This confuses and enrages the Europoor.
Europeans can't use wood because their entire civilization will burn down with how often they start world wars
>>524296935only twice so faryou'll catch up eventually though
>>524296880>>524296935We insert wood in your women, not in our house foundations.
>>524296992I dunno man. The Punic Wars were the first “world wars” in human history. At least according to historians. Even China was involved in the Rome vs Carthage fight. That was Europe vs Africa. That was beyond 200 BCE
>>524296880Pressed sawdust sucks real wood smells so nice and last longer and almost everything from IKEA is pressed sawdust
>>524296880I'm pretty sure they have graham crackers in Europe
>>524296880Have you even been to Europe you filthy lake shitter?
>>524296880American houses are made of wood because trees were an abundant resource to the early colonists. This is not the case today, 2x4 used to mean 2x4, not 1-1/2 x 3-1/2
Slave mentality
>>524296880Literally half of stuff in Ikea is built from this?
>>524296880IT ALSO ENRAGES ME AAAAAAAHHHHHHH
>>524296935Plywood under a certain thickness is stronger than ordinary hardwood. Also internal furnishings are made of combustible materials, that's why fires occur even in cities whose structural members are mostly brick.
>>524296880The red clay brick confuses the NA server.
>>524296880Adobe’s better>cheap to make>naturally regulates temperature >lasts centuries>doesn’t burn down >doesn’t rot or attract pests>low maintenance
>This confuses and enrages the Europo- ACK
>>524296880graham crackers?
>>524296880The funny thing is: the building where I go buy my wine is older than your country
>>524297573cob is even better
>>524297590the stupid fuck was living in an unfinished home. you dont need to watch the clip beyond the first second. i know jeets dont know about construction but at least make some fucking effort
>>524297787your nation is a fucking joke. who cares how old your wine shop is
>>524296880I prefer MDF to particle board, im a wood snob.
>>524297937Hahaha cope
>>524297360That’s not plywood though it’s particle board. The bastard of all engineered wood materials
>>524297573You forgot melts above a certain humidity. You'd have to fire it specifically and choose the correct clays to make it last everywhere.
>>524296880Wow, Canadians have multiple graham cracker sizes!
>>524297801It does look pretty cozy desu
>>524296880>>524296935Do you really think we don't use fucking chipboard?
>>524297269>graham crackerscame to post this.
>>524297590huh? the house has no roof?if the roof were there, there is nothing wrong with that ceiling. obviously it's not designed to withstand rain...
>>524297993>copeat least i can shoot the niggers here
>>524298063Yeah true. They’re best used in hot & dry places like southwest US & Mexico. Regular brick would be better everywhere else. Sucks that we were cucked into living in popsicle stick houses that break down within decades
>>524297801LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION
>>524296880That’s 40% of swedistan’s economy tho
>>524296935That's wood like paper is wood.
>>524296935that just says more about amerimutts being subservient goy cattle
>>524297185The only good use I found for high density MDF is work bench top. It's basically perfectly flat from the store, then slap a sacrificial 1/4 melamine sheet on top of that. It's a fucker to cut though with all of the dust, need to have good dust extraction or do it outside.Particle board and regular mdf is just landfill waste
>>524297185There aren’t that many trees left suitable for making furniture. You need long planks free of knots. Even higher end places these days use nice planks to make thin veneers and then use particleboard or some other composite as the bulk of the mass.
We use MDF here in Europe, we're not plebs
>>524297573You have to go back paco
>>524296880Particle board sucks and contains potentially harmful chemicals. I prefer real wood
>>524298459The entire west coast is on a massive fault. Brick is a bad choice
>>524298165Euros on this site like to pretend their houses are made out of solid granite
>>524298723>>524298781I thought the thread was about Furniture desu, isn't tree farming a thing ?
>>524296880The fuck you mean bro? Every euro furniture is made from that shit they love it. You have never seen ikea?
>>524298925Yeah, the outside and structural walls are usually some manner of brick or concrete, usually breeze blocks (pic related), but the floors, non-retaining walls, stairs, etc are still all studded out like they would be in an American house. I'm only after putting down a load of chipboard up as an attic floor after replacing the insulation between the joists with Kingspan. Cheap, does the job for putting boxes on, saves anyone from putting their foot through the ceiling of the rooms below.
>>524298825Them shits is deadass bulletproof nigga. We can’t even fathom bullet resistant houses here. Why are we stuck with cardboard houses. Oh right, I think I know (((why)))
>>524299098Yes, tree farming and timber is still a thing. You'd more often see ply with the veneer then edge banding for furniture unless you want to get into real money for something like a wide dresser or coffee table or anything that needs a larger continuous piece. Smaller stuff you can still get reasonably priced wood.My comment was more about the work bench where I make stuff, using the mdf as an easy surface that's flat for assembly.
