the 1905 revolution. The jews had himnin their clutches after that. They used their plants in the Tsar’s circle and in the Duma and other overseeing bodies to force the Tsar into agreeing to go to war. They ALSO spread a massive propaganda campaign around Russian cities, stirring and rabble rousing. The people may have revolted had the Tsar not agreed to go to war.

Opens up new meanings to the phrase, “the errors of russia”, doesn’t it.
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>>524239654
The jews fomented and stirred a world war, and made it very difficult for countries to get out of it by sabotaging diplomacy and creating deadly economic tensions.
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>>524240285
No, They sort of did, albeit indirectly and not the direct way they do today. That process of direct jewish rule emerged AFTER WWI. England was the most thoroughly controlled European power at that time, but the actual most jewish-controlled country in the entire world was the United States. It was from there that they escalated tensions and directed plans that forced a general european comflict to erupt.
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>>524239654
serbs and russians being serbs and russians started ww1 via a vicious murder


it really is that simple


Archduke Franz Ferdinand's last words, spoken as he was dying after being shot in Sarajevo, were a desperate plea to his wife, Sophie: "Sophie, Sophie! Don't die! Live for our children!". He also repeatedly told those trying to help him, "It is nothing," in a weak voice, before succumbing to his wounds shortly after Sophie died in the car
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>>524242733
The Serbs yes, the Russians were victims of an aggressive propaganda campaign of inciting war.
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>>524239654
The original white genocide.
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>>524241352
It’s more conspiratorial than that. This war was mapped out and driven for beginning at LEAST in 1893, if not earlier. 20 years of planning and backing every nation into a corner.
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>>524242749
current say events indicate otherwise as does the breakup of yugoslavia, kosovo, communist occupation of eastern europe, sponsoring communist terrorists, installing communist disctatorships etc etc

>>524242733
>serbs and russians being serbs and russians started ww1 via a vicious murder
>it really is that simple
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>>524239654
anglos. the british have always been afraid of losing their influence to germany, and regularly causing wars that decimate europe is their strategy to avoid that. same thing they are doing now.
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>>524239654
>Can someone explain to me WHY any of this had to happen?
Fighting over European hegemony. We have done it for thousands of years but this time we had machine guns and long range artillery.
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>>524242088
Being a broker does not mean you have control over the entire national bank. It means you facilitated negotiations.

Which would not be out of the ordinary for a prominent banking dynasty.
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>>524241707
The Canadian Corps had so much success, precisely because Currie and Julien Byng had seen the somme and never wanted it to happen again. Currie criticized the british leadership because they would commit to random unorganized attacks to "surprise" the germans, but even the attackers would be confused about the attacks as they'd get no more orders than to go over the top. Many assaults in the somme had so little artillery support that the barbed wire in front of the trenches wasn't even cut and the assault would get cut down, men were so desperate that they would dive onto the wire to act as a bridge for the men behind them.

Its why during vimy and all subsequent battles the Canadians were involved in they meticulously planned out the attack and distributed the information among the men so they knew the plan of battle, They had greater coordination among artillery and infantry as well as having dedicated counter battery section, and specific targeted fire missions on known enemy emplacements, all timed and organized to fall within the battleplan to ensure proper target priority. Its amazing how much more effective a fighting force is, when the leadership actually cares about the lives of its men and plans attacks in ways to minimize losses
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>>524241372
>Proof?
Rothschilds founded and controlled the Imperial Ottoman Bank after loaning the sultan many millions for the Crimean war
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>>524240027
That’s not what this was about. They had control over Germany’s upper financing houses since the country was founded in 1871.

The US was also more thoroughly controlled than the UK was at this time. In the UK, the jews rulednindirectly and entirely from Behind the shadows. In america, jews openly dictated policy to the nations people, and they’d obey.

The goal of WWI was to usher in “the new world order”, kill off all the violent white men (the types who no longer exist in europe anymore, the slasher types that niggers were scared of back in the middle ages). that involved: the dissolution of European empires, the establishment of Israel, the creation of a global world-empire with Israel in command over it.
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>>524241372
>Proof?
Rothschilds bankrolled the Meiji Restoration via their agents Jardine-Matheson, and took control of US gold issuance after another 'financial panic' via their US agents the Belmonts (Schoenbergs)
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>>524239832
Their plans failed, is what happened. Jews plan far in advance, but often times they just fuck up. See the gaza thing for example. They torpedoed themselves by themselves, without any form of help from antisemites whatsoever. They somehow turned the entire global left against jews. My liberal aunt at thanksgiving was ranting about how much she hates the jews now.
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>>524243040
Except they weren't merely brokers, they literally bailed them out, which of course ALWAYS comes with many strings attached
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>>524239654
It's a tough one. Austria was completely justified invading serbia as serbia was not cooperative in handing over terrorists who had killed austrians. It is questionable but still understandable that Russia defended serbia. It is in line with russia's defending serbia that germany defended austria.

