Why do so many Boomers worship usury and become enraged at the idea of debt relief for non-billionaires?
Because they worship jews
>>524300325we didn't get a free ride in this life you little faggot, why do you think you're entitled to one?
>>524300325>we wouldnt want you to get out of paying your debt, after allwhat if its federal income tax debt?
>>524300325Because their brains are without function. Never even got the idea to use them.
>>524300699>we didn't get a free ride in this life>boomersnot free, just the cheapest
Why are they so excited about people going to hell too? Do these retards not read their own book?
>>524300699The guy who made the tweet is a lawyer who does well for himself. His position is that the modern American system of financial usury and enslavement is fundamentally evil and should be dismantled rather than reinforced.
I'm mad at the idea of debt relief for everyone. Simple as.
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>>524300699>Looks at inflation.You kinda did get a free ride asshole.
Get the government completely out of the loan business. No direct loans, no loan guarantees, zero involvement at all. Guarantee that at least 80% of the "we were tricked so we shouldn't pay" crowd will be against ending the government loan programs.
>>524300325It's not usury though
>>524300325>Give a business loan to a barely legal 18 year old with no job>Business doesn't make any money!>Bankruptcy>Should've invested your money better!>Give a student loan to a barely legal 18 year old with no job>They can't find a job!>NO NO NO YOU CAN'T DECLARE BANKRUPTCY>I GET TO HAVE SUPER SPECIAL FOREVER AND EVER LOANSIt's just not responsible to let lenders do this.
>>524300325People who borrow money are honorary jews and should be treated as such.
>>524300325Saint Joe Biden made it illegal to discharge student debt via bankruptcy in 2005.
>>524303329Borrowing is irresponsible. All lending is technically charity unless backed by violence.
>>524303905Actually it's investment. Charity is done without the expectation of a return.
>>524304060>generating poverty is an "investment"shalom
>>524304133>You shouldn't lend money irresponsibly>If you do, you shouldn't be shocked when you don't get your money back>Actually loans are charity and also make you poor?>And you're le jewishI just think people should be allowed to declare bankruptcy on student loans.
>>524304243I just think people who take loans are already lower than dirt so it doesn't matter if they live or die.
>>524304516Were you abused or neglected by your parents?I'm asking because I'm noticing a pattern.
>>524304608Pattern: people who give/take loans are gamblers who shouldn't be trusted, not even once.
>>524304630This seems avoidant.
>>524300699yes you did faggot
>>524304630You are mentally ill, like most Indians
>>524304653Historically, people who messed with the value of money (like loan sharks and the ankrupt) would be put to death.Accusing me of having person troubles or relationship difficulties is a red herring designed to draw attention away from your weak arguments against my case.People who loan money on interest are evil and should die.People who take interest loans are evil and should die.
>>524304716>implying that whites live and die their entire reproductive cycle within the jewish interest trap>if u don't take loans ur not white(tm)lol, lmao even
>>524300699>my life was shit so yours should be too!Misanthropic incel politics
>>524304761I don't see much of a reason to engage with your direct notions because you're not actually engaging with my argument.If I say:>We should let people bankrupt out of student loansAnd you say:>We should kill lenders and borrowersWe're not having the same conversation. I'm posing an argument and you're just saying your opinion at me.
>>524304858Your appeals to the Overton window don't work here.Bankruptcy is treason, it means you don't respect your nation, it's people, and most importantly its financial system.
>>524304813dont you know we live in a debt based society? Every dollar we get for our work is just debt. We are trading other people's debt. If you understand the monetary policy of the West, loan forgiveness isnt a bad thing.
>>524304924No, it means you had to liquidate assets to pay back the loan.While usury is outright evil parasitism your stance against bankruptcy is retarded.
>>524304924if we didnt have a debt based economy I would agree with you. Our monetary policy is to ensure the jews get their money every year and due to baked inflation all those interest payments are increased.
>>524305078>loan forgiveness isnt a bad thing.loan forgiveness devalues currency, which is treason.
>>524304924I'm simply not interested in playing devil's advocate for you.
>>524300325What's the point of relieving student debt?1. You just make it so the currently indebted people don't have to pay it back. The people who go to college right after them, the next generations, will have to pay theirs back. Pushing for this, and not e.g. subsidizing higher education in general comes across as incredibly self-serving.2. People with higher education go on to make significantly more money than people without higher education. So you're allocating tax payer money to help a group of people who will on average be significantly better off. Why do you need to forgive the loan of a doctor? Why do you need to forgive the loan of an engineer? Those guys will pay that off incredibly quickly. Wouldn't it be a better allocation of money to help in some way the people without higher education? The store clerks? The McDonald's employees? Again, this comes across as thinly-wailed opportunism at the cost of the general population, and that includes those people in lower income brackets. You want them to pay for you, despite you being way better off financially. That's just ridiculous.
