>be me >anon dreaming of nuclear renaissance >unlimited clean energy bro >thousands of gigawatts, no more fossil cope >west finally builds 100+ big reactors >suddenly realize >Reactor Pressure Vessel needs one massive seamless steel forging >like 500-600 ton ingot of ultra-pure steel >only 5-6 factories on the entire planet can even make these >Japan Steel Works has like 70% of the market >China has a couple >Russia one, Korea maybe >Europe? lol no >America? lmao we shut down Bethlehem Steel in the 80s >haven't made a single one domestically since >lead time now 5-10 years per vessel >costs hundreds of millions each >demand about to explode >everyone wants reactors yesterday >supply chain completely choked >can't scale because presses are literal nation-scale infrastructure >takes decades and billions to build new ones >regulations make it impossible anyway >SMRs? pressure tubes? cope >still need heavy forgings for a lot of designs >mfw the real bottleneck isn't uranium or regulators >it's a handful of ancient mega-forges in Japan and China >mfw unlimited energy was always possible >but we forgot how to make the pots
>>524325417Steel is by definition *not* pure. It is an alloy of iron doped with a small percentage of carbon and some combination of other elements in order to achieve the desired properties. In the ideal case the starting iron is as nickel-free and pure as possible, and likewise the alloying metals, so perhaps that's what you mean by "pure".
>>524325732You're right that steel is an alloy; it's intentionally doped with carbon (~0.2%) and other elements (Mn, Ni, Mo, Cr) for strength and toughness in grades like SA-508 Gr.3 used for RPVs. When people (including industry reports and manufacturers like Japan Steel Works) say "ultra-pure" or "ultra-clean" steel for nuclear forgings, they mean the base melt has exceptionally low residual impurities like phosphorus (P < 0.010%), sulfur (S < 0.005%), copper (Cu < 0.05%), and other tramp elements that cause neutron-induced embrittlement over decades. These impurities accelerate radiation hardening and brittle fracture risk, so modern RPV steels are made with vacuum degassing, electroslag remelting, etc., to hit those ultra-low levels; way cleaner than standard structural steels. It's not about being "pure iron"; it's about minimizing the bad stuff that neutrons love to mess with. The intentional alloys stay, the garbage gets purged.
>>524325417have been working on different manufacturing industries my whole life and this is basically the story on multiple different crucial technologies, we used to flip shit from 50s to 70s like it wasn't even a problem and during 80s we have had only a steady decline in all fronts, like people think everything is done and we are set for life
>>524325417So you are telling me that nuclear pressure cooker there is a single piece of forged steel?
who is mining the most cobalt?
>>524325897You will merge with AI and live in the metaverse, there is no need for stupid industries.
>>524325417one of bethlehem steel's forges is still running under a different name.lehigh valley forgehttps://lhforge.com/
>>524325417brroooooooo its cool we will just build the data centers in space haha less need for cooling and better solar capture spacex will save us lol
>>524325417Be me, read your post, realize you´re retarded after researching for 2 minutes.https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/reactor-vessel-completed-for-hinkley-point-c-second-unithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framatome"The reactor pressure vessel for unit 1 at Hinkley Point C was completed at Framatome's Le Creusot facility in Burgundy, central France, in December 2022.">Europe? lol noApparently, Europe, yes lol.
>>524325417Cool story Bro
>>524325990Yeah, pretty much. it's not one single massive forging from a single ingot like some sci-fi monolith, but the key parts (especially the cylindrical shell around the core) are made from a handful of huge seamless forged rings, each one shaped from a 400-600 ton ultra-clean steel ingot under insane 12,000–15,000 ton presses. Those rings get stacked and welded together circumferentially (horizontal welds only), with zero longitudinal seams in the critical "beltline" region where neutron radiation hits hardest. That's why it's way safer than older designs that used welded plates with vertical seams everywhere. The heads (top and bottom domes) are often single-piece forgings too. Basically, it's as close to a "single piece of forged steel" as you can get for something the size of a house that has to survive decades of neutron bombardment without cracking. That's also why only a few mega-forges on Earth (mostly JSW in Japan, some in China/Russia/Korea) can make them, it's nation-level heavy industry.
>>524325732Steel is one Iron and 2 coal.
>>524326326sometimes americans genuinely believe nothing is made in europe its actually pretty fascinating what techtards have done the real reason europe fell behind was a lack of competitive tech industry but otherwise they outproduce americans >>524325417look up nucor
>>524325417why make such stupid forgings. fusion can be nano scale. on a chip. or it can be as big as a star. there is no size restrictions to the ultimate nuclear power. fission is leftover garbage of unstable isotopes. yes its still powerful but its dirty and dangerous and shit
>>524325417Tough luck, buddy. You forgot your VPN and meme flag, last night itzhab must have been intense. Mr. Schlomo is gonna chew you out.You are on BBC spam duty tonight, merry christmas.
>>524325417This is why i doubt ww3 will happen, the west doesnt have the industrial capacity, or will take time to get back to it by then the war is lost.
>>524325417so what? globalization makes it unnecessary for all countries to do everything. the US is the financial center of the world and that is what we have been transitioning to for the past 50 years.
>>524326377Impressive.I think most countries would be capable of building such presses but there is no motivation to build them, probably cheaper to get them forged in Japan or whatever country.Example, America is capable of building such huge presses if the finances are available:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heavy_Press_Program
https://lhforge.com/productsmarkets/commercial-nuclear/COMMERCIAL NUCLEAR POWER GENERATIONLehigh Heavy Forge produces a full range of forgings for the commercial nuclear power industry including; steam generators, pressure vessels, reactor vessels, and storage casks. All of these components are forged, heat treated, tested, and finished machined in accordance with a quality system compliant with the ASME Code Section III, NCA 3800 and RCC-M specifications.Shells including integral nozzlesHeads/DomesTube sheetsClosure headsFlangesRisersSupport SkirtsStorage Casksop is full of shit
Which specific mega forge/press was shut down? Last I checked they were all still in service receiving regular upgrades and maintenance.
>>524325417This is one of the reasons why the AI bubble is inevitably going to burst, because it's impossible to build the many required NPP to run them in just few years. And we would need many experts to operate them, experts that don't grow on trees either.
