there are cool games still, but the hobby was all but destroyed by trannys in my opinion. animeshit everywhere, shitty jrpg after jrpg, most of nintendo's output after n64
t. crashing out unc

its probably less bad for youe brains than posting on 4chan

yes

>>524341843
Just outsmart the trans cat girl's Kovaaks calibrated aimbot with strategic positioning and game sense. Stop whining about them in your games.

You need to just get better, a gamer isn't made by his hardware.

>>524341843
Trannies are the worst thing to happen to gaming, just after upper middle class white women

>>524341701
If you’re doing something with your life - it’s ok. Any stuff can be harmful if beyond moderate: too much games = loser-uncle, too much sport - heart attack, too much alcohol - liver failure, too much 4chin - full scale autism. Be moderate, anon, and you will be just fine.

>>524342479
Loser-incel*

>>524342133
i didn't mean it like that, just that its almost like trannys and gaming are the same thing. i don't give a fuck about competing

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>>524341701
pathetic attempt at propaganda

>>524341701
just a compensation for sitting inside a cave looking at fire

modern day cavemen cope

>>524341701
I meet my wife on WoW 10 years ago
We have 3 kids 2 boys one girl
So yes it is worth it

>>524341701
Of course it is, mf. It isn't the worst thing, tho

white millennials STILL aren't prepared to have this conversation

>>524341701
The quality of Eglin Air Force Base propaganda has really taken a nose dive.

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>>524341701
gaming is literally the last bastion of meritocracy in clown world. it filters out degenerates.

Go to /v/ and take some notes, it's mostly subhuman retards.
Then go hang out at a GameStop, it's mostly subhuman retards.
These are totally different types of gamers yet they still both subhuman retards, curious.

>>524341701
confused what your obsession is especially related to gaymes. I don't play any gaymes but I also am mostly non participatory in "society" because much of it is literally just gay with extra steps. anyway again, i have no idea what is up with you obsession to be so spam but it's also not like i care either

i am trying to figure out the most feasible way to get energy out of waves but the one thing is people usually think of the ones crashing on a beach or close to shore and i'm thinking the better target its open ocean and you need like a mechanical oil rig sized thing
go big or dont bother

the thing is even if i propose something feasible and reasonable i got a b in multivariable calculus so id still not really contribute too much to the actual progression of something as equal complexity as drilling oil

does anyone have 5 minutes to discuss out lort and savior je...

anyway i aint getting no patent for adding together 3 shits that already exist but it might make sosmeone smart invent something

>>524344041
>>524343865
>>524343680
shut up

>>524344089
go eat your own penis

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hm

would you consider a tiny home?

if it comes with like ample outdoor space and maybe a gym auditorium like schools have?

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world solved u welcoom

This is much like music or film. If you just mindlessly consume games to dull your senses, it is obviously degenerate, you are gaining nothing, you are just wasting your time. But if you properly and consciously enjoy them like the powerul all-encompassing artform that they are, then only a retarded luddite would consider that degenerate. It is an amazing medium, you are creating entirely new worlds. To make a (good fucking) game, you need to have skills in music, the visual arts, literature but also math, physics, perhaps other sciences depending on what you're making. I'm sure that in the future, the passion project games made by today's autists will be studied and admired much like Mozart's operas today.
>But anon, most games today are shitty slop
Most of Mozart's (forgotten) contemporaries made slop as well. Appreciate the medium and its still mostly untapped potential.

>>524341701
Worrying about what other men do with their free time is the most degenerate thing one can do. Mind your fucking business. That's how Euroniggers get killed.

i would say im communist because there just isnt enough stuff to make everyone have the nuclear senpai setup and modern amrriages are usually toxic outside of religion which is rare now and what people dont get about religion is that it is about mena d nwomen being subject to rules about deities and therefore compared to modern corporate chauvinism is more egalitarian in the sense that what this liberal women is saying is somewhat achieved within religion

>>524341701
Id say unhealthy.
It trains people to accept long periods of isolation and being motionless as normal.
The visual spectacles make real life mundane.
And not to mention 90+% of the games flagrantly promote violence.
Maybe a case could be made for educational sim games being ok but its mostly just mindless and repetitious violence

>>524344874
>How does the people in the society you live in effect you in any way at all? Jus mind ur business

Potential Housing Capacity With Ideal Conditions
If all constraints were removed — full funding, streamlined regulations, rapid manufacturing, and global cooperation — how many could be housed?

Assume modular factory production could scale to 10 million units per year globally (a massive leap from current levels).
Over 25 years (2025–2050), that’s 250 million tiny homes.
At 2–3 people per unit, this could house 500 million to 750 million people.
Even under ideal conditions, this falls far short of the 1.8 billion additional people expected by 2050 — let alone retrofitting existing inadequate housing for 1.6 billion currently living in substandard conditions (UN-Habitat estimate).

However, tiny homes could play a critical role in affordable, sustainable, and emergency housing — especially in urban infill, backyard dwellings, and transitional shelters.

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>>524341701
When you are playing videogames, you are:
>Not fighting for ZOG
>Not working to pay taxes to ZOG
>Not paying for cunts' drinks at a bar
>Not contributing to this shitty jewish system in any way
So basically "you won't do shit" is exactly what will defeat the jews, niggers, and pajeets at this point in time (until the purges start).

