Can someone explain to me why population decrease is a bad thing and why immigration is a 'good' thing for a country?Is it not totally normal for a population to decrease and then increase from generation to generation? Famines, disaster and all sorts of issues decreased the population before, yet most countries remained perfectly fine with its homogeneous population in tact. It feels fake, like global warming. Is it really just because rich people want more workers?
>>524256278Yes
>>524256278It's bad for the economy. Less taxpayers, less money to run essential services. Not that Russia had much of those services in the first place
>checks flaglol
>>524256399What services do you have that you think we don't?
>>524256278>Can someone explain to me why population decrease is a bad thing and why immigration is a 'good' thing for a country?capitalism has no solution for baumol's cost disease -- other than offsetting, to some extent, cost increases with retarded immigrant slave labor. this is done as 'cost effectively' as possible, which is why countries have no issue with importing working age men who can immediately go to work, and it's also the reason why countries will never, ever consider importing single and attractive 18-28 year old women.
>>524256278He wants to shift blame from himself to commoners. That's all. Obviously, under his rule we will hit 0 birth rate.1. Gigantic taxes, fines 2. Indians 3. Low salaries for ethnic russians4. Global internet will be banned next yearWe're new north Korea, but with Indians >>524256561We don't have anything good.
>>524256278It is fake, the whole "we need to keep birthrates high or have migrants" is only for pyramid scheme of social seciurity to work. It isn't even about economy as companies can sell their shit abroad where population is higher. Every single problem we face today is due to retirement and social security. People ceased to have kids because government will take care of them at old age, and it snowballed into proportions that are unmaintainable without migration. The only way forward is to cut retirement plans and alow old useless people to die if they have no kids to take care of them. It would also fix housing problems as it is old retired farts that hug housing in centres of cities where young people work and have to commute from suburbs due to retired people sitting in centre and doing nothing. There is absolutely no use for retired people in todays societies, but as they are the biggest voting base they are catered to by governments all around the world.Exterminate useless retired people and all problems with low birthrates, lack of housing, high taxes, traffic jams will disappear overnight.
>>524256278This whole shit is fake and gay.Fertility is a settled science. We know why birth rates decrease: gender equality, women's rights and female independence. The more your women are legally and financially independent from your men, the more they can follow their sexual instincts and orbit around Chads, the less they will marry average guys, the less they will have children.You can't tell me the fucking Russian government with all its institutions and secret services doesn't have a clue as to why population is declining worldwide.The only logical conclusion is that Russian and Western governments are fully aware of the root cause of birth decline, but would rather let fertility hit the ground and use it as an excuse to increase immigration, than remove women's rights and solve the problem for good.
>>524257527>We know why birth rates decrease: gender equality, women's rights and female independence.It isn't. It is social security which hits men as well as women. There are also plenty of men who do not want kids and want to live alone due to it.
>>524257609You're inverting cause and effect.Birth rate is a problem for social security, but social security isn't the cause of birth rate decline.Plenty of countries don't have full-fledged social security systems (e.g. the US) yet still experience birth rate decline.The root cause is women's rights.
>>524256278BTW Russia made secret demographic statistics in the beginning of the 2025
Historically it is mostly bad for the elites if the population decrease. It leads to lower competition for land and wages which means its harder for them to suck people dry.
>>524256278Urging means nothing because women won't do it regardless. They have to be made.
>>524256278Living content and cooperative lives is anathema to the new world order. We must be perpetually competing and striving for more. Never content with the life we have.>>524256993Welfare payments to the wealthiest generation in human history are bankrupting the future for young white people. It's sick and disgusting.
>>524256561Toilets
>>524256278Less people means life has a higher value. Life having a higher value makes gaining more money and power more difficult for those who already have more money and power than they know what to do with.
>>524257527>The only logical conclusion is that Russian and Western governments are fully aware of the root cause of birth declinePutin is a thief who poisoned opposition to get on the top. Who is good at slipping poison into your drinks. He is not good at rulling state, or economics or demography. He relies on experts in these areas. Who are experts in demography with education and decorated with scientific regalias? Some postmenopausal women. What advice can they produce? That is your answer.
>>524256278>Is it not totally normal for a population to decrease and then increase from generation to generation?>Famines, disaster and all sorts of issues decreased the population beforeI'm old enough to remember when tjose sere considered bad things, instead of a way for socialists to justify killing people or burdening people to the point of sterility for their own profit.
>>524256993100% this
>>524258309Does home toilet come as a service in Poland? Grim.
>>524256278welfare
Women's rights will start getting dropped country by country starting 10 years from now
>>524258429Many of those issues are just a natural consequence to a population growing unsustainable. Famine means food production cannot keep up with the amount of people.Disease is often a consequence of trying to pack too many people close together. Natural disasters are best handled by having either strong sturdy buildings (too expensive for everyone) or simply not being present where they occur ( not economically viable). If everyone in the path of a major hurricane simply left the area there would be no casualties, but the number of people involved and economic factors makes that impossible.The fact of the matter is life would be safer and more enjoyable with less people around.