Where things go off the rails entirely is france warring germany, their only reason was they were still assmad about 1870. The brits had no cause whatsoever to join the conflict.
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>>524239654
Real question is why didn't Ireland and Scotland use this opportunity to claim independence?
Same this during WW2?
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>>524242908
The Russian state, after the introduction of the soft jewish power after 1905 over the tsar, had used its intelligence agencies to commit assassinations and destabilize the region. But that wasn’t the crux of why the Tsar finally agreed to go to war. He agreed to go to war because the jews would have fomented revolt against him if he didn’t. They attained this advantage via propagandizing and rabble rousing the Russian masses.
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>>524241352
>It's a bit more complex than that, and most probably not really conspiratorial.
Well you're half right here, because it most definitely was conspirational, in fact it was EVEN MORE conspirational, because WW1 and WW2 were both planned well ahead as sequential events
Picrel, the same masonic rite that spawned the Black Hand also spawned the NSDAP
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>>524243149
Yeah yhe war was clearly sabotaged on both sides to ensure max stalemate and max casualty.
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>>524243375
Hey anon, what year did Ireland become independent?
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>>524243423
Hitler was a wildcard and sniffed out that they planned a world war 2 regardless of his actions. That’s one reason he was so tough to beat- a real, unpredictable military strategist.
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>>524239832
WWI and WWII were really the same war.

There's a simple definition of what a "world war" is in historiography. It's when international rules and expectations completely break down and there's a free-for-all; after the end the top dog nations that come out on top make up a new "world order".

Thirty Years' War, Seven Years' War, Napoleonic Wars - these were all world wars.

WWI-WWII was a protracted world war with a peace interim.

The stuff going on right now in the Middle East and Ukraine since 2010 is also an ongoing world war. (Though it's clear already that USA and EU are the losing sides.)
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>>524239654
>Can someone explain to me WHY any of this had to happen?
Cause it's fun? Everyone was armed to the teeth and just itching to get an excuse to start shit. Tell me, if you had an army of soldier and you just so happened to get some shiny new toys for them that haven't been tested before wouldn't you want to know how they perform?

Or what about 30-year war? Do you think any sane person wouldn't want to put a stop to a war who went over for more than a generation, where army bands had soldier who were born in the army band from all the raping and whoring they did in conquered towns/villages, a war whose purpose was just to feed itself, if it wasn't fun?

The answer is simple. Fighting is fun. It gets your blood pumping. It might not be fun for the individual, but it is definitely fun for a society/nation/civilization as a whole. Otherwise people wouldn't be doing it over and over and over and over for the last 200 fucking thousand years. From bashing eachothers skulls with rocks to shooting guided missiles. Just admit it and accept it. Or if you are really desperate for some sort of justification, consider it a form of bloodletting then.
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british primacy was threatened. that's how superpower operates.
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it allowed the zionists to dismantle the ottoman empire so that they could take israel. germany was an ally of said ottoman empire.

that's literally it.
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meanwhile our anzacs got shot up by Turks in Gallipoli and I'm not sure anyone really understands why any of that particular shit show happened
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>>524243538
1916 the rising.
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>>524239654
The "attack" on Austria meant Germany had to step in due to a pact, but Germany's war plans at that stage (specifically it's train timetables) were such that it had to mobilise east and west simultaneously.
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>>524243808
The Brits wanted to send materiel to the Black Sea but the Turks closed the route, so they tried with the Aussies to take the Dardananlles by land
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>>524243752
This is common NPC programming but completely ignores the fact that the jewish bankers who controlled Britain were the exact same jewish bankers who bankrolled Bismarck, engineered the Franco-Prussian war of 1870 and set up the German empire in the first place
See >>524242335 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ems_dispatch
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>>524240229
>Because there were certain influential people in all of those countries that stood to benefit from a large-scele war and had been preparing for one for decades. The serb-nationalist attack was mainly used as a welcome excuse to start escalating shit. Granted, there were also many politicians in all of those countries trying their best to keep peace, but generally and in particular for Russia, the pro-war faction was overall more forceful. The Tsar himself was reportedly against goint to war (with Germany, that is, not necessarily with Austria, but at that point both went hand in hand), but pretty much all of his Inner Cirlce pushed for war.
>>524240417
>think of WW1 as a culmination of a series of global events,
>-the capture of the British stock market by the Rothschilds after the battle of Waterloo
>-Marx and Engels write the (((communist))) manifesto
>-the Russian revolutions and slaughter of the Romanovs
>-the sinking of the Titanic and forming of the federal reserve in America
>>524241352
The Kraut is correct

People are also forgetting a major issue, which is that the people of all of these countries had to agree with these wars and voluntarily fight them. There were practically no mass protest movements for peace at this time.

WWI ended one of the longest stretches of peace amongst the European people in history. You had the Napoleonic wars in the early 1800s, and that was basically the last time major European powers had gone to war prior to WWI. And yes there were some military actions between Europeans afterc that, but still not for decades. There was the Crimean War between Brits and Russians in the 1850s, and in the USA of course you had the civil war (and then the spanish-american war but that was short-lived).