A 400 sq ft tiny home in the United States typically costs between $80,000 and $150,000 to custom-build, with an average total cost of $116,000 in 2025.

Prefab kits: $45,000 – $100,000
Custom builds: $80,000 – $150,000+
Cost per square foot: $150 – $450, depending on materials, location, and amenities
Higher costs in states like Hawaii ($149,100 average) and California ($75,600) reflect regional labor, materials, and land prices.

then double the cost for loans utilities and shared amenities and add another 10 to 100% on top of that for location

>>524341867
Oh I couldn't agree more, I'm pretty sure that binging on a shitty gatcha like nikke for 10h would be better for your brain than browsing this shithole.

but what is also you have public showers like in japan and maybe even a dishwashing service that is like a local laundromat and a local laundromat

and you ride a community shuttle to the top 5 employers within 20 miles of your physical location

and you have an escooter for the last up to 3 miles of the trek for specificity or you ride an ebike the whole way

and because you have these modular camp systems we reverse urbanization because shitties are a giant poo sty that do nothing productive that an ai couldn't do better vanyway

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>>524341701
I only play Old School RuneScape.

For a 10-acre high-density rural park with 400 tiny homes and 1,000 residents, featuring shared services like on-site dishwashing, laundry, daycare/school, restaurants, shuttle buses, e-scooters, bicycles, gym, hiking trails, and parks, the estimated total development cost would range between $8 million and $15 million, or $8,000 to $15,000 per resident.

Cost Breakdown:
Land (10 acres): $200,000 – $500,000 (rural U.S., varies by region)
400 tiny homes (avg. $116,000 each): ~$46.4 million — but shared ownership or rental models could reduce upfront burden
Shared infrastructure & amenities: $3M – $7M
Community buildings (kitchen, daycare, school, gym): $2M – $4M
Utility hookups (water, sewer, solar microgrid): $1M – $2M
Pathways, trails, landscaping: $500K – $1M
Shuttle fleet, e-scooters, bike shares: $200K – $500K
Village setup & site planning: $700,000 – $800,000 (based on 30–40 home villages scaled up)
Note: The $46.4M for homes assumes full individual ownership. In a co-housing or rental model, only a portion may be built initially, lowering initial costs to $10M–$15M for phased development.

Monthly Resident Cost Estimate:
With shared services and economies of scale, monthly living costs could be $800–$1,500 per person, covering:

Housing (shared or micro-unit)
Utilities
Meals (communal dining)
Childcare/education
Transport (shuttles, e-scooters)
Maintenance and community fees
This model aligns with eco-villages like Earthaven and tiny home communities in Oregon and North Carolina, where shared resources reduce per-capita expenses and environmental impact

I knew that it will be shit but i just had to experience it myself so I downloaded skate since it is free anyways. The standard socks you start with are literally in trannie colors. The next socks i got were rainbow socks. The game is plastered with the trannie color scheme. From clothes to the environment.

The U.S. states bordering encroaching deserts — primarily Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas, and parts of California and Nevada — have arid or semi-arid climates, with significant portions already affected by desertification.

If 25% of the total land area in these regions were allocated for high-density residential use, tens of millions could potentially live there, but realistic carrying capacity depends on water, infrastructure, and sustainable design.

Estimated Population Capacity:
Total land area of desert-bordering states (AZ, NM, TX desert regions, CA & NV arid zones): ~500,000 sq mi
25% of this = ~125,000 sq mi
At moderate urban density (3,000 people/sq mi): 375 million people
At high rural village density (500 people/sq mi): 62.5 million people
However, due to water scarcity, actual sustainable capacity is far lower. Current population in these regions is about 25–30 million, and expansion would require massive investment in water recycling, solar desalination, and conservation.

Primary Economic Activities:
Residents in these areas mostly work in:

Agriculture (irrigated crops like pecans, cotton, citrus)
Mining (copper in Arizona, lithium in Nevada)
Renewable energy (solar farms in New Mexico, wind in West Texas)
Tourism (national parks, desert recreation)
Military and research (bases in NM, aerospace in AZ)
Remote work and tech (growing in cities like Tucson, Albuquerque, El Paso)
With sustainable planning, these regions could support 50–100 million people long-term, but only with decentralized water, energy, and circular economies.

The 100th Meridian historically marks the arid boundary in the U.S., separating humid eastern agriculture from arid western grazing. This line runs from North Dakota down through Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas, aligning closely with rainfall patterns—<50 cm/year west of the line limits non-irrigated farming.

With high rural village density (~500 people/sq mi) and 25% land use for residences, this region could support 30–50 million people sustainably, assuming water-efficient design and shared infrastructure.

Primary Work Activities:
Dryland farming (wheat, sorghum, drought-resistant crops)
Cattle and sheep ranching (dominant west of the line)
Renewable energy (wind in Texas/Oklahoma, solar in New Mexico/Texas)
Precision agriculture using drip irrigation and soil moisture tech
Ecotourism and outdoor recreation (national grasslands, trails)
Remote work hubs leveraging high-speed rural broadband
Climate change is shifting this arid boundary eastward, increasing evaporation and reducing soil moisture, which may reduce viable farmland and intensify water competition.

we can do more efficient stuff but you actually need people to be on site for that kind of stuff is the point and this makes up the opportunity gap for all anticipated inward migration and it takes up no otherwise available jobs which americans are not investing in the facilities for because thye dont want to live in a cuckshack tm

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>>524345154
>>How does the people in the society you live in effect you in any way at all? Jus mind ur business
That's right nigger, leave whites alone.
>Picrel you

Diverting the entire average discharge of the Great Lakes (~6,300 m3/s or 1.8 trillion gallons/year) to the arid U.S. regions west of the 100th meridian and encroaching deserts is not legally or ecologically feasible due to the Great Lakes Compact of 2008, which bans large-scale diversions outside the basin.

