Grim
>>524399776But just think how much psychological damage are Ukranian doing to Russians by forcing them to see that many corpsesNAFO wins again
>>524399776Is Putin still claiming that Russia is a benevolent force that's liberating Ukraine from Nazism, or did he give that shit up?
are any of this sources reliable at this point?
>>524399776i still don't get why this is skirmish is ever posted about.it's irrelevant to real countries, economies, and people.
>>524399776they’d rather upload footage of war crimes committed with drones than fight an actual war kek
>>524399776Are they freezing to death? Can I send them some blankets or help them somehow?Also Russians probably don't publish their numbers
>>524399776Much more than that .Remember Ukraine is overinflating Russian numbers and undercounting their own deaths to sell the image of a competent "rebel" army. Russians as usual are absolutely killing it .
>>524399776most boring, pointless war. no one gives a shit. african tier levels of conflict, completely inconsequential to the rest of the world
You are retarted if you think someone is actually keeping track of the bodiesStatistics are false
>>524399965These are official exchanges, that happened with trucks full of bodies and shit, its was even in mainstream media
>>524399776Look i get Ukrainians are fighting for gay rights in Ukraine but im starting to question is it really worth it?
>>524399776not my problem
What will ukraine be like when its empty
>>524399965>>524400060>>524400157>>524400174AFAIK every third-party assessment says that Russians have suffered significantly more casualties than Ukraine, although "casualties" includes injured and captured people too.
>>524400346better
>>524400363>every thirdparty assessment from countries that support Ukrainefixed
I am sad to anounce that neither country is under enough pressure to even give a shit. Yep after a 4 year bombing campaign the people are still not under enough pressure.
>>524400363There is no "third party". All "parties" are pro Ukraine.
ukraine is commiting national suicide
>>524400423It's not my fault that Ukraine is supported by the civilized world and Russia is supported by third world shitholes.
>>524399776Zigger dont care about truth, they care about jew agenda>invading troops gather more bodies than defending oneAlso gathering bodies of enemies in killzone is dumbest waste of people that you can imagine>still more valuable for jews than white russian male
>>524399965No not really maybe when the wars over we will get some slightly reliable stats depending on how hard the victor re writes it lelpersonally i take both sides claims with a grain of salt
>>524400523But your report could be just a blatant lie, and they are, since they come from non independent third-party reports, you have a dog in that race that is losing hard
>>524400060>Russians as usual are absolutely killing itlmao. the funny part is that there are people who unironically believe this...old Russian women in particular
>>524400616The reports from Western countries are basically in between the claims made by both Ukraine and Russia, though. They're not just repeating what Ukraine says.
>>524399776>Grim>a meaningless table. russia burns bodies of their soldier on an industrial scale.
>>524399776After 4 years of war, Russia is still fighting over towns that are within walking distance from its own border. This, in my opinion, is the end of all discussion regarding Russian performance in this war. Russia cannot wage an offensive war against their much smaller neighbor.
>>524399776You would think that with this K:D ratio russia would be moving faster than a literal snail?
>>524400808you could have just said you were coping with the situation, that would have made a shorter sentence.
>>524399965Russia loses between 6-1 and as high as 14-1 for every Ukrainian who dies, the entire war. Ops data is called malinformation. Its a statistic that doesnt apply, and hed know that if he was above 100 IQ. TLDR: Brown.
>>524400174>kremlin aide Medinsky said>a reliable sourcekek
>>524399776Not surprising. We've known for years that Russians are slaughtering Ukrainians 10:1 at least.
>>524400921I could stroll through the farthest extent of Russian 2025 advances in an afternoon
>>524399776The Ukrainian cope is that they killed the Russians so hard that there is nothing left of their bodies, all dead Russians were completely vaporizes, bones and all.
>>524399776I believe the ratio to be around 1:3 or 1:4drones are a bitch.
>>524401082>It's called malinformationThank you, your post is a perfect example of it.
>>524400174>>524400616so why do you believe the kremlin itself instead of finding an 'independent third party report' are you perhaps, a retarded zigger?
no russian bodies exist anymore because they rot away in the sun
>>524401181and still they only advanced 45 km in over 1,400 days since the full scale invasion. How does that even make any sense to you, pidrila?
>>524401112its probably true because i remember when zelensky dared the russians to show the 10k+ ukrainian dead they claimed they were holding, the russians called it and parked like a million cadaver trucks on the border. ukraine did not have the resources to process that many bodies at once which was embarrassing. there's pic of all the trucks lined up somewhere but i don't have it.
>>5243997762 white christian nations fighting until annihilation with new technology. No matter who wins We lose.
>>524400752So Russia says 200k loses Ukraine says 6 million Russians dead and you split the difference to 1.2 dead Russians as truthOk good to know
>>524401341>a million cadaver trucksare you high on krokodil or something that you're just blathering nonsense?
