JUST IN - Israeli Defense Ministry deploys the "Iron Beam," a high-powered laser interception system
>>524503930i don't see lasers working in a desert where there's sand eveywhere
>>524503930... and the power goes out.
We did it in 86.Try to keep up?
>>524503930Fake and gay
>>524503930Jewish space lasers
>>524504004This, why not just use a giant magnifying glass in space to cook your enemies? https://m.youtube.com/watch/HbSavG9qfeg
Would be way cooler if they called it a force field rather than iron dome or iron this or that.
>>524504004Those things have their own generators you retarded leftard antisemite
>>524503930This is only for small FPV drones and such. It won't intercept ballistic missiles.
>>524504205Damn it just vaporized that weirdRaaaad
>>524504205>>524504351Weiner not weirdVaporized thar weiner
>>524503999Jewish laser scientists have probably tested it before.
>>524503930>installs mirror finish on warheadIt won't stop the heat but it will stop the videos lol.
>>524504004
>>524504004Idgi
>>524503930Why is everything iron with these people? Iron is gay and weak.
>>524504283If they design a new tank and install 4 of those on it they can finally get rid of the ugly cope cages.
>>524503930Jewish Space Lasers?
>>524504513https://youtu.be/UBVlL0FNbSE
>>524503930goyim gonna get lazored.basedTOTAL PALINIGGER DEATH
>>524503930That acient greek nigga who used mirrors to burn ships was way ahead of his time.
>>524504283its enough for hamas and shitzbolla rockets. Iran can tongee my anusalso, i heared you roachoids are mad about somaliland, mad we are breaking your neo ottoman ambitions?
>>524503930iron beam, like the rod i gave your mom during her iron dome performance
>>524503930This is what I voted for. MIGA!
>>524504205Because it will act as solar sail and slowly crash on earth
>>524503930Developed in partnership with the U.S.So, expensive as fuck, breaks down after first use, cannot hit the broad side of the barn and we'll soon see a red triangle over them in the Hamas videos?
>>524503930Jews are so intelligent and handsome
>>524503930our tax dollars at work
>>524508966also:>doesn't work when it's cloudy
>>524503930lasers are useless tech bro wankery
>>524503930what if they drop literal shit on the lens
Didn't China already make this?
>>524503930Cool. Lasers are kino. The new Trump class will have a laser weapon too. Next step is DEWs that are in low earth orbit. Orbital strikes like in command and conque.
>>524503930oh look another jewish super weapon thread
>>524509738https://youtu.be/03KRU7z9rBw
>>524509663>>524509738>>524509630all of these videos have been debunked.it's all played in reverse.what you're seeing here are the missiles getting intercepted instead
>people itt pretending that lasers aren't super fucking useful ADIf the technology matures it will make attacking really fucking hard in future.It's way more accurate. Missiles will probably just start adding ablative shields though
>>524510029>>524510081reversed videosstop the propaganda
>>524509938Lasers are electrical. You only get out what you out in, and at a loss. Start calculating the necessary watts to actually damage things with light and youll quickly see that the power needed is monstrous. The technology will never "mature" out of the laws of thermodynamics. Tesla'a microwave lasers are a neat idea because they cannuse that energy more.efficiantky but the reason we dont use them is because they don't worm.
>>524510561As I understand it the problem is that Iran used cheap missiles to overpower the Iron Domes, which allowed the more hightech missiles to get through. Iron Domes ammo is also very expensive and in limited supply, which might be why the Israelis ended the war early.
>>524504097ummm yikes sweaty incel, that antisemitic conspiracy theory been deboonked by snopes™
>>524510930yes, it's expensive and doesn't wortkin another words, another jewish scam
>>524511235>when jews scam their fellow jews with wartime safety equipmentIf they werent who they were
>>524503930Can it stop missiles or a nuke? Just curious.
>>524510371the US military HELIOS lazer uses 150kw max.for perspective, the current fastest EV charger is about 400kw.that is basically nothing combined with the fact you aren't talking about prolonged use. typically a couple seconds.
>>524510975kek
>>524504671They jews are a bronze age people with bronze age thinking and morality who may one day graduate into the iron age, anon. (A sign of progress?)
