Greetings pol,Every wonder what Trump actually meant when he said we had Jet aircraft that could literally disappear? Not just from radar, but from optical light too. The media called him crazy, here's what he meant.Now let's consider this, do you know what a Luneburg lens is? It can be used in devices that under certain conditions act as phase conjugate time reversal mirrors. Especially if a Bose Einstein Condensate is used as a buffer. Anyway, a configuration such as this can probably me used as a type of "Active Cloak" or "Broadband Cloak" for an aircraft (as Luneburg Lens's are already installed upon most US stealth aircraft for supposedly different purposes). Probably functioning in a way similar to how acoustic time reversal mirrors cancel unwanted noise...I would imagine anything below the aircraft (where the Luneburg Lens is usually mounted) probably wouldn't see the craft at all, with any frequency of light.Links to relevant research to follow.
>>524420573well where are the links
>>524420573OP here, different session.Background:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luneburg_lenshttps://www.google.com/search?q=Rinehart-Luneburg+lens&sca_esv=936d85ebda7836af&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1152US1152&sxsrf=AE3TifN070zoteAtG7VTVCu457C60-ObVA%3A1766068017599&ei=MQ9EaZKsJPPhp84PrJ2Q-QY&ved=2ahUKEwjSiNqGrMeRAxXz8MkDHawOJG8Q4dUDegQIBRAN&uact=5&oq=Rinehart-Luneburg+lens&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiFlJpbmVoYXJ0LUx1bmVidXJnIGxlbnMyBRAAGO8FMgUQABjvBTIFEAAY7wUyCBAAGKIEGIkFMgUQABjvBUjOGFDvBVjxEnABeACQAQCYAW-gAYUDqgEDMi4yuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIFoAKdA8ICCBAAGLADGO8FwgILEAAYsAMYogQYiQXCAgUQIRigAcICBRAhGKsCwgIIECEYoAEYwwSYAwCIBgGQBgWSBwMzLjKgB8UOsgcDMi4yuAeYA8IHBTAuNC4xyAcNgAgA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
>>524420898Oh cool I kept the same IDmore links coming:https://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0607418
>>524420573>just surround your aircraft in the most expensive material in the universe so that people cant see yougenius.
>>524420966No, you wouldn't surround the craft with anything. The lens acts as a phase conjugate time reversal mirror. It acts as a simultaneous receiver and transmitter. Using a BEC as essentially an analog computer to perform phase conjugation. It then projects light which creates destructive interference with existing light around the craft...creating an area of non-Euclidian space
>>524421098you have no idea how bec's work.
>>524420966>>524421098https://www.google.com/search?q=bose+einstein+condensate+used+as+phase+conjugate+Time+reversal+mirror&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1152US1152&oq=Bose+e&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCAgBEEUYJxg7MgYIABBFGDkyCAgBEEUYJxg7Mg4IAhBFGCcYOxiABBiKBTINCAMQABiRAhiABBiKBTINCAQQABiRAhiABBiKBTIGCAUQRRg8MgYIBhBFGDwyBggHEEUYQdIBCDQ2NTJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.59.1509
>>524421147>bec's workwtf is it and how does it work, not a long drawn out version
>>524421147feel free to correct me.I'm also sharing links with relevant research. You can do the same.
>>524421206im not doing your job for you.figure it out yourself.
>>524421147anon, you know how noise canceling headphones work right? The good ones first intercepting white noise, then calculate a pattern of interference to re-transmit so that it interferes destructively with the incoming white/ambient noise.This is a very similar concept...except you'd need to use a BEC as a buffer to slow incoming light down in order to calculate and process the time reversal phase conjugation. https://www.science.org/content/article/stopping-light-its-tracks
what about heat signatures
why would anyone waste their time on not being seeing by people?
