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Have you ever changed your beliefs based on a debate?

How often do people actually change their views, when they've made up their mind?

I think trannies are weirdos, but like... If a nigga is already mid transition, what does it matter I call it out as weird - when they already fucked up their life? Does it even matter?
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>>524397180
Every time somebody brings up politics I tell them don't talk about that shit with me because I don't want to fucking hear it. Not sure if based or autism but it's how I feel and how I act.
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I traveled around the entire political compass during my life precisely because I discuss politics and change my mind when exposed to new information. If I didn’t, I’d still a conservative like I was as a child, or an edgy libertarian like I was as an early teenager, or retarded libleft like I was in my late teens.
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talking politics is becoming part of a greater hivemind
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>>524397180
>Have you ever changed your beliefs based on a debate?

Yes. Because I was introduced to new information. In my experience that's the most effective means of changing opinions. Most people aren't particularly well informed and if you expose them to the information that lead you to believe what you believe they may reach the same conclusions on their own. Some people will refuse to see the truth even when exposed to it; but there is hope for some of them.
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>>524397349
The fuck are you now?
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>>524397180
>political debate doesn't change minds
That's literally what democracy is about, though. By refusing that, you're refusing our entire western philosophy.
It's right, of course. Debate doesn't convince, only violence does. Whether that is actual violence or just the ever-present threat.
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>>524397180
The only thing that's ever gotten me to change my mind about anything is earnest, open, communicative, professional debate.
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>>524397180
It's an essential part of realising the mainstream is fake. Openly talking mano-a-mano empowers you because you realise people feel just like you do and you're not in fact an extremist freak.

That's why they created the social etiquette rule not to talk about politics in th first place.
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>>524397180
Politics, religion and sports are the 3 conversation killers.
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>>524397479
I guess if would be called leftism, but with some social conservatism in the guise of the ideal of the American dream of the 50s and 60s. it’s different. I believe that if someone works, they should be able to support a family on that single income. After food, water, and shelter, the next important aspect of society is community. Basically every town needs community centers within walking distance where people can hang out whenever they want. The ideal situation is to live in semi rural communities of about 40 families (like the Amish, but you have technology), but you can’t do that for everybody because you still need society organized at a larger scale to produce things like medicine. Military is also a necessity, but purely in a defensive sense (no wars for israel). America produces a food surplus, so it can survive a more isolationist position unlike food importers like China. Immigration is severely limited, and only allowed if everyone currently within the country is prospering. Basically, for most of human history, the majority of people lived in smaller communities, and that genuinely is the best situation for human happiness. These communities would self police, allowing for the execution of psychopaths as they appear, like we would in the past. The major issue I have with our hyper atomized society is that it’s specifically built to benefit sociopaths and make good people suffer. As far as government, the only somewhat trustworthy system would be run like jury duty, a random adult is chosen in a lottery every 4 years from each community of considerable size. As far as rank in the political arena, that also is random. Any other system for selecting leaders is too at risk for corruption.
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>>524397180
I love how no one on pol enjoys politics
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>>524399340
The game of politics itself is sociopathic and evil.
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>>524397180
>relationships and experiances do
Ah yes the herd mentality.
And yes political debate has changed my mind because i am not an insecure retard.
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>>524397998
What are you supposed to talk about then?
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>>524401182
The weather.
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>>524397180
>Goy you gotta stop talking about politics. People are starting to think Hitler maybe right after all.
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>>524397459
It's a fundamental luciferian idea to spread knowledge, to spread enlightenment freely, yet the real deals in power do everything they can to horde it for themselves so they can control the approval seeking.
Funny shit
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>>524397180
Things will never change until the intelligence agencies, underground military-industrial-complex lairs and defense contractor facilities are stormed and the glowniggers and parasites who work there are executed and the data they collect is leaked to the public so that the rest of these government assets, zogbots, mercenaries, glorified jannies and authority figures can be hunted down and exterminated.
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>>524397180
>smaks lips
>das rite chuds
>facks over feelins
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>>524403931
>luciferian
Lucifer is a lie and the gnostics are right. Knowledge is tied to holiness.
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>>524397180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbkysPTnHc
Social media has primed an environment where this type of degeneracy is not only accepted, it thrives. Social media desensitizes and radicalizes even moderates into believing heinous and abhorrent behavior is acceptable under the correct context. Spend just 5 minutes on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, you will find hordes of these deranged people. They exist among us. The FBI knows about them but never acts until it is far too late. Western society is on a one-way fast track to collapse as long as social media continues to destroy minds and decay the culture.
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>>524405332
Fbi is complicit.
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>>524397180
No, only concrete things like taxes money or taking away rights is useful to talk about and organize. For example, right to repair, immigration, and anti-surveillance style Flock cams.
And it matters because some trans are invading female only spaces, breaking the law but getting away with it in liberal places. Also their targeting of young children, who have not developed enough to make permanent decisions like cutting off their body parts.
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>>524397180
There's no point in discussing politics with anyone, ever.
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>>524398374
No saaar that is libtarded saaar you must be obsessed with culture war nonsense and owning the libs! Having reasonable demands for our representatives and prioritizing the prosperity of Americans does not own the libs hard enough!! You lost tranny!
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>>524397180
It got strange when politics turned into a disagreement about whether a man can turn into a woman. If the person you're arguing with believes that much, how can you trust their reasoning on any other topic?
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>>524397180
>yes goy stop talking about things that matter. instead, you should be talking about and getting excited for the next Marvel movie or some other goyslop
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>>524408606
Tbh the average normnigger should not have any political opinions whatsoever, 90% of people are just too retarded and are natural born slaves who muddy the waters for people high IQ enough to actually solve large scale problems.

There should be an IQ test and written literacy/civics/math exams for voting or running for office. The average brownoid is unironically useless biomass and only exists only to feed the economic machine that allows real humans (120+ IQ) to live with enough convenience to contribute to humanity.
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>>524397180
>stop caring about how we are destroying your country and try to make friends with violent animals that want you dead, goy
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>>524397180
>Is talking politics useless?
Yes, that's why I talk about race.
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>>524397180
Yes.
anyone who thinks they can still debate with jews, mudslimes, chinks, jeets, niggers, women, leftists, liberals, socialists, communists & trannies aren't gonna make it.



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