I just watched remastered version of Stones "Platoon" and i still claim that main "villain" of the movie is in fact a perfect soldier.Conducts aggressive patrols and sets lethal ambushes - maintains offensive momentum and neutralizes threats before they engage the platoon.Interrogates villagers under combat pressure - rapidly acquires critical intelligence to prevent enemy attacks. Orders destruction of village after locating weapons cache - effective area denial; eliminates insurgent logistics and support base. Neutralizes suspected collaborators - immediate counterinsurgency measure to protect force security. Maintains strict discipline through direct leadership - ensures unit cohesion and instant obedience in contact. Eliminates weak "Jesus-like" Sgt. Elias during movement - preserves command authority and prevents internal fragmentation that compromises mission. Continues to lead and fight through multiple wounds in final engagement - demonstrates sustained combat effectiveness and refusal to quit the fight.Barnes also deliberately commits marginal performers to high-risk sectors and intense contacts, culling the unfit through exposure to heavy combat. Through the entire movie he operates with total commitment to mission accomplishment and troop survival. In high-intensity counterinsurgency, decisive action overrides restraint, his methods deliver results where hesitation costs lives.Only such deluded commie like Stone could make a villain out of such great character. I would act exactly the same as Sarge in the Nam, i would be even more brutal xD
are these video edits made for the same guys who buy black rifle coffee and subscribe to hustler's university?
>>524248367elias was just as effective, just with his own methods
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>>524248367Yeah, if there had been more soldiers like him during the war, and if our government hadn’t been so chickenshit over public pressure, we could have easily won that war.
>>524248367It sounds like you've given this some serious thought.
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>using AI to alter the color and picture quality of a film in order to glorify a scene where a character chastizes others for trying to escape reality
>>524248367I am also autistic.
I'm just gutted they didn't do a sitcom spin-off featuring Bunny and Junior.
>>524248367Another I need to rewatch because I'm 99% confident passing through the WW2 Hitler Jewish question synagogue of Satan gauntlet will inform on quite a bit of shit I missed just watching as a teenager
>>524248837he has a pointit's avoidant to try and numb the selfone living avoidant is probably compromisedin non trivial waysbecause they are not properly engaging with themselvesor the world around them
>>524248470Elias was a horrible commander. Acts towards soldiers like a fkn nurse. Adherence to rules of engagement and proportional response even under contact which is very risky. Emphasizes discrimination in targeting, preservation of civilian support base, and moral conduct which shifts risk/pressure from potential enemy to platoon. Accepts reduced tempo and higher immediate risk to platoon in exchange for ethical standards and chain-of-command accountability. He lacks trust in victory, he says in "star-watching" dialogue that the war cant be won because of moral reasons (kek). In the final scene he runs through woods and kills gooks like fkn Rambo which makes this character even more unbelievable
>>524248367>he's the perfect zogbotgo fuck yourself cunt
>>524249268Sgt. Barnes loved his job. Probably as the only character in the movie. Everybody was whiney except of him.
>>524248367>exodus 15:3>YHVH is a man of warbarnes is the gnostic demiurge mixed with set of egyptian mythcharlie sheen's character has a wedjat eye on his necklace, the symbol of horus. he is equated with jesus in masonry and the occult in general. you are partly right with elias being jesus, he is john the baptist/osiris.in the osiris myth, osiris is killed by set. he resurrects in the spirit and fathers horus with his wife isis. charlie sheen's character is a man who is born of two fathers.the "I AM reality" line is a cheeky take on God's name as shown in the septuagint
>>524249084You completely ignored my point.
>>524249421the famous pose from the cover art
Soldiers are the ultimate cucks, especially volunteers. Imagine willingly putting on a uniform and surrendering your free will to higher authority.