>>524420573incoherent schizobabble>>524421098do you think talking like a movie smart guy will make anyone think youre smart
>>524421259this kinda spells it out. If I had figured this out 20 years ago it might be a big deal....I think all the world powers know about it, we're probably the only ones (and maybe Russia) that can do it.https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.99.043831
>>524421571Please see: >>524421666
>>524421519Both the best predators and prey in nature use stealth down to an unimaginably perfected degree. In other words, not being seen is one of the most proven effective solid ways to live in this universe.
>>524421571no I don't think I'm smart.I just like connecting dots.Actually building one is what the smart people do.
>>524421418He knows how the tech works. He's just a glownigger that is trying to defame/discredit an anon providing valuable information regarding modern stealth capabilities of NATO aircraft. Naturally this sets off a glownigger alarm somewhere and a jew drops in like a game of warzone to wherever that alarm was triggered on the internet and they start subverting the discussion or discrediting the OP. They also do tons of other retarded shit but it's nothing really new at this point.
>>524421259Why wouldn't you chime in man? I'm not saying I have all the answers. Did I make you mad or something?Didn't mean to sound obstinate here >>524421206
>>524421796well it's not like I could fucking build one so I don't know why they'd fucking care one way or the other. There have to be at least thousands of people who just kinda know it exists. Doesn't mean you have the capability to build on. But ya the demoralization tactics are lame lol.Come on guys, just have fun with it. who cares. I'm sure Russia and China know.
>>524421796It was the FARK discussions recently that clued me in. Zapper Anon and whatnot. He didn't talk about this angle specifically but I kinds pieced it together. Pretty sure I'm like generally in the right direction with the concept at least.
>>524421418hurrrrrrrr thats right use a bose einstein condensate as an eistein rosen bridge to tunnel light past your object
So like, here's another paper:https://www.physics.muni.cz/~tomtyc/papers-tom/sci323_110.pdfBut like what the author concludes by the end, there really isn't a passive way to achieve effective broad band cloaking with just passive metamaterials like split ring resonators. Now maybe you could create a Luneburg lens out of a layered metamaterial. So more like the Rinehart-Luneburg lens configuration.You can receive and transmit probably multiple frequencies of light that way
>>524421435black bodies need the civil right not to emit heat if they dont want to
>>524422102oh...or that.See? This is why I do this.I guess that would be more along the lines of this.https://www.nature.com/articles/s42005-020-0384-5.pdf
>>524421918>it's not like I could fucking build onewhy the fuck not? because you dont have a bose einstein condensate?>>524422244this whaargarbl is the reason the division of ionizing/non ionizing radiation is useless. whats important is electrical and particulate
>>524422244>there really isn't a passive way to achieve effective broad band cloaking with just passive metamaterialsto achieve optical cloaking you need to wear an eink display and a camera, as literally everyone has always known, including the octopus and the chameleon
>>524421744What do you know about a Kozyrev Mirror?
>>524422102>>524422422I mean, it kinda seems like you're bouncing between two distinctly different concepts here.
I accidentally made one of these when I installed a Johnson rod converter into my computer's power supply unit. POOF the fucking thing disappeared, I kicked it over and almost broke my foot. I had to get a cat to find it - they can sense things that have been made invisible as OP knows.Damn circuit burnt out and I never did remember how I had the wires connected after that. But I've seen this.
>>524422452not until just now, thanks.
>>524422422honestly...because you followed up with this, I'm going back to my original concept of destructive interference.But creating non-Euclidian space via interfering EM might also be a thing
>>524420573>I would imagine anything below the aircraft (where the Luneburg Lens is usually mounted) probably wouldn't see the craft at all, with any frequency of light. Would you hear it? I've seen fighter jets fly low over me and they were poo in the pants loud
>>524420573Thanks senpai for telling me it's a camerra UWUgonna maybe shoot you down >_< OWOhow about your stealth paint even?umuuuuuuuuuuhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_cross_section(Σ)
>>524422584Good good. Do you know what happens when you use a Ouija Board placed on a satellite dish?
