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Read up on National Bolshevism and its sister ideology, Strasserism. National Leftism is the future. From the left, we take Socialism without internationalism, from the right we take Nationalism without the capitalism. Socially conservative, ecomnomically progressive. The best of both worlds. Karl Paetel was a visionary and the Strasser bothers were great too. You can't be a nationalist without being a socialist, because Capitalism is international by design and Socialism enables autarchy for your nation. This is a fact.
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>>524435616
Give me a tl;dr on Stasserism.
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>19th century retardation
>in a horizontal epistem
Have you lately checked cross platfrom for the token "socialism"
Zoomers, Millenials and Alpha hate you
and think all socialist are the same
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>>524435616
omfg almost like.. National Socialism!
your commie look alike was purged for good reason
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>>524435616
If Hitler had listened to Strasser, German Industry could have failed to build arms. The idea is first to appease everyone while promoting Nationalism; second, neutralize threats like Bokshevism, and last, when you have power, safety and Nationalism, you implement true Socialism.
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>>524435645
National Socialism but with a genuine ephasis of anti Capitalism and social reform. Giving a voice to the working class without the fetishisation of said class. Favoured regional autonomy and a more revolutionary Socialist, economic rhetoric. But in the context of one nation rather than a worldwide revolution.
>>524435819
You're an absolute retard. National Bolshevism and Strasserism were superior and were actually and primarily Socialist. Never post again and get yourself lobotomized.
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>>524435819
>omfg almost like.. National Socialism!
Not at all. Note "socialist nationalists" always fanboy the USSR.

In reality nationalism is neither left or right, you can be rightwing and anti-nationalist (eg. absolutist France or 19th century Prussia) and you can be leftwing and ultra-nationalist (eg. USSR and North Korea), as well as rightwing and nationalist (WW2 axis, medieval Europe) and leftwing and anti-nationalist (Modern west, pre-revolutionary bolsheviks).
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>>524435991
its a dead spin-off of a very much alive ideology. Everybody knows what a nazi is, nobody cares about strasserism lol. Even lolberts are more relevant
>>524435997
the USSR wasnt nationalistic, it had no concept of a people. Their goal was to expand territory and absorb countries into their multiethnic empire. Kinda like what the catholic churhc wanted to do too .
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>>524436716
>the USSR wasnt nationalistic
lol
>it had no concept of a people
So? Empires rarely do.
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>>524436789
So, and empire isnt a nation. So by definition, not nationalist
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>>524435819
>your commie look alike was purged for good reason
he was purged because Hitler sold out and made his own people slaves to the big industrialists.
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>>524436875
The Roman nation was spread out amongst an Empire consisting of multiple states. Why is this word, "nation", so hard for you?
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>>524436894
The German Industrialists? German. The plan was always long-term. Not an instant seizure once in office m.
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>>524436952
of course a memeflag wouldnt know what a nation is
>>524436894
strasserists would've joined the USSR. Nice patriots you had there
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>>524437053
Youre an actual subhuman. Open a dictionary.
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>>524437053
What's wrong with preventing the most devestating war in human history? You would have had a very german, socialist germany and the ussr over there. It would have rubbed off on most of europe too. Each country its own, each country socialist. Heaven on earth.
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>>524437029
>The German Industrialists? German.
National Socialism was sold as the entire nation working together and workers having rights and not being treated like slave cattle.
Hitler sold his own people out to Industrialists who did not care about the nation but about their profits, the end result was a nightmare situation for workers where their employers could withhold pay and not allow them to leave their job by holding their work papers.
The plan was already ruined when Hitler sold his own cause to the industrialists so he could have the war.
Eitherway the industrialists cucked and could not even bring the supplies needed which led to mid to late war terminal lack of supply everywhere, so even after selling the cause out he ended up nowhere.
Cucking out to loser capitalists will always lead you to defeat.
The USSR did not cuck out to the capitalists and they did just fine with their war supply.
>>524437053
They would not have joined the USSR, they would have probably allied with them, and the Stalin USSR was nationalistic as fuck and was very heavily supportive of russianizing their minorities.
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>>524437138
your meme gangs arent nations. If i call my house a nation it doesnt make it such.
>>524437171
just gotta look at ww2 aftermath and the fate of the eastern side. That was the fate of all europe if it wasnt for Hitler
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>>524437360
>the fate of the eastern side.
Good living standards, good work culture, healthy diets, booming demographics and nearly all ethnically homogenous?