Even for agriculture, such a project would:

Violate international law (U.S. and Canada),
Risk ecological collapse (wetlands, fisheries, lake levels),
Require unprecedented infrastructure (thousands of miles of canals/pipes),
Cost hundreds of billions to build and maintain.
Historically, proposals like diverting water to recharge the Ogallala Aquifer or supply the American West have been rejected (e.g., 1982 Army Corps study denial).

While the water volume could theoretically support vast agriculture, the legal, environmental, and political barriers make it effectively impossible.

A linear calculation based on percentage of Great Lakes discharge diverted could theoretically support agriculture and residents in arid U.S. regions, but legal and ecological constraints prevent large diversions.

Linear Calculation Example:
Great Lakes outflow: ~1.8 trillion gallons/year (6,300 m3/s)
1% diversion = 18 billion gallons/year could irrigate ~30,000 acres or supply water for ~250,000 people
5% diversion = 90 billion gallons/year ~1.5 million acres irrigated or ~1.25 million people
However, the Great Lakes Compact prohibits out-of-basin diversions, with only limited exceptions (e.g., Chicago diversion of ~2 billion gallons/day under grandfathered rights).

Mitigation Costs (Hypothetical):

Paying for ecological ameliorations — such as wetland restoration, fish passage, lake level stabilization, and water treatment — could cost tens of billions. For example:

Restoring Great Lakes ecosystems: $1+ billion (EPA Great Lakes Restoration Initiative)
Replacing lost hydroelectric output or navigation revenue: $5–10 billion+
Legal and diplomatic incalculable

250k x 30k = 7.5b
so go fifty fifty = 375b in gdp low balled

this why i shower once every 5 days

so that's also 12.5 million people

but also it is food meaning you can feed like way more many people in the shitties too

>>524346545
If we gave people more water they would just use it to fuck and create even more people.

>>524344566
No niggers.

On average, one U.S. farm feeds 169 people annually, both domestically and abroad, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation. This includes the economic activity enabled by agricultural workers through food production that supports downstream industries like processing, retail, and food service.

While farmers receive only 15 cents of every retail food dollar, their output underpins a much larger economic chain — contributing to $2.1 trillion in annual economic output and supporting 22.8 million jobs in food and agriculture-related sectors.

Thus, each agricultural worker enables far more economic value than their direct income suggests, sustaining food security and broad economic activity across the nation.

interpreting this
we spend 12 trillion on food
we can have roughly like 6 million or so more ag workers to reduce food waste and costs and make that more like 2.7T and 30M

so gdp could go up like 50million people worth or so total all said

times 50k each like 2.5T

>>524341701
It's escapism for the most part. Some of the games are degenerate, but that doesn't mean gaming as a whole is bad.

>>524341701
Post the pic before all the kike defacement edits.

>>524346877
>>524347022
checked
also define that more carefully than whatever anyone didn't think you meanted and possibly make it universal not racial

like is this a personality? a chemical imbalance? your wet dream?

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>>524347216
cute

The 100th Meridian runs approximately 2,000 miles from the Canadian border to the Gulf of Mexico. No direct passenger train currently operates along this line.

If a train averaged 50 mph, the trip would take about 40 hours nonstop. However, real-world factors like stops, track sharing with freight, and speed limits would likely extend travel time to 50–60 hours.

Existing Amtrak routes (e.g., Southwest Chief, Texas Eagle) cover parts of this corridor but require multiple transfers and take 2–3 days end-to-end.

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>>524347158
Niggers are black niggers and breed more niggers on an exponential scale while providing no benefits to their community or local ecology. They destroy their environment and simply move on to the next one until all possible resources are plundered and all natural biomes are wrecked.

Theres no benefit to providing anything to the population at large. Do not feed the fornicators.

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>>524347320

>>524347435
there is a definitive point to be made about the congo that you are taking a dump on the discussion of

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>>524347584
The 100th meridian isnt the Congo but you seem to think it should be.

so we established that water is the limiting factor of developing the midwest as a healthy food powerhouse idk what to call it

and that the people who would live there would probably be socially normative and economically center left but also have a roi worth appreciating

where do the 50 people i need to sign this do that?
think starts with a g

>>524347673
look an actual what you said would just freeze or starve out there

>>524347768
>look an actual what you said would just freeze or starve out there
Good, keep it that way.