>>524422774I mean, acoustic time reversal mirrors are a thing...not sure if they're applied in this case but see: >>524421418
>>524422803k thanks.the concept at hand has nothing to do with RAM if that's what you're getting at....unless it's like a type of programmable, metamaterial RAM that can accomplish a type of broad band cloak...it would have to have an active component though and be able to change it's electric and magnetic permeabilities on the fly...which is another area of research I think.
>>524422835Ugh...I hope there's a punchline coming.
>>524421098https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=turbo+encabulator&sp=mAEATurbo encabulator dumbass
>>524420573The most retarded part about this schizo scibabble word salad is that the f-35 isn't supposed to get into close range combat. It should never need active cloaking because if it can be seen with the naked eye it's too close. What the hell do you think BVR means.
>>524422966Thanks for the bump retard.I included relevant research (all in the public domain) within the earlier posts.
>>524422934Thanks for explaining your fancy paint and camera systems using targetable light spectrums ( what you call radar). It will help me shoot you down, humanoid!.
>>524423050In many cases, there are secondary or alternatives uses for certain military tech.Military high powered radar for instance isn't just used for tracking enemy craft, it's also used for Electronic Warfare (and even atmospheric effects) but you don't hear about those aspects as often.
>>524422963That's cute. Have you read anything about the material in chemtrails being used to detect cloaked crafts? That the purpose of the spraying isn't just to mod weather but to detect cloaked craft.
>>524423050not to mention the fact that they US military doesn't advertise ALL of their capabilities on the fucking Discovery Channel or where you get your Wikipedia tier info.
>>524420573ah, another fake gloat by mutts trying to create a fake super power just like old times in cold war era.. meanwhile in reality they got anally destroyed in afghanistan and houthis
I feel like OPs concept lacks imagination Not to mention how is this powered
>>524423259Ya that's certainly a possibility.Pretty sure they use chemtrail particulate matter for multiple purposes.like changing the conductivity of the upper atmosphere for ionospheric heating experiments. Or creating lenses within the atmosphere...or plasma blooms.
>>524423259or fucking with the weather, like you say.Getting freezing rain again here in Michigan
>>524421098Here’s a pic of how it would look cloaked.
>>524422837Good thread, anon, beyond my understanding but I like it
>>524420573Those are radar reflectors, retard. Those are used so aircraft do not mid-air each other.What eurotrash country bought that aircraft?
>>524423050Battle Virtual Rifle
>>524423381uh, ya maybe I guess. Any suggestions?>how to power?Well, the engines of a conventionally powered aircraft can do a lot.But also like maybe a magnetohydrodynamic direct conversion generator...some seed material can be injected into the stream.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_energy_conversionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamic_generatorThe speed of the aircraft would play into this ^Maybe a SCRAM jet could be utilized.Or maybe Lockheed Martin's compact fusion generator which I have a suspicion might be some kind of Electrostatic Inertial Confinement device like this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywell
>>524423499hey, better than nothing.
>>524423196>>524423291This "device" sounds power hungry and heavy. Costing fuel(i.e. range and loiter time) while also being heavy (costing fuel and payload). Just to protect from a situation that it should never find itself in and is already pretty much completed by it's fucking paint. Fucking terrible larp
>>524420898you are a fucking retard who read the ai overview on that search term and thought it was proof that an actual tenable technology exists.
>>524423657ugh! OK I disagree entirely with you here.Most of all, this isn't a LARP...I'm not pretending that I know, just putting shit out there and pointing to relevant research.I'm not pretending I worked on this shit...you even know what a LARP means?
>another expensive mutt wunderwaffen to give kikes untold billions for a different coat of paint>only to get destroyed by sandniggers or slavs and never acknowledged ever again
>>524423701Here is someone with an IQ actually over 100 in this thread
>>524423701No that AI is there for you.That's not where I got the concept from.I explained where the concept came from here: >>524422004
>>524421147figure it out person
>>524423657The military basically has an unlimited budget. Yeah they try to be efficient in some regards but let’s be real, it’s it’s the “best” overall solution they’ll do it regardless of costs.Look at the SR-71 Blackbird. Amazing craft but they could basically only fly each once a week because of the insane coatings and preparation required.