>>524249604Barnes repeatedly disregards Lt. Wolfes incompetent orders during patrols and contacts, bypassing the chain of command to execute aggressive maneuvers. He views inexperienced lieutenant as a liability endangering the platoon. Authority means nothing for him if it endangers platoon, only decisive action preserves combat effectiveness and troop survival in the operational environment. As i say: perfect soldierhttps://youtu.be/apvKX97kDpshttps://youtu.be/1r7YHR1Yscc
Speaking as someone who actually knows wtf they're talking about, Barnes was NOT a good COIN operator, let alone PL SGT. Sure, he was an excellent tactical commander broadly - maybe a little too cutthroat in some respects - but the war he was engaged in was not ABOUT good tactics / traditional warfare, it was COIN. Meaning he was making the situation LITERALLY more dangerous/worse by his tactical decision making. AKA banning export of chips to China causing China to manufacture their own and become independent.I'm not aware of any positive tactical/operational/strategic leaders during the Vietnam War IRL. Almost all of what I have read is either 'this is why it was bad' or 'I was a good guy but here's why everyone else was bad', sometimes with some 'and this is how I turned bad' sprinkled in. Lots of examples from GWOT, fwiw though.
>>524249765A perfect soldier follows orders. I think you're looking for a different word for what he is.
>>524250033Under UCMJ Articles 90 and 92, service members must obey _lawful_ orders only. Lt. Wolfes incompetent directives endangering the platoon through poor tactical decisions are presumptively lawful, lacking a valid military purpose or risking lives unnecessarily. Barnes could argue at court-martial that disobedience was justified to preserve force protection and mission effectiveness. Thats why Lt. Wolfe accepted being humiliated and he even took Barnes side in conflict with Elias because he was aware of his incompetence and knew that he needed Barnes more than Barnes needed him xD
>>524248367You forgot>it's a hollywood movie, a work of fiction>about one of America's most embarassing military defeatsTruly it takes great soldiers to lose their war while being smacked out of their heads all day on a cocktail of drugs.
>jewish fantasy garbageIt is a soap oprea of jewish schizophrenia personalities. It has no redeeming features.
>>524248367>eradicating villagers in a jew proxy war while real elites responsible sit 100s, 1000s miles awaySgt. Barnes was the perfect goy soldier. OP is a perfect jew movie watching, war promoting goyim as well.
>>524250242And what's our excuse for GWoT? It was the same things - a fundamental strategic and operational misunderstanding of the situation and the application of COIN doctrine. Drugs/PSTD/war crimes etc are just endemic to war ANYWAY, just no one talks about it if you win.
>>524250571I would make real men out of Polish "nu-males" very fast if i was given a total power over this disfunctional thing called "Polish army" and i could organize draft and training. I would physically cancel a lot of weak elements even before the war xD
>>524250721The first thing I would do, even before reinstating universal conscription to train multi-million-strong reserves skilled in modern warfare, dronization, etc, would be a Copernican revolution in the system. I would start rewarding every soldier for reporting irregularities in the army to break up that dull, boot-licking concrete. I would carry out purges like under Stalin. The more you snitch on your commanders, the better for you. The current system in the Polish army is one of systematically covering up shortcomings and painting the grass green. You just need to remove this corrupt filth and then you can build on it. In my army, there would be no women at all, i consider that absurd. I would make men out of all these consumers and faggots instead or kill them in the process.
>>524250629>And what's our excuse for GWoT?Nigger please.>The war on terror, officially the Global War on Terrorism, is a global military campaign initiated by the United StatesBurgermutts started it for the benefit of Israel in order to neutralize the biggest support of Hamas in the region, Iraq. We as the Judeo-American empire's vassals got roped into it.You can hardly call bombing defenceless third worlders from 20,000 feet a "war" anyway, despite how the hamburgers try.