>>524305139then gain power and abolish the federal reserve and reset all debt. Until this happens you will never be debt free. Filing for bankruptcy only is for a portion of your debt. If youre receiving dollars you immediately get back into debt.
>>524300699what entitlement did the banks have to get bailed out.
>>524305186no the federal reserves monetary policy devalues the currency by default. That's the whole point. The current is devalued to benefit the jews.
>>524305203to grow the economy. It allows people to spend more money on things.
>>524305293jews member banks federal reserve.
>>524300699I'm willing to pay back my student loans.I just don't want to pay 8% in interest.The government shouldn't be profiting from this.
>>524305359You can make that argument for giving tax payer money to any group of people. Why not give it to those who have less? The college educated people will be fine, while the former group will struggle to make ends meet.
>>524300647bingo
>>524300839Nah, they are right but for the wrong reason. Forgiving student loan debt is already happening and has been for a while... For blacks. I've talked to many black people that have told me they have had their student loan debt paid off for them automatically so they just didn't ask questions. Same as how illegal beaners have kids at an American hospital and never see a hospital bill. They write it off immediately. There should be none of this for those people. There should be that shit for native people who were born here and have had to "pay" taxes their entire lives and the illegals should have to pay for it. So, yeah boomers are right, but for the wrong reasons.
>>524305445Oh, good! Because they don't. Private banks now get the interest money or at least a portion of it.
>>524305203The people would pay them back if they could, but they can't because wages are low and hiring is slowed. The core of the problem is that these people:>The store clerks? The McDonald's employees?Are the people who have unpaid student loans, and if they're not forgiven their debts, those debt payments will be subsidized anyway by food stamps & welfare. All that's being done is assure that these people will be in debt forever and that The State will ultimately pay more for this irresponsible lending over the coming years than they would if they just let the loan companies take the L through bankruptcy.
What the fuck would I want to pay off democrat voters debt?
>>524305743youre not paying off their debt, retard.
>>524305770I pay taxes you retarded fagggotEven if i didn't, fuck those terrorist pieces of shit make them pay their debts until they die
>>524305743You shouldn't, loan companies should take the loss through bankruptcy discharge for buying bad debt.
>>524300325They have been social engineering behavioral modification to make populus more sociopathic dark triad specifically running hard on solipsism and narcissism. Gone are the days of "looking out for the next generation" instead the new tradition is passing the buck and dumping all the problems and issues onto the next generation to fix because we all want short term gains . Most likely because people think the end of the world is coming any day and solving future problems when the earth is going to burn up is a waste of time and energy. Virtue out the window. Everyone's looking for their own hand out. And they still expect fairness.
>>524305447people who are for 'debt forgiveness' are economically illiterate and have no sense of fairness or objectivity. obviously someone has to pay for the cost of the schooling. obviously it should be the person who received the loan and signed for it. obviously if loans were forgiven, everyone would just take them out and default on them and then thered be no loans available anymore. but the entitled dopes who cant pay back their loans will always have some lame excuse for why it isn't their fault and they shouldn't have to pay back the money they took. its like arguing with a christian.
>>524300325Except ppp loans. Those don't need to be paid back because it was for the rich. Or bank bailouts, those are also for the rich.
>>524300647Loan me $100, fren. And by loan I mean give.TIA
>>524305711Many of the college-educated people can pay their loans back. Like the doctors and the engineers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the people pushing for loan forgiveness aren't asking to only do it for those who have debt and are struggling financially, they are pushing for a blanket loan forgiveness. Given that, you shouldn't look to the extremes of people in debt, you should look at averages, and on average college-educated people are doing much better financially. Hell, having a degree is helpful even when you don't use it. For certain jobs your promotions are blocked above a certain level, unless you have any college degree. If you're worried about bailing people out who got useless degrees, then push for that, not for blanket loan forgiveness. That's just insulting to the lower class. And again, this doesn't address the issue of new generations taking out loans. Those aren't subsidized. You're not helping them out. You're only helping those who are currently in debt, which is oddly convenient.
It isn't forgiving the loan, it is forcing tax payers to foot the bill. The correct solution is to hunt down and execute all international bankers and their families.
>>524306018These are straight up niggers, they expect other people to pay for them. I hope Trump takes further than a garnish, I hope he establishes a debtor's prison so these niggers can work off what they owe.