>>524423770We know you aren't pretending you know how anything works, your comments make it pretty obvious you are aware you have no idea how it works.
>>524423897ok.He shouldn't have called it a LARP then.
>>524422102I used a golberg levi silverstein condensate as a cohen horowitz stern kramer schwartz bridge on mine
>>524423947lulz
>>524423381His cute little paint and cameras are going to try to blind me but since I am a superhuman I can see him and shoot his little radar cross section and cute little active jamming systems UMU. It's gonna look like a small little bird and terrified eyes darting around in the sky before it's demise like a rabbit watching a cat pounce it's target.
>>524423830The sr-71 had a specific role and it was designed for that role. It didn't have superfluous equipment, like a cannon just incase it gets into a dogfight, because that's not it's role or how it'd be used.I'm also not talking about cost, I'm talking about performance.
>>524420898>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luneburg_lens>Removable Luneburg lens type radar reflectors are sometimes attached to military aircraft in order to make stealth aircraft visible during training operations
oh I forgot to post this too.Just like a little concept of introducing Luneburg lens antennas into the commercial wireless communication networksJust kind of interesting looking at the design. Nothing to do with cloaking in this case. https://www.matsing.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Matsing-White-Paper-Luneburg-Lensed-Antennas.pdf
$250 drone can take that out
>>524424104Ya, I acknowledged that in the OP.Again, things can have secondary uses that aren't directly elucidated to the public. The US military does not advertise all of their capabilities on Wikipedia, or where niggers like yourself get your info from.
>>524420573Does that Limbergh Lens know where the light is at all times?
Nobody 'optically' detects fighter aircraft during war.Optical cloaking does nothing to mask the sound of aircraft, and it doesn't mask the thermal trials they leave behind.This shit is so simple Underseige 2 was able to explain it to fans of Steven seigal. OP is fucking retarded.
>>524424281actually that's the interesting thing. Using a BEC buffer for the phase conjugation processor, it can store all the information of incoming light as superluminal quasiparticles like surface plasmon polaritons...and in a funny way do that processing before light returns from the source.Quasiparticles like polaritons can in some cases travel faster than c.
>>524420573Those things are to make the jet more visible on radar schizo
>>524424293Ya, sure thing faggot.That's why the DOD speeds millions (more like Billions) on researching broadband cloaking devices each year.That includes like at the thermal spectrum (infrared). If you can create a non-Euclidian space around the craft using a pattern of Electromagnetic interference...or at least just selectively, destructively interfere with said light, then you have a cloak.
>>524424490YA I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE OFFICIALLY USED FOR YOU GIGANTIC FUCKING DIKE.SEE: >>524424248
>>524424493*light at the thermal spectrum
>the missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't
>>524420966They have enough Epstein papers to camouflage the entire US air fleet.
>>524420573PointlessThe contrail of a craft moving at those speeds would be seen for miles
>>524424628Even with conventional stealth that isn't an issue.
>>524424293same with your post.You are citing things that aren't even a problem for conventional stealth aircraft...how does the F-22 mask it's heat signature.>noiseLol, that's apparently never been an issue either until you brought it up just now. Pretty sure it's hard to calculate (more like impossible) a supersonic aircraft's real time position using only noise.
>>524424092I’m sure this tech would only be on applicable aircraft too. It’s in the testing phase now so whichever aircraft is easiest to retrofit and start prototyping is what I’d imagine they begin with.The future is largely unmanned so I’d imagine them trying to make the tech smaller and fit on a reaper drone. I don’t think the intended aircraft is fighter jets.