>>524326483its not even "tech" that the US leads on, but SPECIFIC tech, like social medias, mass storage, consumer and server grade processing chips.EU still does military chips, automotive chips, automation chips, communication (erricson, nokia), Dram, 4G/Radio/wireless, satellites.ASML isn´t even the only one thats important in global production, Zeiss is just as important if you want optical zoom that can 600x an image from a satellite to earth.
I process through my line 40,000,000lbs of aluminum a year and the facility I work at is legitimately a small in the industry.but I thought thats anecdotal and not steel so I googled and the first result "Sheffield Forgemasters (UK) known for world-record 600+ tonne steel castings"so I respect your concern but see it as potential bs
>>524326660>>524326267Lehigh Heavy Forge is ASME N-stamped and does great work on nuclear-grade forgings, no doubt; they make shells with integral nozzles, domes/heads, tube sheets, flanges, etc., all to nuclear specs. But the core bottleneck for large LWR Reactor Pressure Vessels (like AP1000, EPR, VVER) isn't just any nuclear forging; it's the massive seamless rings needed for the beltline section, forged from single 500–670 ton ultra-clean ingots under 14,000–15,000 ton presses to avoid longitudinal welds in the neutron-irradiated zone. Lehigh's biggest press is 10,000 tons and tops out at ~285-ton ingots. That's enough for smaller components or SMR parts (they were tied to B&W's mPower program back in the day), but not the monolithic ultra-heavy rings that Japan Steel Works (JSW), China First Heavy, Doosan, or OMZ Izhora routinely produce for gigawatt-scale reactors. US lost that specific capability when the old Bethlehem-style mega-melt shops and bigger presses shut down decades ago. Lehigh is the last big open-die forge left in the West, but scale matters here.
>>524325417>Reactor Pressure Vessel needs one massive seamless steel forgingWhy tho?
>>524326270And don’t forget autonomous electric cars with built in dildos in the seats to increase the gayness of your car.
>>524326577Wake up! Globalization is a threat to national security.
>>524326471This, its so simple why do retards even still debate it?
>>524326765This is key national infrastructure. The largest press we have has city blocks dedicated to the infrastructure just to operate it. I would be surprised if even Obama or Biden allowed something like that to be shut down.
>>524325417>regulations make it impossible anywayin the 1960's, boomers were told that they could have unlimited sex with whoever they wanted if they didnt criticize israel and the holy hoax and their kids would be taken to reeducation and they would be enslaved to pay for it if they did
>>524326913That's what I'm thinking. I think OP is a lying faggot.
>>524326913> I would be surprised if even Obama or Biden allowed something like that to be shut down.Rly?
>>524326471Kek underated
>>524326515>what is critical mass
>>524326515>fusion can be nano scale. on a chip. or it can be as big as a star. there is no size restrictions to the ultimate nuclear powerbullshit dumbass, even "aneutronic" fusion needs space for its alphavoltaics
>>524326853Boomers fucked America.
>>524325887This. Its also why coal-fired powerplants cannot be converted to nuclear as easely as traces of radioactive carbon make leak detection that much more difficult.
>>524325417America is pathetic. All this thing does it make my house smell like shit and sometimes it blows up every once in a while
>>524325417I live a few miles from a coke plant and it sucks ass, cancer rates higher everywhere in the city, step outside and it smells like shit. I'm all for the steel industry but something needs to be done about the pollution
>>524326565pretty much. the ruling class here is running on ai hype based on the fact that the last productive industry in the west was computer hardware design. the design of a gpu is known and the west has no fabs
>>524327234How do you do fellow yinzer
>>524327253wait until you smell a paper mill or orange juice factory
>>524325897Agreed. It makes me sad and angry the damage boomers and their (((masters))) brought to our nations. The AI bubble collapsing and fucking boomers retirements because their short sightedness in the 80s getting rid of critical industry would be pottery.
>>524327298>OJ factoryWhats that smell like?
>>524327234> i hate little kid milk boxes
>>524327253If you're too much of a liberal faggot to appreciate heavy industry then fuck off to your enclaves like Somerville Massachusetts or San Jose you nigger faggot.
I made a steel cube yesterday.
>>524327147you can turn hydrogen into a neutron but thats particle physics beyond your current understanding
>>524327332The boomers were clever in their way. They guessed that they could avoid investing in any of that infrastructure, saving the money for other pleasures and bonuses and pensions and so on, but still get the benefits of that technology for the rest of their lives since it wouldn't run out before they were dead.And they were about right. The median boomer will be dead by 2035, and it does at least seem like everything will last until then. After that? Well...Apres moi, le deluge.
>>524327352like rotten fermented sugars
Bottleneck for this. Bottleneck for ship building, bottlenecks everywhere because we don't do shit until bezos or musk sneeze
>>524325732Very low amounts of the things it's not supposed to have. Retard.
>>524325897Now we gargle american balls when they throw us poisoned breadcrumbs. They killed our offshore industry in the crib, they butchered Nokia, they scammed us with paper mills. Every deal we make with them is just another assfucking with no lube. This country deserves what is coming.
>>524327286>>524327253Yo. I grew up in Lincoln and Liberty and this thing would make it foggy and smell like tires on a summer night
>>524327449nice would use it as desk ornament. how did you make it, press?have this one, guy made it on lathe, I was like no way can't make cube on lathe so he made me one. I'm just office drone tho.
>>524325417Not only that nearly any modern industry has a stupid bottleneck. The chipindustry is completly depended on a german company (zeiss) making mirror. A mirror takes a year and us doesnt allow them to sell to china, thats why no modern chinese chips. The hard disk company is dependend on some area in thailand where they make the needles (years ago there was a flood doubling the prices like forever still not the lowest hd prices per tb restored). And all pharma industry. Like any major medicine needs a base product they produce just on one place on the planet (sometimes india or china kek). It goes on and on
>>524325990>ID literally FUCKYouHahahahaha
>>524326081Impressively retarded statement.No you wont merge with AI and you'd need heavy Industry to maintain the Infrastructure anyway ffs.
>>524325887Thank you ChatGPT. What would we do without you?
>>524327753I used 6mm stainless steel, cut all the pieces with a grinder then welded them all together. I started learning how to weld this week so it's actually my first thing I've made.
>>524327753That thing looks really cool btw
>>524325417can we 3d print em?
hehehe we don't need to forge we got soshul media and shartofficial el-el-ems and debt ceilings fondling the heavens!
