I've never personally found any argument against suicide that really convinces me. The more philosophy I read, the more many common objections seem based on instinct or emotion rather than careful reasoning. When people call suicide "murder" or "unnatural" they often ignore that a right to life should also include the right to give it up, and that nature itself isn't a moral authority. If it were, we wouldn't use medicine to prevent or delay natural deaths. The claim that suicide is selfish also feels very one-sided. It can just as easily be seen as selfish to expect someone to keep living with unbearable mental or physical suffering simply so others don't have to feel grief. None of us chose to be born, and being stuck in a life that has become intolerable is a tragedy, not a moral failure. I think society has a strong optimism bias that makes people assume life is better than it really is for everyone. When someone experiences life mainly as a heavy burden, ending their life can be a rational way to take back control over something they never chose.
you'll just get reincarnated and sent back here. there is no escape except by dint of your own efforts and self-improvement.
>>524480230And how do you know?
>>524480153DO IT FAGGOT
>>524480153the only "control" anyone has over death is choosing the time/place/mannerthis angers God, who wants you to suffer through some arbitrary period just because something somethingfuck that
>>524480153Most people cant just kill themselves they got shit to do
>>524480153>killing others is le bad! Okay goy!>never foght back goy it’s le bad!>KILLING YOURSELF IS LE GOOD!You are contrary to nature, you’re an abomination. You should have your tongue ripped out and your eyes put out. And then You should be tied to the back of a pickup truck and dragged down the highway.
>>524480153The argument is that suicidal thoughts are temporary. Stop ruminating on it, and tomorrow you won't have those thoughts.
>>524480277Reincarnation makes sense really. Whats more plausible you die and its just nothing? Or you die and whatever eyes your seeing through changes? You probably come back as a billion bugs and ahit before you get something with a real lifespan and even then its probably a Chipmunk or something.
>>524480153Croatia why is your flag lower budget now>The more philosophy I readYou still didn't figure out that 95% of philosophy is based on "if X is false I will be sad, therefore X is true" or what?
>OP Croatia flag 2 pbtidyou've done this already
>>524480153Ok so do it then
>>524480723>bored bourgeois cattle too materially well off to care about abrahimst monotheism steal the infinite cycle of reincarnation from jeetoid east indian religions because it's comforting compared to just dying and it all being over>ignore the part where by those religions infinite lives are infinite suffering and the whole point is to achieve extinction in life and dissolve into nothingness after death, leaving no embers behind once your flame goes out so that no new one can start
>>524480153Suicide is the end result of having made yourself a false idol, and you worship yourself as God. You are frustrated by the fact that you believe you are God but you don't have God-like powers to manifest your will. You are unable to create abundance (water into wine) or raise the dead. You are proceeding through life confused why you are not receiving what your selfish ego believes that you deserve, and are angered by your inability to manifest it.Suicide is the last act of the self-worshipping God. In his vain attempt to act as God by ending life.
>>524480723>ahhh noooo I can't just not exist. Ahhhh. I'm probably too important! Right? RIGHT! I won't die the universe needs me. It wouldn't make any sense if I just like disappeared or something. It's inconceivable. >>524480153Eh, you'll get to spend infinite time being dead. No need to rush into it.
>>524480277i died and went to the other side...thanks for asking
>>524480626Depression doesn’t come and go however, it stays. Every day feels either extremely painful or completely empty with no real relief in between.
I'd argue for you to explore the world but one can't afford that anymore so I'm wallowing in my self despair too now
>>524482382>i died and went to the other side
>>524480153All I know is that if I had killed my self on my last attempt, I would have never known the wonderful thing that is my baby boy and that's the worst thing I can presently imagine.
>>524482382I had a near-fatal accident and experienced absolutely nothing, just my brain shutting down for a while then coming back lol
>>524482594Many people are undesirable and will never marry or have kids
OP disabled why listen
>>524482874or, they (themselves) did not desire *to* marry or have offspring
>>524480153it's mostly just that normies like being alive and any serious reflection they do on it is painful to them because then they like it lessjust try not to bother them
>>524480153>argument against suicide
>>524482929RIP
>>524482874What the fuck does that have to do with my experience, memeflag?