The east of europe only turned to shit in the 80s when the USSR was in freefall due to the leaders realizing they could make more money and have less liability if they just became capitalists and privatized the state assets to their relatives. This only happened because post Stalin they brough the jews back in.
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>>524437320
>would have probably allied with them
and consequently get absorbed or get invaded
> very heavily supportive of russianizing their minorities.
only through language as a unifying glue for the empire, like english became a global language too. They didnt give a shit about actual white russians, since the soviet leaders were all kikes
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>>524437320
Hitler printing his own money did more to farther the direction of Socialism than anything else. And the plan was to slowly nationalize industries, not instantaneously. It was never sold as instantaneous. It's so kiked how you idiots hone in on that as if it's a defeater. What the Nazis did is literally referred to as the "Economic Miracle".
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>>524435616
Sure, just destroy islam, it is globalist to its very core.
Otherwise you're making it clear you're just a disingenious shill.
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>>524437463
the western side had all that and you could actually get wealthy. Yes even the ethically homogenous part. Mass immigration wasnt even a thing until the 00s. A burger gloryfing the soviet shitholes lmao kids these days
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>>524437360
>nooooo, the dictionary is a psyop! You can't go by the dictionary definition of a word!
You're a fucking subhuman, lmao. Probably a kike. Is English even your first language, you dope?
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>>524437532
>destroy islam
One can only dream...
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>>524437474
>and consequently get absorbed or get invaded
Nope they would not get absorbed as the germans were too large of a nation to be absorbed, absorbtion only worked with the small central asian nations that the USSR took over easily.
Later though war would probably be inevitable but once the capitalists had been totally cucked and destroyed it would have been easy clean up for the Germans.
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>>524436716
>Everybody knows what a nazi is, nobody cares about strasserism lol
Give it a new name then, just adopt the principles to your nation.
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>>524437573
stfu memeflag, i bet you think Nation of Islam is a nation too you braindead retard
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>>524437616
A boot on their ass is what the germans could expect under the USSR. After total extermination of most of the young and body abled. You're absolutely deluded
>>524437660
natsocs want nothing to do with your ideology . Not back then and not today.
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>>524437533
>Yes even the ethically homogenous part.
LMAOOOOO AMERICA WAS A KIKED SHITHOLE SINCE THE LATE 1800S.
The censuses of that time were total bullshit as we counted the spics as white.
>the western side had all that and you could actually get wealthy.
No it did not, people were killing themselves with shifts if you actually knew anything about the west during that time or had relatives who lived in the west and in the east you would know this.
As for getting wealthy what does it matter if one jew can be a billionaire when the millions of workers are working double shifts and can barely afford their mortgages and maybe one vacation a year.
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>>524437671
That's right, get angry you violent subhuman. It's what you're known for, after all.
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>>524437741
>A boot on their ass is what the germans could expect under the USSR.
They would not be under the USSR they would be allied with them during ww2 if the strasserites had won, and once the capitalists had been cucked maybe then there would have been a war between the two parties.
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>>524437573
>Is English even your first language
having trouble with flags eh? cared to check mine?
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>>524437818
Dear Subhuman,

People who speak English may live in any country in the world. They might even be using a VPN.