But by and large the people hadn't experienced true war on a massive scale for 2 or 3 or more generations. Nobody knew what it would be like in the age of industrialization. Once it started they couldn't back down though
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>>524239654
After 1900 there were around 20 conflicts that could have catapulted it to a world war. Ultimately it was Russia who had to larp as Savior of the slaveshits and mobalised their army against Germany and Austria.
Serbs were British funded terrorists and they accepted all points of Austria except that austrian police would be allowed to investigate the terror attack too.
But no...
So Serbia could
>Serbian police investigated the attack and concluded that Serbia had nothing to do with it
......
Even worse than the war deaths was the Spanish flu the USA had created and infested Europe with it.
Fuck USA.
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>>524243910
There are pathetic excuses and silly explanations like that for every major slaughter in WW1, but in the end Europe's very best were murdered en masse for no good reason except judeo-masonic plans to cull Europe's best, dismantle its empires and divide the spoils between banker kikes and judeo-bosheviks while using both to found and protect Israel
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>>524244069
>people of all of these countries had to agree with these wars and voluntarily fight them
Lmao, this has to be the dumbest NPC assertion yet in a thread full of them
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>>524243752
>british primacy was threatened

suuuurely that was it
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>>524242222
Interesting picture.
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>>524242335
>Rothschilds bankrolled Bismarck to set up the German Empire via their agents the Bleichroeders, and used jewish banking dynasties like the Oppenheimers and Warburgs to control the Empire's finances
I don't like this sort of talk because it makes all Europeans look like utterly impotent cucks next to the Jews
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>>524243149
>Its amazing how much more effective a fighting force is, when the leadership actually cares about the lives of its men and plans attacks in ways to minimize losses

I wonder if this was because the Canadian population was so much smaller than that British at the time.

The leaders of the world wanted to prevent Germany from expanding and challenging the UK as a global power. That's what a lot of it comes down to. German technology had finally caught up to and arguably surpassed British/Anglo/American technology by the early 1900s and this freaked the fuck out of the Anglo alliance and they couldn't allow this to continue unchecked

It's just crazy to me that all of the soldiers continued to go along with it and there were never any mass rebellions of any kind. If I was in WWI and I watched thousands of people run onto a field and get slaughtered, and then I was ordered to do that, I just wouldn't fucking do it. I'd let them put me in jail or just outright kill me anyway. Better than being a retard literally running to his death. Any infantry soldier who survived WWI did so through sheer luck and the grace of God.

>>524243625
>The stuff going on right now in the Middle East and Ukraine since 2010 is also an ongoing world war. (Though it's clear already that USA and EU are the losing sides.)

That's one way to look at it but it's hard to say that Russia is winning. When the current Russia/Ukraine situation is overwith, people on both sides will likely consider it a war in which neither side really won, they just lost massive numbers of people. The land that Russia is trying to take isn't worth hundreds of thousands of Russian lives. But it's the same for Ukrainians, it's really not worth hundreds of thousands of their lives either. From an outside perspective it just looks like mass suicide of Slavic peoples by horrific means. If there isn't going to be a surrender, I just wish one side would use nukes or other WMDs and end it for good.
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>>524239832
It led to Serbias indification. Truly a race of gypsy lovers.
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>>524239654
Anglo kikes needed it to Happen for Empire financing reasons
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>>524239654
but why did a Serb kill an Austrian
and you go back and see the Balkan wars
but why the Balkan wars get prolonged so much
because the Ottoman someone survived longer than they should have
but why did the Ottoman survive longer than they should have
well because they were aided by the Brits, among others
and then you go back all the way to Crimea which the Ottomans illegally claimed after it should have gone to Russia
so you see, if Brits just left Ottomans to their own devices and kept Pax Britannica going by letting Russians have Crimea, then the Balkan wars might have been sooner and quicker and then we wouldn't have such a mess with Austria in fucking Bosnia
and then the Jews would have to dig up another plot thread to cause WWI so nothing changes
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>>524244672
>but why did a Serb kill an Austrian
>and you go back and see the Balkan wars
>but why the Balkan wars get prolonged so much
>because the Ottoman someone survived longer than they should have
>but why did the Ottoman survive longer than they should have
>well because they were aided by the Brits, among others
>and then you go back all the way to Crimea which the Ottomans illegally claimed after it should have gone to Russia
>so you see, if Brits just left Ottomans to their own devices and kept Pax Britannica going by letting Russians have Crimea, then the Balkan wars might have been sooner and quicker and then we wouldn't have such a mess with Austria in fucking Bosnia
>and then the Jews would have to dig up another plot thread to cause WWI so nothing changes
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>>524244324
>it's hard to say that Russia is winning
That's not what I wrote, dipshit. Learn to read.