Every other nation in the first world gets "free healthcare" Every other nation in the first world gets a free college education. The only thing in the US that's free are the billionaires. Muh taxesMuh taxes. Us taxes go to chomos and organized crime. A college degree is mega overvalued. Ever generation since millennials bitch about how hard it is for grads to find jobs. At least if you make under 45k a year you have monthly payments of 0 dollars. Graduate degrees don't get grants. I hope everyone's pensions get raped.
>>524301374So businesses can take out government loans via fraud during COVID and all is forgiven. But we can’t allow that for students.Spoilers. It is because Americans hate their children
>>524306018>people who are for 'debt forgiveness' are economically illiterate and have no sense of fairness or objectivity.The thing you're opposed to is the Magna Carta.>obviously it should be the person who received the loan and signed for it.There's nothing obvious about this. The system you find "obvious" is actually horrifying and a political 3rd rail in most of the world. It's only possible in the United States because we're governed by foreigners who hate us.>the entitled dopes who cant pay back their loansAnd what about the entitled dopes who made an irresponsible loan? Again, you're avoiding the very valid question: Why should student loans uniquely not be dischargeable through bankruptcy?
>>524305186>muh X devalues currencyCurrency is devalued at a 2% target every year regardless of student loans or whatever other government program. You need to be 18 to post here by the way
>>524306280>on average college-educated people are doing much better financiallyI've only ever seen this argument made in the context of very specific metrics like "Among those who have a job, and only counting the following major, and averaging across everyone including ivy league graduates" which doesn't convince me that $100k in loans for a state college degree leaves someone better off than a tradie or a garbage collecter.
>>524305743Why would you want to support and prop up the leftist university system by enforcing their current system? That's not an honest complaint, because universities are the institutions which actually got the money. But no conservatives are even talking about making the universities pay any of this debt.
>>524306018'Debt forgiveness' is only being pushed as a concept because Boomer lawmakers refuse to allow normal bankruptcy, which is the way other debt is handled. So it's either debt enslavement for tens of millions, suppressed fertility, etc. or some form of writeoff. Normal bankruptcy would also be fine, but nobody in power is willing to allow that for some reason.
I'm okay with it if they cancel the debt and leave the creditors out to dry but usually they just pay the bankers with tax money instead(that's what biden did)
>>524300325Liquidate and LiquifyGÖYLENT GREEN IS BOOMERS!!
>>524306767You should move there.
You'll find that usury is in fact a crime and you can use the law to get rid of your debts.
>>524306018>thered be no loans available anymoreGood. Usury is strictly rentseeking, it's pure economic waste. It's inflationary and encourages irresponsible behavior both by the uneducated poor and by the rich financiers smart enough to know that if they spread their net wide enough they're guaranteed to receive a bailout.
>>524300325they grew up in the time where the world was "capitalism" vs "communism" so they chose capitalism whose core value is "make money and care about nothing else". They literally worship money because they see doing anything else as an enemy "communism". I see this mindset in almost every gen x and boomer I talk to.
>>524301180>abolish interest>no one wants to loan anyone money anymoreThe only way for an economy to exist without loans is total centralized communist control.
>>524306626Most debt-slaves just want the university or bank to take the hit, because the university’s and banks made a bad investment. Universities would have more of an incentive to get their grads hired if it meant that loan would turn into a loss. Couple that with immigration and it’s no surprise society is at. You faggots make me laugh though, get the Jew dick out of your mouth or openly admit you love kike cum
>>524307617Literal fucking retard. I smell a kike.
>>524300699>we didn't get a free ride in this life you little faggot, why do you think you're entitled to one?How much money has the US spent in bailing out companies and other countries?
>>524307176What kind of message are you sending to young men and women when they are not required to pay their debts.This is how the world works, you fucking loser.In simpler terms, as, despite your degree, I do not believe you are particularly intelligent; PAY AS YOU GO AND YOU WON'T OWE.Merry Christmas, nigger, maybe Santa will pay your bills for you this year.
>>524307390Too bad I was born in America and can't claim refugee status. Can't move out of country because I'm fuckin poor.
>>524307817You can pay back your loans or kill the person you owe money to. Its how organized crime does it.
>>524300325Nobody paid for my fucking college I had to drop out of law school in my first year. There is NO WAY in hell I am now going to pay for some stupid fucks degree who should never be anywhere NEAR a college campus, fuck that and fuck you.
>>524307767Look at this greasy little spic vehemently fighting for gibs.You are not coming here ever, use what little brain power you have to improve your situation in your toilet.