>>524296880Yeah what the fuck is this, inside look like chipboard outside look like MDF?
>>5242968801) Bizquits®©™2) Blisskwits®©™3) ???4) Briskwads®©™TEATIME?
>>524298925It's something better than granite
>>524296880How so? Isn't that what Ikea furniture is made of?
>>524296880What the fuck are you talking about, Ikea furniture is made out of particle board
>>524297993Wow, gottem
>>524299375>but the floors, non-retaining walls, stairs, etc are still all studded out like they would be in an American house.What the fuck no. Only unitedkingdomians do that shit!European houses have reinforced concrete floors. Solid slab or picrelated.
>>524296880is that particle board sandwiched between MDF?
>>524297149the assyrian chudout was the first one
>>524299924>European houses have reinforced concrete floors. Solid slab or picrelated.Apartments, yes. Semi-detached 2 bedrooms? no.
>>524296880No, it confuses moisture. Bamboozles it even.
>>524299742In terms of insulation maybe, but granite has a lot of thermal mass.Not as efficient, nevermind cost effective, but in warmer climates granite should be fine if you can afford it.Not gonna be easy to install fittings though, or even hang a picture, so likely you'd end up with drywall on the interior, both for insulation and convenience.>too cheapMaybe. You could go with hardwood.
>>524297993>mfw my wine shop has only been around since 1988 and also it’s not a wine shop but a liquor store built into a golf course staffed by people who have never had anything more expensive than Franzia
>>524296880Tell me s'more.
>>524296880Tarp pallet house is best for Ameripoors- t.Ameripoor
>>524300312>Semi-detached 2 bedrooms? no.Yes they do though? From Pirot to Belgrade I have been around semi-detached houses and the floors are undeniably concrete.Even ground level fully detached houses have a concrete ceiling more often than not.
>>524298721World War 1 and 2 were the most ultimately pointless wars in human existence, they also happened to be the bloodiest.
>>524296880I love constantly breathing formeldahyde bro. So good for my lungs.
>>524297937Nigger violence in the US is still orders of magnitude more rampant than nigger violence in France
>>524300633None of which matters when you put 10cm of styrofoam over it.
>>524296935
>>524298058It's plastic with wood chips in it so they can enjoy those xenoestrogens.
>>524296935It's because they chopped down all their forests during the industrial revolution.
>>524301572Fuck that game was way cooler than it's competitors at the time. I remember actually coming to blows with me friends over who was able to get to the alien mech on that one map.
>>524296880What do you mean, Sweden makes all of their Ikea crap out of MDF
does /pol/ really not know anything about construction?I thought you guys were basedhere's a video explaining it for pleb NPCshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4XDPt66ukQ&tTLDW: it's size, space & cost issue.
>>524299098The problem with tree farming is how long hard wood takes to grow. Most tree farms are fast growing softwood like pine that grow to maturity in ~30 years. And even then they are still fairly small in circumference. A proper hardwood that is wide enough to create nice boards for larger furniture take closer to 100 years to grow. It isnt so much an issue with cost vs time, you could still profit equally well with growing the hardwood. The issue lies in the fact that most tree farms are owned by individuals and are treated as a retirement plan. Instead of investing into a 401k, they purchase a tree farm and expect the returns in ~30 years to be their retirement income. Which is fine, just makes the soft pines the only viable choice. Nobody is really doing the hardwood in scale because you dont live to see the profits. And corporations are fine with going the veneer route so there isnt any incentive there either.
>>524297269>>524298188We live in gingerbread houses…(I mean not me, I live in a brick century home because I’m not poor)
>>524297086show real flag? you won't
>>524297787>>524297993>United Cuckdom : 1688>USA : 1776>Parisian Oligarchy :1848 at earliest.>China : 1949>India :1950>Russia : 1991Imagine being younger than the JewSA.
>>524297276I love inspecting the real lumber and beams we used to use. I often see 200 year old tile roofs still in perfect condition. It’s amazing the craftsmanship. When you guys see those old timey 3 story Victorian houses with the steel pitched roofs, remember that those men were climbing rickety wooden ladders all the way up. It really is incredible what they were able to do back then. And yes, materials were of significantly higher quality.
>>524297360Yes, plywood is way better than solid boards of wood. OSB is actually better than plywood in certain respects.
>>524298835you know these threads are hilarious because worldwide now they don't even use real wood any and all over the world building is using shit like particle board to or osb to build shit due to cheaping the fuck out
>>524303563It's mostly air with a cardboard honeycomb inside, actually. It's hilarious.MDF is literally high end furniture material. Melamine chipboard is average low tier.