(Mass illiteracy is one big reason why USA and EU lost WW3.)
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>>524239654
jews needed to install "democracy" in Germany so they could destabilize it
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>>524240285
>MAYBE England
and France, Poland, and significant & growing power in Russia
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>>524244357
I don't care much about serbs but it really went downhill after 1913.
50% of all Seth men killed in the great war and all your women raped by Bulgarian maniacs.
Meme kingdom collapsed fast and then WWII fun with Bulgarians again..
Then communist nonsense with serbs paying for all minorities.
Austrian monarchs pushed for the breakup of Yugoslavia and it happened.
Your women are prostitutes here and your men cheap workers.
Bombed and cucked again by Nato losing Kosovo.
Being a serb must be pure suffering.
Centuries of Ottoman humiliation and it became only worse after that. Even your best friends the Russians don't care about you anymore
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>>524244755
>That's not what I wrote, dipshit. Learn to read.

It's what you implied! Saying that USA/EU are losing is implying that the opposing side, Russia/China/BRICS, is winning, and it just doesn't look that way to me. It just seems like a gay stalemate
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>>524244307
> it makes all Europeans look like utterly impotent cucks next to the Jews
Sad as it is to admit, Europe's ruling elites most certainly were
>Nervi bellorum pecuniae
And the Rothschilds played both sides of every war and revolution since the American Revolutionary war
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>>524244324
HoI4 idiot detected
When you stop measuring wars with land.
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>>524244889
Russia was actually the exception, hence the fact the tsar's (and Russia's) fate was far worse than any of the other rulers of Europe's dismantled empires
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>>524243149
Izzat redeemed!
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>>524244324
Canada just got fucking lucky, Currie was a free mason and had embezzled money from the militia to pay some debts (300 000 in todays money). But he was also a military Autist and would read any military textbook he could get his hands on. Very meticulous in planning, for example he would arrive at the front, and looking at the state of the trenches ordered his men to dig a second line of defenses that overlooked the first line, 7 days after his arrival at the front lines the 2nd battle of Ypres would begin, which is the battle where the Germans first started using dense chlorine gas that would settle in trenches to create a break through. The first day the germans gassed the french african forces (morrocans and algierians), and they promptly fled leaving a 12km gap next to the Canadian section. The Canadians would spread out to cover that gap as well, On the 2nd day the germans gassed the Canadian lines. this is the battle where the soldiers had to pee on handkerchiefs and hold them against their faces to protect themselves from gas. The battle lasted a month with the line being held.
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>>524239654
>Can someone explain to me WHY any of this had to happen? This shit sounds completely fucking RETARDED
If you have to ask, you might be RETARDED
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>>524241043
once you start understanding what gaelic is especially what french is and their marriage to germans especially danish you will change your view
>>524239654
weak setting up strong to get the modern world while weak keep claiming they were/are prosecuted by "evil" strong
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>>524241043
and in regards to ww2 know that hitler had irish familiy
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>>524240285
Retard alert I repeat retard alert !
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>>524244029
Man shut the fuck up. There were no "jewish bankers" n shit nigga. yall white egos and pride doomed yo white asses to the meat grinder for years. i bet if you asked one whitey soldier during the war what dey fightin for, deyd hesitate n shit, for real. cuz they know dey was no point to that shit cept to survive
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>>524242871
>This war was mapped out and driven for beginning at LEAST in 1893
>1893

proof?
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>>524246474
that explains a lot
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I didn't see any mention of royalty here, sorry if I missed it. Back then royalty was looked upon as more representative of their people, for good or ill. So when they assassinated royalty, it was a powder keg. It seems to me it was rather intentional to achieve the desired effect of war. Were kikes behind it? Probably. Aren't slavs kikes anyway.
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>>524244324
>If I was in WWI and I watched thousands of people run onto a field and get slaughtered, and then I was ordered to do that, I just wouldn't fucking do it
That's because people actually had pride in their countries and trusted that their leadership was doing what was best for everyone.

The average British soldier died in service to what he thought -- was the largest and most glorious Empire the world had ever seen. And his death would bring it to further glory.

I doubt any of them expected that they were actually dying so their great-grandchildren could turn into trannies and get replaced by violent Muslims.
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>>524239654
Wypipo enjoyed slaughtering each other in those days because they figured they'd be the majority forever anyway. They wanted bloodshed because they were bored.
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>>524239654
that was just the catalyst.
Germany got too cocky in the eyes of the Entente.
France and Russia already negotiated who would get which part of Germany and their colonies.
Bagdad Rail was also a very important factor. 10 Million Persians starved because Britain seized their oil and grain reserves because it didn't want Germany to get access to natural ressources and access to the indian Ocean (via Basra)