Sincerely,
Your Superior
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>>524437750
Who the fuck is talking about America, we were talking Europe. Western Europe was fine after WW2
> they would be allied with them during ww2
i thought there was no WW2 if they allied?
>once the capitalists had been cucked maybe then there would have been a war between the two parties.
yeah with an end result worse than WW2 for Germany, and you blame hitler for rooting out those commie faggots
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>>524437868
how about you show flag before talking about countries? kike or jeet, which is it?
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>>524437741
Yeah whatever. People will come around to the idea of socialist nationalism when things get bad enough.
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>>524437890
>Western Europe was fine after WW2
it was already fucked by 1960s due to the gastarbeiter in Germany and the flood of nafris in france, you even had the windrush generation in GB.
You just don't know shit outside of your isolated south american shithole so you think these places were heaven due to jew movie propaganda.
>yeah with an end result worse than WW2 for Germany, and you blame hitler for rooting out those commie faggots
No, it would have been a one front war with Germany having enough time to actually build their supplies up instead of being rushed into wars by Hitler and also letting the british leave with their lives at dunkirk due to Hitler being a anglophile.
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>>524437766
kys
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>>524437963
we already have natsoc. Its the known ideology. It has racism , antisemitism, blondes and fancy roman/greek larp, and we make most people seethe. All the things we need today. What do you have?
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>>524438003
ahh yes a unified Europe under the USSR, what a paradise. Then they would've invaded your ass and you would be called Domingo today
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>>524438041
You really are a pathetic animal. I just showed you a definition of the word that fit my usage of it. You counter by showing a different definition. They're both correct you fucking subhuman. That's how a dictionary works.
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>>524438255
no they're not both correct. Either a nation is defined by territory or its not. Guess which definition we use today?
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>>524438297
Holy shit this fucking animal literally doesn't understand how a dictionary works. Lmao
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>>524438297
Idk, how is the word "nation" used today, subhuman?
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>>524438348
No word in the dictionary has contradictory definitions. You're fucking retarded mate
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>>524438423
thats how subhuman americans like you use it. Same with the Nation of Islam retards
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>>524436789
>lol
Nice argument retard. Soviets were internationalists. Look at all the faggot commie revolutions they tried to spring up all across Europe after WW1.
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>>524438441
Apparently "Nation" does, you jewish animal.
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>>524435645
You just rearrange some things so that your average redditor becomes a diehard supporter.
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>>524438209
It would be 100 percent white.
All fit and healthy whites with healthy demographics. Homes, jobs, free education if able and willing, and a healthy life balance guaranteed by the state.
Heaven.
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>>524438508
nobody considers those "Raiders" a nation except your dumb ass
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>>524438634
just like Russia today amirite?? deluded migatard lmao
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>>524435616
>Strasserism
switch it to pure ustaserism, and you got me on board
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>>524438734
Russia today is result of capitalism and neoliberal jewish take over.
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>>524438681
English isn't your 1st language. You're not even White. How are you going to tell me what an English word does and does not mean? How Jewish are you mother fucker, lmao.

