Japan was the victim of American aggression
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Bloomp
How did the us torment and corner the japs?
>>524439197oil and blockades
>>524439298Not good enough to start a war unl3ss you really want to use that as an excuse.Japan was invading left and right
>>524435139>and America was the victim of Japanese agressionthis has jew written all over it
>>524435163beer before liquor : never been sickerliquor before beer: you're in the clear
>>524439197Fucking over steel imports to curb their booming car industry.
>>524435163>i am a humorous and good personSounds like a stiff robot to me.
>>524435163How very Palestinian of him
>>524435139>n-nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you have to let me sneak attack your navy and let me rape nanking AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you are committing warcrimes by stopping me!?
>>524435139I don't speak "dishes falling down a flight of stairs" sorry
>we were corneredbro you crossed an ocean to attack a naval fleet in port
>>524435139BASED
>>524439375So was the US
>>524439448Its translated retard.
>>524435139You HAVE to sell us Oil, filthy Gaijin, ok? It's a human right or however the chinaman is vivisected
Roughly true. The Japanese had been snubbed multiple times by European powers prior to that point, and were in desperate need of oil that the USA deliberately embargoed to provoke a war, so they were provoked into war. Nothing's changed since the Spanish-American War, our imperialist overlords in Washington DC manufacture circumstances where we are attacked first in some kind of big cinematic fashion and that gives them the green light to start the war they wanted anyway.America wanted to rule the Pacific, which it now does, and Japan was the main barrier to that, which it no longer was after WWII.
>>524435139it was the jews.
Delusions are fascinating. I wonder how much he really believes that, honestly. He has to know he’s wrong on a subconscious level, but defending grandpa’s honor is more important than facts. Face cultures like Japan, China, India, etc., are all just a little bit dysfunctional because of this. Well. A lot dysfunctional really.
>>524439635Where
In the history “The Glory and the Dream” by William Manchester, he freely admits that American policy was to provoke Japan into attacking the USA by any means necessary, that Pearl Harbor was considered the likely target of a provoked Japan, that racism played a large role in the American policy to provoke Japan, and that Japan intended to alert of the declaration of war before the attack but had inadvertently mistimed it. Funny thing about the Greatest Generation who allegedly saw combat: they didn’t mind telling the truth. Read Studs Terkel books where the combat veterans of the greatest generation freely admitted that US troops during WW II regularly shot prisoners, looted friendly allied countries, and raped women of both allied and enemy countries. Only the rear echelon bastards who wrote the post war history pretended otherwise.
Some say this happened to Germany, too. Poland knew the murders in the polish corridor were pissing of the germans but kept doing whatever they could to dupe Hitler into invading. They wanted Germany to start a war and be swiftly dealt with by a Polish-British-French alliance that looked like the reactionary good guys against "german aggression" and win more land out of the deal and/or reassert Jewish control over the germans. While that didn't work out exactly as planned, Poland wasn't an innocent neutral nation minding their own business before big evil Germany crossed the border. Likewise, the United States wasn't an innocent neutral country minding its own business before 1942. We were deliberately selling weapons to the allies and sanctioning Japan under the guise of acting like an international peacekeeper.
>>524439835>stop invading our ally, China, or we will stop selling you the oil you use to invade China Please explain how this is aggression or how this forced Japan to start a war? Couldn’t Japan have simply stopped warmongering and invading China? Why is not invading China so unthinkable?
I'll fucking do it again
>>524439899William Manchester was a sergeant and never had access to any information that would allow him to admit anything. He didn’t make decisions, he followed orders and that book is mostly his opinions as an amateur historian.
Japan>1895: the Sino-Japanese warwin against China>1905: the Russo-Japanese warwin against Russia>1917: WW1 in the Pacific Oceanwin against Germany>1945: WW2 in the Pacific Oceanlose against America3 wins and 1 lose.It's okay.
>>524440061do what? lose?
>>524440116You're wasting your time. Most of them don't know how hard we fucked the Russian navy.
>>524439991why was it our problem exactly? Who cares what happens between japs and chinks
>>524440216Japan had a complete victory against Russia in 1905.