they thought Germany was the only problem and they need to be kept down at all costs.
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>>524243258
>>524243205
Interesting stuff. I wish I could find more sources about this. I tend to stick to older history since this stuff is mired in propaganda
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>>524243495
>clearly sabotaged on both sides to ensure max stalemate and max casualty.
I wonder what modern parallels to that may be?
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>>524247572
>I wish I could find more sources about this
There are plenty of sources on Rothschild control of the dollar and the Morgan-Belmont Gold syndicate which preceded the founding of the Fed by almost two decades, it's really not in dispute
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>>524241372
>Proof?
Reality
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>>524239832
>What did it even achieve anyway?
>The dissolution of the Austrian and German Empires, further destabilizing Europe, leading to yet another gigantic war
So all of the objectives
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>>524240285
>jews get the balfour declaration
>the ottoman empire is destroyed, allowing jews to create their zionist state
>tsarist russia is destroyed, allowing jews to leave the pale of settlement
>all major world economies are indebted to jewish-controlled banking institutions
they seem like the big winners out of ww1
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>>524247572
Pretty much all I've posted itt is confirmed (and, well, jewsplained) in the approved biography by Rothschild historian Niall Ferguson, The House of Rothschild: The World's Banker 1849-1999
https://archive.org/details/houseofrothschil000v2ferg_c6f9
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>>524239654
>Subhuman Shitmerican cannot comprehend a war fought for reasons other than stealing resources and robbing nations for jews.
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>>524239702
thread/
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>>524239654
>Can someone explain to me WHY any of this had to happen?
Mutually assured destruction. Ironically all the pre-WW1 alliances were meant to prevent a major war from breaking out. Additionally tension had been rising between the European powers leading up to the war.
Btw the death toll was closer to 20 million, not 40 million.
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>>524239702
>>524239730
Literally how?
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>>524248232
>jews fulfil zionist prophecy
>populate Israel with formerly reluctant jews
>create a foundational myth for the post-war order
>receive eternal victim card
>divvy the world between banker and bolshevik kikes
>create monetary authorities and transatlantic organizations to hide their power level
They were even bigger winners of ww2
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>>524239832
I doubt any of the countries involved knew how bad it was going to be and what the consequences would be for Europe going forward
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>>524249037
Read the thread, dumbass
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>>524241043
Rent free
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>>524242978
>Germany invaded neutral Belgium
>This is somehow Britain's fault
Maybe Germany shouldn't have given Austria-Hungary the go-ahead to attack Serbia and then proceed to chimp out and invade France and Belgium
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>>524243258
>Rothschilds bankrolled the Meiji Restoration
Based Rothschilds
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>>524239654
What's even funnier is that 3 of the major belligerents were ruled by men with direct familial ties.
Truly one of the dumbest and most pointless wars in history.
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>>524243375
IRA launched the Easter Rising Rebellion in 1916. Germany sent them weapons
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>>524243771
The Ottoman Empire was initially neutral when the war broke out
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>>524244762
What does a Serb shooting an Austrian have to do with Jews and Germany?
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>>524249206
>Honouring allies is le bad
British know all about betraying allies like you did with France in WWII
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>>524249116
I have better things to do than read schizo nonsense
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>>524249369
Honouring allies is fine, chimping out and trying to take over Europe is retarded (and why we had to beat you, twice). Also France betrayed us in WW2 by surrendering in 1940 and becoming a German puppet state
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>>524244219
Very good read. I like how it pointed out that Lenin -- was very much a Jew himself. Often people like to paint Trotsky as a Jew while claiming Lenin was Russian, when in fact he was descended from rabbis.

Stalin BTFO them btw.
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>>524249640
If by them you mean his competition then yes, if by them you mean jews then NO. LMAO
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>>524249697
If Hitler was Napoleon 2.0 then Stalin was Napoleon 3.0.

He co-opted their revolution and created a cult around himself.
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Much like today
The jew does culture war shit for decades at the ire of normal people. Thus producing radicals who are willing to act as they perceive the world lost if they dont ala the fruit who shot charlie kirk.
Kirk being the symbol of normal peoples power.

Like franz was overtly for order and putting commie rable rousers in their place.

Thats usually how the dominos start to fall leading up to a war. ...and then the money starts flowing and the jews is going see that shit through till it falls off the host engorged on wealth

This will always happrn in the christian part of the world in the abrahamic matrix
Enjoy your stay
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>>524239654
> tens of millions of turkish scoundrels have to die in this conflict.

Lol, why are saying like this was a bad or amoral thing, anon ?
On the contrary, the turkish were beaten, specially at Megiddo in 1918, but also in 1915 at gallipoli (despite failed turkish revisionnist narrative) and Baghdad.

>>524239998
Good war, then. The turkish occupation attempts of this latter mameluks were stopped.

>>524249324
>>524243771
Not true at all, the turkish decided, with the okay from the German, Austrian and italian (only until may 1915 for them) military advisers, chefs and patreons, to attack the Russian forces when they were severely hurt and knocked out by the austrian and German forces (after 1914 Tannenberg) and to attack the French and British when they were distracted by the Western front.
Never were the turkish neutral in this war.