>>524328075would have never guessed it's welded, guys at company where I work everything they weld is porous full of bubbles and what not. not that any kind of precision is required there, it's just wood processing industry.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. In Norway, they had to rebuild an entire plant because the contractor used the wrong concrete and didn't know how to make the proper mix. In another western plant, the tolerances were so far off they had to demo it and scrap the project. Let's not get started on the decade or so it will take to train reliable operators out of a public that is dumber than ever.
>>524325417I think the joke is that it's still smaller than a locomotive.Turns out you can't run reality on hot air.
>>524327400>t. lives in Carson California
>>524326471Based Factorio engineer
still makes me sad- even with fusion reactor nuclear technology, that we still need this gigantic forged pressure vessel, just to boil water. A glorified gigantic kettle. So sad bros.
>>524325417You ignore the reality that the US allowed corporations to move production offshore. And then instead of subsidizing production, they did nothing and allowed the other nations which subsidized production to completely undercut our prices.
>>524327400Get ewing sarcoma and die irl kike
>>524329462If you want, you could try considering the implications of an open top reactor vessel. Maybe then you'll stop whinging about retarded shit.
>>524329462>>524325417Lol if it's such national security then get the government to buy it out and start it up again. Pussy ass faggots won't do it though because muh free market n shit.
>>524329462IT'S JUST BOILING WATERALL OF IT
>>524326860welds are weak points that can incorporate trace undesirable impurity elements
The feds are now talking about putting nuclear power plans on military bases not only because they control the land but because it was always about giving their military uninterruptible power. Civil users be damned.
>>524325417Make smaller reactors in the meantime then. Recovering from technological decline will not happen overnight.
>>524326377Impressive
>>524327253when will modern peoples realize you can't outrun it only displace it on others, and we should have stayed building stone and slate cottages and burning wood.
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>>524325417I actually want to start a big steel mil but lack the funds and the know how it any technical experience whatsoeverBut I wanna wear a big top hat and destroy rotary phones in my office while my army of employees shave away over the forgesFr tho it would cost something like 2 billion to get one up and running, and it's not "profitable" to even run them because of cost of living and other factorsI wish heavy industry would return but I don't know how it would work
>>524325417keep your shitty forges, america has the hottest onlyfans e-whores. they're our new national treasure.
>>524325417Bro I predicted this 10 years ago. Not only was manufacturing offshored, so was the machines that made the machines. Boomers and kikes sold the machines or IP to foreigners who copied the technology. That's what will truly prevent a resurgence of western manufacturing. And by some miracle if it does come back, the products will be expensive and the jobs will pay like shit because of the aforementioned kikes.
>>524330042
>>524325990>id: fuck yo
>>524325417You can thank JEWS for forcing everyone to rely on oil, and also blocking nuclear reactor development.Also nuclear weapons aren't real. The only nuclear weapons are dirty bombs. Jews need to equate infinite free clean energy with DEATH KILLING EVERYONE to scare everyone into not using it.
>>524330413Like most amazing achievements done by jews, it was faked and used as a front for money laundering.
>>524326471Or one iron and one coal if you use a blast furnace
>>524330543>>524330605Did you remember to take your meds today?
>>524326853Hitler and Mussolini tried to tell you that Autarky is a good thing, Amerimutt.You didn't listen.
>>524325417bullish for reneweables
>>524330751If we didn't give TV manufacturing to Japan they were going to make VCRs for the commies!
>>524325417>everyone wants reactors yesterdayThey really don't. Nobody is building new reactors in the West.
The Reddit tier fusion energy bros don't realize that kind of absurd mining operations that would become profitable with nearly free energy. Someone must restrain man.
>>524327590Don't forget>joined NATOAll it really accomplished was getting Helsinki placed on a nuclear strike map, so maybe it was a good thing?
America forgot how to do anything. We have been reduced to a service economy a long time ago. Service economy = servile nation.
>>524331826Sure is nice for the oligarch class though, so much money, so many servants.
Pakistanis in dirt floor shops can run a vertical lathe. Being a machinist was never a high paid profession unless you worked for a government contractor.
>>524329462In 20,000 years, humans will have extremely advanced power plants, which will still boil water and use steam to turn turbines.
>>524332119>dirt floorIt's gravel, and it's for a fucking reason.
>>524331659Silver fucking lining. Let them fly!
>>524325417>nuclear>unlimited>clean energy100 strokes of the cane for stupidity
>>524325417We could have been exploring the moons of Jupiter right now, but the boomers decided they'd rather have cheap labour and ethnic food.
>>524330750The gall of you low IQ inbred schizos to call others mentally ill lmao.
>>524325417>only 5-6 factories on the entire planet can even make these>Japan Steel Works has like 70% of the market>China has a couple>Russia one, Korea maybe>Europe? lol nohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Forgemasters
>>524325417>America? lmao we shut down Bethlehem Steel in the 80sthis one hurts. so much engineering and metallurgical expertise has been lost with the death of our steel industry.
>>524325732Imagine not understanding chemistry enough to say something as mind numbing stupid as this.
>>524334003>sheffield forgemasters >The two forging presses in use can exert a force of 4,500 tonnes and 10,000 tonnes on a billet of steelunfortunately that’s basically a micropenis press in the world of heavy presses
>>524334003>when you open it and immediately see "nationalized">when you remember what that meansYou might be a tard.
>>524326024Might actually be Canada as a secondary product from various mines across the shield and the salt domes..
>>524334322Regardless, they forge reactor pressure vessels.
>>524334088There is a greater game being played than your little steel mill.
>>524325417>https://www.nuscalepower.com/
>>524334341How does them now being owned by the MoD change anything?
>>524334342I honestly love watching the fake hate between Canada and the US.Neither country functions without full exploitation of transportation across the Great Lakes.Of course, it gets even funnier when the feign hatred turns genuine for whatever fucking stupid reason.
>>524325417Could just design a reactor with low core pressure and no containment building. Basically an RMBK minus positive void coefficient.
>>524334438>thread about civilian reactors and infrastructureI don't know, maybe think about it for longer than zero seconds?
>>524325417I just think that the west has more Jews thus more useful infrastructure was shut down. Can’t they just convert a dockyard or a shipwright to a foundry anyway? I mean.. lmao
>>524328075what welder did you get? is that mig or stick?
>>524326565Nice flag, ((anon))).The idea that WW3 won't happen till everyone is ready is the exact opposite of why wars happen, especially the last two big ones. Buckle up. Everyone is rushing to prepare because everyone knows what's inevitable.And if (((THEY))) think it's inevitable, the only reason you're shilling otherwise here is because you're working on Christmas day. Disgusting.