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>>524424493if you can do science fiction shit with planes why are you still losing wars to shepperds and yemeni pirates then?it would be a massive waste of money
>>524424293I thought you said Dungeonsiege 2 and that Steve Seagal played it.
>>524421435Dude… cool it with the antisemitism
>>524424993you can cancel effective inertia by spinning a Bose Einstein Condensate...generally speaking. At least that's what I've heard.That being the case, it would lead to drones that can do pretty amazing aerobaticshttps://arxiv.org/pdf/1102.4284
>>524424628Yes I also look at trails minutes after ive been blown up by a missile, good point.
>>524425081Money is a means to an end for the right players. Not an end unto itself.
>>524423817pointing me to your retarded thought process isnt going to make you less retarded
>>524425249>You be sad now! Go away!Hanging around just to say that?Lol, you fuckers are so obvious.
>>524425200Since a BEC shares the same wavefunction across it's entire volume...I always wondered what would happen if instead of physically "Spinning" it, you instead coupled it with Dynamic nuclear orientation or Electron Paramagnetic Resonance
>>524425200>>524425248ah yes cia tic tac drones with heart attack gunsi see
>>524420573>Einstein >time reversal Anyone listening to clif knows this is horseshit.
>>524425442>>524425445I denounce the Babylonian Talmud. Begone, evil spirits. For you are not welcome here.
>>524420573Lunenurg lens is literally just a piece of metal that increases the RCS of an aircraft so other people can't get it's true radar signature or RCS.
>>524424993Reaper drones can already fly high enough that they are practically invisible to the naked eye.
>>524425200I don’t think maneuvering and propulsion are their worries. They’ve been reversing alien tech for decades now. I’m pretty sure they have gravity propulsion working on experimental aircraft.This is more or less testing “allowed” bleeding edge tech. Not the stuff they have stashed for top tier black budget works.
>>524425559Hey faggot, see the following:>>524424248>>524421666
>>524425581Naked eye yes, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s ground tech that’s developed to quickly “spot” drones via optical lenses and camera. Think like an AA telescope.
>>524425630>Alien techEhhhh, just search the archives for FARK...I don't subscribe to the "Alien tech" theories for the most part.
>>524421435They loop a bucket of ice around the tail hitch and cool it right down.
>>524425503>denounce the talmudClif high just said that either today or yesterday how funny.But by far one of the most interesting people I've come across listening to online and, in my own opinion is someone wise & he's willing to share decent occult knowledge.
>>524420573Go back to /k/ you uneducated swine
Just paint a picture of the sky on the bottom of your air craft.
>>524420573Aw sweet a schizobabble Qtard boomer thread
>posts an image of clouds>put two red circles on it>pretend it's an invisible aircraftNice bait
>>524420573>probably
>>524425647You're a retard and your gay spam/troll thread sucks.
>>524420573>F-001it's says FOOL for a reason
>>524420573Do you understand how STUPID this is? There is no reason for there to be optical cloaking for an aircraft. You just need radar and IR stealth because the ranges at which combat occurs is... BEYOND VISUAL RANGE (BVR). Fuck this is stupid.
>>524430529lil nato cuckoid jelly USA is superior
>>524421098>an area of non euclidean space
>>524421206>I'm also sharing links with relevant research.Schizos love posting links to research papers they can't read as if they're citing a court case
>>524421666>We show that by the proper combination of Luneburg lenses in an array form, incident light bypasses the region between junctions of the lenses>>array form [...] between junctions of the lensespic rel from the actual paper which you can access through one of the millions of sci-hub mirrorsthe lenses would have to be many time the size of whatever they are hiding and would have to move with itno one like a lazy schizo OP
>>524421098I had a phase conjugate time reversal mirror on my old VW Karmann Ghia. It was air cooled so we had to use engin oil to cool it and the phase conjugated real hot. It eventually blew the aluminum header so I put in a 2100 pancake motor in it. >>524423381>how is this poweredWith the power of positive thinking.