>>524435139Russia is in the same position today. For decades, NAFO and their tranny vassal states have been encroaching on Russia's borders, from the Asian Pacific through the Middle East into Eastern Europe.Since 2014, they have actively subverted Russian influence in The Ukraine.And now millions of Oinktards need to die because they decided it's a good idea to be useful idiots for NAFO interests for the sake of some phoney promises to one day be in this shite EU or this shite NAFO, when Russia was obviously the better partner.
>>524440579>Russia is in the same position today.good, those dumbass zigger monkeys are going to lose just like japan did lmao.
>>524439835>its okay for a foreign power to sneak attack us if they feel they arent getting enough of our natural resourcesYou guys really are just as oikophobic and cucks as the left.
>>524435139Is Japan in denial about their capacity to fuck shit up? Are they in denial that they did?
America didn’t provoke Japan. Japan was the aggressor, starting with the invasion of China, the Dutch West Indies and by attacking America while at peace with herhttps://youtu.be/bCC--CFKAzY
>>524440896Murica dindu nuffin yo
>>524441032we were sitting theresee>>524439890
>>524440896China is in America now?
>>524435139>december 8thretard
>>524435139The memo that instigated things with Japan was authored by Harry Dexter White who was also a confirmed Soviet spy
>>524439403This. Japan is cooked.
>>524435139If we had helped Germany and Japan finish off the USSR and China there would be no communism today.If we had eliminated the communists here in the 30s, there would be no need for WWll.
I like that Hideki Tojo's niece (daughter?) is still trying to clear his name to this day. She set up a huge foundation and everything to combat the lies told about him.
>>524435139my brain is melted, I read the title and I thought this thread was going to be about her
>>524441698Imagine if the USA sided with the good guy in WW2? I wonder what paradise world we'd be living in now. Think about it, canada wouldnt even exist we'd already be part of the states, no commies in south america, no boarder jumpers... man, it could have been so good.
japan deserved it for 1905
>>524441873*borderI guess there'd be no boarder's either because no commies = no hippy's
>>524440216I know about that because America brokered the peace between Japan and Russia
>>524439635by the 30s we had largely stopped the whole rape and conquest thing
that's equally retarded, the US was in a position to hinder Japan's expansionism and it did so for its own strategic reasons. Is he implying they should have just abandoned the Pacific because Japan wanted them to?
>>524441873>If we had eliminated the communists here in the 30sThat should have said "communists and central bankers"
>>524442179>. Is he implying they should have just abandoned the Pacific because Japan wanted them to?Yes, they're retarded like that
>>524439991The problem wasn’t the embargo, it’s that America guaranteed the European colonies AND implemented an embargo. Japan’s only option was war. American foreign policy had been provoking a war with Japan for a decade before too.However, while America was the aggressor, aggression was warranted: Japan had spent decades attempting to instigate a race war in the US (see: the Black Dragon Society)
>>524439418wine is fine, but whiskey is quicker>>524435139Agreed, we should of let them have all of Asia, why the fuck did we sanction them again>>524439890Philippines for starters after we took it from the Spanish.
>>524442548We didn't take or invade the philippines, you shit head. We won it through battle. Battles that happened decades prior to japan chimping out. Weebs are the most pathetic creatures in existence. You're like indians are too whites. You worship zips but they see you as less than dogshit. Just look at all the weebs you know. Every single one is a dysgenic freak.
>>524442687>We won it through battle.This is why you switched from .38 to .45?
>>524439835Not allowing you access to resources that don't even belong to you is not a provocation to war, idiot. If they couldn't get oil and steel then they should've found a different industry. How entitled are they to think they deserve other people's things?
>>524439860I argued for hours last night with some faggot who said germany wasn't the aggressor in ww1. Some people are fucking delusional.
>>524442306>Japan’s only option was war.Or they could have stayed on their island like a good boy and not invaded European colonies
>>524441873USA is the bad guy you fucking moron. Rome was evil, the catholic church was evil, and the most evil of all was the English who created the bank of england to declare war on global Catholicism.From there sprang america, the united states of usury that uses its military to oppress the world under its lazy ass.
>>524435139It was called the McCollum Memo an eight point strategy by the US to provoke Japan into a first strike allowing the US to enter WWII. FDR enacted every one of those points
>>524442920Those points are like having a gun for home defense it's not your fault if you shoot a robber. Japan should have simply not been a warmongering fuck. How does any of the points listed there justify Japan attacking?