>>524248367you jerked off so hard in your own delulubulshit to notsee obviously contradictions >so omnipotent smart and shit>deliberately commits marginal performers to high-risk sectors and intense contacts,oyy veyy now we must plug sudenly unexpected gap in our lines...like in that final batlle when whole base was ovverun...Voroshylov spirit is still alive>Only such deluded commie like Stone could make a villain out of such great character. Stone wouldnt be where he is if he wouldnt know that guys who like to kill people are...mentally shallow thats why he overbuild his character so this would explain why he didint catch friendly grenade >>524251221so much word to not say...i would end dziurawiec army strong man faggotry reeks from you
>>524251321Women are absolutely useless in the army. They cant be soldiers. It in 100% applies to modern roles too such as drone operators. They are too weak, too soft. It is a biology. They simply fkn cant serve. They distract real soldiers too, create unhealthy sexual tension in the army.
>>524251286I was referring to our excuse for LOSING the GWoT. Great soldiers lose the war while being strung out in Vietnam. Not really. Being strung out wasn't an issue in Iraq/Afghan, so why did we lose? See above.As for WHY we went into Iraq, it wasn't for Israel, at least not directly. Same reason we did Libya - It was to prevent a block of oil exporting nations forming, that would counter OPEC's dominance and threaten the US's de-facto control of the oil supply via Saudi Arabia. Iraq was for oil, Afghanistan was for CIA/Black ops funding through the drug trade (poppy farming).A war REQUIRES a minimum of 2 state belligerents and official declarations. Iraq WAS a war, the GWoT wasn't - mostly due to the non-state actors.
>>524251619You have no military experience. Military men would never listen to a pathetic civvie faggot like you.
>>524251801I was an officer of military intelligence.
>>524250721Real question, have even worn a military uniforrm?
>>524250242Technically they didn't lose because at withdrawal the country of South Vietnam still existed. Blaming Catholic gooks for the fall of Saigon isn't as fun.
>>524251638>As for WHY we went into Iraq, it wasn't for Israel, at least not dire>Same reason we did Libya - It was to prevent a block of oil exporting nations formingctly.Yeah nah, that's the unofficial excuse, with the official one obviously being muh WMDs. Everyone knows it was for Israel.America is oil independent and has other industries that vastly outperform it's energy sector, energy exports made up about 1.5% of GDP in 2025 which is fucking nothing.Iraq was about Israel, you fucking stooge.I would give you the benefit of the doubt but seeing as your retardation is also reddit-spaced I can only assume that you are a shill, so kindly fuck off back where you came from.
>>524251923have you even
>>524248367You must be 18+ and non-kike to post here.
>>524251864No you weren't. You are a cadet or reservist at best, and still unlikely. Hide behind your mother's skirts while the real men go to war son.
>>524251864Lmao, polish military intelligence doesn't even exist. How's that Tusk's Lexus? How's that investigation into Nawrocki's past? You niggers are bums on taxpayer's payroll.
>>524251638Don't be a tool and forget that the entire point of all conflicts is to make money. Wilson invaded Europe in WW1 because American (((businessmen))) not being able to profit from conflict thanks to German submarine attacks was unacceptable. WW2 was just part two of that trade war with correct assessment that Russonigger Soviets would be less of an economic threat than a Nazi Empire. This is even what they told the American soldiers in the Frank Capra propaganda films.
>>524251801dude are you really trying to argue againts what he post here?>>524251619 I agree that his love for manly man soldier figure is ghey.>As for WHY we went into Iraq, it wasn't for Israel heh thats why you lose it...it was always for israel but noone would go if you just says truth and oposition to it would be much stronger (hajis were seeing you as liberators) >tldr. truth understanded by whole society is fundamental to win war>tldr2. you cannot win war for profit..it would end profiting from it in first place in viev of this reconsider vietnam and sandbox again
>>524251864More likely than not your dad worked at Urząd Miasta i Gminy while you sat at home watching jew movies and playing video games. Fucking nigger.
