How do they cope over this bullshit?>Ummm every time this happens jesus was joking in the bible or something>Yes gods book of jokesThen your religion is a joke!>REEEEE
I don't understand what the objection is here.
Yes Peter is Satan.The same water who founded the church.This one could conclude confidently that the church is in fact THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN!YOU DUMB NIGGERS DIDN'T READ THE FUCKING BOOK
>>524376051The same Peter*
>>524375929>Be god>Send your holiest of holy son to Israel>Jews proven to violate their own amendments to sentence jezus to death>Based god proves jews are jews>Pewter Jewdersmitsz wants jesus to not follow the rule of the law, prove himself to be abive the law by virtue of divinity>Jesus calls him out on this bullshit. >Socrates was right to drink the poison >Society is a function of men being able to sacrifice themselves for the greater good of our family, society and lawful behaviour. >Jews get absolutely BTFO>Pewter Jewdersmitz confirmed low IQ arab race degenerate
>>524375980>I don't understand what the objection is here.????Restate your question chat GPT
>>524375929"Satan" is a Hebrew word (שטן) for "adversary."He was rebuking Peter for thinking only of worldly things, and not of the things of God.
>>524376051>This one could conclude confidently that the church is in fact THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN!So all Christians are satanists?All christians are the synagogue of Satan and the children of the devil?>Yes Peter is Satan.Like continue the line of thinking.Have a picture.
>>524375929>OP thinks his crappy cartoon disproves God almighty, the Lord of Infinity, Jesus Christwe're reaching levels of cope that shouldn't even be possible
>>524376425>>Jews proven to violate their own amendments to sentence jezus to deathWhat would happen if the jews never killed jesus?Are you clowns not saved by the death of jesus?No death of jesus = world ruled by satan or something?
>>524376476>"Satan" is a Hebrew word (שטן) for "adversary."So like predicted>Everything I do not like in the bible is a jokeCall me next time when god decides to write a serious book.>Noo SATAN THE DEVIL SATANSo how are to figure out when the bible talks about Satan Lucifer the morning star the magical creature and when it talks about some human accuser.>"Satan" is a Hebrew word (שטן) for "adversary."No sorry did catch you in a lie there it means accuser not adversary. Stop asking chat GPT for help retarded Christians! >The Hebrew term śāṭān (Hebrew: שָׂטָן) is a generic noun meaning "accuser" or "adversary",Trying to twist the word of god are we again christ fucks?>Soo umm basically I pick what I like form the pastors who I like who make all their bullshit up and ignore the bible.So much for sola scriptura! >He was rebuking PeteContinue> for thinking only of worldly things,See peak copium!Like wow really needed to twist the story this time did you christ fuck?No Peter wanted to protect jesus from being killed by the jews.So next time you say >Jews = evil because they killed jesusWe know you are literally SATAN and have nothing of god in you! >>524376577>crappy cartoonAWWW do you need AI to generate you pictures christ fuck? >disproves It literally makes your religion impossible.>crappy cartoonThese are pictures to illustrate what is happening in the bible since you are clearly to retarded to read it on your own or understand it.
>>524376437Ok so I understand now reading the thread. Your objection is that Jesus is saying, Peter is literally, actually, Satan incarnate, rather than the obvious meaning that everyone has universally understood for 2000 years until half an hour ago.
>>524377118>Your objection is that Jesus is saying, Peter is literally, actually, Satan incarnateThat is one interpretation the interpretation I expected the christian side to push... However full crazy self debunking you go!> rather than the obvious meaning that everyone has universally understood for 2000 years until half an hour ago.1) Spell out this interpretation then. SAY IT!>universally understood for 2000 years 2) Oh stop with the bullshit 99% of christians will piss and shit themselves since 99% of them have no idea this ever happened in the bible.3) The alternative you are pushing is that >Here the word satan is a meaningless insultThis is another interpretation.And this debunks your religion!>Hey everyone! >Our god wrote a book of instructions!>Only he wrote is like trash and sometimes important words like Satan are meaningless insults or descriptions>Gota love that theology based on these 5 verses that use the word SATAN in the bible! This debunks your own religion! I remind you only of this fact now. For the record!>Noo my Dantes inferno / paradise lost fanfiction of a fanfiction religion is based on 5 verses in the bible that use the word SATAN!Prove they are not insults!