>>524503930>JUST INshut the fuck up and stop reposting X slop
>>524510561Quick amerigolems donate for a steele kippa
>>524503930awesome, time to artillery the shit (kikes) out of isreal
>>524508966>Developed in partnership with the U.S.Means paid for by U.S. taxcattle and given as tribute the jews.
>>524503930>iron beamcould be wrong but a simple reflective white paint on missiles will make that thing not work
>>524513972nvm apparently its for hamas type shit not missiles
>>524509938>If the technology maturesNo amount of technological 'maturing' will change the laws of physics. Light has garbage kinetic energy density. Lasers as weapons will always be a meme.
>>524503999It’s been tested. This was the “Jewish space laser” MTG was laughed at over. It’s a huge deal. Super cheap and won’t rely on American missiles any more. Plus with the move to build a base in Somaliland to keep an eye on Yemen this will be needed.
>>524514357Go be a disgusting shitskin somewhere else
>developed in partnership with the USWell, now we know where China got the tech for the LY-1 laser system
>>524514572Sorry Saar. You must not redeem the energy weapon, can you give me your Microsoft production key so I can verify!
>>524504056Yeah but kikes are more greedy than romanians .....took a while.
>>524511392High power laser can work against smaller/dumber objects in a clear sky and it's a much cheaper alternative to traditional RF-based AA especially when it comes to drones. But when it's raining or there are clouds or a sandstorm, it is just useless since most of the laser power is absorbed by those particles.
>>524503999>Jewish lasers be like
>>524515180Phase conjugation and adaptive optics are a thing.So are pulses light filamentsSo is distributed wireless power synthesisWhy is it whenever the topic of lasers comes up, anons only assume continuous beams without phase conjugated time reversal...and totally ignore the concepts of phases arrays (of lasers too) and pulsed, radially polarized beams?This isn't 1965 anon..
>>524504263I hear they run on camel piss
>>524504056
>>524510496>failedran out of interceptorsthough I guess you can call that a sort of failure too
>>524503930cool keep me posted when they get to test it out
>>524510371Yeah so you just keep pumping in more power and accepting the efficiency lossesPower can be very fucking cheap and doesn't tend to run out like normal defenses>>524514118>meme>being deployed by the country that gets missiles shot at it all the fucking time
>>524516096kek
>>524503930>a high-powered laser interception systemSounds like another PR exercise, after Iron Dome's abject failure.
>>524516445We had megawatt output chemical lasers in the 80s.We had the COIL laser in early 2000.Yes, we can make big and powerful lasers.Russians especially like chemical and plasma lasers.They like relativistic plasma electronics like backward wave oscillators. Inverse plasma masers/lasers
>>524503999Doesn't work in rain and fog too. It also can't shoot through clouds. It will work fine against bottle rockets tho.
>>524517456Hey retard. See:>>524515448>>524516844
>>524516844Dragonfire is going on Royal Navy ships in a year or so, as well as a few other navies.Fifty kilowatt, cost to fire is about ten pounds per shot, little maintenance needed. It definitely has drawbacks and weather limitations but enough people seem to think it's worth using
>>524517536Ya, that's what I'm telling you That's a toy compared to what they don't show the public.Again, we had megawatt output back in the 80s...do you really think we are no longer capable of that? Doesn't matter if it's chemical based or not.Also, you aren't even discussing pulsed, radially polarized beams, phased arrays, phase-conjugate Time reversal, or adaptive optics Laser tech is far and beyond what is being officially disclosured.
>>524517536>Weather limitations Lol, oh anon...that hasn't been an actual issue for quite some time now. First world militaries don't publically disclose their true capabilities.
>>524503930It is VERY perspective technology, especially for Israel and particular environment.Desert environment, with less air moisture, meaning less power, and greater range.More sunny day, more time when weather allows to intercept things in direct visibility. If used as auxiliary unit for Iron Dome, it would have potential to reduce overall costs. If system manages to decide, when it is enough to use lasers, and when interceptor missiles.Will be interesting to see how things will develop further.