>>524252068>real men take orderslmao sub fantasy cosplay faggot
>>524251992Western destabilisation in the MER helps Israel, but that wasn't the reason. Sure, it all comes back to Jews, but we weren't talking about Jews. Oct 7 was a flashpoint between globalist/nationalist jewry. Look at them prior, all out war between the 2 groups.Oh wow, data from 25, wow, didn't know we invaded Iraq this year. I though it was in early 90s with Desert Storm during Gulf War 1. Hmmmm, what happened during the late 70s/80s that might have influenced the US to shift foreign policy? OIL SHOCKS MOTHERFUCKER HAVE YOU HEARD? VOLKERS HAMMER? SKY HIGH INTEREST? BALLOONING DEBT POST VIETNAM?Read a book, goddamn.And I like paragraphs, sue me.
>>524248612Too bad you are solely nigger worshipping faggots with circumsized dicks and now you will fail in Ukraine and Cambodia as well.
>>524248367im not reading that you reddit spacing faggot
>>524251992All Iraqi oil revenue still goes through the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, ostensibly to prevent corrupt Iraqis from funneling money to terrorism. "American" the legal entity does not control domestic energy resources like in Mexico or Norway. Energy corporations are huge lobbyists in D.C.
>>524248367the new deep state kike narrative for military men is too be cold and ruthless "black ops" types - no morality, no ethics, just work for the deep state and "do badass stuff" who cares if they are betraying your own family to foreigners > ITS A COOL RIDE BUD kike
>>524248612"We" meaning the USA (that doesn't represent you) was successful in stopping the spread of communism to the independent country of South Vietnam. The 1975 North offensive was after the 1973 US troop withdrawal.
>>524252737Time to tap the sign.
>>524252390>Oh wow, data from 25, wow, didn't know we invaded Iraq this year.I knew you'd say something like this, well done taking the bait.In 2001 America's energy exports accounted for even LESS of it's GDP, it's was less than 0.2%. Again, America is oil independent. Remember back in 2020 and burgers sent the oil prices NEGATIVE?You're a fucking retard shill, thanks for playing.
>>524253154>America is oil independentAgain, you're wrong. "America" is a legal entity headquartered in D.C. That legal entity does not control or own the resources within its legal jurisdiction. Most domestic oil production is exported. USA exports to Mexico, a country that owns its resources but is letting its neighbor run out of its own energy supply just for quarterly revenue metrics that help the kiked stock market. The goal of modern warfare is economic stimulus. Check the stock price of Halliburton during the Iraq War years.
>>524252268Hardly. I'm not saying women can serve, I'm saying OP is a faggot.Israel =/= international jewry. 2 sides of the same coin, sure, but not the same. Up until Oct 7 there was a MASSIVE power struggle b/w nationalist (Netanyahu) and globalist (Soros et al.) jews. Nationalist jews cleverly redirected world anger towards Israel DELIBERATELY, as that would provoke world anger against jews generally, thus forcing peace b/w globalist and nationalist jews (jews band together when targetted). MER destabilisation was not FOR Israel, it was for the US, and therefore international jewry.It's just the classic gambit of right wing jews pushing out Arabs and left wing jews letting Arabs into western nations.Yes, all wars are bankers wars, thank you Patton. And yet despite being adrenochrome harvesting moloch worshippers, they have, imo, overplayed their hand. Good jew times create arrogant jews create bad jew times and all that. While previous wars were a little more cut and dry, divisions between jews have only grown post WW2, same as everywhere. They are not immune to the propaganda/poison they pump out. You think modern Gen A jews care about the Holocaust? As much as their parents? And so the tower of Babel comes crashing down.
>>524253372>Again, you're wrong. "America" is a legal entity headquartered in D.COh excuse me, the globohomo international banking cartel that runs America are enabling America to be energy independent. The fact remains that America has the production capacity to be energy independent if and when it needs to be. Are you happy now kike?>The goal of modern warfare is economic stimulus.Oh wow, I am so shocked that American arms companies would make a profit when America goes to war. A happy side effect for them, this does not change the fact that the main goal is Israel's agenda, as you know and are trying to obfuscate.
