>almost completely unregulated >devastating when used in numbers>ammunition can be easily acquired/made/reused >brits have natural genetic memory of effectively using bow to win warsHas the solution to fixing the problems the English face been staring at us this entire time?
>>524465732How do you pull an arrow out of a body?
>>524465732>Does not know the new meta....
>>524465732Only a select few were able to use these and have widespread access to them and usually were born into the trade I heard they tended to be swole af too
>>524465732this isn't 1415.and learning how to use it effectively takes years if not a decade.
>>524466350That thing is about $1500.You can buy 2 AKs for that.
>>524466350>being a complete and utter casual >in current yearBruv
>>524466526If my redneck cousin and I can get drunk off our ass and still manage to kill a deer with a recurve bow, some limey fog breather can figure out how to use one.
>>524465732I'm an archer and can put a hefty arrow on a watermelon sized target at 70 yards consistently. Those bows were hard to draw and people got forced to practice with them to be any good at rate of fire. It'd be decades before the average Nigel would be any good and they don't have that time.
>>524465732>british archers in the current year
>>524465732What's the point of bow and arrow in modern times when it will just stick to body armour and does absolutely no damage? You might as well just buy a water pistol since it's cheaper and water is easily sourced.
>>524466433They had constant archery competitions and banned other forms of entertainment that could distract from archery training for the peasantry. They also made it so that peasants were legally required to report to their vicar on Sundays and during holidays for archery training. This is why the French couldn’t just copy the English during the 100 years war.
>>524465732been saying this whole time ain't nothin gonna change for brit fuckers until they let the enemy know they stand for more than just endless talk talk talk and talk
>>524467344>to kill a deer with a recurve bowThose bows are around 30lb if that. The long bows they got from the Mary Rose were 150lb+, no one is pulling that and hitting anything without training.
>>524465732>Brits thoughtfully assess the benefits of bow usage>China bans silver exports to their nation Time to learn Mandarin asap I guess.
>>524465732By English common law, the bows are perfectly legal to own, but watching a documentary on how to use them costs an extra BBC licensing fee.
>>524468067kinda based
>>524465732>>almost completely unregulatedHow can you regulate a string, and a couple sticks? Like honestly.>>524466433This is straight up wrong, brits used to have to learn to shoot a longbow by law as a free man.
>>524466528You can build balista on basis of leaf spring, which you can buy cheaply at car scrap yard.
>>524466433>>524470768It is still technically on the a law that all British males need to train with a bow and arrow regularly. They just don't enforce it or advertise it.Most British are black now so that's probably why they are comfortable being criminals.
>>524470941Cheap scrap cars don't exist here anymore thanks to obama.He made sure kids have to take a lone out to drive a toyota corolla.
>>524465732You need to be jacked to use a longbow and it’s not that easy to use it effectively without training.These Bowmen would use them from childhood and get paid a ton of money by the Crown just to practice and be on standby.
>>524466350That’s it. I’m sick of all this “Masterwork Crossbow” bullshit that’s going on in the d20 system right now. Longbows deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.I should know what I’m talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine longbow in England for 2,400,000 Pounds (that’s about $4,000,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even shoot through slabs of solid steel with my arrows.English bowyers spend years working on a single longbow and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest bows known to mankind.Longbows are thrice as long as European bow and thrice as strong for that matter too. Anything a shortbow can shoot through, a longbow can shoot through better. I’m pretty sure a longbow could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a single arrow.Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering England? That’s right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Bowmen and their longbows of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the longbows first because their killing power was feared and respected.So what am I saying? Longbows are simply the best ranged weapon that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for longbows:(One-Handed Ranged Weapon)1d12 Damage19-20 x4 Crit+2 to hit and damageCounts as Masterwork(Two-Handed Ranged Weapon)2d10 Damage17-20 x4 Crit+5 to hit and damageCounts as MasterworkNow that seems a lot more representative of the firepower of longbows in real life, don’t you think?
>>524471646Not a car. Just spring. You can remove it from van, which stays in scrap yard for spare parts. As there is low demand for leaf springs, then you will be able to get it cheaply.It is still spring steel. If you have access to blacksmithing equipment, you will be able to make your own sword.
>>524465732Finding good yew is no picnic
>>524465974At 400 fps leaving the bow that's not a problem. Aim for the neck
>>524472031I have a piece but I dare not sand it or touch the dust. It's just taking up space, but I don't know what I'm doing
>>524472014It's crazy you think leaf sprigs even exist here now.We don't even have then machines to make them any more.