>>524296880one post by this street shitterfrom Wikipedia:>In 1932, Luftwaffe pilot and inventor Max Himmelheber patented a process for making particleboard without fully impregnating wood fibers with adhesive, distinguishing it from earlier wood composites
>>524296880It kinda does enraged me.
>>524306758Workmanship often wasn't as good as people think. No trade schools or anything no qualifications, a lot of the work was just some retard off the street who said he knew what he was doing
>>524306895Plywood is strong but it's not good at staying flat
>>524296880>they build houses out of shortbread
>>524296880Are you retarded or just pretending?>flagOh, carry on.
>>524296880idk what that is but it looks really yummy
>>524307193If Cleetus refuses jury duty they can just eat themselves in.
>>524296880> cardboard wallsYou know that we don't do that in Germany, right?
>>524296880I don't see how, considering that's the nasty shit Ikea uses in everything.
>>524296880indeed - i wouldn't build my garden shed with this shit...either solid wood or gtfo
>>524308663lol
>>524296880>expands and dies upon a drop of water
>>524296880it's veenered chipboardThe kind that looses structural integrity fast when the core gets dampIs this some miracle product to you OP?Because the only thing crap like that is used for in Europe is ikea furnitureis stuff like osb some miracle to you to?fucking retarded primitivemagaAmerica=subsaharian african tier retarded>>524297026The US was always a short term project for Europe
>>524309244He knows also Slava Ukraini and I hope you still have a Merry Christmas despite those revolting kremlin scumbags
>>524297360that's not plywood retard. that's particle board. it is used extensively in Europe but people don't generally use it as a primary material in home construction
>>524296880I fucking LOVE Graham crackers
>>524296880Jeet
>>524296880Have fun moving a wardrobe made of that up a staircase.
>>524300312>Semi-detached 2 bedrooms? no.These 6 by 1 meter slabs cost ~$150 a piece, and have laod capacity of 800kh/m2.It's piss cheap to make floors and ceilings out of them even in 1-story house.
>>524296992>t-two for two isn't a trend!words of a man who's about to go for round 3
>>524309362>e but people don't generally use it as a primary material in home constructionNobody does. American homes are framed with solid pine boards, not plywood nor particle board. The latter wouldn't even work if you tried, the whole house would be in a pile like a plate of spaghetti.
>>524299098absoludidad it is
>>524296880*Blocks your path and fucks your shit*Particle board is actual garbage.
>>524297787>winewhat are you, french?
>>524298723>>The only good use I found for high density MDF is work bench top. It's basically perfectly flat from the storeYou best have some proper lumber supporting it from below, because that shit sags like rubber when it ages.
>>524296880What, why? Proper furniture board
>>524304325>>Most tree farms are fast growing softwood like pine that grow to maturity in ~30 years. And even then they are still fairly small in circumference. >A proper hardwood that is wide enough to create nice boards for larger furniture take closer to 100 years to grow.There are many hardwoods that grow fast or are farmed anyway for other reasons so their lumber is a cheap byproduct. Rubberwood is a prominent example, and is extremely popular for furniture.
>>524296880thankfully im not brown
>>524296880Eurotards Haven't discovered air conditioning yet and literally die when it gets a little hot outside lmaoooo
>>524296880My house is 620 years old. My walls are made of 70 cm solid stone.My garden shed is made of wood.
>>524298723>It's a fucker to cut though with all of the dust,it's literally not more dust than any other plywood let alone just natural hardwoodsgod my own country is dying to the safety nanny retards who think everything is special and trying to kill them
>>524299742If I lived in the Balkans I would settle for nothing less than a steel reinforced concrete bunker.
>>524296935FPBP
>>524299943Ja.
>>524296880I told my European friend these were fig newtons.
>>524309259The secret is to not get it wet. Or seal it up. It's not hard to do.
>>524296880Not really. We tried that during 60's and 70's and soon realized thats most retarded material ever to use as buiding material.
>>524296935Eurohaitians have already completely depleted their softwood forests. Sad!
>>524297360Thats not plywood, retard.
>>524297149>200 BCFixed that for you kike
>>524296992lol you think youre getting out of THE JEWcraine without a world war?you dumb, nigga
>>524297573>Mudhut :|>Mudhut, Tacoland :O
>>524296880we use a ton of this, it's called IKEA and usually only gets used for a few years. what do you do with it?
>>524296880Is that some kind of jewish holiday bread?
>>524298353What's your body count, LARPer?
>>524314067It's birch jerky
>>524296880yeah I would never touch this shit, we have real bread
>>524300633Schiefer ?
>>524296880>confuses and enragesindeed Shitwood can piss off anyone
This confuses and enrages the POC's.
