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Fascists often portray their ideology as the forbidden truth that is censored and hidden by the elites but the truth is this more applicable to communism.
>Had a government funded campaign to persecute its members
>Has been subjected to decades worth of misinformation and distortion
>Every modern communist party distorts what communism is and are far-cries from what Marx laid out
>Actually seeks to completely alter the organization of society rather than reverting to some idealized version of the past
>Even just making this post will get people to comment ad-hominem attacks or say shit that demonstrates they don't know the first thing about Communism
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>>524395475
Pinguins treat me better then black women do.
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what about the fact that there is literally marxist derived ideology in our mainstream academia? im pretty sure your comeback will be "well critical theory isn't what marx said its revisionist!" but this is just a purity spiral that could be used to claim essentially any century-and-a-half old ideology is being ACTIVELY COVERED UP because nobody practices it in its old form. ideologies evolve, idiot, and thats why your 3rd argument here really sucks.
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You got it backwards Facisim is commusm evolved.
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>>524395475
true
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>>524396110
>"well critical theory isn't what marx said its revisionist!" but this is just a purity spiral that could be used to claim essentially any century-and-a-half old ideology is being ACTIVELY COVERED UP
Except critical theory is just objectively not Marxist, like point blank. You can seethe as much as you want, you'd only be proving my point. Mainstream Academia has literally been the one stop shop for liberal intellectuals to distort Marx and turn him into a radlib and strip him of all his revolutionary edge. What you describe as marxist derived ideology (which it isn't) is so far removed form marx that to call it the same ideology but "evolved." Marxism cannot be evolved because its core analysis and claims remain true to this day, the form of capitalism may change but its content is the exact same.
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>>524395475
>>Had a government funded campaign to persecute its members
>>Has been subjected to decades worth of misinformation and distortion
>>Every modern communist party distorts what communism is and are far-cries from what Marx laid out
>>Actually seeks to completely alter the organization of society rather than reverting to some idealized version of the past
>>Even just making this post will get people to comment ad-hominem attacks or say shit that demonstrates they don't know the first thing about Communism
I could literally replace the word "Communism" with any socioeconomic policy and everything you just said would still apply.
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>>524395475
OP is a faggot
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>>524395475
Marx was a fucking retard who believed in labour theory of value and that work inertia would seize to exist once everyone got free shit lmao.
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>>524396317
>Except critical theory is just objectively not Marxist
Look dude I'm just going to say it: Marxism is not possible in the modern era. It was a fun idea for its time, but it was not built for the reality of global geopolitics & socioeconomics. Massive continent-spanning corporations trading stock in milliseconds is not something Marx could have intuitively predicted.
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>>524396374
>Marx was a retard for believing a mainstream economic theory during his lifetime, obviously he should have used time travel to foresee the future silly marxoid
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>>524396317
critical theory is not fucking liberal by any stretch of the imagination you mongrel. in dialectic of enlightenment adorno and horkeimer literally argue that enlightenment liberalism was responsible for fascism and genocide. i've noticed your leftypol sorts all use this same subversive tactic, define what is "leftist" as what follows marx most closely, and anything which expands on marx (like critical theory) as essentially being "liberal corruption". do you have any fucking clue what you are even talking about? you are WAY OUT OF YOUR FUCKING DEPTH lol.
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Only retards think the Jewish satanist Marx created a real system to liberate humanity from oppression.
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>>524396374
>Marx was a fucking retard who believed in labour theory of value
/thread
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>>524396494
>liberalism was responsible for fascism
Liberalism is responsible for Liberalism, shocking
>define what is "leftist" as what follows marx most closely
Leftists cannot be Marxists, Leftists are just libs who wrongly think they are more radical than dems while knowing nothing
> and anything which expands on marx (like critical theory) as essentially being "liberal corruption"
Because it is objectively true
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>>524396430
Ok so you admit Marx's theory is relying fallacious presuppositions.
Great.
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>>524396412
>Massive continent-spanning corporations trading stock in milliseconds is not something Marx could have intuitively predicted.
He may not have predicted this exactly, obviously, but he did state that capitalism would grow increasingly more centralized, interconnected, and globalized. So while he obviously could not have predicted the tech and the specifics, the broad concept he did.
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>Had a government funded campaign to persecute its members
pretending that the brown scare didn't happen, also pretending that "hate speech" laws which target reactionary politics don't exist.
>Has been subjected to decades worth of misinformation and distortion
assuming collective ignorance to be a meticulous plot against your ideology (despite having your own subverters in positions of power) you need to expand on this argument, its worthless on its own.
>Every modern communist party distorts what communism is and are far-cries from what Marx laid out
i already raped u on this point but i will reiterate, an ideology evolving with time is not necessarily some fucking plot to distort your movement by the hecking capitalists
>Actually seeks to completely alter the organization of society rather than reverting to some idealized version of the past
we are reactionaries. this post is trying to frame communism as appealing to reactionaries. this point does not belong here.
>Even just making this post will get people to comment ad-hominem attacks or say shit that demonstrates they don't know the first thing about Communism
evidently this is not what happened, you have a lot of arguments you have yet to address, pseud.
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>>524396110
Critical race theory, gender studies and other such degeneracy is "Marxist-derived" the same way Brittany Venti is "white".
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>>524396671
Economic Marxism is just as retarded as cultural Marxism. Egalitarianism is just the materialist manifestation of Satan’s appeal for equality with God.
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>>524397025
>Egalitarianism
Marx was not an egalitarian
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>>524396671
>fascism is liberalism
a system based on rigid hierarchies (which are enforced through direct restriction of positive freedoms, not through lack of negative freedoms) is not fucking liberalism.
>leftists cannot be marxists
might aswell not even use the term "leftist" if we are going to pretend its completely meaningless, lol.
>because it is objectively true
except when they do not modify marxian thought from a liberal or enlightenment point of view. what do you even define liberalism as?
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>>524395475
not a single person here believes this. stop wasting your time, stop sliding our board
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>>524397025
Exactly. Not only the Marxist derived concepts which we know as the wokeism conglomerate today "muh oppression, muh unfair power structure" etc is retarded and wrong, but so is classical economic Marxism.
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>>524395475
communism is cucked kike faggot shit for retard shitskin stupid nigger mother fuckers, you dumb little kike homophile.
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>>524396986
both have these elements incorporated in them? yes, thats why i used the word "marxist derived" not "purely marxist". what a fucking redundant statement on your part, lmfao. still not a single contradiction in what i said.
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>>524395475
This is true in the sense that communists are champions at infiltrating institutions and utilizing violence to achieve their goals, imposing lasting changes. We (fascist chuds) should learn from them.



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