Serious replies only.Im tired on shitting on this country and its people. Serbia was supposed to create a civilization in the Balkans, yet it failed miserably. Lets just start with the fact that going off by the most recent 2022 population census that there are about roughly 650000 men aged 18-35. That is not good, yet we have no other structure besides that one, and in all those 650K count in gyppos, Hungarians, Bosniaks and other minorities, which throws us at about roughly 500K young serbian men aged 18-35, this is incredibly concerning. There are some options, but they require immense mind power to bring about.For one, my favorite plan is to bring more white people from falling EU countries to Serbia via free properties and such while only condition being that they learn serbian language. It will raise the trust bar in our low trust society and will genuinely bring quality, but to be done it needs strong organization and propaganda to bring people here who want to escape their ZOG occupied countries in the West.Other option is pushing the measly 650K able men and women each (thats around 1.3 million) to their full potential to reach a small but stable and safe society/country with solidified borders. Yes, that does mean giving up on Kosovo (but keeping the cultural enclaves). Kosovo Myth is not healthy because it just fuels martyrdom and victim complex spirit which makes us like niggers. What are your thoughts on this?
>>524492280Stopping the Russian dick sucking is a good start
>>524492280bombings!
>>524492280>Serbia was supposed to create a civilization in the Balkans What civilization my man? Do you see any civilization here?
>>524492573>Do you see any civilization here?No i dont because its never happened yet Danube was one of Rome`s great frontiers. Are Triballi that stupid that they couldnt into civilization in comparison to Germanics, Greeks, Britons, Russians and Latins?
>>524492280>For one, my favorite plan is to bring more white people from falling EU countries to Serbia via free properties and such while only condition being that they learn serbian language.Best you can do is jeets. Look they're even doing the three finger thing. They've been trained good in the art of the Serb.
>>524492668Jeets are low trust, i want to create a high trust white society here.
>>524492280Balkan Union, but decentralized unlike the EU/USSR/late Yugoslavia.It's the only way to try and keep outsiders from running the show.
>>524492280white people don’t wanna go to serbia though
>>524492280REMOVE KEBAB
>>524492696serbia is very low trust society because lot of serbians like picrel have turk, gypsy and other oriental genetics. we need strict eugenics and to exterminate at minimum 20% of "serbs" for this nation to advance
>>524492280Condemn all types and elements of organized crime.
We can start by deturkifying you.
>>524492280It's literally just a matter of waiting regarding Kosovo, islam's tolerability in Europe is rapidly evaporating.
>>524492874Please come oh great Britons and bleach our women. God bless you!
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>>524492280Move all Serbs to India and replace them with Croats
>>524492280ubij se, cigane
>>524493138You know very well that every sane Serb wishes his country was more whiter, but we must pretend that swarthy neighbours walking among us are equal people. I might be anti social precisely because of this, i cant deal with low trust swarthy people.
>>524493190Дa Бoг дa ти Дaнaц јeбo жeнy.
>>524492814Exactly, it's too much of a 3rd world shithole.And we don't consider Serbs white no matter how much they like to pretend they're anything but subhuman Slavs.
>>524492280you go back to Ukraine and start anew
>>524492280>Genuinely how do we fix Serbia?By giving back kosovo to albania
>>524492759That won't happen for 3 reasons:1.too much division and historic griviances: the first moment a power collapse happens to any if the countries, the rest will find opportunity to attack and loot it, possibly with the blessings and aid of any glownigger organisation from any foreign power.2.too much dependency and weakness on all the balkan states: you don't any true heavy industry or nuclear weapons and even on soft power and influence your are lacking as an area plus your leaders of any branch of power (religious, military, political, economic, ect.) is either a puppet,a traitor, an useful idiot or soon to be a dead man. See kapodistrias or for your case bulgaranon, that professor that the kgb niggers killed with poison though an umbrella (yes that happened)3.lack of will or faith: even the before mentioned conditions can be ignored or fought if you the population with a proper will or faith, but that is not the current balkan population. In ww2 the greek youth despite being in equal if not worse conditions, endured and fought the pastaniggers, the anglokikes, the retard Soviets and the eternal german with more will. There was this concept of not olny dying but suffering for the patrida or orthodoxy or for the family. Can you tell the same mentality that your ancestors had in ww1 trenches fighting the antant exist today? Or even the serbs that endured the nafo bombings far more than any other nation, have the same loyalty to anything as current age?Wheter is boomers and their autoimmune stupidity or the infection of doomer mentality, the curent teen/young man won't run for their nation or religion. For family perhaps but that is too slowly being attack by kike globohomo propaganda.So yeah, right now we are too fragmented to be nation tier (let alone balkan union) standard.Sorry for the blackpill
>>524492280We must unite with all other Balkan countries into Yugoslavia 3.0, third time's the charm. Yes, it's the only way.
>>524493992>Yes, it's the only way.I would rather shoot myself than live through that. Why not just call ourselves Triballia or Illyria or not Byzantium.
>>524492280>For one, my favorite plan is to bring more white people from falling EU countries to Serbia via free properties and such while only condition being that they learn serbian language.This could work but ditch the Serbian language requirement. Those men should be teaching English in your country and helping integrate Serbia into the global community. It's a global world now. Serbia could hardly hold it's own against regional powers like the Ottomans or Bulgarians or Greeks or Russians. Now you have to contend with continent sized civilizations like USA/Anglosphere, Russo-sphere, and China-sphere. You have to decide which of those will provide you with the most benefit and become a vassal state of that civilizationYou can keep your customs and whatnot but don't expect foreigners to adopt them wholeheartedly
>>524492280>civilization>Balkans
>>524494621>You can keep your customs and whatnot but don't expect foreigners to adopt them wholeheartedlyJust the language, i never mentioned the customs. Language is the least of the things you could do.
If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.Rejoice and thank God for what you have.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50t-8B0v9CI&list=RD50t-8B0v9CI
>>524496118>Rejoice and thank God for what you have.For the sake of the joke, he might as well might have made me a pajeet or a nigger straight because im quasi one already by being a Serb. On the other note, why dont Serbia and Romania unite into one country, that would be based.