>>524399776I can see why NAFO would rather spam propaganda and gore here than fight an actual war where the defenders are bleeding manpower. Russia truly won after Bakhmut, what happening to Ukraine right now is a gelding to get rid of future rebels during reconstruction. I hope the Ukraine bros are hunkering down with enough supplies and VPN so their party van doesn't grab them. It really is a lost cause out there.
>>524399776Russia's lost around 3 times as many men as America lost in ww2. They increased their territory by 1.3% in the last year.
>>524401518
>>524401425You're hopeless. Good day.
>>524401650Merry wrong Christmas
>>524401604based
>>524401499Honestly I'd be surprised if Russian military could amass more than a dozen trucks nowadays.
>>524401327Just gonna leave this here
>>524401518I still think they really lost NAFO generals at Bakhmut and this is why they are so crippled now - nobody wants to get gassed to death and buried in concrete.
>>524401425>So Russia says 200k losesrussia said no such thing, it's illegal in russia to publish such data. BUT, what the russian MoD did say is that they issued over 3 million electronic SMO participant benefit cards. This includes all the wounded and families of the dead.https://ria.ru/20251119/servis--2055928649.html
>>524401604>Telegram shithead posts on /pol/>"B-b-b-based!!"
>>524399776How much of Euro gibs is going to payments to the families of these dead hohols?The plus for Ukraine is they can ethnically cleanse their Russians legally.
>>524399776those are just the excanges - ukr is losing its territory so they don't have any russian bodies to exchange.
>>524401809I dont see how its that a proof of anythingIt could be anything including help for civilians that just have combatant in "special operation"
>>524401700what is that even supposed to prove, pidrila? The Allies landed in Sicily in July 1943, half way around the world from their homeland. They had to go over formidable mountains and hills to get to Cassino AND they still covered more distance than russia. russia has occupied Donetsk, 45 km from Myrnohrad, since 2014 and has a direct railroad supply lines to the front and it's mostly flatland. I'm not even talking about russia claiming they're the "2nd mightiest military in the world" ad not able to take small towns. pootin is a total failure!
>>524402157>It could be anythingbut it's not, because russia is extremely stingy with their benefits, especially to their civilians.
>>524402419Don't be such a faggot anon. Russia has show by there actions they are not interested in conquering the Ukraine. It is about specific territory they have claimed in response to ongoing NATO aggression and expansion.
>>524401693So, when are you going to ukraine? Also, you are paying youe fare share of taxes to support them, aren't you anon?
>>524402653>lets compare Russia in 2000 and Russian in 2025
>>524402657>they are not interested in conquering the Ukraine>It is about specific territory they have claimedyou can't be this retarded, you pidor shill?! They can't even conquer the territory they already included in the russian "constitution" in 2022. As the matter of fact they ran away from Kherson, which is according to pootin is now russia. pootind is supposed to declare war and martial law BY CONSTITUTION when russian territory is attacked and/or occupied. pootin is a total failure!
>>524403181You mean that city the Ukro jew and his men broke a dam to flood, so Russia evacuated and retreated until it could freeze or be cleared?
>>524403181you will never be a woman
>>524402843what? Khenstein became the governor of Kursk oblast in December 2024, AFTER Ukraine was supposedly already kicked out. He stated clearly, no money for you peasants, who lost everything due to our special retarded operation.
>>524401604
>>524403516I dint see that shit Z i thought you talk about Kursk submarineAnyhow, how are you connecting "not paying for loss of houses" with "paying only for dead soldiers"?You have special type of money coming in when you are in combat zone, thats probably the thing you see from their ministry, not as dead/injured compensation
>>524399776>Ukraine and Russia fight in spot A>After prolonged fighting, Russia takes spot A>Russia gets to take all the Russian and Ukrainian deceased as they all died in spot A>Russian propagandists: Look we're winning so much we got this many bodies to exchange and they got only this manyYeah, almost like taking the territory where all the bodies are lets you take them all huh. How can Ukraine keep the Russian bodies for an exchange whenever they're behind the frontline? I feel sorry for all those that died.
>>524403259>Russia evacuated and retreated until it could freeze or be cleared.LMAO, it's been 3 fucking years since russians were kicked out of Kherson, you moron, 3 fucking winters. Are they waiting for the ice age or something? Admit it already, pootin is a total failure.
>>524403787Thats a copium because you forget that that is basically stalemate and that Ukraine is doing countreattacks, not that Russia is pushingThat talking point made sense in 2022-2023, its not working for current situation
>>524403787japanese have those robots that collect people who lie on the ground and move them elsewherecould be good solution
>>524400523You aren’t doing a good job of seeming objective, little natofag
>>524399776>ukraine is losong 1000 people to 1 russianUkraine had 1000 million people?