>>524343157
That’s the compassion of the left right there!
>No we don’t you
>We hate men especially white men
>No you aren’t allowed to fuck off you need to pay me and my nigger boyfriends bills
Cringe. You probably have zero friends

>>524347833
it's up to the locals but trust me the people you're thinking of whom i call disabled would really prefer their current environs and no one is gonna kick them out to these areas at least

>>524347993
You don't understand stupid niggers. There are Somalians in Minnesota do you think they'll stay out of wherever you plan on building your communist nigger utopia?

okay so to get the bang for the buck on the tiny homes basically if you want a bath you go to the bath house(s) and if you want a shower you have a low flow rate pipe that handles sewage and sinks too but you don't have a kitchen you have like a hotel kitchenette that's like a pantry, you have external storage and a storage facility that doubles as the only car garages and no one has to commute off the 10 acre compund for school except for to do stufflike sports or clubs

>>524348196
they would work in this model of community
part of americas problem is just defining the midwit as a nig

many of these people would thrive in like a west asian society and that is essentially what the proposal is

but other somalians who do not get allowed here would not thrive

they have a filter for the people it makes zero sense even when you meet them halfway and im not mean about it but i am straight enough to state the facts

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>>524348300
Sounds like the perfect place for a niggers to fuck up.
They tried these living arrangements on the west coast and it just ends up a drug den for fentanyl users to rape and murder people.

to the point they can require you work like 6 months or 1k hours a year or else you get kicked out but that would apply to all adults except seniors

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>>524348390
You're a delusional brainwashed idiot.

>>524348474
yeah because it isn't rural or super fucking cold and dry

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>>524348519
What are you twelve? Do you have zero real world experience?

>>524348530
if it doesn't work in one commnity you make the rule to fix it for the rest and the state that doesnt is the state that fails

im not delusional because i know you make a completely valid point but the midwest is not goddamn commiefornia

you vwill work bo iiy

>>524348628
ive been on all of those and succumbed to none a dose

they'll proabably not eve nafford internets

>>524341701
People taking the time out of their day to bash gamers on /pol/ are the degenerates.

Games are literally one of the best things about this simulation were in, especially in this timeline.

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>>524348642
>the midwest is not goddamn commiefornia
It will be if what you propose comes into effect.

Your answer to the problem of human nature is that somebody else will fix it, but not you. The answer is to not try. You're fucking retarded. The environment isnt the problem. People are the problem. You're trying to find a way to industrialize an environment with people when tye problem IS industrialization and people.

>>524348921
stfu nonsequitor pseud

>>524341701
>Is Gaming For Degenerates /pol/?
Yes, but personally gaming is the only interesting thing I have in my life.
I decided that I will do all of the boring stuff like work in real life and all of the interesting stuff like sex and driving cars in video games and I'm pretty happy with it.
DESU I now don't even see a difference and I feel like I'm really doing all of theese things, I'm also respected and known in some games and servers so it's cool.
I am 28 years old btw.
No neetbux
small apartament
basic job

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>>524349015
The world doesn't benefit anybody by making it easier for niggers to live in.

If we solve you're problems all the world will get is more niggers to cause everybody else more problems.

>>524341701
You're meme sux Jew just like your mother sucking dog dicks

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>>524349217

>>524341701
Not sure, but computing certainly is.

>>524341701
Gaming actually brings me happiness, its nice enjoying stories and are akin to reading or watching movies but more interact able.
You shouldnt put down others for their hobbies and interests.

how many workers per acre of any given farming operation are needed compared to the economic value per acre of such specified operations?
Finished
Labor needs and economic value per acre vary widely by crop:

Strawberries: ~200 labor hours/acre, $788M total value ($23,878/acre)
Cultivated blueberries: ~530 labor hours/acre, $76.2M total value ($3,342/acre)
Lettuce: ~270 labor hours/acre, $342,965 acres, high value but lower per-acre labor efficiency
Corn: ~$690/acre cost, highly mechanized, <10 labor hours/acre, high yield
Basedbeans/Wheat: $500–$323/acre costs, minimal labor, large-scale mechanized operations
High-value fruits require the most labor, while grains generate high economic output with minimal workers due to automation.

>>524341701
Who are you seething at here exactly?
All I can see is that someone with an nvidia card made you seethe a lot.

>>524345412
I dont even play videogames but I know for a fact, that playing some retarded ass game for 10 hours is better than being on this fucking retarded site for 20 minutes.

>>524349363
generally

>>524349431
Thats why I rarely come here at all. Its just trivial bullshit, retarded ethno-racism and fake threads about some sack of rice falling over in Timbuktu.

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>>524349337

oops

Here is a comparison of labor hours per acre and economic output per acre for key U.S. farming operations:

Crop/Operation Labor Hours per Acre Economic Output per Acre (Est.) Labor Efficiency
Corn ~2.1 hours $700–$1,000 Very high — highly mechanized
Basedbeans ~2.1 hours $600–$900 Very high — low labor, large scale
Wheat ~1.5–2.0 hours $400–$700 High — minimal labor input
Lettuce ~270 hours $15,000–$20,000 Low — labor-intensive but high value
Strawberries ~200–300 hours $20,000–$30,000 Low — high labor, highest value
Cultivated Blueberries ~530 hours $3,000–$5,000 Very low — extremely labor-heavy

>>524349510
Like I said in a thread a couple of weeks back and retarded morons accused me of being a "roach" aka a turkish poster, living in Germany.
They are so stupid, so retarded that they go out of their way to remove Turkey, an entire country, from a map to make a point about "muh european excellence!". Imagine being so fucking awkward and clownish, that you go out of your way to remove entire landmasses from the map because it doesnt fit their narrative. This site has gone down the drain and is, at this point, unsalvageable.

the target is more like making spices and lentils and the increasingly vegan or custom diets or it could be food plants that make these products before they're shipped places

not acutally berries but also then you could have some manufacturing too

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>>524349671

>>524341701
Are you the same faggot who should KYS posting the same thread again?
KYS regardless.