>>524519226Hey, I really admire your Wikipedia tier level of knowledge here.Please see the following:>>524515448>>524516844>>524517767>>524517767
>>524503930Hopefully Iran doesn't have shiny surface technology because that can really reduce the effectiveness of lasers
No matter how much money Israel spends, even the trees and rocks will cry out and their allies will go to 0 and we will free all the nigger slaves that the Jews be whipping in the African mines RIGHT NOW
>>524503930I have a friend who works for elbit. he said the effective range is ~2km. It's good for killing drones and not much else. They are working on a variant that mounts on a helicopter so that should be somewhat useful when chasing hezb and houthi drones.
>>524519990>>524520012>>524520039You people are such morons.Please see:>>524519881
>>524503930So MTG was correct
>>524503930let's get a conflict going to see how this does in action
>>524519990The most effective tool would be launching in overcast weather.
>>524519881Need to wait for next campaign. When their Iron Dome (and to extent, Laser Dome) will get stress tested. According to trend from previous cases, it should take around 42 months.
>>524503930>in partnership with US goy taxpayers no shit, not gonna work btw
>>524520291Lol holy shitPlease see:>>524520118
>>524520364We'll see.Why doesn't anyone ever acknowledge pulsed modes of operation or radially polarized beams?
>>524519881What does that have to do with reflection
>>524520039Do Israelis enjoy cocaine? In America everyone loves stuffing heir nose with Columbia bambam.
>>524520461Phase conjugation time reversal applied to adaptive optics (modern systems use Bose Einstein Condensate, look up Alkali metal vapor lasers....no longer just micro-mechanical mirrors)
High powered Lasers HATE this trick
>>524520537tel aviv is just as degenerate as any western city. some israelis probably want tel aviv wiped off the map
>>524510081Was this a malfunction or an inbound missile?
I am a staunch advocate for LASER-based missile defense technology. We already have something even better than Iron Beam in the pipeline based upon the generation of what are called helical beams. Helical light resists scattering by atmosphere and enables LASER-based missile defense, communications, extended-range Flash LiDAR and optical power transfer at essentially unlimited range. See: 19 October 2023.https://mega.nz/folder/YE5RzaRK#FqKLdtp5sdwxYr_7A37mew
>>524520459When using arc welding, it takes around 3 kW of energy, to melt that metal. It is focused on small surface area.Laser cutting machines, which are widely used in industry, they are using like 6kw power. And been in use for decades. As much I know, they do not use polarization. Have no idea, why you mention it.That power, which needs to be generated and transferred, it is actually is not that big. Biggest obstacle is heat created at site, and energy loss in atmosphere. If that laser overheats way too fast, it have limited usage.
>>524520624half of israel live in tel aviv areathey all are degenerates
>>524520537I'd love some of the real thing but i cant afford it. I'm not doing crystal.
>>524520801Lol, I've seen your posts around.I think you're onto something conceptually, but paragraph long word documents aren't the same as being able to actually apply the hard math to your concepts.
>>524520751neithera jeet-tier "programmer" forgot to program in sanity checksa panicky jew conscript pushed a button when he shouldn't have (too late)so the system correctly drove the missile into the ground, where the expected point of intercept was
>>524520976You can't shoot down a missile with maths, you need physics for that.Israel has been good about adopting anything to do with missile defense, but the U.S. has turned into a technological backwater. There going to be a very serious problem with nuclear proliferation soon and it's not the usual suspects. DTRA ignored my warnings, but the long and short of it is that we can now make thermonuclear devices without fission triggers. I took the liberty of sending the plans to Taiwan as Trump will not get off his fat ass to help them unless it involves corporate welfare for NVidia.