>>524439991History is rarely that simple. As the old Russian proverb goes, "the Jew will tell you what happened to him but not why."The conflict between China and Japan began over the Korean peninsula in the late 19th century. The Korean emperor was a puppet ruler of Qing dynasty China. The people of Korea wanted reform and modernization modeled after the Japanese modernization 50 years prior that transformed Japan into an industrial power. The Chinese wanted Korea to remain under their thumb. This eventually led to the Sino-Japanese war, which Japan won. The terms of the treaty left Japan in control of Korea and Tawain.Next event was the Japanese-Russian war which Japan won. One of the major things Japan got was the Chinese railroad system that was previously built and owned by Russia.Fast forward to WWI and Japan was on the allied side. They declared war on Germany and attacked their colonies in Asia, mostly China. At the treaty of Versallies, the Japanese wound up feeling cheated of their share of the spoils as it was revealed the only thing the allied powers cared about was the creation of the state of Israel with the Balfour declaration.In 1911 a western backed masonic revolution in China ended the Chinese Empire and began the Chinese Republic. The Chinese Republic set about doing what everyone does in that situation, "asserting their historical claims". The same as Russia is doing right now in Ukraine, and Israel is doing in Gaza. The Chinese declared half of the Japanese Empire, Korea and Tawain, to be rightful Chinese clay.In 1931 there was an incident sabotaging the Japanese railroad infrastructure in China, the only thing of value they got from war with Russia, and the Japanese began their attack on China.By 1937 the Japanese were disenchanted with former WWI Allies who not only cheated them of their war spoils but were now backing China taking half their Empire. By 1937 they went for full scale invasion.
>>524442778Putting down uprisings doesn't equal invading, nigger.
>>524442909While im at it, look at the state of the places the usurious english went.The english protestants and jews are the original boohoo holocausters, crying about the spanish and the church, pretending that justified creating central banks and enslaving the world to debt and filling every inch of the earth with africans and pajeets.
>>524440251>if things are far away you have to just have to let them happen Nigger-tier thinking right there.
>>524442920I fail to see how any of those things demand war. What do you think is the just egregious on that list that demanded a response from japan?
>>524443153>uprisings>Invading someone's homeHow FED of you.
>>524439298Now why don't you tell the class why we were withholding oil from them? Oh that's right, because that would destroy the whole "we wuz good boyz!!! We dindu nuffin'" victim narrative the japs and weeaboo faggots like you keep perpetuating.
>>524441873>Imagine if the USA sided with the good guy in WW2?There were no good guys in WW2. Much like a mafia war, just because rival factions are in conflict does not mean one of them is good.
>>524439835Nah, the US let Japland just kind of do whatever they wanted for years until they went full retard in the pacific and SEA. And that was entirely the result of Japan getting bitchslapped by Russia. They stopped focusing on northern expansion doctrine of the IJA after that humiliation and threw their support behind the IJN and pacific expansion, which they knew would rile up America but they figured America was weaker and less willing to go to war than Russia. Japs gambled and lost, simple as that.
>>524443341You mean invading China and every other surrounding Pacific nation was wrong for Japan to do?
>>524443307Then were fighting back against colonial rule. We had every right to be there. It was only a small number that had a problem. Most filipinos welcomed us as being better than the asshole spanish. They still have a soft spot for us today and english is an official language. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>524443081>At the treaty of Versallies, the Japanese wound up feeling cheated of their share of the spoilsThe fuck do you mean cheated of their spoils they got the German pacific colonial empire, what more were they owed?
>nips lost the eternal game of "I'm not touching you" by chimping out>get BTFOed in response>80 years later...>waaaaah we were provokedPretty sure America was always open about the fact we baited you guys into a war.
>>524442909>Seething brown opinion
>>524443517Correct. The Japanese Empire would probably still exist as a major world power today if they didn't decide to act like the niggers of Asia in the 1930s.
the US attacked japan first ages ago for no reason but imperialism, an empire if you can keep it
>>524439197>>524439375 This guy must be a Vancouver chink
Also the nips actually offered up terms of surrender similar to the ones they accepted months before the jews decided to drop nukes on them, making that and the Tokyo firebombing completely unnecessary.