>>524296880Compressed sawdust sold as (((wood)))
>>524296880That will be 900,000 dollars sir
>>524296880>>524296935>>524297086
>>524313364Columns are enough
>>524313045I literally have had air conditioning as long as I have been alive. I have six of them right now and I want a 7th for the radiators, a heat pump.
>>524297535The uneven window bothers me.
>>524315381Well you better find boyfriend that has the right type of penis you like but I'm not sure why you would post this except to advertise what a collasal gigafaggot you are
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>>524297276So buy them rough cut faggot...
>>524297086You insert glass bottles in your ass and break them starting a war.
>>524301694Our major cities dont cancel events because of niggers
>>524296880woah graham crackers for walls fuckin sweet bro!
>>524306534EU flags are always poos same with catalan
>>524298063Just add a little Portland cement into the mud when making/mixing the adobe
>>524296880We use that for cheap house furniture
>>524297787I have a bathroom older than US
>>524318662I have clovis culture finds from my property that are older than France :D
>>524296880Im confused and enraged
>>524313045Here in my cunt there is no house without air conditioner
>>524296880bro hard tack fueled the western expansion we wouldn't have america without it
>>524296935they can't use wood because they chopped all the trees down 1000+ years ago
>>524296880This crap is called “iverica” hereThe worst and cheapest wood based material
>>524296880And I HUFF... and I PUFF... and I... oh the house has already collapsed on its own
>>524296880we use it here to make doors and various furniture but building houses? c'mon man
>>524298721>We're so based and independent blindly following our leaders' orders to our deaths for wars that don't mean anythingYes if Austria annexed Serbia than Russia would have collapsed and then France would have and Germany would have conquered the world.
>>524298293He got hit by a hurricane despite being pretty far inland. I think a tree or two fell on it also. Gif was from LGR on YouTube
>>524320569I've seen that way webm before the Nyquil Addict's pad got hurricane'd.
>>524299392fred flintstone's house
>>524297573>it rains
>>524296880We have trusses now Its pointless to complain about plywood. Modern homes are 100x studier then turn of the century crap
>>524296880Saaaaaaaar ah Saaaaaaaaaaar
>>524296880>This confuses and enrages the Europoor."Chipboard (particleboard) was invented by German businessman and inventor Max Himmelheber, who patented a process in 1932 to glue and press wood waste like sawdust and shavings into panels, aiming to better utilize timber resources."
>>524296880That shit is garbage. Falls apart if it gets wet, is prone to mold. Has very little lateral strength
>>524297573The watermark says "Adobe", which is funny considering the picture.>>524297535Look at the columns of the entryway. For some unknown reason, the left one is split in half. Plus, the doorway in the bay window is unnecessary.Other than that, I'd love a copy of this house.
>>524297590Looks like the roof got ripped off in a hurricane. The amount of lightning looks like a hurricane. That can happen if you open a door on the windward side, because of pressure. They have discovered a way to mitigate that. It's called third nail or something. How do they build roofs in Europe without wood? Truly curious
>>524299375Please don't use particle board or chip-board anywhere. It poofs out upon exposure to moisture. Even under humidity it becomes sawdust again. Even as flooring in an attic, it is no good. I put my foot through some and stopped my foot before it went through the drywall.No good, George.
>>524309751You ;)
>>524296880>sweep up the sawdust from milling and logging operations>bind it with glue and sandwich it between veneer>"engineered wood"
>>524296880Ikea furniture is made with that
>>524296880We have this stuff too, we just don't use it to build houses. Not often. A house should be something passed down from generation to generation. A way to build generational wealth. Something not only to live in, but to pass to your children and grandchildren. Wooden houses exist here too, but they are seen as a poor persons choice, a reason they never build real wealth. It's a selfish choice, prioritizing your comfort over the good of the family.In time my brother and i will be left two flats by our mother, and my wife will be left a house. With this, having built some wealth of our own, we will be able to give each of our kids a starter home. My mother also owns two small wooden houses, but inheriting those will come with some difficulties.With wood, the repair and maintencance costs are high, the older the higher. In the end the land will be more valuable there, the houses will probably have to be torn down.
cant tell if graham cracker or cardboard home
>>524325842the wood itself isn't what goes bad that will rekt youits the hvac/boiler, roof, plumbing, electrical, foundation, windows, and septic (if rural w/no sewer). the wood is cheap/easy to replace, the rest aren't. sheetrock is at least cheap/easy to replace vs plaster and you can insulate under it which improves energy costs. plaster is terrible when you have to fix any of the above, more difficult to repair.
>>524325842you not just an idiot who knows nothing about construction. you're an idiot who knows nothing about geography. fucking moksha biowaste.