>>524520854>Energy loss in atmosphereSee: >>524520575>>524517767>Power generated on siteBatteries and large homopolar flywheels. Super capacitors and super conductive, inductive storage.>Doesn't know what radial polarization is. Doesn't understand symmetrical, cylindric vector beams. Doesn't understand longitudinal electric field at focal point >Polarization not used in manufacturingBlatantly untruePlease learn more anon
>>524503930Wait until Iran deploys the Iron Chariots
>>524520883yeah, but rather live like than in serbia
>>524510496lmaowrecked
>>524513650That actually makes sense kek I'm running with it
>>524521199calm your tittiesthere are quite a few ways to get nuclear fusion to happen including, funnily enough, shockwaves from conventional explosives, properly channeled and focusednuclear fusion bombs aren't that useful outside of an all-out world war because there's a risk that some of them will be duds and then you have to account for randos dragging them home and reverse-engineering them and it completely upsets the apple cartthis being said, I am quite convinced that a few have been used, the temptation is just too great and some targets can't be bombed conventionally for whatever reasons
>>524521214>homopolar flywheelskekyou are putting some buzzwords togeather to impress.Super capacitors were used in rail gun experiments. There they needed to store that energy, before releasing to coils. With laser, it is different. Can "pump" medium, which is used. As CO2, which is used in metal cutting lasers. Provided continuous beam, without needing to go in "pulse mode" as it was with lasers in Cold War era.Anyways. Need to wait till Israel will have something to shoot at, and then hopefully there will be some reports of efficacy of it.Still, interesting and perspective tech.
>>524503930Will this be what the golden dome is made of?
>>524521804no the golden dome will have nuclear pumped lasers in orbit because it's just Ronnie Raygun's Star Wars project warmed over
>>524522028but space is fake
>>524521778Pretty sure the US military is pursuing alkali metal vapor lasers (in the form of Bose Einstein Condensate) for a very specific reason.Using a BEC as a buffer, you can create either a pulse compressor (frequency up shit to gamma) or a perfect phase conjugate time reversal mirror.Search the archives for zapper anon
>>524522268they will glue the explosively pumped lasers to the firmamentthey don't call it The High Frontier for nothing, you know
>>524510371>Tesla'a microwave lasersThis anon knows>>524516844>masers
>>524522320>n the form of Bose Einstein CondensatekekBose Einstein Condensate is low temperature thing. Means, there will be need for liquid helium. Meaning, very bulky, very expensive, and long recharge times. If they work with high power lasers at all.That thing about metal vapors. Likely it is somehow related to what ASML uses in their EUV lithography machines. That they use tin vapor, to generate extreme ultraviolet.For shooting down objects, UV laser would not be optimal, because of loss in atmosphere. Infrared should have way better penetration.At the end, you need SOMETHING which makes hole in the wall. Infrared sources work pretty well for that.US military is notorious about shifting requirments. Also like 2/3 of projects gets canceled without getting to prototype phase.With Isreael, they might be more motivated to get it to prototype phase, because frequently they actually have need to use air defense.
>>524522689Yeah and the moon is too big to be a space station because it's a giant skull facing away from us
>>524523012>Ignores core concepts>Doesn't even acknowledge phase conjunction with time reversal>Doesn't know about slow light experiments...pulse compression>Doesn't search archives for zapper anon like instructed.Ok man, whatever you say
>>524523012>Bose Einstein CondensateDude you'd need like liquid helium for that sh*t>>524516844>Russians especially like chemical and plasma lasers.Wake us up when they get deployed to ukraine
>>524503930Israel is literally Wakanda - it's all bullshit. Iran bombed the fuck out of Tel Aviv in June and they will do it again.
>>524514118Energy generation methods can always be improved. When we start drawing near-limitless energy from higher dimensions, poor energy efficiency won't be a problem.
>>524523288wakey wakey
>>524523197>>Doesn't know about slow light experiments...pulse compressionThose are not related to getting holes in drones or missiles. If there is application, it might be in optronic computers. Completely different thing, completely different power scales, completely different temperature ranges.
>>524523164that kid is going to put a hole through his own skull with a laser one day and I will snort a snort of satisfaction when I learn about it
>>524523288Russia supposedly has high power lasers that can destroy satellites, either they don't work or they are not allowed to use them because of the cuck in chief.
>>524523479Saved.Same things have happened in the USA.
>>524523636they do work (sort of)Russia has also dropped a tac nuke or small fusion bomb on the reddit brigade but it didn't accomplish much, operationally speaking, they could not create a breach, just moved the frontline back a bit
>>524523288>Dude you'd need like liquid helium for that sh*tIn theory, could use cascade. At first stage, use liquid nitrogen, then liquid helium. Then either adiabatic demagnetization (as with gadolinium sulfate or cerium nitrate). Or lasers, with phase shifting cooling.Complicated, expensive, bulky.