>>524243808
>Our anzacs shot the turkish and german at gallipoli in 1915 and 1916, seizing many turkish fortress and beach bunker and repelling the turkish counter-offensives.
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>>524249826
> Stalin was Napoleon 3.0.
At least Hitler didn't marry jews though..
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>>524250094
>Never were the turkish neutral in this war.
They were. Ottoman Empire was the sickman of Europe, they knew they were in no position to get involved in the war
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>>524250094
>>524239998 #
Good war, then. The disgusting turkish occupation's attempts of this latter Mameluks territories were stopped.

Since then, the turkish hold no authority on these nobles territories.
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>>524250159
>Ignoring that I debunked your claims

>they knew they were in no position to get involved in the war until the Russia was weakened and the West distracted, which was the situation in fall 1914 when they attacked without any war declaration
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>>524248233
Nice, I'll have to read more. Appreciated anon
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>>524239654
Jews as always.
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>>524250099
I've tried to find evidence of this and find it highly suspect. Svetlana clamed no such husband ever existed.

And Stalin himself was a ruthless antisemite in his later years. After Israel turned to America he planned to ship all Jews to Siberia and have them "liquidated".

If I recall Svetlana DID have romances with a Jewish theater boy. Stalin either threatened to have him shot or did kill him, I can't remember. Based on Court of the Red Tsar
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So any actual proof of jews doing it? Like a actual document or statement of them push for this war?
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>>524249206
they had to, because they were at war withFrance and Russia
using asmal country, like Belgium (just like later Poland) to have a "valid" reason to join the war is a cheap trick
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>>524239654
serbs are the only innocents in this whole story
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>>524249439
They lost the battles they bravely fought to defend your asses while you fleed like rats.
They were not so retarded to suicide their entire empire just because German economy was overtaking everyone else again.
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>>524239702
>>524239730
Yes... The jews, of course...
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>>524239654
They had to get it on.
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>>524239654
Germany used the whole thing as an excuse to invade and annex France.

There you go OP.
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>>524253438
kek
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>>524241372
Just say you love Jews.
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>>524253535
>Germany used the whole thing as an excuse to invade and annex France.
How?
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>>524239654
>Can someone explain to me WHY any of this had to happen? This shit sounds completely fucking RETARDED
Two reason
>united Germany was new power house and wanted to change status quo, allies wanted to preserve it
>united Germany was afraid of Russian industrialisation and their military High Command decided that they are as ready for war as they can be where their targets can only grown stronger - so according to real politicks, its now or never
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>>524243625
>(Though it's clear already that USA and EU are the losing sides.)
I wish
USA is wining and EU and Russia is losing, cucktin is a agent of USA
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>>524243149
The brits command was so ineffective and wasteful in great war that its just ridiculous.
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>>524239654
Church kill had gambling debts and was a house bitch for jews sending millions of English men to there death. Letting the cancer of jews spread all over humanity
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>>524253338
islam is literally jewish invention and turks are just zutted greeks so it checks out
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>>524239832
>What did it even achieve anyway?
depopulation of white males
precisely what jews intended
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>>524244307
royals, church and jews(bankers) work all in union
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>>524257371
>church
Why would (((he))) mention this, I wonder?
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>>524258261
why not? church is not immune to corruption or subversion
check the history of pogroms and you will see that it was mostly common folk doing it when royals and church was protecting their jews
every royal family have a royal jew family shadowing them and high church hierarchy usually was in bed with them
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>>524258654
Almost all of the Jewish expulsions came as a result of the Church rousing up sentiment against them and their usurious practices.

The very fucking country you're standing in expelled the Jews under Longshanks at the Church's behest.

I know it's in vogue to hate your ancestors and piss on everything they stood for (Christianity), but maybe educate yourself before making such posts.
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>>524258820
>maybe educate yourself before making such posts.
you first
the hate against jews come from lower clergy and common folk
the high clergy ''converted'' their own jews so they stayed and later took part in reformation because Protestantism is just crypto jewry
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>>524239654
because deleting austria hungary and germany from world wide trade would make 1/3 of these trade volumes available for the brits, french, us, jap, italy. and the war costs would be payed back by the losing middle powers.
double profit.
this was the theory.
till the so called black friday .
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>>524239654
Germany wanted a "general war" to assert its dominance and used the assassination as an excuse to attack Russia, France and Belgium
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>>524251589
>they had to, because they were at war withFrance and Russia

How about not attacking Russia and France in the first place?
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>>524241043
and germans and french and (You)
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>>524249439
>Also France betrayed us in WW2 by surrendering in 1940

You ran away on 26 May, we surrendered on 22 June.
I could say our defeat was caused by your flight, but that would be dishonest, you wouldn't have changed anything anyway.
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>>524259873
Germans were just mercenaries, if nobody hires them they tend to spaz out.
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>>524239654
stupid american idiot
fuck your mother cunt
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>>524240417
no dood, 1 serb chimping out is only reason
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>>524259873
they believed Russia and France planned to attack and split up Germany. So the plan was, take France first and then focus on Russia.
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>>524256728
Serbia killed the Austro-Hungary Arch Duke who ruled Serbia.