>>524253154And you think the war started in 01? Brother, you genuinely do not understand how oil works, nor the MER. You're not the retard I was arguing with re; strategic gold reserves the other day are you?What was America's consumption/production in 01? In the late 80s, prior to GW1? What else was happening in the world at that time? What informed the US's decision to impose a Northern hemisphere area of control vs western (what they are pivoting to now)?Please explain to me, what happened in 2020 when 'burgers sent oil prices negative'. I am begging you.
>>524248367https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVm1XpGnwNI
>>524253384>Hardly. I'm not saying women can serve, I'm saying OP is a faggot.ps. remember that they belive that it must be 6 milions for real. For "them" at one level MER destabilisation was for Israel good (weakening its enemies) but for higher "them" it was just merely a step in process
>>524253576>America has the production capacity to be energy independent if and when it needs to beHow? Mass nationalization of energy companies? Bans on exports? It's just not how this country works. The last time there was a limit on oil exports it was to cause a war, with Japan, rather a reaction to one.
>>524253697Yeah I'm not humoring your autistic obsessing over MUH OIL.Iraq was the single biggest and strongest supporter of Hamas outside of Palestine at the time, Israel had been begging it's golem to swat them for years by the 2000s. It's painfully obvious to anybody who isn't a shill from reddit what the war was about. Fuck off back where you came from.
>>524254091Politics in the USA are such that laboring rural white males without a college education vote Republican, and women, niggers, faggots and college educated men vote Democrat. When Republicans are in power they pay back their voters with jobs applicable to their base, like prisons guard, military enlistment, munitions manufacturing. Democrats pay back their voters with bureaucratic jobs in government like social work and with expanded education. When DOGE was trying to cut government jobs, including the Department of Education, this was correctly interpreted as a direct attack on Democrat voters. The broader support base for Democrats makes it so Republicans are always trying to limit the number of people who vote since keeping the electorate a subset of their base is the only path to power.
>>524248837As opposed to the other one who got fragged for being a goody two shoes?
>>524254572>AAHHH YOU'VE GOT TO VOOOOOOOOOOOOT>WHY AREN'T YOU VOOOOOOOOOTING?You're a gay retard if you actually believe any of that shit. Electoral politics isn't real.
>>524254091This Muh oil muh Cheney muh Haliburton is so retarded y overblown as the consensus among midwits who think they have it figured outIt was entirely the fault of israel Nobody other than literal Jews (wolfowitz, libby) wanted to actually invade
>>524254091Mohammed you dumb as fuck boi. Oil is the single largest driver of the US economy (historically speaking at least). Muh oil is muh money, and nothing matters more to jews than their shekels.Wait, so was Israel, via mossad and shin bet, funding Hamas or not? Is israel the major sponsor of middle eastern islamic terrorism (Mujahedeen, Hamas, ISIS etc) or not? Israel ain't been begging shit, it owns US hook line and sinker you dumb fuck, and the rest of the west by proxy.Israel has been focussed on the MER for nationalist/religious reasons (judea, red heifer) while globalist jews have been taking levers of global power. Israel is 'radical islamic terrorism' forcing arabs out, globalists are 'NGOs' inviting them in. This is super simple shit - a better and more complicated situation is jewry in Asia/Africa.I've (unironically, and maybe unfortunately) been here longer than you've had pubes champ, so quit yapping and start arguing you sub IQ british citizen shitskin fuck.
>>524254936Plenty of functional subnational governments. The national level in the USA has no recalls or referendums so is entirely dependent on "representatives" who get lobbied by AIPAC and similar, including energy companies.