We need to publicly execute billionaires and their families and nationalize their wealth that is what needs to be done.Low birthrates and women equality are not the problem.
>>524258572Cope :)
>>524259379I'm not the one who needs to invent a substitute for reality, Taras
>>524256278Population decrease means overextended kike landlords go bankrupt and wages rise. Anoda shoah...
>>524256993Elders used to have the dignity to fucking die. Nowadays? Respect my elders? Suck my cock instead you goddamn vampire.
>>524260138It was more that Elders used to pass on both information and resources to the youth in return for being able to live their final days in peace. Now they expect the latter while also spiting their children. Boomers are deeply ill.
>>524259135This. The only reason we need more "births" is because eventually the shitskins that they imported to shore up their own benefits that younger generations will never get to use will cause a cascading failure up to the national level, and they need more whites to unfuck their shit. It doesn't matter if they have the most monopoly money when the lights go out alongside the machetes and AKs
>>524256993The real red pill.
>>524258309>be the continent's toilet cleaner>first think that comes to mind is toiletsFlags check out at least
>>524256278They just make shit up as they go. It use to be about too many people, then their experts realized no we actually need more workers and taxpayers. It’s almost like China’s one child policy, but not as authoritative and retarded. They convince you with cultural and moral imperatives instead.
>>524256278At least he's trying. Western faggots are gloating about low demography.
>>524256278>>524256278>Can someone explain to me why population decrease is a bad thingThe rich ruling capitalist class needs meat soldiers for their wars and they need labor slaves - consumers for explotoiation make them richer.By not having children , you destroy their utopia of capitalism.They have to import their slaves from abroad which will create even bigger problems for them in the future. And they can not use the immigrants for their wars, unless they make them citizens.
>>524256278It will be way worse when russian womens emigrates to working civilised coutries>say thank you putin!
>>524256278The capitalism run amok!https://dl.depot.4d2.org/EF6Kxmfq6549.mp4https://dl.depot.4d2.org/U14SbLYBqgHn.mp4enjoy capitalism!https://dl.depot.4d2.org/ABrSYjUbuWSc.mp4
>>524256986So do something about it, nigga.
>>524261144Why can't they just get their kicks in some strategy games instead?
>>524256278Population decrease is good for everyone except jewish bankers and so called "governments" because economies are designed as ponzi schemes.
>>524256399>Less taxpayers, less money to run essential servicesBut also less people needing them, dumbass
The old man is starting to show signs of living in la-la land. Nobody short of an Oligarch (like himself or his friends) would be able to afford so many kids legitimately.
>>524256278le capitalism meme demands infinite growth including population
>>524256399>>524256986we have the best banking, tax, medical and government services in europe.maybe in entire world (not sure what china has).
>>524256561functioning gas stations
>>524256993>retirementno fucking idea why you and every other dunce cunt on this board/the planet can't keep it in your hollow wooden head that people fucking pay into a retirement fund their entire fucking working lives through their OWN tax payments and it is based on their job and how much they work. what the fuck is wrong with you repeating this kike nonsense that somehow people further down the line have to pay more to offset it.are you a retard cunt or just a fucking mindless faggot.the truth is that that money each person has paid in has been STOLEN AND ALREADY SPENT BY KIKES which is the real reason they want infinite slavery from birth to death of every single fucking useless cunt on the planet.kill yourself and free up some of that magic bottomless money hole burning through the earth's crust
>>524265535on top of that, most people will not live beyond retirement age starting.most men definitely won't. check the actual figures you niggers.they just about reach retirement age after paying in for 45+ years every fuckin pay packet, and then they die.where does that money go? straight into the kikes' pockets and you STILL want to suck their kike cocks and say it is your grandparents fault, and you want to call them parasites and leeches when all their money, all their life's work has been stripped from them and handed to a pay of workless kikes.you really should kill yourselves because you are so kiked in the head you're worse than a nigger
>>524256278You don't understand! Green line has to go up because... IT JUST HAS TO OKAY?!
>>524265535Unfortunately due to increased costs, inflation etc. retirement funds don't actually cover everything. Like over here it's half paid from the retirement funds and half comes from worker payments. Shit was way poorer decades ago.
>>524256278>Green line? Red line? Who cares!>Spams the board with company numbers red, company numbers green when politician he likes/doesn't does anythingA lot of retards apparently
>>524256278you won't have many decent responses here because the place has been filled with brainless zog-controlled fuckwits that repeat whatever they've been fed by the media, while still believing that the "thoughts" are their own.through pure logic exactly what you've stated and questioned is perfectly logical and reasonable.they present as usual only two possibilities, the kike's forced dichotomy:>1. infinite population 'growth' forever which invariably MUST be through third world shitskins flooding in and loving for free forever while they rape/rob/kill and generally destroy our civilisations.>2. total instantaneous population die off from 100+ million to 0 within a year if you don't import shtiskins.not one single ounce of thought.question; what was the population of russia, japan, germany in 1950?what was the population of Europe before and after the black death/great plague?
>>524266220the money is owned by the government, meaning it should gain.it's simply stolen, disappeared and forgotten.