>>524341701
Gaming isn't degenerate in and of itself, but degenerates do play games.

basically lefties care about everyone but wht that looks like in practice is picking a mid value range labor and price crop to feed people and some kind of community with standards and gates and modest but fair pay and acceptably affordable environs if like ovbiously you don't get too pretentious

Lentils, beans, and spices vary in labor and value:

Lentils (organic, Montana): ~$22.50/hour labor, $322/acre gross return, low labor (mostly mechanized), net ~$122/acre.
Dry beans (e.g., pinto, navy): ~150–200 labor hours/acre, $1,000–$1,800/acre value, moderate labor for planting/harvest.
Spices (e.g., cilantro, cumin): Highly variable; cilantro ~300+ labor hours/acre, $5,000–$10,000/acre, very labor-intensive.
Overall, legumes like lentils and beans are moderately labor-efficient with stable returns, while spice crops are high-value but highly labor-dependent.

so this is just to prove there's jobs for the not very bright people but no excuse to keep around the dumb as bricks people

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>>524349943
>basically lefties care about everyone

>>524350174
people would die without trees or phosphorus or oil or silver and silicon

im going for a stroll
keep the thread up
havent set up my new phone yet
dont know where to go with this next
feel free to whatever

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>>524350283
Good.

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>>524350392
Cool
Have fun with your new phone.
Merry Christmas.

Gaming for modern men is like alcohol for indigenous americans. It’s like crack to them because they don’t have thousands of years of natural selection weeding out all the fucking losers who get addicted to that shit.

repeat after me
knee grr
knee grr

knee
knee grrrrrr

uh so the desert areas
if you want to just live there and not agriculture post what is one thing that would stop you from moving for a 50% hourly wage raise tomorrow?
it's probably transportation related

>>524349738
stfu roach and see you tomorrow

Building passenger rail in the arid Southwest generally costs $20–$50 million per mile, comparable to or slightly lower than in the East due to simpler terrain but offset by long distances and sparse population.

Southwest (e.g., Texas, Arizona): Lower land acquisition costs and flat terrain reduce expenses, but lack of existing infrastructure and water scarcity increase logistical costs.
Eastern U.S.: Higher land and labor costs, dense urban areas, and complex environmental regulations drive up prices — often $50–$200 million per mile in metro areas.
While construction in arid regions may be cheaper per mile, lower population density reduces cost-effectiveness, making ridership and revenue harder to achieve.

build it and they will come

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also we would extend it here and do selective thinning cutting to have these forests produce timber and grow and sequester more cc

so if you designed a virus or bacteria that reliably deletes a third and then a half of saplings in a monoculture or etc ofrest ... you catch me drifting?

or y oujust plant half natural and half gmo trees and the gmo ones naturally etc

so that's a concept
if a state or territory has say regions not completely sttate wide where you have to have a wrok quota based permit as in literally you cannot live in county x if you don't log eg 1k hours before date a

>>524344566
Its funny because there's a chick like this at my work. Leftard feminist but wants to just be a simple housewife. As a person she's cool. Still, had an argument with her and made her cry.

also we should totally include canada in the water and rail up into sas man a ndal but like what if you get to keep your flag but you have representataives in our house system literally for free? i mean literally we just give you states rights and ask nothing in specific yet

>>524351648
jut buy her a cupcake or something but dont say sorry
but a fairly decent one cupcake

mexico has to buy them
but not with money
i want you to work with our military
not wit hrights yet

i mean the soldiers have no rights but mexico gets the representatives

would there be a utility in having a rail line ride the ridge across the rockies all the way from southern canada to northern mexico for i suppose mostly mining or other competitive heavy industry?
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A rail line along the Rocky Mountain ridge from southern Canada to northern Mexico would primarily serve mining and heavy industry, as seen historically with lines like the Atlantic City Mine Railroad in Wyoming, which crossed the Continental Divide to transport iron ore.

Such a route would face high construction costs due to elevation and terrain but could be justified by access to metal ores (copper, molybdenum, gold), coal, and rare earth elements in the Rockies. Existing infrastructure is limited, so new rail would enable large-scale extraction and transport.

While passenger service would be impractical due to remoteness, dedicated freight rail could support competitive heavy industry by linking mines to processing plants and mainline rail hubs.

However, environmental regulations, water scarcity, and low population density make large-scale development economically marginal without significant government or private investment.

ideas?

what if the primary approach is just to have the lowest possible cost railsetup and start from that option as a base to then scale the network later if discoveries support it?
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A low-cost, minimum-viable rail setup along the Rocky Mountain ridge—using modular, phased construction—could start at $1–3 million per mile by:

Using existing rights-of-way or mining access roads
Deploying lightweight, prefabricated track on gravel beds
Starting with diesel or battery-hybrid locomotives (no overhead wires)
Building only essential spurs to active or prospective mines
This "seed rail" approach allows initial operation with minimal capital, then scaling track and electrification as mineral discoveries (e.g., lithium, copper, rare earths) justify investment.