Austro-Hungary wanted to invade Serbia as payback

Germany who LITERALLY wanted to get it on told Austro-Hungary go for it and wreck all of those mutherfuckers we have your back fully. So this emboldened Austro-Hungary to invade Serbia knowing ultra powerful Germany had their back.

Serbia was always Russia's little brother so Russia was honor and duty bound to defend Serbia against Germany.

France was allied with Russia in a joint pact to defend against German aggression. Which Germany knew going in. So when Russia went to war with Germany in defense of Serbia France was duty bound to join in.

As soon as France joined in Germany went mask off and revealed their true plan to go to war with France and annex France all along.
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>>524239654
This is why monarchy is the most harmful system ever invented
>BUT HE KILLED MY SON I MUST INVADE HIS NATION I AM SO ANGRY
Politicians and leaders should not have children, friends or any form of family. Their loyalty must lie to their nation alone. Much like Putin who sent his children abroad and never made contact with them since. THAT is a good leader.
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>>524244357
>>524244904
I hope you better not be balkan diaspora, if you are real German then you speak the truth.
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>>524258820
No they didn't. Retard
They always treated jews much better than Pagans. That is why jews survived and Pagans were all killed and culture completely wiped
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>>524241352
>anit monarchist movement from the right
I know what you mean and these words were abused by jews but you can't be from the right and anti-monarchist.
This is retarded as fuck because right come from those who stood at the right of the king and voted for the prolongation of monarchy during the general assembly.
Most people calling themselves right now are in fact leftists.
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>>524244357
Actually, Austria-Hungary falling apart was good. So thank you
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>>524261361
Its not that simple. Any country would go to war with another country that killed their leader.

Serbia and Austro-Hungary had a pact to not go to war which was almost signed and Serbia pledged to investigate the assassination. But Austro-Hungary wanted their own people as part of the investigation. Serbia said no and that's when Austro Hungary decided to get it on. This was with Germany the whole time in the back egging them on to fight and go to war.
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>>524261653
Monarchism and nationalism are incompatible. Just because French were retarded niggers who called nationalists left wing doesn't change that
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>>524261733
Nationalism is literrally monarchist representing themselves in the democratic system.
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>>524261703
They didn't kill their leader. They killed someone who was in terms of government positions a nobody. He didn't hold any important office that wasn't immediately replaceable. Only his daddy was powerful.
But then again, why do I complain, Slavs got many countries because of that, Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia ...
The German world crumbled and died, the Slavic world arose and is still rising to this day
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>>524261789
No, it isn't. Nationalism is just "tyranny of majority, but only for one ethnicity"
Monarchism is tyranny of blue-blooded minority who typically isn't even of the same ethnicity as the rest of the nation (volk, narod)
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>>524261860
If you want to rewrite history at your sauce sure.
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>>524261703
And also, Austria-Hungary wanted that Serbia grant FULL jurisdiction of Austrian police in Serbia, not just their people in it. That would be against the constitution because they would be enforcing Austrian laws in Serbia. It was completely impossible.
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>>524261934
In 1918, the same royal family ran Russia, Germany and England. One world government basically. Would be impossible under a real nationalist system
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>>524260830
>they believed Russia and France planned to attack and split up Germany


No they didn't. This is fake news. It was literally the opposite. Germany wanted to take out one side first very quickly (I forget which one France or Russia) in order to concentrate and conquer the other in total. Russia ended up folding like a cheap towel. Because their vaunted Russian army was outdated and was just a bunch dudes riding horses. They got their shit pushed in so badly they were out of the war at the very beginning. That's when Germany could fully concentrate on annexing France.
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>>524261806
Biggest contribution of slaveshits nowadays are your women in our whore houses and your men being cheap workers here or work for German companies in your shitholes.
Such a success for a race literally called after the word slaves.
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>>524239832
>The dissolution of the Austrian and German Empires
This was the point: depose and dissolve monarchy in Europe. Pave the way for globohomo.
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>>524261999
oh wow 3 whole countries out of 226
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>>524262024
They wanted Russia to die, and it almost did. It is questionable whether Brusilov could have turned it around and the revolution ruined it, or if it was precisely the revolution and the treaty that saved Russia.
Hitler thought the latter, hence why he chimped out so hard at both jews and Russians. he thought that they colluded to destroy Germany in WWI
Hitler was certain that Germany would have won otherwise and if they took Russia the whole, they would win the war
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>>524245646
>the Germans first started using dense chlorine gas