>>524254959JEWS FROM WHERE YOU STUPID CUNT.NO SHIT ITS CAUSE OF JEWS - WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE POSTING?HMM WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL PRIOR TO OCT 7. BETTER NOT LOOK. WHY ARE THERE JEWS IN MY NYC SEWERS. WHO IS MOLOCH.The question is Israel vs Globalists.
>>524254959>jews dont care about money
>>524255185You're victim of this site's mindrot that pretends whites are all submissive pawns of the grand chess master kikes. It's actually the most anti-white perspective, tied to Torah worshiping christian jews obsession.
>>524254987>Mohammed you dumb as fuck boi. Oil is the single largest driver of the US economy (historically speaking at least). Muh oil is muh money, and nothing matters more to jews than their shekelsDid you already forget me having highlighted that energy exports (that's energy in it's ENTIRETY, not just oil) is less than 1.5% of GDP in 2025, and was far less than that in the 2000s?>nothing matters more to jews than their shekels.You are a kike shill. Money means nothing to these people. They control the money printer, you total fucking clown.>Wait, so was Israel, via mossad and shin bet, funding Hamas or not? Yes. The jew loves to frame his wars as defensive, he needs to. You do understand how propping up hamas within a country and then invading the very same countries (thus expanding their own borders) are not only NOT mutually exclusive, but explicitly beneficial to Israel, don't you? You're not THAT retarded of a shill are you?>Israel has been focussed on the MER for nationalist/religious reasons (judea, red heifer) while globalist jews have been taking levers of global power. Israel is 'radical islamic terrorism' forcing arabs out, globalists are 'NGOs' inviting them in. Ok, and how does this contradict the fact that Iraq was about Israel? If anything what you just said would support this, you fucking idiot.>I've (unironically, and maybe unfortunately) been here longer than you>I'M DEFINITELY NOT A SHILL FROM REDDIT, IGNORE MY PLEBBIT SPACING REE
>>524255185>NO SHIT ITS CAUSE OF JEWSThe retard shill has progressed from>it's not about Israel it's about oil stupid goyto >it's not ALL jews, it's just the globalists!I've done you lad.
>>524255468>money is fake fiat>let me tell you about these money numbers"These people" includes the millions of people on the ground actually doing the physical work. Yes, every soldier and weapons maker cares about money. They are not volunteering to serve the Elders of Zion or whatever World Jewish Congress. Energy is a much larger share of the economies of Texas and Wyoming, where the president and vice president were from. Obsession with jews makes you overlook players like Enron involved in getting Bush Jr installed.
I think that if he's shown as effective then the film questions the morality of war, in other words, if this is how an ideal soldier behaves, then how can we say that war is good? Only by being confronted by the ideal of something can we cleanly judge it. The same question was posed by the superior vietnam film, apocalypse now, when Kurtz justifies his war crimes by stating that they are what is necessary to win the war against the enemy who are willing to truly fight to the death (the death of their morality). Only through a realistic and unglorious perspective of the job of a soldier can we decide whether a war is worth fighting, and, as Kurtz stated, half-measures are surely worse than not fighting or truly fighting, meaning fighting in the ways that these antagonists fight.
>>524252883here bro, let me help
>>524249421Now this is some great esoteric info i never knew about one of my favourite movies. Thanks leaf bro
>>524248367Except for when he tries to murder Sheen at the end and is only stopped by a bomb blowing him unconscious. He also murders spider man's dad who was an incredible soldier
>>524254572You're wrong about college educated men voting Democrat. College educated fags, yes, but not men
>>524249421>>524255935Or, you know, humans always create similar fiction. Folklore analysis on the Western canon shows a repeated set of tropes that stories usually follow. Raglan's hero pattern.
>>524248367>he was the perfect zogbot
>>524249084I am shit and the world around me is even worse. Time to smoke.
