People were all moral and traditional until the mid 20th century, when Europe adopted Social Democracy and so did America (well, Social Democracy Lite was adopted with the New Deal, then victory in World War II sealed the deal, then the Great Society took off).The Boomers, the first generation in history to grow up with guaranteed poverty relief, no hunger, guaranteed housing etc. -- they turned into narcissistic monster. It took the span of ONE GENERATION to go from moral and traditional and decent people to decadent and deceitful and sadistic people. Then, every generation since the boomers has gotten even worse in terms of narcissism and self-serving behavior and lying. Here's the deal. Humans cannot be both morally good and prosperous. The two are mutually exclusive.So what's the solution? FeudalismFeudalism is the way of life of every single civilized society pre-industrial revolution. Sure, there were empire before industrialism, and centralized states with strong administrations, which didn't look exactly like medieval Europe, such as Imperial China in the ancient and medieval and early modern worlds, but still, all these societies had local strongmen and local families calling the shots and administering the highly centralized state the same way European dukes and marquises and barons did. They were nobles, aristocrats. Feudalism was universal; some local dynastic family ruled an area of the kingdom under the king's ultimate authority and in the king's name.Feudalism is where land is owned by the king alone and he grants it as fiefs to underlings (nobles) who grant it as lesser fiefs to lesser underlings (like knights) who have peasants who are bound to the land of the lord they serve and are forbidden from leaving that land and who work the land in order to survive and to pay much of their extra produce to the lord, who pays much of his extra produce to his lord, who pays much of his extra produce up to the monarch who owns it all.
>>524306375During the feudal period, which spanned roughly from the 9th to the 15th centuries, life expectancy was significantly lower than what it is today. The average lifespan varied widely based on factors such as social class, health, and living conditions.Average LifespanThe average life expectancy in medieval Europe ranged from 30 to 40 years
>>524306375>This is what rightoids actually believe
>>524306375This system makes everyone moral and decent because everyone is a servant. Even the lords are serving higher lords and the king is serving God and constantly having to negotiate with the Church and its bishops/officials. No one is fully secure, there are no guarantees of safety against downfall and losing everything. The state is not backstopping anyone's destruction. Humans can only be good in feudalism. Humans can only be good in subsistence economies; abundance brings wickedness. "For the love of money is the root of every kind of evil."Well, you give money to one generation, then your society goes permanently to hell.There is now no undoing the decadence that Social Democracy, implemented in the mid 20th century, has wrought. Our prosperous societies are destroyed. We will fall as a civilization and the survivors will revert back to feudalism. Our descendants will learn, once again, what it is to kneel down at the feet of your local lord and lady and proclaim their gloriousness and specialness under heaven. The guaranteed security from economic calamity is also why Third Worlders are so much morally superior to all Western and West-adjacent peoples today. Third World people have commonsense. They have decency. They have empathy. They are not narcissists. All this is lacking in the prosperous nations with Social Democratic programs. We'd do better, to improve the moral fiber of our societies, to be importing hundreds of millions of Third Worlders. And Second Worlders remain quite good too. Russia, for example, has few social programs. In the USSR, homeless people were arrested. Unemployed people were sent to prison and made to work in prison. Hard times make good people. Simple asEasy times make monsters. And the monsters bring back the hard times and make people good again, and this is where we are meant to remain for all time: in poverty, serving our superiors in a feudal order.
>>524306531People cannot have better and remain moral and decent.It's sad, but it's a quirk of our DNA as a result of our evolutionary path. We can't have both security and decency.
>>524306643So how do we cope with the necessity of materially deprived, struggling lives?The same way as always, the same way all our ancestors did until the 1950s or so: religion.We accept this life is terrible and cope with it by calling it a test, then we place our hopes in a life that comes after our deaths where somehow we can have security and abundance yet also be good. Pre-social democratic peoples lived for the next life, not for this one. This life is but a test. If you pass the test, you get non-poverty and moral goodness. "Live your best life now" is just decadent trash that only a smug, self-satisfied, narcissistic society could have come up with. Religion is the key to it all. Religion justifies the feudal order, comforts the commoners in their struggles, binds everyone, rich and poor and noble and common, in service to someone else, and gives us hope that something good exists on the other side of death's door since good isn't to be found here.
>>524306568And you leftists believe that being hedonistic, lying, self-serving egomaniacs is somehow righteous and you are full of yourselves especially as concerns your moral rectitude over both rightists and over all previous people to live on the earth.
>>524306919Actual leftists understand vapid hedonism is the result of a jew broken capitalist society that has left us with nothing to believe in but consumption and subservience to the rich Reclaiming connection to labour and community and upholding service to that community as the highest virtue is Leftism
>>524306375Imagine wanting to become a peasant. You truly are pathetic. As an American you should be ashamed of yourself. Didn't read by the way.
>>524306375>People were all moral and traditional until the mid 20th centurymy great-grandmother got pregnant out of wedlock in 1910. when researching how irregular this was, I have found the statistic according to which one out of 11 children in our region were born out of wedlock during those decades. as for crime, still earlier documents show a paranoia against nighttime crime in the XVIIIth century that far surpasses the level justly warranted for Chicago today. you weren't supposed to leave your courtyard during nighttime without a torch, and even with a torch you could only go until you reached the fourth house from yours, unless you were one of those emergency personnel (doctors, midwives, priests) or someone provably going to call them. this was enforced by a kind of citizen's militia. such examples abound and show christian europe to have been a lawless shithole immune to exaggeration.
>>524307552You are arrogant, narcissistic, self-absorbed, and wicked. Diagnosis: Too much prosperity and freedomNature will reimpose the natural order upon us anyway, so don't expect America or modern republics/democracies to last.
>>524306375socialism is not fair
>>524308631There are always criminals. What matters is how ordinary people behave, and in social welfare states their behavior is antisocial and vile. This has never existed before, since all traditional societies were, by necessity, communal.
>>524309148It has nothing to do with fairness. Social guarantees of wellbeing, like safety nets, turn people into monsters: liars, cheaters, manipulators etc. When you have to rely on your community to survive, and cannot get things with money because you barely have any, so instead you need functional social relationships, this forces people to be good and decent.
>>524306375You're dumb, bro
>>524309558You're unwilling to face the hard reality.But nature always wins, so we'll go back to feudalism inevitably, since the natural order of things cannot long be denied and social systems will not long tolerate decadent and corrupted populations who destroy even their own families and communities.
>>524309415>There are always criminals.I thought OP claimed there were none during the christian theocracy period. let me see:>People were all moral and traditional until the mid 20th centuryyup, that's the text. how does this square with crime and crime awareness much worse than our time could hope to produce?
>>524309703I mean moral decency among ordinary people, which is what existed in all traditional, communal societies and which is what has been lost very rapidly with the welfare state.