>>524442896They were already in China and the oil was needed for their fleet if they were at war or not, so there was no option. If invading the DEI meant war with America, then they had to declare war on America.
Ultimately, no matter what Japan did, whether they took the bait or not, the United States would have declared war anyway. The USA was desperate to go to war with the Axis powers on behalf of the Jews by any means necessary.If the Japanese didn't take the bait, the US would have just used a false flag attack the same as they did to get into WWI.Pic related, the Lusitania, the sunken American ship that pulled the US into WWI. Notice the hull is blown out, not in. In 1914 it seemed like evidence at the bottom of the ocean was concealed for all time.
>>524435139That isnt what happened but alright
>>524443946How is that a false flag, you moron? The germans still had to fire on the cruise ship to discover it.
>>524443946The Zimmermann telegram was enough justification
>tormented Japan for 20 yearsShould have not surrendered. Now the cult of poop on dick and Saint Floyd rule Japan.
>>524443825No they didn't. They only ever discussed surrender amongst themselves and the military hardliners quashed it. No formal or informal offer of surrender was ever made to the United States prior to us dropping the nukes.
>>524443690You nation filled the world with browns and blacks as slaves to have an easy population to rule over. Thats why you hated the irish and Germans so much, they stood up to you homosexuals in a way these other people you oppress couldnt.Your gay sons husband is probably brown and you imported him too
>>524439197>stop invading China or we will cut oil and steel>no>okay *cuts oil and steel*>REEEEE CURSE YOU AMERICA
>>524435139>Japan was the victim of American aggressionYou know what?We BOTH wanted a shot at the other one.Japan loves war.We love war.Both sides WANTED WW2 because we were missing out on the fight.Let's just let it lie at the fact that both sides are assholes and both sides wanted to beat the shit out of the other side.We just happened to be in the position to win.Japan, you made a damn fine enemy!Hopefully we will make a better ally than it appears we will.
>>524440579>blockading an entire island nation is the same as accepting into your military alliance countries who beg to join your military alliance for protectiongo back, Ivan
>>524443946Retard. Germany literally admitted to sinking the Lusitania at the time. They claimed it was legitimate though because it was being used to carry war materials, thus making it a valid military target. Although the US denied it, decades later the Germans were proven right when an expedition did in fact find the remains of munitions crates in the cargo hold of the Lusitania.
>>524441698Germany was too autistic an instead of just attacking the USSR they went to the west. If Germany just focused on USSR then WW2 would have been west Europe, US, Japan vs USSR and early CCP (actually all of China but CCP as an excuse)
>>524442909PicrelGet out
>>524444514> NatoYeah filling europe with a bunch of Muslim "refugees" you created and then dragging them into a pointless war in the Ukraine is so based.Go kill yourself glow nigger faggot.
>>524435139nobody flies this far to avoid something
The Japanese raped, murdered, tortured, and cannabalized the Flips and Chinks and then over played their hand by battling us they deserved those nukes
>>524443619>The fuck do you mean cheated of their spoils they got the German pacific colonial empire, what more were they owed?What they got is irrelevant to whether they FELT they got what they were owed. It is a historical fact that the Japanese delegation walked out from the treaty of Versailles in protest.The reason they were mad wasn't over ownership of some uninhabited island in the Pacific. They were mad because they felt that after fighting the war, they deserved to be treated as equals and have a seat at the table for the new world order. The treaty rejected their racial equality clause that would have placed Japanese people on an equal legal status with European people. But the big offense was the naval treaty. In order to avoid an arms race the treaty of Versailles placed limits on the size of the navies the signitories could build. The Allies decided to meet their quota by cutting the size of the Japanese navy. Despite being victors of WWI, the Japanese were being told that they were racially inferior and they would be forced to disarm... in other words they were being treated as badly as if they had lost when it came to matters of trade, finance, and global balance of power. They were being treated as though they were a colony, not an equal.You can say they should have been happy with getting a coconut farm in Micronesia, and maybe you are right, but that doesn't change the fact that the Japanese delegation felt they were owed more.