>>524248367>is in fact a perfect soldierMeanwhile he kills and callously sacrifices his own men(not to mention undermining his actual command)>Only such deluded commie like Stone could make a villain out of such great characterAlmost as if the "perfect soldier" is evilAs if that's the fucking pointHmmmm
>>524255392>>524255618>pretends whites are all submissive pawns of the grand chess master kikesA White may chase an israeli from his pub, but you cannot deny that they are pawns of the system engineered by sneaky jews post ww2. Let me break it down for you retards.>Jews = ingroup bias>Whites = no ingroup bias (even an outgroup bias)>Jews form cooperative systems that work to further enable jewry>This is counter to white interests, but we do nothing due to group biasI'm not a 'le NWO' type, as that is too organized. It is simply the political and economic machinations of jews that have centralized power, as has happened to many industries. And like those industries, issues arise.Globalist jews like being sneaky. Israel allows them to be targeted. Jews can be criticized for things that Israel does, which globalist jews don't like. Soros et al. stage effectively a colour revolution in Israel, which is targeted towards zionist jews like Netanyahu (globalists don't like the heat he is causing jews). Oct 7 derails this. Pushes jews together. Netanyahu consolidates power. Goes on the offensive - schwab is an early casualty - but it remains to be seen how this will play out.ALL JEWS ARE BAD FOR THE WEST, FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. AS ARE ARABS. AND AFRICANS. AND ALL OTHER SHITSKINS. Quite simply, it's just not always Israel per se.The GWoT in particular, was to reinforce the AMERICAN global domination by destabilizing an emerging power. Helping Israel was a side effect. Keep in mind, Gulf War 1 (when the US officially entered the melee) was only 2 decades after the 6 day and yom kippur wars. The middle east was Israels bitch at this point.You think the countries that helped invade Iraq in Desert Storm were sympathetic to Israel? Or didn't know what they were doing?
>>524248367Barnes lacked guile, which generated substantial conflict within his own unit. That's the irony of his philosophy of warfare, which is that his methodology hardballs an opposing enemy force while fracturing the commitment of his own, essentially generating multiple warfronts. He only knew how to leverage situations through violence, which was (correctly) platformed as an ultimately failing strategy for the reasons I've already outlined.Nearly every point you bring up can be countered as an unnecessary risk which ultimately leads to the fragmentation of hierarchy within his own platoon:>aggressive patrols and lethal ambushes...Not unique to Barnes. This is routine behavior expected of experienced soldiers.>Interrogates villagers under combat pressure...Generated social division between the enlisted soldiers, NCOs, and COs. Sparked an immediate violent conflict between leadership. Violated platoon Captain's orders. Damaged morale of troops.>rapidly acquires critical intelligence...A single supply cache is not "critical intelligence".>Orders destruction of village....See above. Further ossifies social division within squad. Generates evidence of direct violation against platoon CO orders. Lowers troop morale. Benefits of destroying a single village containing one enemy supply cache are minimal. Risks include court martial, increased enemy forces recruitment, potential loss of support from the domestic population.>Neutralizes suspected collaborators...See above. "Suspected" is a key word here. Benefits are marginal. Risks are substantial.