>>524492814Lol more japs wanna go to Serbia than cumskins to your incel island.
>>524492280Yugoslavia was your only chance. Fuck Kohl for recognizing Croatia and Slovenia so early on. Tbh a democratized Yugoslavia with the right for every republic to secede removed would’ve been the best for both Europe and SERbia. Also bc a democratized Yugoslavia would’ve been the perfect model for the EU to reorganize aftER.
>>524492280I'd adjust criminal code for women with sentences longer than 9 months to become surrogates.Also start hiring foreign women to be surrogates.Note that eggs cannot be from surrogates so they cannot claim those children. Both eggs and seed must be from ethnic Serbs. Also foreign surrogates cannot be given citizenship.Also investment into artificial wombs, it's a high risk high reward but alas.One problem that might arise is a generation of fatherless and motherless children that might be prone to homosexuality and criminality or drug abuse, but it would be better than extinction or ethnic replacement like in western world.
>>524498781Oј Кoчић Пeтpe мyдpa глaвo!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HqpVa2i28g
>>524492759>>524493992>>524498683last thing we need is making non Serbs equal so they can sabotage any decision making processif there are any non Serbs within Serbian state they must be excluded from any governance so no voting no official positions
>>524492280What are we going to do once all good men from the West move to ex-Yu and ex-USSR countries and the West and Russia become caliphates? Muzzies won't be able to survive European winters and will go back to raiding and us normal people will be left in a very bad position.
>>524492280The same way we fix Bulgaria: >We can't. Balkans is cursed. It is as it is.This is my serious answer.
>>524499030Im starting to hate Bulgarians, you niggas are all blackpilled af on 4cucks, what is wrong with you? Take a look at Romanians, they can be jolly from time to time.
The problem is that serbians are really dumb. Not as dumb as albanians or middle easterners but nonetheless way dumber than western europeans. There is nothing you can do to fix this.
>>524494621fuck no, knowledge of foreign language is a major reason people are leaving and why western decadent ideas are penetrating the areawe need isolation not integration
>>524499014Western Europe and Russia are both Islamic hellholes in the long run. East Europeans will need to fortify or better yet, conquer the fallen huwite nations and replace their invaders with our own, but that's unlikely because even though we're not nearly as mentally ill as western huwites are, we're not nearly as strong as we should be to do that either. I don't think Europe will be recognizable two centuries from now.>>524499090Can you blame him? He lives in Bulgaria. And why aren't you depressed? Serbia is quite the shithole.
>>524499090You have a jolly neighbor and a grumpy one, so what?Good luck making Serbia great again, Nole.
>>524499178Absolutely true and applies to balkanimals in general. Croatia is less balkanimal, but you can still see the dumbfuckery, particularly in the south.
>>524499253>And why aren't you depressed?Because i want to do something about this cursed existence of God making me a Serb. Its ironic and hurts, i sometimes feel a stranger to my nation and people, yet i want to see them be like great countries and great men.
>>524492280We have no nukes, or sea access, so we cant really fix or change the system. The moment we do, as things stand now, we would be isolated NK tier, so our only hope is to wait for the next big happening/world war, so that everyone else would be too busy with their own problems to care what or how are we re organizing ourselves.
>>524492280>Serious replies onlyKill all serbians and serbia is fixed.Good fucking riddance to all ballen niggers
>>524499360How old are you first of all? I had grand ideas and identity with the nation when I was young too, but I grew out of it. Focus on yourself. That doesn't mean you should walk over people, but treat the nation as a side worry. It was never meant for plebs to be so politically active, but the elites. That our elites are sell-outs no one has the balls to depose is just a death sentence of our civilization that we have no choice but to suffer.
>>524499384Dude, nothing has changed since Domanovic and Knezevic, its been more than 120 years. What are we waiting for? How does no Serb know how to start a business, make a patent, create a brand, invent a device, discover something, create art?? Are we literal early hominids??
>>524499444Checked. I agree but everyone should die because this whole world is deeply flawed. Good news though, burger. Everyone does indeed die. This helps me cope.
>>524492280ask elon for some his billions
>>524492280>how do we fix Serbia?Serbia is diseased, rotten to the core. There's no saving it. You need to wipe the slate clean. Burn it down!
>>524499347At least croats have human personalities
>>524499456im 23 my nigga. Age doesnt matter, although i understand the case of larping idealist 16 year olds, but Balkans is generally filled with unenthusiastic, mentally deficient young men, lets be fair. They cant compare to western young men and their intelect.
>>524499544Can have*And mostly do I guess? I'm not socialmaxxed so I'm not sure what to think, but the evidence suggests that Croats are mostly human.>>524499550>23Greenhorn. You'll change still.>>524499550>Balkans is generally filled with unenthusiastic, mentally deficient young men, lets be fair. They cant compare to western young men and their intelect.Correct but don't overestimate westoids either. Look at their countries. Yes, still better than Serbia for most part, but imagine losing London or Paris to brown animals. The average white is also dumb cattle, though it's mostly the picrel issue.
>>524499642>Correct but don't overestimate westoids either. Look at their countries. Yes, still better than Serbia for most part, but imagine losing London or Paris to brown animals. The average white is also dumb cattle, though it's mostly the picrel issue.You are offering me a brown biomass city vs empty deserted city, what makes one better than the other?>Greenhorn. You'll change still.I stopped being a classic serbian nationalist long time ago, its just sometimes i have this kind of nostalgia and injection of hopium that it wasnt all that bleak, but Domanovic is being proven right day by day.
>>524499550>Age doesnt matterIt does as you will find out later in your life. Meanwhile keep living according to your codex! Wish you all the best, operational Belgrade metro as well
>>524499737Empty deserted city all the way. You haven't thought this true if you have any indecisiveness about this issue.>its just sometimes i have this kind of nostalgia and injection of hopium that it wasnt all that bleakIdiots outfuck (and breed) the smart people. Even with modern pressure on high education for a living wage, idiots still outfuck the rest. Takes an idiot to get into a lifelong loan just to get married anyway, so it's a systemic issue as well. The bright side to this is that idiots are cannon-fodder and more commonly right-wing (if they have sufficient testosterone), and we'll need a lot of these in the coming times, but don't expect prosperity and high culture, certainly not in the Balkans.