Are you serious? This really tripped you up? Out of all of the difficult stuff in the Bible, this stumped you?
>>524376955>So much for sola scriptura!What about the catholics or the orthodox?
>>524377374Ok nevermind I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Can you just go back to spamming about iron chariots or something? That one at least made sense on a surface level.
>>524377440>I can literally not talk about this part of the bibleLOL why is that?>[I pretend like this is not an issue]LOL you run away like the coward with your book that debunks your own religion> this stumped you?You can not lie here. I know I can make Christians freak out if they read it for the first time.> this stumped you?look there are only 2 options A) The bible is serious when using the word satan Therefore christian theology gets far more interesting and bizarre with the first pope being literally Lufifer morning star an angel and the devil himself who hanged out with jesus all this time.B) Thhe bible is not serious when using the word satanTherefore your religion is debunked since your god decided to give us a trash book of jokes instead of real instructions. There are no other options!
>>524377509>That one at least made sense on a surface level.What about the deeper level? Why couldn't he deal with iron chariots?
Ignore the toothpaste jew, you retards.
>>524377828idk man I just kinda wanted to know wtf OP was talking about because I genuinely do not get it.
>>524377482>orthodox?Don't know about them they are literally a minority of christians the majority are catholicks and protestants.See graph!https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/World_Chrisitianity_Graph.png>catholics Oh that is even more easy to debunk.Catholics are self contradictory and sola scriptura by self admission.>Here look we are the Catholics here the bible says the first Pope is Peter!Ok however if you read later it says Peter is literally SATAN!>STOP READING THE BIBLE ON YOUR OWN!>YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO INTERPRET IT ON YOUR OWN!Then why the fuck did you go to me and start babbling and quoting the bible you self contradictory fuck! See this is all you need to debunk catholicism.Either we the lay are allowed to read and understand the bible or we are not!Pick one! Catholicks can not stop self contradicting on this subject! I presume Orthodox are the same. However I do not give a shit to look into minority bullshit if I debunked over 75% of christieanity then I do not see the need to trash retarded clown costumed from Russia to see when they self contradict! Same for tribal religion and other bullshit.We are finished here I am ex catholic and they(the RCC) can not trick me! I was born into the RCC (Roman Catholick Churche)! Every lie they try will be exposed!>catholics on another note Catholicism if purged all of its protestant elements is basically>OBEY THE POPE! BECAUSE ... SHUT UP!You really want to do whatever the pope says? Your migrant foot ready to kiss is here Hans.PS: This picture is LITERALLY catholick conversion propaganda. This is LITERALLY a line that a Catholick clergy uses while talking to other lay catholicks.We are LITERALLY so finished right here right now!
>>524376955You have an unclean spirit, Christ can heal you if only you'd ask.
>>524378068OP equivocates Peter and Lucifer on the descriptor "Satan". His understanding is, if the Bible ever uses a word to describe Lucifer then that word belongs only to Lucifer and can't be used to describe someone else without the Bible losing credibility. Because, if one word can be used to describe two things, how will you ever be able to figure out in which instance it means which of the two things? >>524378097>picrelThey call hell 'the netherworld' in toothpasteland? Bit on the nose, isn't it?
>>524377611Satan means adversary and Peter was telling God that his will should not be done. People and demons can go against God's will.
>>524378173Can Christ give my spirit a thorough soapy back rub, pretty please?