>>524325417>export all your industry because you don't want to pay your workers properly>realize you can't make anything anymore>realize you helped make china the biggest world power >still seethe about some guy making 15 bucks an hour to flip burgers>shill for war against china after you gave them 10x more industrial capacity because you hate white workers so much>import millions of shitskins because you hate white workers so much>etcAt least the managers (kikes/wasps) got to fuck over organized labor right?
>>524334513They don't just make stuff for the MoD. They are involved in all sorts of industries, all over the world, and not just nuclear.
>>524327253Two options;Get cancer and die at 70.No job (regulations=no industry) and starve to death at 5.
>>524334577Does the phrase "longer than zero seconds" mean anything to you?No? Maybe you should consider it for longer than zero seconds. Give it a few to set in that you are a shortsighted retard refusing to engage with the topic at hand.>it thinks government takeover is indicative of a healthy industrial sector
Just make two reactors so the valves can be half the size.
>>524325732Go back to riddit
>>524334745Did you fail geometry at some point in school?
>>524326377How come the Japanese can do everything?
>>524326871
>>524334716Right now they are involved in civilian nuclear power around the world and they were also involved in Nordstream before it exploded anyway.
>>524327513>you can turn hydrogen into a neutronlemme fire up the o`l cyclotron n test this theoryt. argonne lab
>>524334938hatred for jews anon, they were realllly fucking pissed about yids embargoing oil in the 30's/40's
>>524334938I have a question, ostensible citizen of the United States.Have you ever heard of "Detroit?"
Centralized electrical generating stations, be they powered by fusion or not, will still mean that consumers will have to pay an electric bill. As long as we're developing entirely novel energy-generative technologies, we may as well emphasize methods which eliminate the need to use transmission lines to deliver power. Maintaining transmission lines constitutes the lion's share of cost.I have devised both an intra-molecular fusion system which is compact and could easily produce enough power for a home when coupled with a thermoelectric plate (I invented the plate as well.) I believe that an even more practical system is one which I term, "gravitothermoelectric" in which the power of the atom is harvested without needing to produce fission or fusion. The discrete gravity of certain ternary chemical compounds can be leveraged in a certain way in conjunction with a photonic catalyst to generate large amounts of heat ultimately derived from gravity.https://mega.nz/folder/YE5RzaRK#FqKLdtp5sdwxYr_7A37mewSee: 17 December 2025
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>>524329462There are nuclear startups making electricity without boiling turbines
>>524325417>dear citizens, we the almighty elite of humanity have lost the utopian energy tech our ancestors worked and killed for centuries>but instead we dutifully spread niggers and browns into every last little town on earth for a global nigger infrastructure allowing us (your elite leaders) to efficiently niggerfy every aspect of society>you are living in the best time ever because of antibiotics invented 100 years ago and if you say otherwise we will put you into a gulag
>>524325732>soup is by definition *not* pure. it's water with some organic matter to achieve the desired properties. in the ideal case the starting water is as poop-free as possible, and likewise the other ingredients, so perhaps that's what you mean by "pure".
>>524325417Mmmmm radioactive If anyone is wondering what's the worst way to die its open ractor core radiation
>>524325732Why do faggots like you feel the need to be pedantic while also being wrong? This doesn’t really need explaining but if you dump a bunch of not iron or carbon into the mixture it won’t be pure steel.
>>524334938they are like half century behind in modern trends
Weird how you don't see a single indian flag in this entire thread.I thought they were the smartest, most hardworking perpetual near-future superpower in the world.
>>524337141They heard about being a pedant and decided to try it themselves without understanding what a pedant is.For instance, an actual pedant would mock your usage of "mixture" with the actual term, but that requires knowledge.It is an offensive(assault, not intended character) sharing of knowledge.Did this assist you?(please tell me if you understood what I was doing)
>>524327753of course you can make cube on lathe, what the hell do you think 4 jawed chucks are for?
>>524337914Pretty sure it's for holding the workpiece.
>>524326853Neutrons are the ones that fuck your shit up, thankfully I try not to spend much time get blasted by those
>>524338068>>524337914>>524327753Just start with square bar stock and cut off cubes of it with the parting tool, then bore out the insides from three directions. Easy lathe project.
>>524325417>europe doesnt produce stealare you on drugs?
>>524325732Damn bro, you thought you really GOTTIM with that reddit-tier comment, didn't ya??? lmao
>>524336729You'll straight up pass out and die the second you start getting ass blasted with those kinds of rates,
>>524326377Turns out neutron embrittlement isn't as big of a deal as previously thought
>>524325887Fuck off, chatbot, stop shitting up our board
>>524334620boo-hoo, niggaYou think these factories pollute and smell less when they're in China?You want US to be cucked by China forever?What a fucking buttercup.
>>524325417Grim.
>>524325417Literally not true. Multiple large forging producers in the US. They are mostly privately owned.
>>524327253Yeah that looks a little rough.
>>524325897>Need specialty die for manufacturing>It's of unknown composition and fuckhuge, so get insurance on it>One of a kind so have to get it reverse engineered to insure>Ship it to engineers, they crack it while testing>Several years before a new one can be procuredLol most people don't even know how bad it is.
>>524325417we don't have enough threads on manufacturing honestly
>>524339123Wrong.Please review your understanding of steel's tensile strength, and then look at how thick that fucking shit is.It's designed that way because it is, not because it isn't.
>>524325417If you go on CourseA they have a Ironworker certificate. I am not sure if there are any other forms of education for this field outside of working in the field. The Coursea class is tied to South Korea. It goes over how a foundry works.
>>524325417so does this have any implications for me?t. currently learning machining
>>524325417We can make those in canada. I literally built that shit for the first half of my working career. There were 4 pressure vessels shops in my city, they all shut down in the early 2010's. We have the manpower, skills and machinery right here in alberta.
>>524334545A lot of corporations would jump ship with China but unsurprisely China just steals all their shit.
>>524339665Why did everything shut down. No one needs this shit anymore?Or MUH CHINA.
>>5243384003 axis mill would also work with a couple of flips.
>>524339665We actually have the manpower, skills, and tools. What we don't have is a people will to pay and permits to exist because "Lol everything is illegal!" Faggots took over the government and we lost to communists who can't even measure.