>>524499539ARMSTRONG!
>>524499456of course you need to look for yourself and expect from others to do the same, and on this mutual acknowledgement you should build a community, a collective of individuals that serves the individualsI mean, how are you suppose to build a community with jeets or other foreigners, you can't and you definitely can't be a loner, this is why are a degree of ethnic nationalism is needed even though you think only for yourselfhere you could drive through abandoned villages and could not think that is something beneficial for you
>>524499550>They cant compare to western young men and their intelectwhat are you talking about? westerners are all neutered and passive, a fringe is resistant but most likely reclusive since they know they cannot resist the western apparatus and cannot change their societylook at the catalog and the spam "gen z doesn't have sex", "gen z lives with parents", "gen z doesn't have a job"
>>524500373>you can't and you definitely can't be a loner,You can, but it's not conducive to a healthy civilization. I'm mostly a loner and life's good. We have too many things to do now for me to waste time talking to shitheads or wagecucking all week.>this is why are a degree of ethnic nationalism is needed even though you think only for yourselfI didn't say anything against ethnic nationalism, but you can't outvote the brown immigration. No one voted for them to invade us in the first place, yet they're here. Know why? Because as I said, it's all in the elite's hands. Democracy is just a trick to make you think your opinion matters. Complete waste of time to even think about who you'll vote for.>here you could drive through abandoned villagesEverywhere. Urbanization is inevitable in this age.
>>524500588>look at the catalog and the spam "gen z doesn't have sex", "gen z lives with parents", "gen z doesn't have a job"This is more true in the Balkans and South Europe in general than North Europe. Balkans are probably way more incel than westoid countries are.
>>524500588>what are you talking about?They are smarter and more intelligent than us, they grasp ideas and they set them, we dont, we just look at them and copy it. Monkey see monkey do, because it is ridiculed in our societies when we try to be ourselves and faustian.
>>524500093Russian cum, son. It hardens in response to any thinking process.
>>524500681
It's hopeless
>>524492280>>524492573>>524492668>>524499030wrong, you learn latin and we wuz like we did, you can always join romania and we wuz romans like we doyou don't have to create a civilization from scratchjust steal another one
>>524500705lol what, they are the most guilable idiots there are, look at their countries and what they let happen to themat least ours are forced to be part of the system because of lack of pay, since our countries have been destroyed and kept as vassals
My best guess for how you could improve Serbias prospects would be to start construction of multiple nuclear power plants and start exporting energy like France does, I remember you guys lifted the ban on nuclear construction last year so it seems that’s already the path your leaders may have chosen. But, other potential ways of unfucking your country would probably be finding some European import and speccing your future investments into creating industry around local production and underbidding foreign nations on the idea that shorter transport of finished goods would lead to a cheaper product. Europe imports a lot of organic solvents or plastics which are ideas. Another, more polluting idea, is reopening your antimony mines— you serbfags used to sell a ton of it but couldn’t help yourselves from poisoning the land. If your leaders could reopen the mines carefully and gain the ability to process the ore to a good quality then a single finished ton of ore goes for 40k USD with every major nation needing it for battery/arms production
>>524503536>minesCheck Novo Brdo, a city from medieval times.
>>524492280Well, if there was no chimpout in the 90s we could've been heaven in Europe.
>>524501541making the mother of all bukake here, Jackcan't fret over every drop of Russian cum
>>524492395This would be the first step towards a civilized society.
>>524503536both Serbia and Bosnia have lithium deposits, we could start refining lithium and be an alternative to south America, Australia or Chinawe could even start producing lithium batteries though it might not be viable if China develops solid state batteries and patents it
>>524503680Google tells me that the novo brdo mine is mostly lead/zinc with some silver, with most antimony being in the west of Serbia at Stolice/Zajaca. Personally I think the best option is nuclear because you could finance Gen IV LFR’s which would be cheaper to operate for you since you have local production of lead and bismuth
>>524492395>Stopping the Russian dick sucking is a good start
>>524504169Lithium is definitely a good idea to mine, you could refine and export it to France/Netherlands for battery production. The issue with battery production though is finding a company like Honda or CATL being willing to invest in the region— you certainly could due to weaker currencies keeping wages down compared to say Germany for example, but modern battery production is high input cost for low profit margin. Balkan economy at this point is better off going for resource extraction then refining in my opinion, especially with them not being in the EU which could make higher cost products harder to compete with cost-wise once tariffs are included. Google says China gets tariffed ~33% to export batteries into the EU so it’d probably be less than that but still it’s a low-margin market
>>524492280Unironically your country should invade Kosovo and Bosnia. Think about it, Europe is completely stunned with Ukraine and America is preparing for China. You could probably get Russian support in this endeavor, making it easier. It's a lightning in a bottle though, in a few years the war in Ukraine will end and Serbia will be doomed.
>>524492395ironic coming from your subhuman country, stop gargling Jewish sperm Taras
>>524504299nuclear would be good for aluminium production and other metals that require electrolysis for extraction, for export I'm not so sure how viable it is since neighboring states don't have energy intensive industry and anything further will result in transmission losses, though blackmailing neighbors into shutting down coal and gas power plants and to import nuclear made power for the sake of "green policies" might make some profit>>524504691nah, mining and refinement without production is not viable, we already mine and produce aluminium and it's not that profitable
>>524504729Probably not, balkans may have fucked their economies in the post-commie era for the most part, but currently they’re getting some of the best GDP growth in Europe right now ~2.5-4% while Germany and England have stagnated. They already tried to redraw their borders and failed, doing it again will just lose all their gains. Best ending for balknigs is niche economy building, their chance for having a rounded economy was died when Tito drew his last breath
>>524505270Ah I see, that’s too bad for the mining idea. Transmission loss is an issue too you’re correct, but Serbia is already an energy importer so this would invariably still be an economic benefit— Serbia could reach further markets with some HVDC but this would be a cost-intensive project that would only pay off in our children’s lives
i will save all servian women from poverty with my big croat cock
>>524504169Or, how about this, we finally stop talking about centuries, the cross, the Turks or whatever the fuck there is, we DON'T mind lithium to destroy our nature for the electrobots and live in peace off our nature and people.