Such a strategy mirrors modular mine rail systems used in Chile and Canada, where rail is expanded incrementally as production ramps up—cutting initial costs by 30–50% while retaining future capacity.

>>524341701
THANKS FOR THE GLAZING
WE KNOW WE RUINED YOU WITH GAMERGATE THAT LED TO TRUMP AND FUENTES, BUT THANKS FOR REMINDING US
KEEP EATING OUR SHIT, JEWBUG BOY

we want to attempt to be more competetive because the climate in the states is more temperate for living and working and eventually there is a desire to build out more passenger capacity even if it's highways or air instead. can the mineral discoveries of canadian and mexican lines and prospects generally speak to the spread of such inbetween too?
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Yes, mineral discoveries in Canada and Mexico strongly indicate that the Rocky Mountain corridor from southern Canada to northern Mexico is rich in valuable resources, supporting potential competitiveness.

The Rockies host extensive deposits of:

Copper, gold, silver, molybdenum, lithium, uranium, and rare earth elements
Industrial minerals like gypsum, potash, and trona
These resources are geologically continuous across the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, meaning productive zones in one region often extend south or north. For example:

British Columbia’s copper-gold belts
Colorado’s molybdenum and silver mines
New Mexico’s lithium prospects
Sonora (Mexico)’s copper and lithium
With temperate climates and existing rail/road corridors, developing a low-cost, phased rail network along this spine could unlock strategic mineral wealth, support domestic industrial growth, and reduce reliance on foreign supply chains—especially for clean energy and defense technologies.

honestly we talk us vs china alot but i see the future looking more like china over the belt and road area and the us over the southern areas just becaues that is what is stable and not as a like f u thing or im gonna fight over xyz but just manifest society

>>524352463
We already have everything covered and mining in those areas is a no go for ecological reasons. Trains are a horrible investment strategy. We don't care about increasing yield or industry. Ecological preservation especially in the Rockies is more industrious than mining. Basically areas of low negro are more valuable than gold and silver or food production. Precious metals and food are a commodity and once they are put onto the market they hold little value to community.

>>524352723
polluting the ag zones you mean is the reason that people don't mine them

well i know what a ditch is good for

>>524352590
The belt and road is outside of china not China itself. If things kick off in that regard anything is on the table for the future. The problem with the belt in road is just what I said, it's outside of china but china seems to believe that it's all created for them.

so the point no tinsignificantly is that all major us buildouts in the future done sustainably and ecconomically will be through rail and scaling rail means it gets cheap enough to scale the us

>>524352777
>polluting the ag zones you mean is the reason that people don't mine them
No polluting the recreational areas is why. Recreation is a more valuable industry than agriculture and and mining combined and it's an industry that can be held by the state and local governments and not corporations and shareholders. Ironically its the foremost communist industry.

>>524352818
the only reason the us sabre rattles at china is because we're shooting out own tied feet with this pansy environmentalism sry about your huwhites though that are dying of drugs and unemployment and being sisies

>>524352927
and also only exists on paper and is gay and fake. are you 5?

this is the flow btw
scale demand first by developing and tying with global south then make the mines after you reach a threshold of about idk double demand of the first decades projected output

so no existing op goes bust or something

>>524352933
>we're shooting out own tied feet with this pansy environmentalism sry about your huwhites though that are dying of drugs and unemployment and being sisies
Good

>>524352969
>gay and fake. are you 5?
No we had this argument in the Dakota recently where congress wanted to open up areas for mining and they had to be shutdown because the states business is recreational not corporate. They don't give a fuck what some other industry puts into other peoples pockets.

>>524353653
what about when those people end up zombie walking into your territory because they can't make life work without any energy in their area and then you try to kick them out but they stop being nice and that becomes impossible then you ruin the local area making energy anyway

lol

first they destroy the world by attacking a specific demographic

then they make fun of said demographic and try to bait them into fixing it

but do you even want it fixed though? the minute chud savior comes you will complain, if chud savior does nothing you still complain

>>524353921
i think of it as pressure and demand
there once was an oversupply of chuds and now there is an undersupply of pressure resistant chuds

>>524353653
so the idea is that by mining you can scale ecological energy industry which would ultimately prevent immigration. it also allows people to take advantage of local capacity for farming. the downside is ecological harm. the us is the most defensible location for any situation where things get globally tipsy so people are treating it like a golden eggshell. that's reasonable, but so is starting the mines that avoid these issues handily where they exist because you'd need them in these defense scenarios anyway
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Yes, mining in the Rocky Mountain corridor can support ecological energy industries and local agriculture, enhancing self-sufficiency and reducing immigration pressures by creating stable, high-value jobs. The region’s vast deposits of lithium, copper, rare earths, and uranium are critical for clean energy, defense, and advanced manufacturing.

While ecological harm is a concern, modern low-impact mining, reclamation practices, and renewable-powered operations can mitigate damage. Strategic development aligns with national security—ensuring supply chain resilience and energy independence.

The U.S. is uniquely defensible and resource-rich, making it a "golden eggshell" worth protecting. Starting mines now in key zones—especially where Canadian and Mexican mineral belts extend into U.S. territory—ensures readiness for global instability, while enabling long-term sustainability.

i don't reject the idea of saving though

>>524341701
way better than anime, faggot.