The French were the first to use gas in Aug 1914.
THEY were the ones to let the genie out of the bottle.
Yet there is a lot of propagandizing about Germany in this.
I wonder by who?
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>>524262024
War goals have nothing to do with war tactics.
It was planned to take out France at the beginning because we believed Russia would need lots of time to fully mobalise their army which was true, bad thing was they instantly started to mobalise after the archduke was killed because they wanted war. You don't mobalise just for the lulz.
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>>524262136
Great Britain ruled half of the world back then, was UNBEATABLE at sea and Germany was not shabby either, their industrial output and military technology was at the absolute peak of all Europe. While Russia was the largest country in the world with largest and quickly growing population, although economically backwards.
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>>524262120
Slavs created this world, we created the entire "old left" and social workers movement. The whole thing about state funded universities and services happened only because of traditional Slavic culture and would never be allowed to happen otherwise. Whether you like those things or not, Slavic culture influenced the world heavily
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>>524261999
Nationalism didn't exist before monarchy you can cope how you want but is a fact. Nationalism wasn't worth mentioning because it was comon sens. Now you can critize monarchs because obviously the ancient regime didn't fall without reasons.
But you are arrogant and anti-Christ spammer so it will never happen.
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>>524262024
Germany wanted to take out France quick and then concentrate on Russia.
They thought they'd easily beat France because Germany had vastly superior numbers and industrial output and had easily beaten France in the previous war.
But they got stalled in the Battle of the Marne and the Western Front turned into a stalemate, which fucked up their strategy and left them pegged in a prologed two fronts war against three great powers.
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>>524244672
Brits financed Serbs from day 1. It’s funny because without the great powers and Russia, Serbia wouldn’t exist. The whole
point of ww1 was to prevent the ottomans from regaining power after they started producing oil in Iraq and exporting that oil directly to Germany that had all the best technology and most advanced workforce.
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>>524262472
Nationalism was the default ideology since the dawn of human civilization. Tribalism was a form of nationalism. And if you think that in the Roman Republic or Greece there was no blood nationalism you are mistaken
Greece in fact produced some of the best nationalist philosophers
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>>524262573
>Brits financed Serbs from day 1
Based Brits ..?
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>>524262530
That and Ludendorff was not a genius, just badass. They put everything into the Schlieffen Plan and then backed out at the first sign of trouble
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>>524261806
>They didn't kill their leader.


He wasn't the leader of Austo-Hungary. He was more like an Austro-Hungarian appointed governor of Serbia. Which of course Serbia was against so they killed him.

Also the scenario of him getting killed was literally keystone cops level of retardation. It wasn't even the first time they tried to kill him that day in his horse-motorcade. But he kept to his event schedule anyway and then his horse-motorcade that was following him made a wrong turn and him and his wife were left on their own in their carriage and that's when the rebels got him the second time around that day.
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>>524250094
Russians were planning on invading Turkey way before that.
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>>524262585
>It's the default
Yes you are almost there. What event changed that ? When liberal values appeared, globalism ect...
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>>524262711
And the group who killed him was "Young Bosnia" yes? Bosnians, not even Serbs
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I heard a theory that Gavrilo Princip was actually secretly a Slovene
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>>524262638
Well Britain was the empire of evil. Of course Serbs would gravitate towards them.
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>>524249640
>muh jews in 1066
Sorry but that's nonsense. Not only there's no evidence of this being a factor but the financier class in Normandy has been showed to be of primarily *Frankish* extraction, not even Norman. Protestants under Cromwell are the ones to blame, not William the Conqueror.
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>>524262748
What event changed that? The invention of feudalism first and foremost, and that for 1000 years until the resurgence of nationalism. Then what changed it? The invention of shipping containers and global-oriented economies, where suddenly people were okay with foreigners because they did the tedious jobs. But now the tedious jobs have become 99% automated and the immigrants started coming for the jobs that natives would normally want to get, and thus we are at the start of 3rd resurgence of nationalism. Of course on top of that immigrants started bringing entire families and doing insane levels of criminal activities which was not happening 20 years ago.
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>>524262832
I don't care if they are evil as long as they are on our side. I side with my country always. And you can see that when Russia became the world's 2nd power they crushed Britain with anti-colonial movements anyway.
So who won in the end? The British wish to support Serbs backfired on them!
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>>524262356
Russia mobilized because they were duty bound to defend Serbia. Germany wanted war the whole time and were behind the scenes egging Austro-Hungary to go for it because it was the perfect excuse to go to war and take territory from their enemies France and Russia.
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>>524262955
You really need to understand the core values of the Republic to understand what's going on.
I have no time to elaborate but it's a key to understand the current state of things.
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>>524243752
>british primacy
peaked at Waterloo. We're talking about first world countries in the 20th century here, not third world colonial administrators larping as superpowers.
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>>524263035
Good for you but Serbs must be destroyed and deported back to their homeland, in Uralia.
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>>524263040
Austria-Hungary wanted the war because they hated Slavs for centuries. Germany was just duty bound to defend Austria Hungary
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>>524263040
Globohomo propaganda. The entire war was designed to destroy Germany and the Ottoman Empire because it was always about the oil and German industriousness which no power could have competed if they had won or the war averted further for a decade or two.
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>>524263127
Serbian homeland is in Serbia however? Why should they go to some country they never been in?
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>>524263220
In your dreams maybe



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