>>524444980Says the guy who slaughtered the natives to build plantations where BBCs plugged him AND his wife.
>>524444980yes. and now they whine and cry and claim they dindu nuffin.>>524445125fuck the indians. also get buck broken, retard.
>>524444980Blacks rape pillage and torture you, yet all you is worship their cocks instead of nuking them. WHATS UP WIT DAT?I guess you have to be non black or Indian to be bomber by AmeriBBCa
>>524445125Every country in existence exterminated natives at one point in time. Especially Canada you fucking jeet street shitter.
>>524444336>They claimed it was legitimate though because it was being used to carry war materials, thus making it a valid military target.You just answered your own question. The US claimed it was an unprovoked act of aggression against a civilian passenger ship. The Germans claimed the ship was being used to carry artillery shells, which it was. You can split hairs over whether it was a flase flag or a green flag, but the fact remains it was an incident the US staged as a justification for war.
>>524445195I have a BBC, you must now worship me protestant jew devil
>>524445259Go shit in the street Mahboob literally the entire world Hates you even more than kikes.
>>524445263> every country exterminated the natives> White natives replaced> NOOOOO NOT LIKE THATGet a load of this gay
>>524445397White protestant american devils are the ones behind slavery and Indian poopgration, cope and seethe satan
>>524445454Youre literally indian. Nothing you can say will be correct, you head bobbeling street shitting dork.
>>524445356>indian trying to muh dikoh no no
>>524441873>Imagine if the USA sided with the good guy in WW2We did
>>524445555Youre a white devil, therefore to pay off your gods interest rates , aka the bank, you must import 12 more billion pajeets good sar.Chop chop whitey, that mortgage wont pay itself
>>524444190be honest, you're a stinky muslim aren't you?
>>524445289>it was an unprovoked act of aggression against a civilian passenger ship.It was.
>>524445766We're the only people that go to heaven you silly little head bobber. If reincarnation is real then God must hate you because being born an Indian has to be the worst fait in the world. I'd rather be born in papua new guinea.
True. Not to mention the innocents genocides by 2 atomic bombs just for fun. The Great Satan is an understatement when talking about jewmerica.
>>524446384Yeah youre the only people that charge interest and call it holy filthy Hebrew Norman scumbag>>524446172How many people have you charged interest? How about instead of calling people Muslims, you get a real job. Like the Germans or Japanese. Fatty
>>524439298EMBARGO, retard. Not an act of war.
>>524439835>oil that the USA deliberately embargoed to provoke a war, so they were provoked into war.This is what Japan simps actually believe. Like refusing to sell a nigger a bottle of henny means he is allowed to stab you to death.
>>524439448yeah, he should have his pants around his ankles, dreadlocks, tattoos all over his body and a gold chain with a dollar sign attached to it draped over his shoulders, then you'll think he's cool, a "real human being" and invite him to fuck your relatives, you gay mulatto american n igger
>>524446811called it. muslims always expose themselves as the third world parasites they are
>>524439375>Japan was invading left and rightyeah, the chinese were just that savage, not even the japs could civilise them
>>524439197By being white anon. They are super jelly lmao
>>524435163>ASDF>Non-Governmental & non-profit organization
>>524446971You cant call other people parasites when your nation is a totally unproductive leech on the rest of the world. Go die in a jungle in Venezuela fighting for isr- freedom.Im sure Jamal pounding your wife and son at home will send a thank you note.
>>524435139I thought the narrative was it was a false flag attack to justify USA joining the war against Japan
>>524439543>dishes falling down a flight of stairs
>>524439991If you make me life hell, take away all my money, and lie about me and ruin any ability to do anything like put fuel in my car which has big hopes and dreams like China and Southeast Asia and want to make me suffer, you started it. That's literally pre WWII Japan. What's more, after messing their life up all of the sudden this antagonist rolls up to their neighborhood and sends 50 punks on on the stoop you adjoining your duplex?Vicious thugs the people who ruined your life sent with barbed wire bats and helmets and they're not saying anything. Hey shit head, pearl harbor had ZERO war ships in 1 year before war broke out and never did until right before the conflict. Asshat, if someone is stockpiling armies in Risk right on your border after treating you like shit and negotiating in bad faith the entire game, they're going to attack. The solution boiled down to the game, literally. Attack + 3 dice vs defense + 2 dice. You are not objective. You are not looking at the situation fairly. You are a piece of shit who would flip the risk board and resort to fists because you make shit up. Nasty dishonest person because you can't get out of good guy vs bad guy mentality because of Marvel and LOTR rotting your brain. I had relatives injured by Japan in WWII and you don't see me harboring logically retarded opinions even though their actions harmed us. Take a step back pal and look at the situation. Dumb retard. You're like the faggots who idolize the Byzantium era and take personal offense when you can't convince people to feel as strongly about it as you do. You're an absolute dip shit and in absence of trolling the only thing that can explain your post is a mental deficiency.