I'm done with this thread, you kike.
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>>524438872
now pick literally any other source than the same pic you posted 3 times? all dictionaries agree with my territorial definition. You are the kike thats why you memeflag. Who do you think you're fooling retard?
>>524438816
sure anon, ussr was total paradise it was those evil capitalists which made russia a shithole today! And trump is gonna save america any day too, trust the plan two more weeks
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>>524437741
>natsocs want nothing to do with your ideology
NatSocs are a tiny unimportant part of our societies.
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>>524438816
Russia isn't capitalist, only retards believe this. The state controls well over half the economy.
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>>524439137
and thats why you're grandkid will be called Ngububu!
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>>524439099
>n-no Oxford doesn't count, post any other source!
You shouldn't even be posting here. You're too fucking stupid.
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>>524439473
Here, from the same dictionary as your pic. Someone is lying and by the looks of your pic, it seems to be you.
Also i challenge you to find me a dictionary which states both definitions (with and without territory)
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>>524439473
i also posted Oxford >>524438681
Your cellphone pics look like bullshit to me. Im pasting the entire thing, you're only showing a few lines
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>>524439099
>And trump is gonna save america any day too
No, LMAO trump is a jew puppet.
We have never had an actual president who could make decisions post late 1800s.
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>>524439149
It is.
80 percent of the oligarchs in russia are jewish.
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>>524439473
The english and americans share a language , culture and body of traditions. That means they're the same nation!
t. Your dumbass non-brain
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>>524439825
so whats your fetish for soviet union? im guessing contrarianism for contrarianism sake. If the west is kiked, take a good fucking look at the USSR lmao
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>>524435616
bump
agreed
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>>524439731
>>524439863
I can't imagine you have any friends irl, because you're so fucking annoying you won't admit to being wrong even when I've zoomed in and isolated the evidence and you still won't concede. You're a fucking subhuman.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/nation
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>>524435616
>serb promoting national bolshevism
haven't you suffered enough during the 90s? i'm making an exception if you or your father were smuggling tobacco and fuel throughout the war
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>>524435616
I only like systems that can exclude the Jews completely on account of their Jewishness, Nazism provably accomplished that, so that's the only one I feel confident going forward with. Heil Hitler!
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>>524439918
I just know that without the complete destruction of the capitalist world order life will always revert to this state of faggotry since capitalism erodes all human good.
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>>524440111
>look there is a Taylor Swift fan group calling themselves Nation Taylor
>see you're wrong anyone can start a nation
this is your brain on circumcision i guess. Also from your own link:

>a body of people composed of one or more nationalities usually with its own territory and government
>usually with its own territory and government
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>>524440371
how can memeflags be this stupid? its literally in your own link https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/nation
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>>524440424
Kill yourself kike. What an annoying faggot. You're literally a fucking demon aren't you?
>usually
What does that word mean? Does it mean 100%?
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>>524440526
Seethe harder . Nobody but the dumbest of amerigolems would consider a taylor swift fangroup a nation. You're just trolling at this point
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im a Taylor Swift nationalist now. Heil our queen
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>>524440694
You're gonna kill yourself, aren't you? I see no future for someone like you. How the fuck can you even live with yourself? You are a drain on everyone around you, aren't you?
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>>524438751
>ustaserism
And fetishize bosnian muslims who hate us? Hell no.
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>>524440857
>memeflag got butthurt
anyone can see how dumb you are and hopeless you are, no need to advertise it so hard
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>>524436875
IQ 89 take
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>>524441132
get rekt faggot. 0 arguments as expected
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>>524435991
> more revolutionary Socialist, economic rhetoric

yeah that is cuba, vietnam, laos today, soo economically viable

retarded faggot, you know nothing
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>>524435645
When the aristocracy abdictated the only power left was socialists who couldn't agree on anything. The politically interested people argued their individual shittakes, so the communists, who are dogmatic and hierarchical, started to divide and conquer with ease. When the NSDAP beat back the commies it ended up with all those new members that were indoctrinated into the various blends and flavors of communism that dominated the political discourse for 20 years and needed to have their minds set right. The guy in charge of recruiting the commies into the NSDAP was Strasser, due to him originally being a commie with a printing press. This was so successfull that about 60% of the NSDAP were former commies, including the head of the SA, Röhm. The leadership was obviously anti-communist but the strasserites still wanted to have communism with the label filed off so Röhm used his circle of homosexual officers to conspire for a military coup and turn germany into a communist junta, with Hitler as a powerless figurehead. NSDAP leadership learned of this and violently purged the strasserite leadership a few hours before Röhm could launch his attack, preventing disaster. The rest of the strasserites would then fall in line and gradually move away from their various communist idiocies.

TL:DR: Modern "Strasserites" are just communists trying to subvert natsoc because they can't recruit with their own arguments.
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what happens when white people create a socialist state and then a nigger becomes king of the scientists or whatever and tells everybody to hurl themselves off the nearest bridge
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>>524441582
You can thank western sabotage for the state of those countries.
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>>524435616
> Capitalism is international by design
but you need resources from other nations to built better technologies and better systems for the nation tho
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>>524435616
Either way it goes, left or right wing, both lead to anarchy



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