>>524510934>Those just landed harmlessly in a field, goy!
>>524523479That is just arc discharge on high voltage line.Because of nightime, camera tries to auto-balance, and thing looks way bigger and impressive than it actually is.Still would remain at some distance from it though.
>>524523956I mean, that beam is pretty well culminated anon...I don't think you are correct.>Still refuses to acknowledge zapper anonKek
>>524503930>iron dome is impenetrable!>we won the """war""" against iran!>we won so hard, we have to """upgrade""" our defences that definitely worked!Its a flacid attempt at repairing your "israel is impenetrable" branding and everyone knows it lmfao.I look foward to Boom Boom Tel Aviv 2.0 when your new toys dont do shit.
>>524523636>Russia supposedly has high power lasers that can destroy satellitesNot destroy. To blind sattelites.They had two planes carying that system. Developed in Soviet times. One they lost when maintenance engineers tried to steal ethanol from cooling system, and ... plane burned down. Second they lost, when ukrainians blown it up, while it was stationed on airfield.
>>524524121High-power lasers are not a new tech. There is a reason that they weren't deployed en masse neither by the US nor by Russia. Maybe there will be a renaissance for high power lasers because they offer a cheap solution for drones and smaller objects compared to traditional tactical/short-range/medium-range AA defense systems, but I doubt they will be used as a primary AA solution.
>>524523956yes absolutely the way it seems to grow in intensity the further up the camera looks is just some accident of filtering, toototally not a graser fired from a satellitesuch things don't even existand if they did nobody would misuse a weapon meant to shoot down nukes for something as trivial as a switching yardwould they?
>>524524366Good post anon.
>>524507193Kys cuckzarian hooked nose shelter tranny
>>524524352>There is a reason that they weren't deployed en masse neither by the US nor by Russia.Recent wars in which USA participated, they quickly establish air superiority. Then they do not need as much air defense, as they are bombing everything which can be used as a threat.Russia expected that they will capture Ukraine like in a week. Failed. For those anti-sattelite systems, they also did several cuts and restart for that program. Finally, they prioritized S-500 as anti-sattelite system. May be they it just had better prospects to become viable (and sellable) solution.Now when drone satturation attacks become more widespread, laser air defense, if it have just 5km range, can become very beneficial. And if they indeed will be quick to recharge, with low per-shoot costs. Then USA will be able to keep their mil bases in more "hot" areas.
>>524524366Re-watch that video second time. You see literal high voltage arc there.I am not denying that high energy satellite based systems does not exist. I am saying, that in this particular case, it is caused by high voltage arc discharge next to high-voltage substation.
>>524525016I see the high voltage arc, it's normal, it's what happens when insulators break down for some reasonin this instance the reason seems to be a high power, high frequency laser
>>524524862The USA has never been in a real war since, like forever. This war in ukraine has shown that nobody was ready for drones and possibly the only country that is ready for a world war-tier scale using drones is neither the US nor Russia but it's actually China.As for laser guns, yeah, I guess there will be more of them as short range AA systems. But if drones keep getting bigger/smarter/sent in intelligent swarms, then not even laser-based systems will be enough.Also what can be done when fiber-based drones get more advanced? these things are scary, they can't be jammed, they can't be detected by radars since they can move for many kilometers right above the ground. You can possibly even power them in the future using the fiber that transmits the data to some degree (i.e. similar to usb and ethernet power).
>>524504056based
>>524525248It is nightime. Either ukrainians droned russian substation, or russians droned ukrainian ones. It might be damaged transformer. Or something else. Arc is formed, arc ionizes air, making it more conductive. Hot air/arc, it is ligher, and pulls upward. Because of lower density. That arc becomes "streched upwards" in a sense.Because of dark background, and VERY BRIGHT arc, camera do this distortion.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ucMJhP_Y3q0Video where can observe short lived similar phenomenon in daylight.