>>524465732You don't need a longbow to defend yourself. Your ancestors managed just fine with smaller lighter bows and you don't need super strength for it. Making a bow isn't necessarily difficult either. You can make decent bows from elm or maple, better ones from ash or hazel or rowan etc. If you have green wood you don't have to cure it for months, you can dry it carefully by stringing it above a low fire until most of the moisture is gone. You can make bowstring from high quality linen thread, sinew or specialized stuff like dacron and using flemish twist or similar. Arrows can be prepared from shoots or cut from smaller logs etc and straightened with heat. Random bird feathers for fletchings. Arrowheads can be knapped from glass or stone, or cut and filed from smaller metal pieces. Secured with pine pitch glue or regular glue + any small cordage.
>>524472499You remove them from old cars, which are too broken to be used anymore, and are left in scrap yard for spare parts. In scrap yard there comes time, when parts which they did not managed to sell, they sell as scrap and it gets re-smelted in steel plants.At time when that car, van or truck still is in scrap yard, and there still is leaf spring there. You can purchase, for low price. As there is very low demand for those, and most of them got just re-smelted.Basically, for like 20 USD, you can get high quality steel.
>>524467934Archer here, you're not supposed to fight a soldier head to head. The injuns were so good that our army needed faster firing guns. That's where the six shooter came from. I have a 120 pound longbow that can penetrate metal.
>>524466433All English males were forced to train once they were 14, once a week. They always had archers ready.
>>524467808If gay cupid hits you then you catch AIDS
>>524467739Don't pull your bow until you can read the serial number on the drone? Best of luck, we're all fucked.
>>524472927I wish you could understand that we only have junk yards full of 2008 and newer cares now.Things have changed and 80s model care are almost non existent here.It's not really an option anymore.Maybe where you're from you could sell me old golf gti prarts.
It's way easier to cast ammo for a modified air rifle.
>>524467934Arrows and bolts are devastating to modern fibre-based bullet-proof vests. Two reasons: the sharp tip cuts fibres and the mass of the arrow that will have impetus behind it. Against metal plate they are very bad though.
>>524473326We did not had that "cash for clunkers" program here. Also, average age for cars on our roads is 14 years. As result, scrap yards are still popular sources for car spare parts.
>>524473674You have a prime opportunity collect parts and sell them to Americans because there is a total retro fetish here.You could make bank and thank me later.
>>524473770Some months ago, our postal service halted to send parcels to USA, because it was not clear how those tariffs will be implemented. Issue likely implemented by now. Still, deliveries will take a long time. Overall, interesting idea. For someone who is more into cars, might be worth to investigate further.
>>524465732>>5244663501) You dont need a longbow to kill a person, any bow off the shelf with cutting arrows will do the job2) You can hit man sized targets at >50 meters after a few days3) No, nobody out there is wearing body armour4) Don't be stupid, you're not going to kill anyone or pick up archery either
>>524465732>>brits have natural genetic memory of effectively using bow to win warsYou are retarded. Longbows take serious muscle and practice. a modern compound bow can be used by women.Ever seen Palestinians slinging rocks at kikes? They work. Very effective in large numbers. Look up the history.
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>>524465732>>almost completely unregulatedNo they were exclusive to men of Yeoman status or higher. It's what the class of people were even named for.
>>524472499Stop embarassing us. There are countless scrapyards filled with old junkers that definitely still have their leafspring suspension on them.
>>524466350Are you even allowed to have that picture?
>>524474026>Some months ago, our postal service halted to send parcels to USA,I tell you what you send me a latvia woman and an AK and wen test this.
>>524474627Post them you fag.
>>524467739thankfully no one wears medieval body armor anymore so you don’t need higj draw-weight bows.
>>524465732takes years of practice to get any good with it, much longer than firearms. if you were to build up and train an organized force it would not go unnoticed. this isn't fud, more a suggestion to be as decentralized as possible.
>>524474712>Illegal possession of a photo of a weapon>10 years in isocubeUK managed to speedrun being a more dystopian shithole than Canadiastan, and that's impressive.
>>524474960Women cannot be send by postal parcel anymore. And gun laws are very strict here.That thing about postal service, it means that deliveries will take even longer times than it was in 2019 (pre Covid).To find parts in USA internal market could take 4x shorter time. Highly developed delivery network and all that stuff.
>>524465732no idea what you are talking about we early people have NO knowledge of the English long blicky what do do you mean ??????
>>524474990What am I posting? The yellowpage listing for one of countless part-pick junkyards scattered all across the country?Are you too retarded to google search for "pick a part junkyard near me"?Or, just order a leaf spring off amazon. Or from tractor supply.
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>>524465732>longbowUnless you are training to use it from 7 years old, it is useless.
>>524465732Britain is pretty much lost at this point.Trump is considering removal of nukes from Europe since it's obvious they are on a course to become a terrorist Islamic state. I think we are past the point of saving Europe.