Everyone in 2025 is either hyper autistic or hyper schizophrenic. They are either 100% literal or they see signs and meaning in the ice cubes of their drink. It's fucking exhausting.
>>524377828>Why couldn't he deal with iron chariots?How about the fact that god lied while the snake told the truth?However 1 subject at a time.>Why couldn't he deal with iron chariots?INVALID ID 7qBt9Xq/ Either we operate under sola scriptura or we do not. You also need to pick on this subject.
>>524378173>[I can not cope with the subject so I say my christ fuck bla bla words]Learn to think retard!>unclean spirit, So why can you not defeat me?Did you not have magic words or power from god to defeat the devil? Or does this only refer to peter the human????
>>524378553>How about the fact that god lied while the snake told the truth?My snake always tells the truths ifywim.>INVALID ID 7qBt9Xq/kek>Either we operate under sola scriptura or we do not.>You also need to pick on this subject.Sure let's do sola scriptura.
>>524378388>how will you ever be able to figure out in which instance it means which of the two things?Yep this is the point.>losing credibilityLets see1) Bible is 95% pointless bullshit and walls of text that are irrelevant>These are the generations of...>Sacrifice the animal and sprinkle its blood...The Dantes inferno Paradise Lost Christianity we all know is literally pseudo supported by 9 or 10 verses that use the word SATAN or HELL Like literally out of nowhere some bible character like jesus mentions something about this hell or this devil thing or this holy spirit thing in like 1 verse and never mentions it again.Even if you ignore all the clown world jesus happenings in the bible like when jesus comically exploded with fog when a woman placed her hand on him and she stole some of his power you get a religion whose entire cosmology is based on made up bullshit based on 1 shot unexplained verses thrown out in random conversation. There are like 10 of them and this is it2) Based on this you expect god to be ultra precise with his language when he talks about SATAN or anything like that. Yet he is not.This basically finishes the religion. Who cares if jesus will comically explode if any human places his hands on him. The fact is that god did give us the bible and it explains nothing! It ifs full of irrelevant shit and stupid stories and it only gets worse with jessu and his retarded debates in the NT.
>>524378418>Satan definition>1) A human that jesus does not like>2) A magical creature named Lucifer morning star the devilDo you not see the problem here?
>>524378801>Sure let's do sola scriptura.OK under sola scriptura explain WTF happened in Matthew 16!2) And you are a chrisitan or what?>>524378388>They call hell 'the netherworld' in toothpasteland?And German has no distinction between Heaven the magical good dimension and Literally the Sky!So since we can fly planes into the sky and above it ..... You continue this line of thinking while I quote the Soviets after launching the first astronauts>I see no god up here
>>524379035Care to share those 10 verses? if it's not too much hassle.>OK under sola scriptura explain WTF happened in Matthew 16!In Matthew 16, we see Simon Peter act both his best and his worst. First we see Simon show his faith in Jesus and Jesus is praising him for that, later we see Peter act the exact opposite, showing his lack of faith and Jesus is condemning that, even though Peter is now carrying his honorific. This passage tells me that people who've been good in the past may still do bad in the future and that I should judge acts by their nature and not by the nature of whoever did the act.>2) And you are a chrisitan or what?I believe in the trinity but I also have some believes that most, if not all Christians might find heretical.>And German has no distinction between Heaven the magical good dimension and Literally the Sky!Fair point.