>>524504224All charged to your credit card
>>524521214Fusion is predicated upon the turbulation of protons and electrons behaving as discrete units in a plasma. Shockwaves are not sufficient to support this as they tend to push protons in one direction only as opposed to random directions and the velocity of a high-explosive pressure wave is not sufficient to instigate fusion.Fission triggers work because they give off Gamma photons which convert back into electrons in a tank of liquid hydrogen. Introduce enough electrons fast enough and the over-electrification leads to rapid motion of protons relative to one another as well as the generation of gluons and odderons. This leads to a cascade called a thermonuclear reaction and sufficient additional photonic energy to superheat the surrounding atmosphere, creating a much larger pressure wave.Thermonuclear devices are fundamentally electrical.https://mega.nz/file/IM5nQSLK#b8Lsoku5ckhBAZc0qEvabx9XnDun0lpY2PnIHBjUiUEThe anionized densified hydrogen enhancement shoud allow for yields even greater than that of current devices.
>>524503999The defraction problem has been solved for around 3 years now. It works in rain, blizzards and sandstorms.
>>524525625This guy really wants us to know that this isn't a high powered laser >>524523479Also, STILL refuses to acknowledge zapper anon
>>524503930That ain't gonna stop all those ballistic missiles, lol. Why don't you take the Iron Dildo and shove it up your collective asses?
>>524503930oh good now they don't have to do the iron dome fireworks show anymore they can just say they shot down hundreds of "Hezbollah" rockets
>>524525625protip (just the tip and only for a minute)if you had a high-powered laser you could use it to start a fire in a switching yardhow, you ask? by strongly ionizing the air between terminals, creating an ion channel, a path for current flowweird, I know
>>524525703The only way to solve it is to wait until the sky is clear again.
>>524503930just paint it blue and lasers wont work
>>524525309>But if drones keep getting bigger/smarter/sent in intelligent swarms, then not even laser-based systems will be enough.Intelligent swarms can be mitigated with EM jamming. As they need some way how to coordinate between themselves.We are entering in interesting era. Where things rapidly changes to unclear direction.As example, recent Israel campaign in Gaza, when Bibi it used as way to consolidate his power. Will he need to do something similar in say 18 months? Who knows.Houti managed to disrupt maritime trade in Red sea for several months. One of ports in Israel declared bankruptcy as result of those actions.Venezuela at blockade. Trade war with China.
>>524525872Most drones are coated in heat resistent paint these days anyway that requires the beam to stay on target for at least 10 seconds. Israel's DEW is probably great for dui toy drones with IEDs attached since they can only fly in good weather conditions.
>>524514572>reeee he said something that upset me so imma call him a shitskin This is why you brain damaged assholes will always lose.
Video related : https://youtu.be/iryZQRkgwu0?si=4lLl7ZZh-peGdx9M
>>524523479wtf?Russians used LOIC against Ukraine?
>>524525811>how, you ask? by strongly ionizing the air between terminals, creating an ion channel, a path for current flowKek.Good one.
>>524526142The funny thing is that military researches are starting to revise using low frequencies, instead of high frequencies such as visible spectrum, X-rays, gamma rays. The higher the frequency, the harder it is to penetrate the ionosphere. Laser can be an exception tho due its coherence but it needs lots of power to get it right.Maybe the solution is to a build a flying AA systems.
>>524526294what's so funny? it's how electrolasers work
>>524503930GOOD maybe now we don't have to keep spending BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on free missiles for you.Ungrateful FUCKING KIKES.
>>524526679Nice Saved
>>524526679That substation, to fuck it up, there is no need for advanced weaponry. Some drones is enough.To get high voltage discharge, you can even use copper wire. In youtube, there are videos of retards trowing wire on high voltage lines.Then there comes distance. If remember correctly, for 1cm arc, needed 1000 volts. If there is 330kV line, then with 30cm distance, between contacts, you can get sustaining arch.
>>524509738>BAC smashing through a wimpy Jewish weinerThis is what makes those khazar milkers wet
>>524503930We're gonna need a bigger shark!
>>524526986the thing was never deployed allegedly but the company got schlurped up into the black world as far as I can tell>>524527017all that is true but quite irrelevant>>524526235just a laser
>>524527950Imagine picrel, but a pyramid with variable geometry to allow 2 of the 4 wings pivot about the nose cone pyramid to form the fuselage during horizontal flightOh and VTOL vertical take off or landing>powered by a single counter-rotating turbojet in the center of the crucifix>and wings with triangular ailerons ofc
>>524514572Goyim moment