>>524474990You are retarded, there are still tons of junkyards, filled with leaf spring vehicles. They arent as cheap as they used to be, they want like 1/2 price on a lot of small stuff.
>>524465974>pull an arrow outYou push it through mate
>>524465732I built a bow using PVC pipe and three fiberglass rods taped and evenly spaced inside it. I used a heat gun to form the ends into curled tips and used paracord for the string. Cost me like $6 to make. I used a luggage weight reader to pull on it to see what the draw weight was and it about 44lbs.More than enough to kill a deer sized object. I got fairly accurate with it at 20yds.This guy is a good place to get started, have fun anons: https://www.youtube.com/@BackyardBowyer
>>524466433>Only a select few were able to use theseNahThey used to conscript the peasants all the time and teach them to shoot at 4 or 5 different pre-determined positions so they could easily rain arrows down at given ranges. It was the medieval version of spray and pray. Most peasants couldn't afford good bows, but lots of them just made ones from greener wood (so it had spring) and then would go cut a new one when it dried out, we did that as kids.
>>524465974You can't, you have to push through the other end and make a hole. But in the case of English Longbows, you are looking at fuckers shooting at you with 160+ pound war bows, which, if you weren't wearing armor, would probably shoot right through you.
>>524466528> That thing is about $1500.Now guess what a longbow costs. Plus 30 arrows with forged tips that penetrate the vests of zogbots.
>>524466633> Let me show you it's features!
>>524465732What exactly would you do with a bow? Bring it to a gun fight? Of course not, you'd get shot like a cosplaying faggot. The best improvised weapon if you don't have guns is fire. Fire is based. Fire invokes primal fear. Flamethrowers > Bows
>>524465732>We wuz Robinhoodthat isn't gonna work when 95% of your population has gimp arms that look like a piece of spaghetti
>>524472499>leaf springs don't existAbsolute stupid fucking faggot. Even niggers know they are by the millions in junk yards EVERYWHERRRE
>>524479151Britain is lost, but it would still be kino to see them try
>>524470941how realistic would it be to have a car mounted ballista that can disable vehicles, I'm imagining a decent size with proper projectiles, like a nigger rigged SABOT basicallyall produced legally with the proper atf forms & taxes paid of course
>>524465732I think catapults (aka slingshots) are an even better choice for this type of conflict. Portable, concealable, easily made from a variety of materials, simple to repair/replace. Can use stones if you run out of ball bearings. Headshots will guarantee a knockout, likely permanent injury or death.
>>524465974Composite arrows. The head breaks off and you reuse the shaft which is held in place by a thick tar glue
>>524471967Longbows suck. The Koreans and mongols made composite bows from horn and sinew that were shorter and nearly as strong. 100+ pound pulls on a bow only 5 feet tip to tip.
>brits have natural genetic memory of effectively using bow to win warsReminder England lost the Hundred Years War bigly and then spent over half a millenium seething and coping and making ten thousand songs, books and movies about that one specific ultimately inconsequential battle they won at Agincourt.
>>524482472IT's a passion project but you're talking thousand year old tech here. It's very realistic in the technical sense.Legally speaking I feel like the ATF will just call it a destructive device at some point, but before that actually occurs, I don't think there ARE any particular rules there; it's not a firearm properly
>>524465732looks nice.When the Mongols attacked Japan, the Japanese longbow had a longer range than the Mongolian bow, so the Mongols were unable to attack the samurai for two months and were unable to build a land base.Finally the typhoon Kamikaze came and they were sunk into the sea.
>>524467934Broadhead arrows penetrate kevlar, field tip arrows penetrate ceramic, and no one wears steel anymore. If you have reason to believe burglars will wear a particular type of armor you can be mentally prepared to defend yourself using the proper hobby equipment.
>>524467739dont forget a real target is also moving
>>524483195>field tip arrows penetrate ceramicI'm all for civilians arming themselves but that sounds fucking impossible, show me.
>>524465732We trained from childhood to use it by law though. It isn’t something you can just pick up and use effectively.
>>524473235Lol
>>524465732Would be so kino to have British pigs face a hail of razor sharp broadhead arrows. Like James Cameron Avatar kino.
>>524466633>IMG_3075.gifThat thing is automatic and has a fast rate of fire (for a bow) and this impresses the fuck out of normies, but each of those little darts it fires doesn't have much velocity behind it, and you'd never defeated an armored knight with that as the darts would just ping ineffectively off the knight's armor.As such, the Longbow is by far the superior weapon. Maybe a very slow rate of fire, but it hits hard.
>>524482297>ywn shoot your long bow in a street war barefoot only wearing gym shorts.WHY FUCKING LIVE?!?!
