Do Asians make a good argument against the western idea of suffering and trauma being necessary for maturity? Asians are a lot happier and more easy going than westerners are. Westerners, even those who fancy themselves as free-spirited liberals on the opposite end from puritans, are still extremely uptight about the concept of "vice" and anything that makes them seem potentially immature or "unserious".Asians, on the other hand, are a lot more easygoing when it comes to "nice and cute things". Their commercial culture is a lot more open about indulging in things that are pleasant or nice. I guess the general tone in contrast to western commerce is a lot more "spiritual positivity". Asians know how to be serious but they also seem much better at choosing the right time and place for it. They are much more secure about themselves and their maturity and think less about losing themselves in things that aren't so serious or mature. Westerners just seem so insecure in comparison.
>>524365575You are thinking of Americans here I guess. Or those accursed perverted Anglos perhaps.
>>524365837Both, yeh.
sex with marisa while she wears her hatid argue its more climate based over racial ideological differencesCloser to the equator the more easy going and fun loving you are day to day with the ability to commit the most fucked up forms of genocide/torture and sexual sadism possible on a collective level
>>524366195I understand this can apply to mainland Chinese who are known for being generally outgoing, but the Japanese while being far more private and insular also fit the other Asian characteristics of security that contrast them with tryharding westerners. Asians "work hard, play harder" while westerners are just sweatlords.
>>524365575>japanese aren't 'insecure'People are the same everywhere. Suffering builds character. The west is only unique in thinking women should be serious in similar fashion to men.
>>524366418>Suffering builds character.Lol Interaction with nature builds character. Paying attention to how things interact with each other physically and studying the relationships between different animals and plants teaches you wisdom. Both westerners and Asians are sufficiently urbanized enough that both should be sufficiently isolated from nature to require PTSD from some ritualistic trauma as a coming of age thing in order to mature properly. But it's only westerners who seem to require the extra help in taming whatever malicious is carried inside them. A malice that is not rewarded with a greater capacity for war or violence either.
>>524365575>Asians>against the idea of suffering and trauma being necessary for maturity...have you never heard of buddhism before?
>>524367012Explain Buddhism to me please
>>524365575>Westerners just seem so insecure in comparison.Given how asian people talk about their parents, I disagree. You seem to not even consider that westerners are also more open with their emotions whereas asians might express symptoms of depression differently, this has been studied in research about postnatal women and so on. And asian culture also gives authorities more permission to vent frustration on underlings... China especially.>Their commercial culture is a lot more open about indulging in things that are pleasant or nice.Many of the foods they eat would be grotesque by western standards so I'm not sure I agree. Asians also have far stricter attitudes on pleasure from drugs, and I don't think western hostility to monetization in shit like videogames is a bad trend... Koreans love pay2win garbage. In terms of aesthetics I definitely think northern and eastern Europe are a bit more sombre about media but the Mediterranean is a more extended family oriented region
>>524367528>Many of the foods they eat would be grotesque by western standards so I'm not sure I agree. Asians also have far stricter attitudes on pleasure from drugs, and I don't think western hostility to monetization in shit like videogames is a bad trend... Koreans love pay2win garbage.>In terms of aesthetics I definitely think northern and eastern Europe are a bit more sombre about media but the Mediterranean is a more extended family oriented regionI'm mostly talking about aesthetics, yes. Westerners care a while lot about not being seen enjoying anything hand drawn and cel-shaded, for example. I understand it's tough for you to understand how the grotesqueness of bugs and less conventional animal parts is compatible with my statement, but that really does result from a difference in mindset along with cultural upbringing. There's strong overlap with that "easygoing"-ness and the suspected asian psychopathy that has been mentioned from time to time.>You mean like when they torture cats?No, that's genuine psychopathy. Unrelated. You don't have to find bugs palatable but I think westerners would benefit from learning to make use of more animal parts. Chicken feet are tedious to eat but there's a reason Asian skin is so much nicer and ages so much better, and it's not because they are food snobs.
>>524365575The core conflict stems from a philosophical divergence in scale. Western thought, rooted in Greek tradition, positions the individual as the fundamental social unit. This can evolve into an extreme individualism that dismisses shared identity or place as regressive.Eastern thought, shaped by Confucian principles, establishes the group: family, clan, community, etc. as the primary unit. This can lead to a rigid utilitarianism where the individual is readily sacrificed for the perceived prosperity and harmony of the collective.Thus, we see a mirrored dilemma: one tradition risks social fragmentation by prioritizing the self, while the other risks suffocating the self by subsuming it completely within the whole.
>>524368015Thank you chatgpt