>>524505897mine*
>>524492280is it suitable for a white englishman to flee to
>>524505897we already export lumber to EU and grain to China, yet it's not good enough, just listen to the farmers, lumber on the other hand is filled with corruption and theft and there is no furniture or other wood industry, like sume srpske works on a deficit and has to take loans, the only forestry in the world that cannot turn a profit
>>524506635well that's our internal problem, it's especially egregious in the Serb parts, they don't give a single fuck and are deforesting everything while lining their own pockets, so this is why I said that we'll be able to develop anything only once people stop talking about national mythology, going centuries into the past and looking through catacombs. No Serb is ever gonna stop this theft until they get a politician who puts a stop to it. The Bosniaks have a harder time stealing because Croats need a slice of the stolen pie too and there's the international factor.
>>524506635>>524506802muslims belong in the desert to farm camels. your opinions are invalid.
>>524507053As irony would have it, it was you yellow-teeth bongs and your ancestors who decided to thread deserts and conquer sand tribes kek
>>524507089zutt
>>524505276>Probably not, balkans may have fucked their economies in the post-commie era for the most part, but currently they’re getting some of the best GDP growth in Europe right now ~2.5-4%))))))
>>524499030This, you fix the situation by getting the fuck out of this place and never thinking about it again. You won't ever have a good life here unless you become a criminal, it really is as simple as that. Not now, not in 200 years, not in 1000 years.This applies to all Balkan countries too. We live in hell, no alliance or union will save us, the only release we can hope for is a massive nuke to turn us into a puff of smoke. Now this place is filled with brownoids just like everywhere else, but we never had a non-African living standard and even the most migrant-ridden shitholes in the west are still better off than we are. Even african niggers are doing better because they don't have the self-awareness to realize that their lives are shit, meanwhile we are literally a bike ride away from civilized countries and when we look across the border it's almost insulting to see all the things they can have and we can't, because this place is filled with half-retarded subhuman criminals who have made crime the only viable option if you want to live with any human dignity.
>>524507467>>524499030at least you can study and work abroad across the entirety of the EU and then some
>>524507467When I heard our population went down from 4.5 mil to 3.8 and the mass importation of south asian apes had started I was bewildered and wondering why until I realized that I myself was a part of the reason. Had a phase for about half a year where I thought I would go back and be a +1 to our dying excuse for a country before realizing that even if I went back I'd just be another tax revenue drone and even if we all went back, married and had 5 kids per family they'd just find another excuse to empty mumbai all over us anyways. If it's brown down there and brown up here I might as well stay where life is better.
>>524506802>deforestingmeh, it's not that bad considering srpska had a net positive forest area growth since '90ies since companies like Incel stopped working, they probably found bitches and stopped fucking birches lol> we'll be able to develop anything only once people stop talking about national mythologynah, we must stay segregated and divided, it's what keeps us alive, if we'd get along we'd get infinity jeets in 2016, if we'd get along it would render all our institutions uselessall in all, we are not Europe, we cannot have civic nationalism
>>524507667Sure, but it was hardly affordable in my prime years and I didn't want to bankrupt my parents.
can't wait to leave this shithole
>>524507667>2001: ~4.5 million inhabitants>2011: ~4.5 million inhabitants>2013: EU membership>2021: ~3.7 million inhabitantsThe numbers speak for themselves. Also whet this anon >>524507947 said. That's a rich people thing.>>524507781Unironically this. You're saying that nobody needed all those Jeets in 2021 or before, but then in 2022 suddenly we really really really needed hundreds of thousands of them? Okay retard, lmao. "Who will deliver our food??????????" bro we got Glovo 5 fucking years ago, who delivered your slop before 2019 you retarded piece of shit?You made the right call, imagine paying the highest taxes in Europe so that the cunt government could build a new church in fucking Bosnia while replacing you with Jeets who will work for 1/3rd of your wage.
>>524492280Declare war on Ukraine, no pussy footing cop out SMO nonsense
>>524508117If you go to Bosnia or Serbia or Bulgaristan somehow food still somehow gets delivered without having to be handled by unwashed hindu dindus, crazy how that works. I was told by several people back home that all the work that used to be done by locals or serbs or bosnians is now done by packs of jeets who are almost entirely useless with supervision and actively ruinous without a wrangler. Germany had almost a century to try to integrate its browns and it still isn't the world's greatest success, Scrotia is trying to absorb a foreign contingent that is 25% of its original population in the span of one decade. Complete insanity.
>>524508382I forgot to mention the draft that starts in January, which the new Croats are magically immune to.Including the Bosnian ones, who are the biggest and most croatian Croats to ever croat.And to make up for their immunity our draft will be for ages 18-55. :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDWhen the place is completely empty of Croats and run by Jeets, it will probably be less shit than it is under HDZ mafia.
>>524492280I like Serbia and Serbians are one of the 5 nations I never disrespect on the internet.
>>524508818>picUnironically not my problem therefore I don't give a fuck.
>>524500681>59% of Croats never left the zadrugaI kneel croatGODS
>>524509482>salary 1100 euros (except in Zagreb because that includes every CEO and politician)>rent 700 euros>bills 120 eurosDamn I wonder why.
>>524508117>That's a rich people thing.Absolutely. Studying abroad is not for everyone. I don't regret it as I never actually wanted to live in another country and besides I was not that ambitious. I guess this makes me 100% Balkan. Hate it here but I'm perfectly aware that this is my home and I won't like it better in another place.
>>524508625Honestly up to the first year of the usraine happening I would've been dumb enough to go back and die for the cuntry if anything had happened but once I saw how it goes I grew very sour on it, the idea that I'd go voluntarily end up on a war gore drone webm compilation while whores, cowards and the politically connected live it up abroad is going to be a no from me. Plus whatever war europe gets involved in will be its last white people fighting brown hordes abroad to fight for the rights and safety of brown hordes at home, I'm just not bleeding out in a ditch for a system that hates me and wants me replaced, taxed into poverty and ultimately killed.