>>524403883Who got to take all the bodies from Pokrovsk? The Russians. It still makes sense up to a large degree, but logically it should be situational. Sometimes the Ukrainians can't evacuate their deceased, but since the frontline is slowly creeping into Ukrainian territories bit by bit, all the bodies left behind end up in Russia's territory. All the Russians Ukraine kills with drones are in the end picked up by the Russians. It really isn't copium because my sincere is hope that they all stop killing each other, so less bodies on either side is my preference.
>>524399776No way, the Utrannyan sources told me Russia has collapsed with 6 million dead
>>524403768>You have special type of money coming in when you are in combat zoneagain, the russia civilians are not getting any benefits because they were "in a combat zone" only military personnel, the wounded veterans and the families of the dead soldiers. Let that sink in, "the special military operation", not a war, has already put over 3 million russians through the grinder with tens of millions now affected in a negative way. That's why they need unlimited jeets now.
>>524403929Yeah, the Ukrainians are using some type of remote controlled robots to evacuate the wounded, but I doubt they'd waste those who make it through on deceased enemy combatants just to "stat pad" body exchanges.
>>524403942I stated an objective fact. Not my fault that the truth offends you.
I did an analysis at the beginning of 2025 and at worst Russian total casualties are 2 to 3 times that of ukraine. Ukraine actually has over 100,000 combat casualties. However vehicle and equipment losses are actually nearly at parity.USA Abrams, at least 28 of 31 lost, first 5 were lost within hours of being deployed to an active battle zone, the first 5 were disabled/killed by Russian drones. Usually lost with loss of life.USA MRAPs - 200+ lost, usually with loss of life. Ukraine land vehicle losses - at least 13,000+Russia land vehicle losses - at least 18,000+= 1 to 1.4 ratioThe situation is so bad on both sides that medevacs (if opted for at all) are almost always performed on foot, this has been the case since 2023. All air and land vehicle assets are essentially instantly destroyed/disabled, usually within 12 weeks of being in the most active areas of the front. This includes "advanced" western armor like abrams. Typically what happens when you bring an abrams near an active front is, if you avoid getting mined first, you will be harrased by artillery and drones day and night until you get disabled. Once disabled the vehicle and any surviving crew are harrassed by drone hawks and artillery until all are crew dead or fully dispersed (typically dead). The disabled vehicles are caught in an endless quagmire and can never be retrieved and are written off or sabotaged/captured. Most disabled armor is typically dead upon disabling (totalled), and would've required total refit of engine and drivetrain anyways to repair.
>>524403181>pidor shillWhy are you natofags convinced that everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian on a VPN? It’s almost funny how predictable you are, like bots with a pulse
>>524399776WHen the dust settles where will the globalist Jews be sending in hordes of orcs from to the shire?
>>524404228>it’s a factNo it isn’t. It’s just you seething like the natofag you are.
>>524399965No.
>>524404293Hello HIVan from New Mexico Oblast.
>>524404112I told you that it doesnt mean that twice and you are still pushing that it means that with 0 proofThere is no van pickups from street in Moscow but there is in Kief for exampleBody exchangesUkraine begging for help Reality doesnt align your projections
>>524399776Minor losesAfghanistan and Iraq lost 1/30 people eachWithout their high birth rate it be overBut likely there will be a baby boom
>>524404482Again, simply repeating your cult mantra doesn’t make it true. What is true is the fact that nato lost, the entire alliance should dissolve, and there hasn’t been a proper man in Germany since 1945
>>524404502>there will be a baby boomHow? All the men are dead and all the women fled west to do Onlyfans. Where will the babies come from?
>>524400346Putin will import mongols to replace them.
>>524404550Sure you can tell your sister in two years how NAFO LOST when she'll be sucking cock for 5 rubles in the ruins of Moscow.
>>524400346kosher
>>524401082Seems unlikely given Russia has massive manpower and firepower advantage still.
>>524401200Why would Russians exchange their own dead bodies?
>>524399776Because the Russians are on the offensive so most of their casualties are already in their territory. It’s amazing how ziggers lack the most basic common sense.
>>524399776Such is life in The Zone.
>>524404817I thought ziggers were losing ground and fleeing, now they're gaining ground?