Low-impact and energy-efficient mining practices improve competitiveness by:

Reducing energy costs up to 50% through solar, wind, and battery storage, especially in remote areas
Lowering operating expenses by cutting fuel and ventilation needs via electric machinery
Enhancing cost positioning by an entire quartile, making mines more resilient to energy price swings
Meeting regulatory and ESG demands, improving access to capital and markets
Though upfront investment is high, long-term savings and sustainability boost profitability and operational longevity.

so we have to reduce initial is all

so reaching economy of scale in the practices of the medium of better mining would proabably be the marketable asset of the west to the world that also reduces the upfront cost of this use case?
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Yes, reaching economies of scale in sustainable mining practices—such as renewable energy integration, electrification, and closed-loop water systems—can significantly reduce upfront and operational costs, making them a marketable asset for the Western U.S.

Large-scale adoption lowers per-unit costs through:

Cheaper renewable energy (solar/wind microgrids with <2-year payback)
Reduced fuel and maintenance via electric fleets
Avoided fines and remediation through eco-compliant operations
Higher efficiency from automation and AI-driven resource recovery
As these practices scale, they transform sustainability from a cost into a profit driver, enhancing global competitiveness while supporting long-term ecological and economic resilience.

in the meantime do you predict that it would cause hotshot truckdriving to boom?
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Yes, a mining and infrastructure boom in the Western U.S. would likely cause hotshot trucking to surge, especially for transporting urgent parts, equipment, and supplies to remote sites.

Hotshot trucking is already critical in Texas oil fields, Arizona copper mines, and Wyoming energy projects, where downtime costs tens of thousands per day. With increased mineral exploration and sustainable mining expansion, demand for fast, flexible, point-to-point hauling of machinery, drill components, and construction gear will rise.

The low upfront cost, high mobility, and 24/7 readiness of hotshot rigs make them ideal for supporting dispersed, rugged operations—especially during early development phases before rail or permanent infrastructure is built.

It shouldn’t be allowed for kids

I only started playing games a couple of years ago, but the amount of time I’ve wasted.. if I was a child doing this my development would have been fucked. Just as bad as weed and drinking

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>>524341701
>Is Gaming For Degenerates /pol/?
Yes.
Gaming is purely a waste of time, a surrogate activity that exists because modern life no longer gives people real problems worth solving. Games keep morons busy doing nothing of any real importance.

would there not be a great utility to having a hybrid pick up truck for these operations?
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Yes, hybrid pickup trucks offer significant utility for mining and hotshot operations due to:

10–15% higher operating efficiency and reduced fuel consumption compared to diesel-only models
Lower operating costs and improved fleet fuel efficiency, critical for remote, high-mileage work
Reduced emissions while maintaining torque and hauling capacity
Ideal for stop-and-go terrain and urgent deliveries in rugged environments
Their lower upfront cost and maintenance needs make hybrids a cost-effective, scalable choice for sustainable resource development.

the main point is to prevent bottlenecks and downtime in development so practices need to involve reliable sustainable options to supplement systems largely for robustness also given the increased complexity of modern designs creating complexities in maintenance operations
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Yes, reliable and sustainable maintenance practices are essential to prevent bottlenecks and downtime in modern mining, where complex systems increase maintenance demands.

Key strategies include:

Predictive and condition-based maintenance using IoT sensors and AI to detect failures early
Hybrid maintenance models (RCM) tailored to asset criticality
Digital twins and AR-assisted repairs to reduce error and speed up service
Automated scheduling and real-time data integration for proactive responses
These approaches enhance system robustness, reduce unplanned downtime, and support the scalability of advanced mining operations.

>>524341843
>, but the hobby was all but destroyed by trannys in my opinion.
Destroyed by Jews. The trannies are just a symptom.

It's not just gaming. It's basically all hobbies that have a "significant" consumer and/or community factor.
Basically all forms of media as well as all creative activities and sports that require significant investment and or networking.

So basically unless your hobby boils down to watching birds or something like that, it's either ruined or getting ruined.

>>524341701
Compared to other hobbies, gaming can take too much money and time for relatively little return, so it requires more moderation but the actual activity on its own it's fine.
As long as you keep your priorities in check, any hobby is fine.

>>524341701

I played rust during covid lockdowns. It was fun. Inspired me to build a homestead, collect scrap, and build weapons IRL.

if the trucks could lane keep when cc is active and only when cc is active and at highway speeds that would be good with a sleepiness detection package
i would mandate it in my fleet and mandate an extra 20 percent off time and psychological evalutions every quarter

the hell the water regimen today is anxieTy r us
the hell are we preparing for?

>>524341701
Glow thread....
Same shit gets reposted constantly.

But yes. Video games, like porn, are a black hole for men.

>>524355441
>the hell are we preparing for?
More niggers.

>>524355701
admittedly, i havent beentaking that part seriously enough

what if operations first made reservoirs of grey materials to begin groundbreaking or connecting operations that will only later be allowed to operate once sustainable practices have become workable? this means things like catchments that will later be cleaned up.
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Yes, creating temporary grey infrastructure—like pre-excavated reservoirs or catchments—during early mining phases can accelerate development by enabling immediate water and material management. These structures can later be retrofitted or cleaned as sustainable systems (e.g., lined with impermeable barriers, integrated with filtration) come online.