>>524508382Don't feel happy about the food in Bulgaria, most of it is total and utter trash. I'm talking about quality, it sucks. Overpriced as well.
>>524510086A lot of people are like that, but I don't really feel any connection to this place. Wherever I went outside of the Balkans it felt better. People are more normal, everything is more relaxed and shit actually works. Maybe this is more of an ex-yu thing since people here are notoriously angry and hostile, don't know about Bulgaria.>>524510120>up to the first year of the usraine happeningYou mean back in 2014, or 2022 when shit really really hit the fan? Either way, yeah, I agree with everything you said. Not even "defend your home" is true, since you literally don't own shit. Even if the house is in your name, they can take it whenever they want if they want. I know several people who lived in their own house for decades and then one day found out that the government overtook ownership of the property like a year or two ago without notifying the people actually living there and believing they own it. We own nothing and we aren't happy, Klaus Schwab lied to us.
What's actually wrong with serbia? What would a successful serbia look like? What's blocking that from happening? Why don't you go start a business like a restaurant, is it regulation that's a barrier to people taking charge of their own life?
>>524493173>Move all Serbs to India and replace them with CroatsKek.
>>524510502People are extremely stubborn and they gossip all tie time except for Sofia, because it's 'the big city' and people are too busy for gossip and they don't really know their neighbours.Angry and aggressive - not so much as it used to be. But still we are ruled by greed and stupidity. It's like a jungle on the road and jungle in the parliament as well. Survival of the strongest ape.I can't imagine Yugoslavia being worse than our communism and post-communism. We are being ruled politically and economically by the moronic heirs of the former ruling class before 1989.
>>524511046>We are being ruled politically and economically by the moronic heirs of the former ruling class before 1989Guess what, we are too, just like Serbs. Literally just the same corrupt former commies who changed their uniforms in 1991 and became patriotic democrats. Or their bastard spawn, if they died.We often joke here saying something like "thank God for Bulgaria or we would be the worst by every single metric, and not just 50% of them" whenever some new stats drop.Usually our politicians say "yes but we are only second to last?????". If we are rock bottom, they compare us to non-EU shitholes to try and spin it. Romanians and Hungarians used to be down here with us too, but now it's just us and you.
>>524492280The only answer for the orthodog dogfuckers
>>524508818Well well well
>>524511706Get this jew-fucking catholic Turk out of here. If he is our equivalent of Hitler then we really deserve to be nuked off the map forever.
>>524508117Yeah, but being able to go and study/work aboard opens up a market of 300 million people, instead of being stuck in a market of 3-4 million. I'm not saying it's great, but Croatia is one of the countries that did it better than anyone else. The problem are the corrupt politicians of course, but you have those regardless of the time, empire or union you're in because it's the Balkans. Between living in a corrupt Bosnia or Serbia and living in a corrupt Croatia, everyone will always say Croatia because you can go work in Switzerland within 3 weeks and live in a country with no litter, decent laws, direct democracy through a referendum on various things(doesn't even matter if you can't vote in it, at least it's a joy to be in a place that has it) and so on.
>>524492836>exterminate at minimum 20% of "serbs"What's the number of Bosnian Serbs in Serbia? You should beging with that. As far as I recall, a Bosnian Serb runs your country and he is unbeatable.
>>524511046Yugo communist was probably the best one out of them all in Europe, but post-Yugo is full of corrupt former commies larping as nationalists, priests and so on. They all replaced the red star with a cross by midnight the day the country ended.
>>524512035Switzerland is notoriously difficult to get into, even with an insider there. Slovenia is where it's at. It's an ultra-realistic Westoid country simulator running on Balkan OS. Also their language is easy to learn so you have a shot at being something better than a street sweeper.
>>524511624>>524512145Guess what, I'm not surprised. Same story different country.>now it's just us and youA very special club.
>>524492280>Genuinely how do we fix Serbia?Just seal your boarders from any mutts. Give up on the idea of a "greater Serbia" and concentrate on your selves. The EU will never allow you to become a regional military power again. Just remember Russia doesn't give 1 fuck about you so don't think they'll come to your rescue. last maybe try and get along with your neighbors in the region instead of trying to conquer them
>>524512663>last maybe try and get along with your neighbors in the region instead of trying to conquer themThis man has never heard of the Balkans before in his entire life. Guess what nigger, there's a shitstorm brewing here at this very moment and we're getting ready for war. What you said will simply not happen, because someone will always chimp out.
>>524512035It sucks that so many people left the country, not that BiH and Serbia are doing any better but still. At least now, with much higher population mobility and Croatia being never closer to the German level of development, people that left are much more likely to return back. Unlike in the past, when moving meant you're not returning. It's visible that emigration is cooling off and immigration is increasing. >>524507781Immigration of Jeets was a long time coming, as back as around 2014 (maybe even before) when entrepreneurs and their organisations such as HUP and HGK really started to lobby for importation of non Europeans to Croatia. Even before effects of mass emigration took place. Until in 2019 the government finally caved in and liberalized immigration, from one of the most restrictive to non Europeans to one of the most lax, unfortunately. It is becoming more and more restrictive, luckily, but not enough.
>>524512840>we're getting ready for warNah. Who will you war against when everyone except Serbia is in NATO and Bosnia is a NATO protectorate? Serbia is buying weapons in the Billions from Israel, the Bosnian Serbs are spending millions on having Israel lobby for them in the US. All other regional countries are already under kike influence and the Trump admin recently passed a special motion for sanctions against anyone who tries to undermine the Dayton peace deal in preparation for the gas pipeline that's supposed to run through Bosnia.
>>524512883Don't worry, we're about to get a flood of 100% pure Croats from south American favelas. I'm sure Joao Tyrone Kovač will be thrilled to be back in his homeland after 200 years, thanks to our government just caring about Croats so damn much.>>524513097Same thing like the 90s but played in a roundabout way so that NATO doesn't have to get involved and we get ground up all alone, calling it now.