>>524340000wait thinking about it , it could be done with a drill press.
>>524339898Japan undercut foundries with arc foundries, reducing costs by recycling metal. This basically made the metal industry collapse in the US. We don't have traditional foundries anymore, all of it is arc foundries.
>>524334003>not posting their new welding breakthrough in this specific field from that specific factory one job britbonger
>>524334531Yeswelder135. It's a flux core wire welder
>>524339898Overseas competition and the 2008 economic bust put the nail in the coffin. Our biggest customers were Russia and the Alberta oil sands. Russia stopped buying and the price of oil tanked. By the time the economy recovered all the shops had shuttered. There are a few tiny shops left but they dont do the major projects we used to do. Which really sucks because it was a stable and high paying job.
>>524336105thats once based off a German idea. I guess I shouldn't be salty over it but it was one project my university pushed for 20 years before being told to fuck off.
>>524337141Because there's no such thing as pure steel. Steel is either well made to specification or it isn't, and ignoring that fact is emblematic of what's silly about op's post.
>>524340309you voted for it
>>524339416There's not a good board for the related topics unfortunately.
>>524336105>>524340309I still don't see mention of the actual method.Vagueposting faggots.
>>524340431https://www.helionenergy.com/technology/
>>524325732>>524337141Reddit and its faggotry have been disaster for the human race.
>>524340091Sure. But a drill press is the same thing as a lathe, only you are using the world as a jawed chuck.
>>524325417Just post more pictures of huge industrial projects.
>>524340110What the fuck are you talking about?
>>524327768Well it is a company from the Netherlands that makes the machines for modern chips.That company is the one that needs the German company to make mirrors and lenses.
>>524340499>No construction even of testbeds
>>524340499>claiming 95%GOD FUCKING DAMN IT.
>>524325417I blame Reagan
>>524340998https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38
>>524325897that my friend is the story of the entire western world. our politicians, business leaders and rich were so fucking short sighted for an extra dollar today that they have handicapped our nations and it'll take decades to fix. if it's even fixable in places where we are becoming white minority fast
>>524325732>ackshuallying this hard
>>524340558true and interesting way to put it.
>>524340417Does /sci/ have no generals on manufacturing????? I looked at the catalog and it's somehow even shittier than pol's lmfao
>>524340499I thought he meant p Boron fusion which is very low yield in neutron radiation but gets lots of alpha particles which you can then just convert directly into electrical energy. A startup quite recently got funding for it 200m I believe. Also it won't work the key problem of beam current of 10^18 is not possible yet. We only get upto 10^12 if I remember right.
>>524326081>You will go to the gay club>And give up the bussy
>>524325417We just got steel companies locked in with Trump not sure what the entire problem is, just tell them to make Nuke Pots or whatever the fuck.
>>524340724https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb0rq5DsHXo&pp=ygUWYW1lcmljYW4gc3RlZWwgY29tcGFueQ%3D%3D
>>524339819The current Chinese leadership is crafty and understands how valuable in-house expertise is. They may let your foreign companies and factories in, but only if Chinese workers are staffing them at key points. Once the information on how to copy certain technologies is uncovered and made able to be replicated, that company is booted out with the might of the Chinese state backing its own companies making the same exact shit, just cheaper. It's a simple strategy that works because kikes are fucking retarded parasites that can't think beyond a couple generations, nor in terms of how to actually make shit because of sheer greed and their voracious ethnonarcissism. This is why we can't even properly supply our proxies in Ukraine and Israel, despite those wars being central to maintaining jewish power.
>>524342965/sci/ is a bunch of undergraduate engineering and math majors circle jerking each other
>>524339273yeah you got the biggest navy how can you not have good steel factories lol op is deluded
>>524344388>how can you not have good steel factories lol op is deludedwe don't, simple as. also US shipbuilding is shit, china, sk, and japan does most of the building now.
just copy China, they have step by step videos of how to do thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvBpV3ah_uA
>>524325417How bout National Forge in Irvine?
>>524325417damnI hate the loss of instutional knowledge
>>524345069chinks are building your ships? hard to believe
>>524325417>>can't scale because presses are literal nation-scale infrastructure>>takes decades and billions to build new ones>>regulations make it impossible anywayCan you explain more about these points please? I'm highly fascinated
>>524326913What are they called
>>524325417This is how innovation is created. Just find another way to do it.
>>524347235we're cooked
>>524325417>Reactor Pressure Vessel needs one massive seamless steel forgingGood thing civilian reactor vessels aren't pressurized water reactor systems>t PWS operator
>>524350748It depends.https://www.edfenergy.com/energy/nuclear-new-build-projects/hinkley-point-c/reactor
>>524325417it would seem that the people who control the money supply racket want usa and white people to lose because they are less than ideal slaves
>>524342965A board dedicated to manufacturing/infrasccture/logistics autism would be great
>>524347632Mega presses like these (mostly used for weapons but heavy industry works too) are incredibly expensive in all aspects so it takes the backing of a government to keep them going
>>524344158You deserve every bit of it filthy race traitor bastards
>>524347632See this thread for more information https://x.com/Object_Zero_/status/2004001120918573507?s=20
>>524327768Doesn't a single japanese company produce 90% of pigments for car paint? Heard about that bottleneck durig 'rona.
>>524325417Not just the massive forgings either. They need to be fast breeder reactors to fully utilize the fuel. Absolutely no one uses them for energy production so we're left with huge piles of radioactive unused fuel they call "waste"
>>524326515>fusion can be nano scale.By some definition, sure. But not any time soon. And not without huge amounts of shielding. Its one of the many reasons why Ironmans reactor in his chest is laughably impossible.As for your point about fissions viably. Fission is still very useful. Our current fissions use material that was going to decay anyway. so you may as well take advantage of it. It also decays into useful materials. Fission power is magnitudes easier to build, maintain and control.Fission should only be phased out, after we have plenty of fusion.
>>524325732>>524325417So what you're saying is>burn the coal>pay the toll
>>524337498They think this type of work is low status.
>>524330339>Fr tho it would cost something like 2 billion to get one up and running,Cash in your crypto and silver winnings, champ!You can do it!
>>524325417Fug, those take 5-10 years to build and are super critical. We're fucked if there is ever a prolonged conventional war.
>>524351180Seeking money instead of wealth is a common mistakes empires do. Many such cases.Spain IIRC ended because they sought gold instead of industry.