This phased approach reduces startup delays, supports dewatering and dust control, and provides staging for equipment and haul roads. Once operations stabilize, the temporary systems can transition to closed-loop water recycling or ecological reclamation, aligning with long-term sustainability goals while maintaining robustness.

>>524341701
>The west would still fall all around me regardless if I play games or not.

>>524341701
This image was 100% made by someone too poor to afford parts.

>>524356159
that's ver ysad anon
anything i can do to help?

guys also if you consider transport as a job you should work it out with your normal job to ease into it and do the psych work

i recommend the water treatment plans fully but you need the tea time too for that route

so much anxiety it alsmost reminds me of what depression felt like
io miss how it made time feel so slow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIG-4qoO64U&list=RDsULy8rkMZJs&index=9
idk if this owrks
Thanatos Suite | Neon Genesis Evangelion (Original Soundtrack) by Shiro Sagisu
also if im wasting your time it's because you're not sending anythign back my way too

hte points of land schol
you know of any options for intentional wilds to intersperse in encroaching arid regions to help the water cycle and soil retention?
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Yes, intentional wilds using water-retention landscapes can significantly enhance the water cycle and soil stability in arid regions. Key options include:

Sunken beds and swales: Capture rainwater, reduce runoff, and increase infiltration.
Water spreading bunds (WSBs): Low-cost earthworks that boost vegetation cover and soil moisture.
Native, deep-rooted plants: Improve soil porosity, prevent erosion, and support evapotranspiration.
Biochar and hydrogels: Enhance soil water-holding capacity and reduce irrigation needs.
Atmospheric water-harvesting gels: Absorb moisture at night and release it to soil during the day, improving seed survival.
These nature-based solutions restore degraded land while building resilience into dryland ecosystems.

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I don't care about the opions of no fun allowed try hard faggots regardless of if they're obnoxious gamer sweats taking shit too seriously or the special sort of stick up their butt retard who've turned themselves into sad caricature of a human being building their whole personalities around imitating click bait farming e-celbs becuase they have shit role models since daddy didn't love them. It's Christmas. Lighten the fuck up.

>>524342883
Pillar of creation

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>>524357308
>NOOO!!!! YOU CAN'T BE HAPPY AND LOVE JESUS!!!

do mines really need rail or would roads suffice? do railjunctions tend to just be short spurts that connect a source to a processing facility and most actual miles are driven with a refined product?
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Mines often need rail for long-distance, high-volume transport, as it’s more cost-effective and energy-efficient than road. However, roads suffice for short hauls (under 80–100 km), especially to connect remote sites.

Rail junctions are typically short spurs linking mines to mainlines, with raw ore moved by rail to processing facilities. After processing, refined products often travel by truck for final delivery, combining rail efficiency with road flexibility.

so the ecological and infrastructure issue in the rockies is with the ability to process the materials in the rockies
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Yes, the primary ecological and infrastructure challenge in the Rockies is not just extraction, but processing. Many mineral deposits exist, but processing facilities are scarce due to:

High permitting costs and long timelines (7–10 years)
Water-intensive operations in arid, over-allocated watersheds
Lack of energy and transport infrastructure in remote areas
Environmental concerns around chemical use and waste
While rail spurs can move ore, on-site or regional processing is critical to reduce transport costs and increase value. Current efforts focus on streamlining permits and developing sustainable, modular processing units to enable domestic critical mineral production.

so if i instead built a rail that used the slope of the rockies t omove everything to a more ecological location with a better water source also would that enable a new regime given a significant volume to justify the rail?
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Yes, using the slope of the Rockies for gravity-assisted rail transport can enable a new operational regime. Trains carrying heavy ore downhill can use regenerative braking to generate and store energy, powering the return trip or nearby processing facilities.

This reduces fuel and grid dependence, lowers emissions, and cuts costs—especially when paired with modular, mobile processing units at lower elevations with better water access.

If volume justifies the rail investment (e.g., high-grade lithium, copper, or rare earths), this system enhances economic and ecological sustainability, turning terrain into an energy asset.

>>524351648
>Leftard feminist but wants to just be a simple housewife.
They are all like this. They want to destroy society but also not have to deal with the consequences.

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someone make the rockies but every like 25 by 25 miles is one tile would be a 2k/25 = 80 by 80 map

>>524341701
If /v/ is any indication, you all don't need to worry about this.
Gaming is dead as a hobby. It's strictly a consumer product made to extract profit now.
All anyone in gaming communities has do is bicker with each other, because there's nothing good to play, and everyone wishes the game they're stuck with was better, while the games they're stuck with get increasingly predatory.
It would be better for everyone to just quit, and let the hobby die for now.

For me it's Dwarf Fortress

>>524341701
Nocoiners are STILL seething over crypto? It's literally still not too late.

>>524341701
I mean, probably.
But who fucking cares?
Nothing ever happens and there is zero will to actually change shit.
But the fictional world hasn't disappointed me half as much as this gay one has.

I'll continue this someitme likely early tomorrow people

tired and think blocked for now but probably should change subject and then revisit

>>524341701
yes get out get pussy

>>524341701
ChurchofBedrock.aternos.me
Minecraft Server

>>524341701
hiding away behind ur ultrawide screen is the only feasible way to endure this clownworld

>>524365932
This. Being an incel today is a sign of a healthy mind in a sick society.

>>524341701
Yeah