>>524513235Croats in Argentina and Chile have pretty good socioeconomic status, and their numbers are very small still. And I wouldn't berate them like that, they are much better than any almost every non Euro immigrant, and better than some Euros as well. Some can also move from USA, Canada and Australia. Not that I except them to move back here, but each individual is valuable, unless they're so old that they're about to die. Most Croats will back from Germany, Austria and especially from Ireland and Sweden, which is already happening.
>>524492280I love Serbiat. Rus
>>524513528They move back here usually when they retire. There are still way more people going abroad than coming back. And there is an enormous amount of Jeets coming in still.
>>524492280This is what we get when non Serbs and Serbs outside of Serbia rule over Serbia for the past 100 years
embrace your inner kang and finally conquer all countries in your 5000 km radiusit is your destiny
>>524513764Number of Croats in Sweden and Ireland is decreasing, and especially in Ireland most people that moved there were very young. And why do you think that mostly retiree's are retuning? Number of students (high and grades school) in 2015/2016 school year: 489.1902025/2026: 444.500Goes in line with reduced birth rates and some small net negative immigration. Number of births: Rođeni 17: 36.556Rođeni 18: 36.945Rođeni 19: 36.135Number of first graders: Prvašići. 2023/24: 35.700Prvašići 2024/25: 35.250Where's the big decrease?
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>>524514388Stop noticing please. It contradicts my narrative and defetism. Thanks
>>524514388>Where's the big decrease?Right here. Nice try, HDZnigger.
>thread about Serbia but rvats make it about rvatska
>>524515004Read our posts and look into your future, you are 15 years behind us and we are 90 years behind the rest of the EU. This will be you in 2040.
>>524514974>HDZniggerNo need for insults.Half of that second decrease can be attributed to natural decrease. And second half to emigration obviously, but it is improving in the last 5-6 years (for ethnic Croats). Denying that would be denying Croatian figures as well as figures of the host countries. Germany has reported in 2024 and first half of 25 a decrease of Croats. Croatian figures still report in 2024 a net outflow to Germany, but much lower than ever before. Don't know for 2025 but we will know soon enough.
>>524515004conquer them already>>524514974>lemme just put overall population chart to counter his last 3 years argumentbut fr now serb is right. we shouldnt make this about Croatiaon unrelated note, i met qt bosniak girl and i am trying to breed her and turn her and our future spawn into ustašawish me luck bros
>>524515004So it's still about Serbia?
>>524516215>Hrvatska nije Balkan>to liceBiraj jedno.
>>524517211>10/10 would by icecream from him
I think God is sending me a sign...
>>524517610YES!Go volunteer to war in Ukraine (please wear red shirt or something, to be easy recognised!)
>>524517782calm down my slovakian xister control your hormones
>>524499030Bulgarians are based melancholic blackpillers while serbtards refuse to face reality, that's our main difference >>524499178Most of us younger people are okay, but we've always had problematic 30% of the population, absolute retards who ruin everything for the rest of us.
>>524517610"Z"a pobedu ("for victory" for all of you gay boys)
>>524492280You should join Germany again and learn German
>>524492280Send them back to Turkey, and populate the area with Whites (Croats).
My dad says that serbs are croats that mixed with jews. I think he is right. Makes sense.
My dad says that croats are serbs that mixed with jews. I think he is right. Makes sense.
>>524519812>>524519854My dad says jews are croats/serbs that mixed with serbs/croats. Makes sense.
my rabbi says serbs are jews
>>524519812>>524520667>>524519854My jews are dad croats/serbs mixed with sense. Makes croats/serbs
>>524520753My uncle says Serbs are Hyperboreans mixed with Atlanteans. I think he is right. Makes sense.
My dad says that he could beat up all your dads.
>>524521739we cant handle big bosnian cock
>>524492280We lost Kosovo which is our sacred land, we might as well cease to exist.
>>524521739My dad said the same. Both are right.
>>524492836>serbians like picrel have turk, gypsy and other oriental geneticsFuck me but during Yugoslavia Serbs didn't look like that. idk what happened to kids, my guess is interbreeding with so called "bosnian serbs" or something.All the commie politicians back in the day looked normal.
Whats the diff between Croats and Serbs language is the exact same
>>524525863The Croatian standard language is made up and literally nobody talks like that. It's basically identical to Serbian with negligible differences.In practice Croatian is actually 3 languages packed into 1 and called "dialects" for political reasons. The one in the east can be compared to Serbian, the northern one is closer to Slovene, and the southern one has its own thing going on. When not deliberately watered down they are barely mutually intelligible if you have only had contact with one of them.Croats might seethe about this, though I don't know why, as no self-respecting linguist without a political agenda considers the three to be the same language.TLDR official language same, spoken language clusterfuck
>>524506802>national mythologyWe need to have a healthy national mythology. If the Western right wingers can pride themselves with Rome, Ancient Greece, Conqueistadors, Beowulf, King Arthur, Odin, Zeus etc, we should get our act together aswell and have healthy mythology and pride aswell, but that is difficult because we havent produced art, science, ideologies, belief systems, philosophy etc.And no, Tesla and Pupin dont count, its beating a dead horse at this point.
>>524507973You will bring the shithole with yourself to the white man over there. God why are all of you so fucking reatrded. You arent different from other subhumansAs>>524507467 pointed out. We just have self awareness unlike niggers, but we are essentially the same. Go to Germany as a Balkaner, make Germany Balkans, goodbye.
>>524512840>Guess what nigger, there's a shitstorm brewing here at this very moment and we're getting ready for war. Who is going to fight it?
>>524526404Southern one is serbian+latin hybrid. There is nothing wrong with it, its just that you want it to exist as croatian language while i feel like an idiot understanding you word for word and if i say we speak serbian you get mad, so thats the reason people say "da pričamo naški".Narod koji se zovi Našili što pričaju naški.