>>524483145>Finally the typhoon Kamikaze came and they were sunk into the seaThis typhoon really btfo them If they never tried to invade Japan and instead focused on maintaining rule of china and elsewhere, their reign would have lasted longer. God wanted Japan to prosper and for the mongols to be vanquished
I’ll have your leg!
>>524467808Fuck off he’s super skilled.
>>524465732Compound (American) bows are better in every way.
>>524472499Any modern vehicle that carries heavy loads will still use leaf springs
>>524483813and tricycles are way more stable for poor widdew wetards
>>524483603Arrows can't do shit against plate armor. Arrows have a lot of drag and lose energy rapidly. You basically have to be point blank to get through with a longbow. Even if they do manage to piece armor, knights had on gambesons underneath. There's a reason knights didn't bring shields to a battlefield.
>>524483603>knights >in current year I will make use of the next best thing against these brigands then
>>524484047Mallet goes bonk
>>524465974Sensually
>>524466526Anyone can learn to hit a target at close range with a traditional bow more than capable of overpenetrating the human body within six months. Anyone can do the same with a crossbow in a tenth the time.
>>524484166full body armor is gonna make a comeback
>>524468703>Those bows are around 30lb if that. The long bows they got from the Mary Rose were 150lb+Hunting Recurves range all the way up to seventy pounds commonly. Longbows as defined as the very high draw self warbows used in medieval times could reach above 150 certainly but 130-140 was common and lower draw bows still out of the range of conventional bows (100-120) were common as well.But this all proves the point that men could arm themselves easily, not detracts from it.
>>524471757Weight Training and nutrition has come a long way. Any normal man should be able to shoot #100 pounds within a year of starting consistent training.
>>524467934Do you think these two are wearing solid plates?Do you think they're even wearing Kevlar (which arrows go straight through)?How do you think they'd react to getting hit with five arrows at once, calmly?
>>524478646If fucking Shadiversity that fat retard only took a year or two to pass 100# you can too.
>>524482083You do know you outnumber the Blinkies or Boobies or Jimmies or whatever you faggots call those niggers in yellow that rape you if you don't insert coins into your television every 12 hours.
>>524482472The bitch of every ballista project is getting efficiency out of them, i.e. a thousand hobbyists have put together these huge ten thousand pound draw ballistas but they end up getting unbelievably low efficiency and results that only look impressive until you realize they should be five or ten times better.That saidModern reverse draw compound designs can break the 500fps speed limit, so in the most theoretical sense a "ballista scale" modern crossbow could conceivably kill a car. Ten or twenty times the total size of a 500+ crossbow would probably still be mountable on a car. Joerg sprave's strongest airgun spearthrowers didn't come close to 500fps and one of them was able to put a pinprick hole through a quarter inch of hardened steel, so it's definitely plausible, just not practical.
>>524483290Yes but it would probably be ten bowmen from an ambush not one man in a field.
>>524466528> You can buy 2 AKs for that.lol wut?iirc when they made "Lord of War" they went ahead and bought real decommissioned AK's in bulk and sold later at a loss because replicas were more expensive.The black market price for an old AK is somewhere between 50-100 USD in oversupplied conflict regions
>>524483955We're talking about civilians arming themselves for their own defense at the absolute limits of desperation and you just can't help yourself but seethe that America exists.
>>524482472Ballistas suck, no matter how exceptionally modern they are made. But a solid steel re-bar fired at relatively close range directly into an engine compartment would very likely incapacitate the car within minutes, because you'd likely rupture part of the radiator fluid system or oil circulation or warp something else to the point of not working smoothly.
>>524465732Modern compounds are better in every way.
>>524467808Is that the bow and arrownguynfrom YouTube? I watch his short videos on history and wars and stuff.
>>524472942It could make a nice little dent and maybe stick tip in and nothing more
>>524485006I plan on getting into the archery hobby so I can use the bow and arrow and go hunting. When the zombie apocalypse hits, I can just go into the woods and shoot a boar with an arrow and then carve the pig up for food.
>>524471967>had lots of money>wastes it thinking about a cludgy rpg+wizards "plugin" for a war game. Hey bro, i would do some dumb stuff if I had 2-5 million to burn, complaining about D&D bring a bad simulation would be one of them.However, defending a specific poorly modeled weapon in the already poorly modeled projectile danger, in the poorly modeled combat for the official troon dragon fucking simulation would not be how I would go about it.I'm sorry but you are being added to my list of evidence that I use to claim that capital is being destructively allocated in the modern world.
>>524485642>you just can't help yourself but seetheIn just 20 minutes you made 9 posts of rolling fuming rage. Fucking LOL