>>524399776more freedom vannings in jewkraine and gore posting on 4chan will win the war in about 2 weeks,
>>524404498>I told you that it doesnt mean that twice>Reality doesnt align your projectionsthe reality is that Belousov, the minister of defense said they issued over 3 million benefit cards to the smo participants, not some civilians who were in the "combat zone."This is directly from the russian government services web site (Gosuslugi) on who qualifies for the status and benefits:"Who can receive the status of participant in the Special Military Operation and combat veteran:* Contract soldiers.* Mobilized citizens.* Volunteers (including private military companies, if they fall under the relevant legislation).* Employees of law enforcement agencies performing tasks in the Special Military Operation zone.* Medical personnel providing assistance in the combat zone.* Crew members of military ships involved in the Special Military Operation."Only if their contract ended, they were officially demobilized, wounded veterans.
>>524404616it will probably be like bosnia today, a nation of gastarbeiters for several generations while the population dwindles. i don't know what will happen with veterans that will have a shitload of a PTSD though.they will probably import indians or something.those that moved to europe probably won't came back in droves, although ~75%ish of them don't work (valid for germany for example, but almost all of them work in poland). especially those that will settle and find work locally.
>>524404683over half of russia is in asia, i know these things are hard for fatclaps to understand
ukraine is the actual genocide not that palestine shit
>>524404112interestingly enough, 60% of UAE is pajeets, thing is they don't give them any rights, and use them as slaves, in the us they give the shiteaters the royal treatment.
>>524405359>the reality is that Belousov, the minister of defense said they issued over 3 million benefit cards to the smo participants, not some civilians who were in the "combat zone."Third time, this doesnt mean what you think it means, it cannot be connected to soldier that are dead or injured at all
>>524399776>ukraine and the turkish are currently losing at a rate of 1000 dead turkish and ukrainians and to 24 dead RussiansFixed.
>>524405359only a few thousand kikes died in the camps btw, less than the number of kids the kikes killed in gaza, do you agree or disagree, i'll wait for your answer.
>>524400259Man that's grim.So he jumped on the blast impact thinking it was less likely to be booby trapped and it turned out to still have a charge?
>>524399776ukr_pics didn't get time to shill in this thread yet, it seems
>>524405550>it cannot be connected to soldier that are dead or injured at allkek, again, go to their web site if you don't believe me:"The families of those killed in the special military operation are entitled to a comprehensive package of support measures, including federal payments.Who is eligible:Spouses, children, and parents of the deceased/fallen participant of the special military operation. Widows/widowers: Now receive government support regardless of whether they live separately from their parents. Those not eligible: Siblings are generally not considered family members for the purpose of receiving government payments."https://sfr.gov.ru/grazhdanam/Informaciya_dlya_uchastnikov_SVO_i_ih_semei/vyplaty_semyam/
>>524405872I suppose so. He's probably used to using dug out ground as extra cover so it was second nature to jump in it
>>524400363>third-party assessmentkek
>>524406019thats some other thing not 3 million you said on first comment that lead us to hereSo you made 1 claim that is not true in regards of the thing you talk about, used numbers from that claim to connect it to the fact they do indeed pay severance to dead soldiers and you are presenting me >3 million dead russians?
>>524406356where the fuck did I claim 3 million dead russians? you know you're full of shit, so you just make up quotes and play stupid. What I said, quoted the russian minister of defense actually, that they issued 3 million benefit cards, which includes the families of the dead, wounded (crippled) and demobilized for whatever reasons that are eligible for the benefits. Those currently serving in the russian military in the SMO zone are not eligible for the said benefits until they're demobilized. So, we can safely surmise the russian casualty numbers are just staggering, because they demobilize easily right now. This is evidenced by pootin himself:March 25, 2025 "There is one very painful issue," the writer Zakhar Prilepin addressed the president. "The issue of rotating the servicemen who were among the first to go to the front in 2022. We have already exhausted all the words we had in our hearts to comfort the mothers and wives. Because three years without their children, even with leave, is difficult.""The Ministry of Defense is considering this, and, of course, this issue is a pressing one. We certainly haven't forgotten about it. But we will proceed based on the realities that are developing on the line of contact," the head of state said.https://myseldon.com/ru/news/index/326492396
>>524406356>>524407194>russians DO NOT demobilize easily right now.
>>524399776Source or did you just make this up, would be big if true
>>524404773Ah, so you're admitting what we always suspected. Ukraine counts "Russian" casualties, ie, their own draftees who are "Russian," as "Russian" casualties. We've heard they bussify the Russian minorities with precision before too.Now it makes sense, thanks. Ukraine sees this war as a hilarious prank where they can send their own Russian minorities to fight Russia and thus de-Muscovy the place.
>>524404616Make way for the new Ukrainians, just the same as the old ones but with swarthier skin color
>>524404691Let me ask you this seriously, do you and yours genuinely think everyone who doesn’t like you is a Russian? Because that’s borderline schizophrenic if you do
>>524403787you guys told me russia isn't advancing tho, what about the epic snail!?
>>524407449Weird mental gymnastics but no, why would Russians exchange their own dead? In most cases they already have their own corpses.