>>524527229Not me, man. I'm fucking tired of this shit. I thought I was too old for the draft and then they announce that unless you're in your late 50s or older you're going to the army.Our media also compares our army gear and numbers to Serbia all the time and the government just keeps pushing propaganda and keeping people on the edge, and it's only getting worse.I'm sure they will make it happen, at this point all of my effort is focused on avoiding it, however and whenever it starts.>>524527492I won't go into that, because I haven't really gone into its history. I'm from the northern part and I've been in situations where I asked someone some random thing as I normally would at home, and they answered me in English, asked me what country I am from, or asked me to repeat the question in English. More often they realized that I'm from here and asked me to explain in standardized Croatian. There is also a standardized kajkavian language, I have some books in it. It's more similar to Slovene than it is to Croatian, but still far from the former and very far from the latter. The same thing happened to me with Serbs, by the way, though the ones that I did hang out with a lot just learned it gradually from exposure so with time I didn't have to put on that ћиpилицa accent for them anymore.
>>524527946There is no cirilica accent lol. There is ijekavica and ekavica, both are used with cyrillic. Im from Lika by ancestry so i speak in ijekavica sometimes.>I'm sure they will make it happen, at this point all of my effort is focused on avoiding it, however and whenever it starts.They wont because they cant, statistics are working against them. The war wouldnt last one fucking day. Serbia has around 500K capable men and Croatia even less, there is no war with those numbers unless we are gonna have medieval 100 years war type of poking with swords and 2 casualties per day due to an accidental misfire.
>>524527946I seriously doubt a war between Croats and Serbs will start anytime soon. And even if it does, the war will happen regardless of whether or not we bought fancy new equipment. And then still, it is much better to have new and competent equipment for deterrence, or to be better prepared for war.
>>524528269>There is no cirilica accentI was making a joke bro. I use ekavica in normal speech so it was easier for me to switch to a "Serbian" accent is what I meant. Both standard Croatian and standard Serbian feel equally unnatural but that one coincidental similarity was a sweet shortcut for many words.>>524528269>>524528573>They wont because they cantI wouldn't count on it, relying on pure numbers is not really advisable here. Thinking in terms of international economics, we're fucked.It's going to be an intentional meatgrinder like Ukraine for the sole purpose of making someone money.They said the same things in the 90s, it's a nothingburger, they don't have the resources, blah blah, and look how that turned out.Not talking out of my ass either, I have a zogbot friend who did say that we are indeed preparing for war when I shared my suspicions with him. Either way, it's not looking good at all, bros.
>>524528814Well, if it does happen. I would much rather sit inside a Leopard 2a8 than a M-84a4, or inside a bradley m2a2 over M80a, with fire support provided by a Ceasar instead of... well we currently don't have an equivalent so I'm just gonna say towed artillery.
>>524526970I don't disagree, but you know everyone misuses it 24/7. I just wish we had less grifters in top positions. Emperor Constantine was born in present-day Serbia. WW1 started in Bosnia. We have mountains named after Slavic pagan Gods and didn't rename anything while turning into monotheists, which speaks of our nature of being able to reconcile the past and present. I think this speaks of us being able to have a healthy pride in the past, while moving on. Realistically speaking, Bosnia and Serbia could do amazing things. Just the fact that Bosnia is one of a few ethnocentric countries in Europe, providing an entry point for investments from the Muslim world, the Catholic world and the Orthodox one, alongside the West and East overall, could be our biggest attribute. Serbia can host the entire third world for investments thanks to the Non-alligned movement and that past. There's a lot of incredible stuff in our pasts.
>>524529182It's actually good that you're purchasing European weaponry, even though it might one day turn me into a collateral I guess, fucking hell there's something bad in it for us even when its a good thing.
im comfy desuwe just need better honest leader to keep us out of happenings and neutral, thats allVučić peder is doing opposite, selling his ass and selling country with shady vilage deals Then we ban EU faggots and their lgbt pozzed globohomo and chill Serbia #1 then ten places ..everyone else we could be Belarus but more open if we wanted idgf about the world
>>524528814>>524529182Im surrendering Vojvodina single handedly. Im not willing to lose my white life by another white man.
>>524529487>providing an entry point for investments from the Muslim worldYou know Bosniaks had an opportunity to show what Islam could be under white people, but muh raycism is le bad.
>>524492280>For one, my favorite plan is to bring more white people from falling EU countries to Serbia via free properties and such while only condition being that they learn serbian language.yea bro, there will be def a lot of white people who would greatly go to Serbia, let alone the whole balkan...
>>524530068We never stood a chance because a corrupt elite got set up after the war that lined its own pockets.
>>524529182If it does happen, I'd much rather sit in south America or at least Switzerland, to be completely honest. Maybe if I had some stake in this country, or a valid cause to fight for, a good ideology, good politics... But as it stands now, I don't, and I doubt I ever will.But then again, even if I did, a house can be rebuilt, a new car can be bought, but nobody will reassemble my head and reattach it to my shoulders, so there you go.And looking at people like Plenki, Ursula, Juncker or any other politician doesn't exactly promise a good future worth fighting for either. 80% of them are retarded, 10% are pure evil, and 10% are both evil and retarded.>>524529950Unironically based take. We have bigger problems swamping ALL of us, than the guy on the other side of the river. It's not you that filled up the continent with savages and it's not you that siphons our money, no? We settled our score with Serbia long ago, more calls for blood is idiotic. Unless, you know, it's people who should be hunted down and sent to trial, putting it lightly. Like president Labello over there.
>>524492395This is why piggers suck it until they choke
>>524530115i dont want western degenerate "whites" anywhere near me as much as i dont want albanians near me they are annoying just the same
>>524492280hang you kleptocrats, elect the new ones, hang em too. fixed.
>>524530289projecting much?
>>524530289At least Albanians can make you cheap pastry that a Frenchie would call le pastrieaux and charge 10x. Good for reassembling yourself after a night out, but if you get meat don't ask for its origins.
>>524529950>another white manGet on with times.
>>524530534no, ive spent too much time on their webs and ive seen what makes them clap>>524530586exactly i dont want those paws anywhere near me or my food Aca Musliu can go back to his homeland Solving these jew stars in captchas is so anoying btw
>>524492280You unironically need to just get out and start doing shit. Create a group of people, recruit people with skills, assets, manpower, have a common set of beliefs. Create networks, parallel societies, collectives. Pool resources and collect tithes for future expansion. Once you've gained a foothold, start steering politicians towards your desired outcome or win seats in the government that you can use to propagate your beliefs. Recruit people from opposing parties and turn them into 5th columnists which fragment them from the inside. More importantly than anything, give people a vision of a better future. Destroy the sacred cows, relics of the past, be different from what came before.