>>524375929Do you really think people cant see past the kvetch and recognize these bitter threads are all in response to the growing recognition that jews are children of the devil, exactly as Jesus said they are? Are you that bitter more and more christians are recognizing "israel" for what it is and refusing to support its gay and fake tikkun olam bullshit like the massacre in gaza?Daily reminder jews hate Christ and Christ knows why.39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
>>524379275Oh this >>524380021 also responds to this >>524379275I accidentally deleted the reference
>>524376606So wait a minute. If people were only saved because Jesus was sacrificed, did nobody ever go to heaven before he died? Or was it some weird thing where they suddenly couldn't anymore until he was crucified
>>524381908According to Google ai they wait at picrel lol
>>524376955Yes anon, there is satire and metaphors in the Bible. Are you really that autistic? Molech and Beelzebub are literally puns, the title of "lucifer" is satirical, and Jesus spoke in nothing but parables. There's also a telenovella at the end that has nothing to do with God at the end in Esther
>>524382350>There's also a telenovella at the end that has nothing to do with God at the end in Estherkek, what? I should've paid more attention in church
>>524375929Gosh. You really have no clue what that scene was about. Jesus understood that his role was to be a sacrifice for the sins of mankind (actually, not all of mankind but just the Children of God, but I don’t want to get tangled up in the doctrine of Election). And Peter, like Jews of his day, wanted the Lion Messiah…he wanted the conquering messiah, not the lamb, the sacrifice (the Lion was to come later). Jesus correctly interpreted Peter’s intention. Had Peter succeeded in saving Jesus from the Roman centurions, he would never have made the sacrifice that freed mankind from the bondage of sin. And the specific reason he told Peter, “get behind me, Satan” was because Satan had already tempted Jesus in exactly this way. But yeah, the next iteration of Messiah will be similar to Jesus in certain ways, but very different in others. He won’t be making any sacrifices. And he also need not be blameless in the law. The law was fulfilled. Ironically, the next iteration of Messiah will eschew peace; and Satan will be tempting him to that end. I’d say you’re all in for quite a lot of surprises.
>>524382723>I’d say you’re all in for quite a lot of surprises.Will the lion Messiah be a women?
>>524382858No.
>>524375929Because the apostles were stupid fucking retards who had no idea what Jesus was or about anything he was saying. At this point Jesus was just trying to finish his task and get off this shithole and Peter the dumbfuck has to mess with everything as usual. Also they were all archons anyway.
>>524379035>retard imageThe point of Ezekiel being forced to do that was the recreation of Jerusalem's siege-time conditions of survival before it happened establishing himself as a prophet to SCREAM at the people that "this is going to happen to you because you strayed from righteousness"We LITERALLY do the same thing to this day with error on the timing as retards sit in their bomb shelter basements and eat beans and MREs out of expectation of miseries and calamities to come (which never do)The length to which Ezekiel is commanded to go is to show not just the first week of the apocalypse where you eat your stored up grain and savings in your bugout bag but the dire conditions months and years into that state where you've run out of wood or whatever fuel and are forced to use dried cow patties and eventually human ones if you want anything to burn to make anything hot (which you would HAVE to in order to use the meager amount of grain you have as your only food supply remaining) The entire point of him in that state is "REPENT OR LOOK LIKE THIS IN A YEAR" and what makes it prophesy is that they heard him, ignored him, and were punished in that EXACT manner of depraved starvation.
>>524380021Also interesting the two betrayals Christ suffered and the difference in the way he dealt with each. But it’s important to understand the nature of each betrayal and why one was forgiven and the other led to perdition. Judas betrayed Jesus for profit. It was a financial transaction. And Judas hung himself in shame. Peter betrayed Jesus due to fear, was grievously sorry and was given the Keys. This unstable and emotionally charged man, Peter, was ironically the rock upon which Jesus built his church. Interesting stuff.
>>524380286That’s one of the things I admire most about Jesus. He could absolutely savage the his foes with turns of phrases and insights which left them stammering and seething.
>>524383136Oh. Because I know such a person with a fitting name and a heart to bring peace through conflict.
>>524383293It's pretty chuuni, like Akagi or something.>Oh my God he's so AMAZING nobody ever GETS HIM he's LITERALLY ME
>>524382350> Molech and Beelzebub are literally puns, the title of "lucifer" is satirical, and Jesus spoke in nothing but parables.You haven’t the faintest idea what you’re talking about. Molech is very real. Lucifer is a title, but it refers to an actual entity. Christ once called himself “the Morningstar”, which is another title for this Lucifer character who’s symbolized by Venus, the Morningstar. Venus is the brightest star in the heavens and presages the arrival of the sun.