>>524325417>The ENTIRETY of America's Industrial Ecosystems, and their highly trained and nuance-skilled Tradesman, are gone.>P.S. hay cannot be rebuilt overnight, if ever.Does this about cover it?
>>524352568Better late than never. Start training.
>>524332177>"As a representative of Earth's science league, I can't express our gratitude in being given the opportunity to tour your alien spacecraft, Captain Blorgstar.">"Yes of course. Let's start with the reactor. In here, you will observe there are four planecasters. There are genetically enhanced psychics who work in tandem to open a portal to a dimension just below ours that consists of raw energy we call immateria.">"Fascinating! So your ship is propelled by telekinesis?">"Close. We found a method of using this energy to boil water, producing huge amounts of steam that----">*Human scientist collapses to the floor screaming*
>>524352547All of this because jews would seethe if White men had decent paying jobs
Do any of the new nuclear technologies manage to dodge this limitation with the steel pressure vessel? They're always hyped up but never built so seems unlikely.
>>524334938They were the original China, they copied everything but made it shittier and cheaper until they got so advanced that they started mogging foreign manufacturing so they got the rape correction in the 80s and they're not so cocky no more.
>>524351239>manufacturing/infrasccture/logistics autismawooga>>524351506beautiful>>524351771>You deserve every bit of it filthy race traitor bastardsI agree, but I'm not so concerned about the white race (we're resilient), jews (the whole planet has been exposed to the JQ in the last two years), or America disintegrating to a degree. These are all the side effects of an empire in decline- once the empire falls, real change and growth can begin to occur for the benefits of real Americans, not before. The country doesn't need the empire, quite the opposite of what our "elite" believe.>>524351990thx for the thread broskie
no u dontflibe.comread up jew poowhat u might need is the new co2 turbinecombined with flibe.comeverything is solved already by white men in 1949dymaxion car burning hydrogen with stirling engine exhaust waterkingwomen 0 money minorities inc jew booted/killer
>>524326781wow u dumbflibe.com
>>524330406we can easily onshore manufacturing by kingkill jewwomen 0$white men 1k room freeban univeristy, mental health, lawyers, and other bs like markets banks and university
>>524335174Hinthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_confinement_fusion
>>524325732What an utterly irrelevant and masturbatory post.
>>524325417We make gigawatt size designs just fine without pressure vessels.
>>524325417I am a metallurgist and 100% agree. That said it's never going to change in the west because our environmental policies and labor policies make it prohibitively expensive to produce these materials domestically. The largest industries left are pseudo subsidized and supported by US government contracts, especiallyfrom the DoD. Otherwise, whether or not you used chatgpt your description of high quality steel is accurate. Get rid if tramp elements (S, P, and Sb especially, Cu and Al above a certain level) and dissolved gases (O, N, H) in small quantities can have large impacts on the properties of the steel, but it is very expensive and capital intensive to reduce them out of the melt. Oh and it is moderately toxic to the enviroment, as much as I'd like it not to be, thermodynamics often makes it very difficult.
>>524356343CANDU (and other PHWRs) produce gigawatt-scale power (e.g., Bruce Power units at ~800-900 MWe each, Darlington ~880 MWe) without a single massive Reactor Pressure Vessel. Instead, they use hundreds of individual zirconium-alloy pressure tubes (each ~6m long, ~10cm diameter) inside a low-pressure calandria vessel filled with heavy-water moderator. This avoids the need for those 500-600 ton monolithic forgings entirely: one of the big reasons Canada developed the design back in the day. The catch is that the original greentext/post was talking about the supply chain choke for conventional light-water reactors (PWRs/AP1000/EPR/VVER etc.), which make up ~85% of operating reactors worldwide and almost all the big new builds in the West/China. Those do require the mega-forgings from the handful of capable sites (mostly JSW in Japan, China, Korea, Russia). CANDU sidesteps that bottleneck nicely with pressure tubes + on-load refuelling + natural uranium, but it comes with its own trade-offs: heavy water is expensive upfront, and the design hasn't seen many new builds outside Canada/India lately.
>>524352771>MFW warp drive boiler technician
>>524352959Yes see >>524357268But there is a catch. There are no solutions in engineering, only tradeoffs.
>>524346631We dont talk about that place
>>524325417So? What's your point?
>>524357268That shit has positive temperature-reactivity (the temperature go up => reaction accelerates => explodes), they're dangerous as fuck. There's a reason why even Soviets stopped building RBMKs
>>524358089Agreed.
>>524357819>here's what governments could actually do (cope or based edition) 1. China-mode subsidies>give forging companies 0% or 1% interest loans for new 15,000-ton presses and vacuum melt shops >China does this already, funds 70% of their reactors at 1.4% rates >low-margin heavy industry only works if capital is basically free >US/EU could expand DOE loans or make a "Nuclear Forge Fund" 2. Straight-up grants & equity injections>just hand billions to build new facilities, treat it like national infrastructure >tie it to ASME NQA-1 compliance and priority orders for domestic reactors >Inflation Reduction Act but for steel instead of solar panels 3. Fat tax credits + PPPs >40% investment tax credit on capex for mega-forges >public-private partnerships where gov co-owns the press but gives guaranteed contracts >basically Japan post-WWII steel revival but for nuclear 4. Regulatory cope removal>fast-track permits, NEPA exemptions for strategic forging sites >stop letting NIMBYs block the one thing blocking unlimited energy 5. R&D money for escape hatches>pour cash into SMRs that need smaller/no giant forgings >or advanced manufacturing (powder HIP + e-beam welding) to make big parts without 600t ingots >also fund workforce training so we aren't begging retired boomers to un-retire If we actually did even half this shit we could have domestic capacity online by early 2030s >instead we'll probably just keep buying from China while crying about energy independence >mfw the real red pill is that unlimited power was always possible >but we let the forges rust because "muh free market" >fix it or forever cope frens
>>524325417How many heavy industrial facilities have been built in America since Trump first got elected in 2016 promising to make America great again?Seems the only thing being built is AI data centers that exist only to pump up the market value of tech companies and make billionaires richer. The entire US economy is a scam.
>>524358291superpower by 2020.....shits in the street.