>>524300647Yup. They literally worship the jews as their living gods and masters. Boomers are polytheist satan worshippers, in league and working closely together with their jewish masters.>>524300325You might not be aware of this, but many boomers are openly devil worshippers, and they perform rituals alomgside their jewish masters, including child sacrifice.The boomers attained their worldy wealth by accepting the devil’s bargain, through his emissaries here on earth, the jews.
>>524301071>>524301071Did you? I would guess no. Never. From Genesis to Revelations. But... you will sit online and act as if you are an expert on a book you NEVER read.
>>524306816You won’t understand it until you learn that the people here are truly, and purely, supernaturally evil. Be careful in muttfuckestan.
>>524307750Yeah I clocked him too.>>524307617Small Interest isn’t usury.
>>524307817It's not an individual moral issue; it's a systemic issue. If it were one dude with one loan, that could potentially be a question of personal ethics. But with a $2 trillion pile of debt weighing down on younger people, we're looking at much larger problems implicating the entire economy as well as collateral issues like the birth and marriage rate.To solve systemic issues, you have to look at the entire system, and look at where the money actually ended up. In this case, it ended up with the universities. Therefore, any policy which does not directly go after the universities is not a serious policy, and is very possibly a distraction designed to protect the universities and their scam. Garnishing debtors is mostly retarded, since few of them are actually hiding substantial assets. Most of them are already struggling (hence, their nonpayment), and grabbing a chunk of their meager incomes while ignoring all those gigantic university endowment and Boomer administrator salaries is (as the guy in the tweet hints at) a great sin against the future of the nation.
>>524306767>>524307835Everyone in america that I know is trapped here specifically due to the medical stuff. Everyone’s savings vanish twice per decade when something happens to them. It’s a bolshevik slave camp and we’re not supposed to notice.
>>524300935Your generation is lgbtq hence demonic hence you will pay more taxes to the jews.
>>524300325Mahler Sounds jewish.The crabs in a bucket theory also seems to apply to whites
>>524300325Increasing the rent within lawful limits is not usury, okay.Everything gets more expensive and I too have to make ends meet.t. landlord
>>524300325> debt reliefHow about tax relief?
>>524300325Why should I, a poor white man, pay for Shaniquah's Nigger Studies Master Degree?Not like I have representation in government, so I will eventually be forced to pay for it anyway through inflation or direct taxation, but that is why I oppose it.I will support student loan forgiveness for every white person who has paid back the entire sum of their principal adjusted for inflation. But that's not on offer, so you can eat shit.
>>524308152Founding fathers would be stacking bodies like 20 years ago. America is dead. Long gone. Can't even leave America . Still gotta pay taxes.
Its funny how both sides of this argument have their grievance against a shitty system. The obvious answer is to let China just buy America and make it a communist vassal state.
>>524303329You are fucking pathetic. Meanwhile you ALL sat on your asses being fed housed and clother while everyone else lost everything in the Great Recession of 2008. Then these delusional fucking punks will tell you how good you had it. And if you WERE lucky enouigh to recover from that downturn your were fucked again by the Covid recession. And then there was the dot com bubble and the stock market crash of 1987. There was NO work, I went in the military. Then my first REAL job as an extruder operator in a plastics recycling mill went bye-bye thanks to NAFTA, leaving NOTHING but low-paying service jobs for everyone Clinton screwed over. And then Clinton reformed welfare ensuring all the people whose jkobs he just cost them wound up home;ess and starving. But yes let's listyen to the delusional whine asses on /pol/ tell us how we were all getting rich on 3.35 an hour. My advice to Generation X, Boomers, and the oldest millennials... spend every goddamned penny you make. Do not leave a single penny behind for these worthless, ungrateful fucks. Max out your credit cards and finance a luxury car too, so you will be deep in debt if you KNOW you are going gently into that good night. Fuck these assholes. NO better than niggers whining about reparations.
>>524306921>Why should student loans uniquely not be dischargeable through bankruptcy?read the next couple lines of my post. thats what happens if people dont have to pay back loans.>>524307248you dont understand normal bankruptcy. here's how it typically works--some guy gets a loan because he has established credit and he has collateral worth like 70% of the loan (he has land or machinery or product inventory). but his business fails and so the bank takes the assets he used as collateral (that land and machinery and inventory) and reports his bankruptcy so his credit is destroyed. the bank at least recoups some of its losses, and now his credit score reflects his lack of creditworthiness. contrast this with a college kid: he has no credit. he has no collateral. no one will give him a loan unless its non-discharchable through bankruptcy. because if that kid with no credit and no collateral could default on the loan via bankruptcy, OF COURSE hes going to graduate with $300k of debt and then just say, "i declare bankruptcy! thanks for the free money!" and go on his merry way. do you get it? someone eventually has to pay for that $300k worth of schooling. it shouldn't be the taxpayers. and it shouldn't be the banks who were engaging enough to give you a collateral-free loan either. and its not the schools who gave you a degree in the major of your choosing. its you--the person who took out the loan. if you dont like it, go to a cheaper school, community college, rotc, work straight out of high school, etc.you aren't entitled to free money.