>>524435139they were not forced to attack china in 1937they were not forced to occupy indochinathey were not forced to attack the US, could have just gone straight for DEI without the philippines, would have atleast given themselves a chance, but the moment they got this retarded idea of fighting the US into their heads, it was terminally over
>>524439899It's hard for me to imagine Americans raping people. I can see Russians and Japs doing it but not Americans.
>>524441135Yes, China is part of the Jewish communist oligarchy that also encompasses America
>>524447528The european powers prior to ww1 had central banks and that was the mechanism by which they gave awful loans to developing countries. These loans were given to industrialize, but they were never paid back. So what ended up happening is instead of paying with money, these countries would have to sell their resources and land.Well that was the colonial model for alot of these usurers in europe. WW1 saw europe implode, and america step in with war loans. The american model was to "decolonize" the world, but really it took over the banking system set up during the colonial era, and put itself at the top.Bretton Woods is the obvious example of that, and later the petro dollar. Today the lazy american hebrew usurers are just bullying their "allies" to extort what they can out of them while contributing nothing.
>>524447407>You cant call other people parasitesYes I can, especially when they are third world parasites.
>>524439298>Foreigners actually have a right to our oil
>>524447528Forgot to mention that Germany and Japan had productive economies that cant coexist with the British economic model which is central bank usury.This is also why such a stink was made about communism. Somehow having a productive economy warrants bombs being dropped on you, but stabbing random woman on the streets or flooding countries with pajeets does not.Of course thats because the british american norman hebrews are evil and so is their empire.
>>524439197Tariffs on silk, their only export product which already had low prices due to the great recession. Then an oil embargo.
>>524435139Japan was the first country to propose a bill to abolish racial discrimination at an international conference, but it was rejected by the United States. Japan was an obstacle to American policy.
>>524448112Don't bring up economics you Hebrew devil, thats too difficult for their little minds
>>524448112Why does Japan deserve our trade?
>>524448112n-noooo! you have to trade with me and let me use your oil or ill chimp out and sneak attack your navy!!! ahhhhhhhh dont nuke me n-nooooo
>>524448304you forced it on them i.e commodore perrySchizo foreign policy
>>524448304Ask yourself that question you illiterate american retardo
>>524448054>Germany and Japan had productive economies that cant coexist with the British economic model which is central bank usury.Ah yes the productive economy of looting your neighbors
>>524435139Yes, I know, I studied Japanese history at university.
>>524435139Everyone is the victim of Jewish aggression.
>>524448465That said, it was still a dumb, knee-jerk reaction.
>>524435163>have no likes or dislikes when it comes to foodlying gook.
>>524448433>>524448436Two wrongs don't make a right. Also 1st world Christian nations arguably have the right to dictate policy to 3rd world non-Christian nations.
>YOU PROVOKED ME! THEREFORE IT IS OKAY TO ATTACK YOU!Niggermind way of thinking
>>524448465saaaar
>>524435139Japan attacked Pearl Harbor because:>no oil/steel/rubber>need empire for resources>stuck in China quagmire, refuse to leave>burger sanctions + full oil embargo economy/military dead in months>diplomacy fails hard>plan: blitz Southeast Asia for oil (Dutch Indies etc.)>US Pacific Fleet in the way>preemptive strike to cripple it>hope for quick win, force negotiation>militarists run gov, no backing down>massively underestimate US industry and willpower tldr: cornered resourcelet island goes all-in kamikaze gamble instead of surrendering empire dreams