>>524358291Trump was too busy not getting assassinated, not getting imprisoned after frivolous lawsuits, not getting banned from social media and not getting lied about around the world. US politics is too toxic because they can mint USD and the rest of the world cannot mint USD. So all economic acitivity in USA has de-evolved into high gross margin things like politics, NGOs, finance, law, SaaS and biotech.
>>524344158Yes, but also have a company like Tesla show up makes all the Chinese manufacturers go into overdrive to perfect the product. They absolutely will go missing if they make shit.
>>524337498Pajeets can't do shit. Their nuclear industry and weapons are the result of dumbasses leaf silent gen and boomers giving them the CIRUS reactor and then copying the CANDU design
>>524358192>4. Regulatory cope removal>>fast-track permits, NEPA exemptions for strategic forging sites >>stop letting NIMBYs block the one thing blocking unlimited energyWhat if we had like anti-NIMBYs? NIMBYs protest, anti-NIMBYs counter-protest?
>>524352771
>>524358192We always had the ability to fix the issue, but 90% of the time we're trying to shoe in Aristocrats into companies who have no innovation, with policies that are intentionally designed to gate off competition inside the country on all levels of government.We'd unironically be better at fighting the Chinese in WW3 if our entire government collapsed. We have all the solutions, but it's more important about making a few rich men even richer than keeping those same rich people alive.The ultimate end is that when society finally does collapse, it's going to fall on a few individuals to piece the country together again for decades. But I can't see it happening because religious factions are going to fight for power in the bulkanization.
>>524358192We have AI now. We're on the verge of global communism. The days of nation-states and East-West are soon behind.
>>524326377Blumbarks milarney!
>>524358867AI is basically creating another China but worse.You feed all your expertise into machine and then completely abolish the need for developed countries population whatsoever. The only thing that is needed after AI is cheap energy, mineral resources and industry. You can copy AI in a few seconds, you can't transfer the industry and resources.
>>524333569I would have been content with just one moonbase bros
>>524359072China is unironically going to be the only country using AI because they have the power to do it. We simply are runninh dry because of the lack of infrastructure in the US and this has even been noted by most CEOs of AI companies.
>>524359153Because if AGI is reached it will move to China on its own, since it's simply more effective for a tool to operate there. AI race is self-erasure of western societies, you basically distill your every achievement into the code so it can be transferred into other places without the need to pay western people such high salaries. You are destroying yourselves.
>>524325417America's nuclear reactor housings aren't made of steel, it irradiates too easily. This is like a Bhrrapti bugman seeing intergalactic alien dome cities and saying "hurr hurr they don't even wattle and daub cow shit, they don't even know how to walls"
>>524344158>kikes are stupid White hubris. If they were so dumb they wouldn't control you and if they appear weak now it's because they want to and have far worser things up their sleeves. Only browns like jews and indians are ultra smart.
>>524325417Stop talking this shit here. What is wrong with you?
>>524344158>>524344158Also>let them do business>copy their model>kick them out and sell cheaper >China pulled an "amazon" on Americans Hearty bezos laugh.
>>524325417Politics, not metallurgy you retard.
>>524358424>Trump was too busy not getting assassinated, not getting imprisoned after frivolous lawsuits, not getting banned from social media and not getting lied about around the world.Yet somehow got a couple thousand rounds of golf in.Imagine that.
>>524339654>bro YES, huge implications if you're actually grinding skills The real bottleneck isn't just the mega-forges: it's the skilled trades drought. US is about to dump billions into new reactors, SMRs, refurbishments, data center power, etc. >need thousands of machinists yesterday >current ratio is like 2-4 open jobs per decent CNC guy >nuclear sector alone gonna suck up hundreds of thousands of skilled hands by 2030s Lehigh Heavy Forge (last real US player for nuclear forgings) is begging for machinists to run giant lathes, vertical boring mills, CNC on house-sized parts. Pay fat, overtime guaranteed, benefits based. Same for any shop doing reactor components, steam generators, pressure vessel finishing. Once governments start subsidizing new forges (0% loans, grants, tax credits like we greentexted), the rough forgings will flood in -> someone gotta precision machine them to nuclear tolerances (ASME NQA-1, insane QA). That's YOU. Even without full fix: SMRs, defense, aerospace, energy, all overlapping heavy machining demand exploding. Pro tips while you're learning: >get good at large-part CNC (big swings, rigid setups, thermal compensation) >learn G-code cold, Mastercam or Siemens NX >blueprint reading for stupid tight tolerances >bonus points for NDT basics or nuclear quality awareness You're timing this perfectly. Keep grinding and in 5 years you'll be turning reactor shells while wages moon and everyone else copes with "muh college debt." Machinist chads eating good in the nuclear renaissance >don't sleep on it anon (pics related: what your future shop floor looks like - giant nuclear forgings getting final machined)
>>524325887>dope >tramp>slagmetallurgy incel terminology lmao
>>524359819>bro YES, huge implications if you're actually grinding skillswhat kind of grinding skills? We grind our own turning bits,but that's about it so far; granted, I just finished my first semester.
>>524326326>>524326483>sometimes americans genuinely believe nothing is made in europe its actually pretty fascinating what techtards have doneTo be fait most of europe lag behind france
>"We need major improvements to electrical capacity and infrastructure to power electric cars, trucks, trains and even aircraft!"Just not feasible>"We need major improvements to electrical capacity and infrastructure to make lifelike cartoons of cats serving McDonalds and CGI porn generation!"Will a hundred reactors be sufficient? We can always triple that!
>>524359819It doesn't really matter what manufacturers want, if there's no pipeline for producing people with those skills.If you want to 'keep grinding', then you're going to be making less than a fast food worker for much, much harder work.The better advice is to accept that the US is going to have NO industry to speak of in our lifetimes, and to skill up for remote working with Chinese and Russian firms.
>>524359819I work at a college with a cnc machinist program. Those kids are graduating at ~20 making $35 an hour starting, it's amazing. Lots of old guys in the program too actually. Companies are so desperate for new people they're paying for literally everything for these students
>>524359955>the US is going to have NO industry to speak of"America" hasn't had industry in a long while, it's owned by multinational conglomerates with no loyalty to America, incorporated in some tax shelter island nation.
>>524360023This. If you don't get hired with these skills in USA, just learn some Asian languages and come to Asia. We loved skilled white people.
>>524329405uhm runescape did it first chud
>>524332542it's still a low skill low iq job for blue collar wagies
>>524325417Does this mean the Gov't can't fulfill it's plan of having dispersed mini-reactors for it's military dictatorship it's building to press-gang Americans into ZOG wars?