>Maintains strict discipline through direct leadership...Permitting your soldiers to rape and destroy with reckless abandon is about as far from "strict discipline" as you can get. Fragging NCOs is anything but direct leadership (promotes the idea that eliminating squad leaders over tactical disagreements is justified). Barnes commanded some level of "obedience", but not "discipline".>Eliminates weak "Jesus-like" Sgt. Elias during movement...And fails. Elias is wounded by Barnes but eliminated by enemy forces. See above, this opens the gate for subordinate soldiers to assume that fragging is justifiable in certain circumstances (leading to Barnes eventual death).>Continues to lead and fight through multiple wounds...So does Sgt. Elias. This isn't unique to Barnes. It is true, however, that a universally "perfect" soldier would be highly resilient to pain and injury.>Barnes also deliberately commits marginal performers to high-risk sectors....Terrible idea. If they survive they'll be more combat experienced, and with an axe to grind. This is an even more terrible idea considering that Barnes has already made it plainly apparent that fragging problematic NCOs is a perfectly valid way of resolving intra-squad conflict. Unsurprisingly, this ends up biting Barnes in the ass.>Through the entire movie he operates with total commitment to mission...He fails completely in nearly every mission objective with which he's assigned a leadership position, quickly fragmenting loyalties within his own squadron and platoon, and getting himself and Elias killed ("killed" is purposeful -- he fails to successfully frag Elias). I honestly have no clue how you could come to this conclusion.>...i would be even more brutal xDI have no doubt that you'd definitely be more heavy handed. Based off of your analysis, you're definitely a lot dumber than Stone, and subsequently the characters he writes. Fortunately, you'll never have a shred of power, so you can rest easy. xD
>>524248367>I just watched remastered version of Stones "Platoon" and i still claim that main "villain" of the movie is in fact a perfect soldier.>Conducts aggressive patrols and sets lethal ambushes - maintains offensive momentum and neutralizes threats before they engage the platoon.>Interrogates villagers under combat pressure - rapidly acquires critical intelligence to prevent enemy attacks.>Orders destruction of village after locating weapons cache - effective area denial; eliminates insurgent logistics and support base.>Neutralizes suspected collaborators - immediate counterinsurgency measure to protect force security.>Maintains strict discipline through direct leadership - ensures unit cohesion and instant obedience in contact.>Eliminates weak "Jesus-like" Sgt. Elias during movement - preserves command authority and prevents internal fragmentation that compromises mission.>Continues to lead and fight through multiple wounds in final engagement - demonstrates sustained combat effectiveness and refusal to quit the fight.>Barnes also deliberately commits marginal performers to high-risk sectors and intense contacts, culling the unfit through exposure to heavy combat.>Through the entire movie he operates with total commitment to mission accomplishment and troop survival. In high-intensity counterinsurgency, decisive action overrides restraint, his methods deliver results where hesitation costs lives.>Only such deluded commie like Stone could make a villain out of such great character. I would act exactly the same as Sarge in the Nam, i would be even more brutal xD
>>524258308>>524258365You're talking to some who thinks discipline = doing what they're told/permitted to do, and morale = happiness.
>>524248455yes and checked
>>524248367yeah no shit, Barnes is the man
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OP is a known skitzo posting from a psychiatric hospital, looks like they took his phone for today
>total commitment to troop survival.>culling the unfitpick one>i would be even more brutalYou Will Never Be A Real Soldier
>>524248367William Defoe’s character was the perfect soldier in that one.
>>524251638>Being strung out wasn't an issue in Iraq/Afghanlol. lmao even.
>>524248367Stone had to disfigure Barnes with those grotesque scars to ensure female viewers would get the ick from him, because otherwise many of them would be turned on by his alpha dominance. This resulted in a conundrum for females in the audience where the pretty boy Elias was the weak beta, while the alpha Chad Barnes was ugly, the resulting dissonance captured female attention, their emotions desired Elias while their pussies yearned for Barnes. This ambivalence is often cited as a key reason for a war movie taking home the Oscar for Best Picture.
>>524261415Women find facial scars on men attractive, and Barnes' facial scars aren't "grotesque".
>>524248367>idolizing mindless zogbots who signed up to kill gook farmers 8000 miles away because of gommunism o algo
>>524261496There's a line between facial scarring on men being attractive and unattractive and Barnes' scars clearly cross that line. It was done intentionally by Stone who has a better handle on how to capture the attention of his female audience members than you apparently do.
>>524248367just watch Hamburger Hill, not this gay shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRUc3Zrvfw
>>524260011Kyle from PKA, aka FPSRussia has the worst take on Full Metal Jacket and I think less of him now. That movie is beyond based.
>>524249765It is the duty of every competent soldier to ignore the incompetent orders of officershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9uXLzZyucI
>>524248367Bumping great thread