>>524300325>take stupid loans>pay back stupid interestbillionaires and banks should not have been bailed out either
>>524303904>>524303904Helped with the three strikes law, into effect jailing for life all those black people, he swears he identifies with.
>>524308822The only thing you don't need to take out loans for or pay insurance for in the us is a gun.
>>524308822As expected, you are running cover for the system. The universities are obviously the most responsible party for this entire mess, followed by their sponsors within the government. The 'students' were mostly just conduits to transfer money from the government to the university system. If you're not discussing how to take the money back from the universities, you are just spewing pointless blather with no relation to the actual issue.
>>524306767>>524306767Did someone not explain this to you? Are you trying to change laws or make further education more affordable and help get an actual policy through by passing laws, or ballot initiatives. Nope, too much work. You just want free shit because other countries give their citizens free shit, but... they are paying exorbitant taxes for their "free" shit. Nothing is free at the end of the day.
>>524304630But loans are how money is created.
>>524307932Hard to tell if this is a parody of a dumb Boomer, or an actual dumb Boomer. You already 'paid' for all of that shit (not really, since the government runs on debt rather than pure revenue) because it will never be recovered via garnishment because that's not where the money is actually located. The actual pot of money is in the university system.This should be obvious by now, but apparently not.
>>524305186>loan forgiveness devalues currency, which is treasonSo does inflation. Why does every single central bank in the world target 2-3% inflation a year? That is devaluing the currency.
>>524309161Imagine doctors and professors were paid 50k a year.
>>524306111You should look into witch (kek) companies took out a lot of those loans *cough* ITServe Alliance *cough*
>>524309018>The only thing you don't need to take out loans for or pay insurance for in the us is a gun.That would be fucking dumb now, wouldn't it? If you are forced to defend yourself with deadly force, things will go a lot fucking easier on you if you have insurance. You'd better sure it's justifiable homicide, though. And the insurance will pay your bail and for your lawyer. You can go it alone but if you know the law, and abide by it, you will be much better off with insurance.
>>524303329>with no jobwhy not?
>>524309229I didn't pay for shit. And I am not going to. No reparations, no loan forgiveness, NONE OF IT. I will live like a pauper before I will let the undeserving feed off of me.
>>524307817>This is how the world works, you fucking loser.You're completely captures by belief same as Christians, any religious people for that matter.
>>524300647Fpbp
Boomers aren't opposed to loan forgiveness; it just has to be the right type of loan:"A significant portion of the pandemic loans, specifically the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans, were forgiven. As of recent updates, approximately 74% of the total dollar amount of PPP loans has been forgiven, equating to over $583 billion."
>>524307932My mom paid for university by simply working summer jobs lol.I also would work days and nights over the summer andbI still have student loan debt.
With the US taxpayer money Trump gave to Argentina to prop up their failing economy, they could have ameliorated student debt at least for students who were studying before the 2008 financial crisis and expected jobs they wouldn't get while jew banks got bailouts
>>524309407What homicide isn't justifiable?That nigga dead. Its already knowledge. The same people who get insurance are the same people who get antivirus programs.
Millenials are greedy little fucks.Boomers build this modern society.They deserve some benefits from their labor.
>>524300647FPBP
>>524307617Why are jews able to get 0 interest loans just fine, schlomo?
>>524309717Every generation has been coasting on the glory of the WW2 generation. Boomers are bootlicking narcissists just like the rest of us.
>i don't wanna pay back my loan>Trump is going to lose the next election because he's making me pay>why should i pay anyway*you are here*>still not paying>what do you mean you're taking half my wages>and the house my parents had>or what equity is in it after the estate is settledOP you need to practice this - write Charlie on a disposable cup. Do it a hundred, a thousand times. Faster now!
>>524304761Loand sharks didn't mess with value of money.Coin shavers did. Now think what central bank does when "expanding money supply".
>>524304858We should ban lending of fiat money.Law suggestion: it's only legal to loan physical gold. Lending of anything else including surrogates and derivatives should be banned under capital punishment.
>>524300699Except you did