>>524383732>It's pretty chuuni, like Akagi or something.I don't know what any of those words mean.
>>524383648That doesn’t surprise me at all. As the day of his revelation approaches, his spirit will animate many throughout the world. In fact, you will begin to see this spirit you observe in your friend become more and more common as that time approaches.
>>524378097HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>524383384>The entire point of him in that state is "REPENT OR LOOK LIKE THIS IN A YEAR" and what makes it prophesy is that they heard him, ignored him, and were punished in that EXACT manner of depraved starvation.I don't think this debunks that image at all. Why would anyone see someone voluntarily cooking his food over shit when he doesn't have to, and listen to even one other word he says? You'd think an all-powerful deity who created humans would have a mild understanding of how our brains work and know that wouldn't convince anyone of anything. He'd probably try something else, like maybe putting a sign in the sky, or sending down a stone slab that writes out the prophecy, or sending an invincible angel, or anything at all that would put the supernatural beyond the shadow of a doubt.That almost reads like /pol/'s theory of karma disclosures, like God could technically say he "told" the people what would happen even though he would know nobody would ever believe that. Which is really more evil than just saying nothing.
>>524383855Lucifer is a joke title for precisely what you said. The morning star is briefly the brightest star for a time, and is then eclipsed by the rising sun. It illustrates a sudden fall from great power And molech is "MLK" which means sacrifice, but the vowels are of the word "Bosheth" which means "shame". So its a shameful sacrifice.
>>524383384Ah yes. A convenient prophecy written to pretend that somehow everything was supposed to happen and it was all according to plan. Just like when Roman writers almost always wrote that some figure's death was prophesied by a seer. It's almost like the old testament was a collection of mythical fables compiled and modified to justify the existence of a 4th or 5th century kingdom if it not a fable compiled to justify an independence Hasmonean kingdom in the 3rd century. Exploiting local beliefs to prop up a monarchy or empire is an old trick. One of the oldest tricks in the book. >>524384246It's interesting the whole thing was more of a description of Ezekiel being "upright and lawful" because Yahweh said he can use cowpies to cook instead of human waste because Ezekiel said "he never ate any unclean thing in his life." It's notable to mention that "clean" and "unclean foods" were common classifications in the near east, especially in Egypt, for the purpose of delineating the acceptable behavior of the priesthood. You were not allowed to eat pork as an Egyptian priest because it was seen as RITUALLY UNCLEAN. Sort of the same way there is the "unclean" for whatever standard meaning you had to be separated and could not partake in the Temple services with the Jews if you were ritually unclean. The difference however is that the Jewish religion required normal people to partake in Temple rituals so the ban on ritually unclean things was extended to them.
>>524383962Those words warm my heart, brother.
>>524375929The entire Bible is full of vague bullshit that can be interpreted in whatever way is convenient.That's why there are tens of thousands of denominations of christcuckery all claiming to be the real christianity.Christianity is a proto-communist death cult.
>>524375929The disciples do not truly grasp who Christ is until after the passion. Peter can say the right words by revelation, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God," and Jesus even blesses him and says that this was not revealed by "flesh and blood" but by the Father in heaven. But his imagination is still unbaptized. He wants a Christ without a cross. This is why Jesus rebukes him upon Peter telling Him "God forbid, Lord. This will never happen to you." Jesus says>"Get behind me, Satan. You are a cause for stumbling to me, because you are not intent on the things of God, but the things of people."The kingdom without obedience, glory without sacrifice. "Get behind me" means both, "Stop blocking my way," and, "Return to your place as a follower." Peter belongs behind the Lord, following Him, not in front of Him, correcting Him.
imagine believing in an imaginary fairy sky daddy with magical powers
