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In America, having access to healthcare is considered slavery
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>>524346071
Americans are satanists who worship money and hate charity.
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>>524346071
What else would you call forcing someone to work for you for free?
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>>524346262
Who is being forced to work for free in Europe, which has free healthcare? The only ones are Americans who pay for Israel's free healthcare lmao.
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>>524346262
Yes it's very sad that in Europe teenagers are forced to go to medical school and become doctors to provide free healthcare for the rest of their lives :(
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>>524346368
So its not free then?
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>>524346467
I broke my hand, went to the ER, got treated and paid nothing. You tell me.
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>>524346497
Make it make sense. You dont pay so who is paying?
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>>524346262
You mean like working for free to pay taxes for roads in parts of the state or country that I don't drive on? What about slavery forcing me to pay any other manner of tax?

The "hidden hand" of the free market was simply the inability to compute fast enough within a snapshot of time. This is possible now. Private medical care simply adds middleman complexity to take a cut of money for just existing.
You're also still paying for it through externalities generated from the poor health of citizens. But if I had it my way, physical health would be militant with actual penalties for being out of shape.
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>>524346561
The state, Cletus.
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>>524346071
Slavery:
>you work
>in exchange you get housing, clothing and food
>your boss owns you and you are his responsibility
>replacing you is expensive

Capitalism:
>you work
>you get an allowance, that you can trade for housing, clothing and food
>your boss owns you, but has no responsibility towards you
>you are easily replaceable
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>>524346561
>Make it make sense. You dont pay so who is paying?
Everyone pays into a pool that then gets distributed to stuff like dentists, doctors, schools, the elderly, roads, libraries, public facilities, etc.

I know this sounds foreign to you, because in your country you just pay into a pool where all the jews and billionaires then steal it for themselves, and the general public don't get any benefits at all.
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He's right taxation is theft
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>>524346071
It is though. Profiting from the labor of another with no equalizing compensation to them is the very definition of slavery. I don't want half-assed healthcare, let me keep my money so I can afford actual healthcare. If there were an opt-out option from taxation, I would take no issue with this. I use roads so I have no issue paying for road maintenance but you should only have to pay it if you're a licensed driver too.
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>>524346071
Democrats have had power the majority of my life and haven’t implemented this at all. In fact, they made it so you have to have private insurance if you can afford it. You are fucking deluded. You cry to the sky: “save me, the party of Citizens United” (which made corporations people and allowed unlimited contributions to political campaigns).
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>>524346702
You get taxed for all kinds of stupid shit but healthcare is the issue?
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>>524346626
Shut up commie faggot
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>>524346702
No taxes just leads to the next highest organized state to take over. Libertarian dream would collapse a day later when China takes over.

>>524346756
You still depend on services and products that utilized those roads. If you opted out of road use tax or maintenance on these systems, they'd have to start slapping on the cost of the use of these systems to any good you purchase. And it would be slavery to do this for free, so you'd also be charged for the use of the compute to determine your externality use case cost.
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>>524346806
Our government is corrupt. Democrats just spent a trillion on infrastructure three years ago with no demonstrable result. None. Intel (the recipient of the chips act under Joe Biden) claims they never got the taxpayer money that Biden claimed he gave them
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>>524346811
You've attached too much emotion to that word. I'd say I am more pro a NS militant state.
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>>524346879
You can’t have natsoc in a multicultural multipolar economic zone - dipshit
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>>524346862
You spend a trillion dollars on the MIC every year without batting an eyelash. Healthcare is chump change compared to that.
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>>524346904
You also cant have any of the other priors I mentioned. We never established the starting point. Besides that, I can still take an impersonal opinion and tell that even for a multicultural multipolar economic zone, its more efficient to have a centralized health care system and cut out needless middlemen.
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>>524346368
I am being forced to pay for it even if I don't use it. Not free.
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>>524346963
A trillion wouldn’t cover anything. Just type US federal budget into any search engine. 70% of the budget already goes to welfare and social security with Medicare tax barely covering Medicare expenses. You are talking about a monumental tax increase on workers, and while you claim you’d only tax the rich, it never works out that way. Again; democrats have had power the majority of my life. I’ve seen this shit over and over
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If any politician isn't saying I'm putting forth a bill outlawing insurance lobbies and mandatory sentences for any public servants or anyone in their sphere receiving renumeration of any kind from any insurance entity or any subsidiaries thereof, and you yourself aren't requiring that of your reps, you and your pathetic schemes with insurance of any sort are just that, pathetic.
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>>524347026
In a perfect world I’m right there with you. But in practice in this country it will be used to flood the system with illegal immigrant healthcare which will demonstrably reduce the quality of care. Imagine we have another democrat President who refuses to enforce immigration controls and they let anyone cross the border for free medical care that they won’t pay tax for. Are you insane? I get compassion and empathy but this shit isn’t realistic under the current paradigm
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>>524346187
Bulgarians are all subhumans with Jeet IQs yet never shut the fuck the fuck up.
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>>524346071

Americans are raised in a very cutthroat society with no values. The "fuck you I got mine" mentality is drilled into them from a very young age. Narcissism and low IQ prevents them from thinking they themselves might also need help someday. Bottom line: they are bootlickers for corpos and the rich and have absolutely made their peace with this fact.

>inb4 u hate us
You are my favorite show. I love you little retards like you wouldnt believe
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>>524346636
And where does the state get their money?
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>>524346071
You cannot have universal healthcare with non whites. The math just doesn’t work anon. You’ll find that out soon enough in Australia once you’re overrun with jeets and Asians.
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>>524347248
You guys are the panhandlers of Europe, constantly protesting without a functional economy. Every five years you need a bailout from Germany. I’d be embarrassed to chime in if I were you, but I’m not retarded like you
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>>524347248
See >>524347311
You have no idea what it’s like in the US. The browns are such a drain on the system it’s unreal.
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Get bit by a snake owe the hospital half a million dollars kek wtf

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/k_xnITtLYp4
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>>524346835
>they'd have to start slapping on the cost of the use of these systems to any good you purchase
God forbid true prices be reflected in the market so they can adjust accordingly, amirite?
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>>524347248
>Says all this shit while unironically being the biggest economic dead weight on the EU with Spain and Portugal.
Lol, Lmao, no, you are "exceptionally" retarded.
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>>524346071
Pretty sure making someone work for you for free is slavery.
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let’s just do communism
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>>524347248
>and have absolutely made their peace with this fact.
I tried to bring them to God, for them to know Christ. That will never happen with them. There is no God and Jesus was just a dead guy Josephus recorded.
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>>524346636
So you get taxed to death your whole life to pay for your healthcare. Got it. Its like insurance but mandatory.
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>>524348499
No we must do National Bolshevism. That’s it. Nothing after if it doesn’t work. Return to monke
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>>524346262
>american education
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>>524351644
see>>524349593
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>>524346071
To call something a "right" is to imply someone can br forced to provide it for you against their will. Healthcare is a nice thing to have but it's not a right, same as any privately owned good or service.
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>>524346963
Yup, and that is also criminal. But at least the MIC takes our money and makes other countries worse. Government healthcare would take our money and then make our own lives worse.
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>>524346071
Who performs the healthcare? When your healthcare becomes a right, someone is forced to work for you. And on the other side of that, slaves were all provided free healthcare and housing.



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