>>524325417Bump for a based thread. Deinfustrialization is killing the west
>>524329529That happened because USD is the most competitive export of USA. Other nations cannot mint USD. Only USA can mint USD. So the incentive inside USA is to just mint USD send it to Japan/Korea, and get ships, RPVs etc.The incentive inside USA is to stand close to the money printer, and do high gross margin activities, like politics, NGOs, law, finance, SaaS and biotech.This is why USA turned into a spreadsheet-manufacturing nation.
>>524359955>If you want to 'keep grinding', then you're going to be making less than a fast food worker for much, much harder work.Never compare yourself to others anon :). Stop being negative. Just pull yourself up by the bootstraps, greet your boss with a firm handshake and work 13 hours a day.Others might make much more working less than you but that only means they can never be "proud" of their hard work like you can be.
>>524325417Honestly we need to move past nuclear to something that doesn’t irradiate a continent for 1000 years if you blow it up with a big enough bomb. You all larp, but nuclear proliferation, multipolar power centers…something is going to pop eventually and one of those might get hit fucking a huge area. I’m genuinely amazed Ukraine went from drunk Russians fire rpgs at the zap reactor building to now without an incident in Ukraine.
>>524325417Blah blah blah, and if they want me to work on any component of this the most they'll pay is $14 an hour. Meanwhile 50 C suite executives make $200,000+ salaries to drink coffee remotely. I don't believe scarcity exists as long as jobs don't pay well and/or have shitty working environments.
>>524339176You seem to understand my sentiment. America has three (two) choices:Get cancer and die at 70.No job (regulations=no industry) and starve to death at 5.Die as a nation.I hate people who make regulations.
>>524361158Govt regulations protect corporations from being forced to sell near cost.
>>524360793Nuclear power isn't bad because we already built disposal sites for it in Yuba Arizona.
>>524359819In Turkey, maybe, but I can't even get an entry level job as a welder with CAD experience and a degree in the field with 4 years of relevant experience from the military. My ex girlfriend got a job in phone sells and already made manager of a shop and would make 15 bucks more an hour than me with no college education. Sales trumps production, always.
>>524335850Gravity is roughly 10^36 times weaker than electromagnetism at atomic scales. The gravitational binding energy of molecules is so negligible it’s essentially unmeasurable, nigger.
>>524362745Pro-tip: Think like globalist to destroy globalism. Go work for your enemy nation if it pays you more. That is what these globohomo corporations do anyways. Be the brain drain. Be the skill drain. Go where you are appreciated. You only have one life to live, but corporations are immortal, so you owe nothing to the corporate person
>>524362835Except, they're all owned by the same jews in financial firms like Blackrock, so it doesn't matter. You'd just be destroying your own nation while the corporations will get rich regardless.
>>524363023AI god will eat them Blackrock owners alive, when AI god is born among us
>>524359859when your children all get gene edits to be white as they work in a 1g space slag processing station you will shit yourself so much you will swallow it
>>524325887what the fuck can we not fill the website with computer poopies
>>524325417>>Europe? lol nohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5xfgjJrYLY"The very heavy forging capacity in operation today is in Japan (Japan Steel Works), China (China First Heavy Industries, China Erzhong, SEC), France (Le Creusot), and Russia (OMZ Izhora).New capacity is being built by JSW and JCFC in Japan, Shanghai Electric Group (SEC) and subsidiaries in China, and in South Korea (Doosan), Czech Rep (Pilsen) and Russia (OMZ Izhora and ZiO-Podolsk).New capacity is planned in UK (Sheffield Forgemasters) and India (Larsen & Toubro, Bharat Heavy Electricals, Bharat Forge Ltd). In China the Harbin Boiler Co. and SEC subsidiary SENPE are increasing capacity.Nothing in North America currently approaches these enterprises.* The changed position of the USA is remarkable. In the 1940s it manufactured over 2700 Liberty ships, each 10,800 tonne DWT – possibly pioneering modular construction at that scale (average construction time was 42 days in the shipyard). In the 1970s it had a substantial heavy infrastructure, but today China, Japan, South Korea, India, Europe and Russia are all well ahead of it. Steelmaker ArcelorMittal, based in Luxembourg, now owns the US company which built most US reactor pressure vessels in the 1970s-1980s."https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-power-reactors/other/heavy-manufacturing-of-power-plantsFrance (Le Creusot)Czech Rep (Pilsen)UK (Sheffield Forgemasters)>>524325417>>Europe? lol noYou're just a worthless heathen to me
>>524362835>Think like globalist to destroy globalismkremlin buzzword nonsense faggotry and non Europeans go hand and hand these days
>>524325417>>Europe? lol noEurope yesSingapore? lol no
>>524363865>>524363933>>524364005Listen to this guy. I was wrong about everything before he posted this. He is right. Nobody else pointed out this. What an insight.
>>524325417That looks like a fucking cool place to work at.
>>524325417>>Europe? lol noYou are an idiot"Reactor vendors prefer large forgings to be integral, as single products, but it is possible to use split forgings which are welded together. These welds then need checking through the life of the plant. Also, whereas Generation II reactors might require some 2000 tonnes of forgings, EPR and AP1000 units require about twice the amount.Westinghouse says that the minimum requirement for making the largest AP1000 components is a 15,000 tonne press taking 350 tonne ingots.The very heavy forging capacity in operation today is in Japan (Japan Steel Works), China (China First Heavy Industries, China Erzhong, SEC), France (Le Creusot), and Russia (OMZ Izhora)."https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-power-reactors/other/heavy-manufacturing-of-power-plantshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0xiv-T_GY
>>524364102Apology accepted. Peace be with you.Invasion canceled.
>>524364102BTW The Czech plant will probably the world leader but the existing French capacity is top class. Go look at the ITER project. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAw-rdl9YZg
>>524364104https://youtu.be/v0afQ6w3Bjw
>>524341211>Helion Energy is not a publicly traded company. It's a private company owned by Altman
>>524334940>automoblowJej
>>524325897competence crisishttps://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/who benefits?the joooos.
>>524327352animal feed factory stink will blow your mind...
>>524364418There are very few Jews in Europe. I'll let you figure out why. Religious and ethnic diversity often results in scapegoating geocide of the minority party. This shouuld be of particular concern to (you) if you had the IQ to consider it.