>>524492280Your country is small and irrelevant you'll be extinct in another 2 generations
>>524531031solution is isolationism like we form closed homogenic society thats racist and cold to outsiders thats the way forward gated community maxing also yes kill all commie boomer leftovers
>>524531475Every example of Isolationism in history has shown the same pattern: stagnation, decline, and regression. On the other hand, the free travel of people, information and capital has boosted nations from the middle ages to the space age. Having 20 million people living in your country instead of 6 million like means nothing if their quality of life is at the bottom, since what you're trying to improve is your and their quality of life.
>>524531833>6 millionIts a glorified retirement home, why do people keep overlooking this fact. We dont even have young capital in form of third worlders.
>>524531833do you know whats funnyi have this fantasy of dismembering albanians into body parts bit by bit and burning not just vilages but entire cities and then i remember that Aca šiptar is our generalissimus and all magic of it goes away what a cockblocker pussy lips 2m faggot is its unbeliveable >has boosted nationswe dont need gee dee piii to go up its all smoke and mirrors anywayquality of life comes from society you build up and foreigners destroy that harmony thats why Balkan triangle is fucked because someone came from all sides all the time Iceland is wonderfull and theres just 300k of then
>>524531933>We dont even have young capital in form of third worlders.>we dont have enough glovo food delivery jeets Has it ever crossed your mind that you are absolute retard peтapдy peтapдиpaни?
>>524532163>Iceland is wonderfull and theres just 300k of thenAnd I suppose their GDP and HDI is not correlated. And their exports amount to half of their GDP. In other words, economy, taxes and jobs.
>>524532307I am stating that even in worst case scenario we arent able to have young human capital. Of course i prefer European young human capital over jeets.
>>524492280get rid of the serbs
>>524532460they are too small pop to draw conclusions but yes, they work just fine on their pop cap and closed society if Iceland would import million germans or americans or anyone else for eg. they would turn to shit overnight>>524532484no, line doesnt have to go up all the time we dont need billion new workers or jobs, just existing ones to be better regulated and payed and thats entirely possible with less corruption
>>524532163Hold your erotica fantasies and impotent rage to yourself, shkije. It's not about GDP, it's about living a life that has more to it than cornbread and potatoes. It's about having more than 1.4 children and not having to worry about tomorrow's rent. Or comparing your life to your tata & mama's and seeing how they were able to do more with less. Or not having to wait at the hospital's bench for hours because the doctor is still at the kafana, just for him to tell you to visit his private clinic across the street. By all means if this system is working for you, keep at it, but for the vast majority of your country's youth, it's not.
>>524532942>shkijegoyim but for albanians, i always learn something new.>>524532163Dont act like a pakistani/indian keyboard warrior.
>>524532824>no, line doesnt have to go up all the time We need above replacement birth rate from white people here and they need to breed extrodinary minds.
>>524532824I understand and agree about Iceland. But there's one thing that's bothering me, not just here but also in some other threads. When we talk about populations and birth rates, why do many think we're thinking about "exponential" (do they even know what that means) or "infinite" growth? Why not a population that is only slightly decreasing or increasing and in between? To me it just seems like ridiculous and disingenuous argument. In case of Serbia, wouldn't it be in your interest to gradually attract back the Serbs and their families that moved from Serbia in the last few decades? A possible (but not given due to negative natural growth) population increase would be beneficial not just for your economy but also ethnic stability?
>>524492280>my favorite plan is to bring more white people from falling EU countries to SerbiaThere are none, they only exist in this meme website, everyone thats worth a lick of value owns a car in the EU, IRL. Thus they don´t even interact with niggers/arabs/gyppos.>via free propertiesmabye if they were free as in FREE, not free if XYZ condition is done, free with obligations.>they learn serbian languageworthless meme language.>ZOG occupied countries in the West.https://youtu.be/iG3srA1j42I
>>524533629https://youtu.be/iG3srA1j42I?t=125
>>524533120for a 23yro your are very stupid desu have you ever been beaten in your life, genuine question ? >>524533192diaspora Serbs get used to different lifethey only bring back trouble thinking they figured it out all just because they made some money while rest of us are dumbSerbia doesnt need population growth it needs population quality growthwhy would i care for more crowding in Belgrade ? I would care for existing numbers to decrease (go back home) and for people to be betterIf we have growth of montenigger hillbilies all the time for example, what use is it ? More ijekavština ? more tribal mentality ? more gi di pi ? skilled worker earns 10x more than non qualified amigo that Glovo suicides through Belgrade streetsThere, thats your Gi dii piii growth right there
>>524533902Its called hopium.
>>524492395This
>>524533902>Serbia doesnt need population growth it needs population quality growthThats what i said.
>>524534001well you dont get it from mass migration of anyone and anything thats what jews would like you to believe always do opposite of what jew says Serbia ethnic, homogenous, religious piety and educated is what we need even if there are 1M left of us good night and stay in school
>>524534372>Serbia ethnic, homogenous, religious piety and educated is what we need even if there are 1M left of usRespectfully disagree with the last part. You will need some numbers to maintain relevance, stability and rigidness from outside influence and economic demand to drive investments, jobs, production, drive development etc. You can have 7 million people and have at least 3/4 of them as high value citizens. It's not hard, even in hypothetical situations. Good night
>>524492280Shouldnt have antagonized the Germans at every turn. Turkey is doing ok, you could send your youth there for an education.>>524492395Worked so well for you.
>>524492280>lists all the countries issues>only solution is immigration.
>>524492280Keep the CRS out of your country. It will be very decisive in the future.
>>524493138unironically the whole world could me improved in just two generation if germanics and north-east asians export their sperm to their more swarthy neighbors, imagine a middle east where everyone is atleast 75% germanic or a south east asia where everyone is like 75% japanese or korean
>>524492280By deporting you and other faggots like u out of here.
