Does anyone have testimonies of how they were saved fromRoman Catholicism? I’m a Catholic but I am thinking about leaving the false paganism of Romanism after reading posts like this where people leave Catholicism and immediately get assured of their salvation
>>524505691Christ saves you so that you can spend eternity with him in Heaven, but we are still judged based on our actions while we were on earth. I get the feeling that many of us are going to be living in the Heavenly equivalent of Martin Luther King Blvd.
>>524505691look up Richard Bennett. he was a roman priest for decades before coming out. i think theres a testimony video and he's got several really good lectures about how rome teaches fales doctrines.
>>524505691Explain the parable of the wedding banquet
>>524505691>>524506041>>524506049>>524506198Meme
>>524505691>Pic related And then everybody clapped.
Catholics aren't even allowed to read the Bible. I have a friend who is catholic and he said the priest came to his house and searched it cause someone said he had a Bible.
>>524505691The Trinity is a real thing in that it's a navigation framework. Saying faith alone saves is bullshit and absolves you of responsibility in the moment and kicks the can until death. The ghost can be listened to. Jesus taught how to attune the nervous system to the mind so they resonate on the same pattern. Salvation won't come without facing your negative half and walking with it. What else is there to save you from other than yourself?
>>524506822>lying on the internet
>>524506823this is a very non-Christian post
Can you imagine being brought up catholic and having to hide your Bible under the floorboards? Being forced on your knees and told to worship the statue. Being told you have to think what the new Pope thinks or you are shunned and banned from the church? How can anyone call that Christian?
>>524507060Yet it's the most Christ like thing in the thread.
>>524507061it’s funny because none of that resembles catholicism at all (but jews really want you to believe that it does)
I saw a real christian street preacher online and he was telling catholics that Jesus paid the price and the catholic asked "Does that mean you can just keep sinning and not have to confess it?" They're literally forced to confess their sins to a priest. The street preacher said "Yes, you can sin all you want cause Jesus paid the price.". My pastor likes to phrase it as: "Do what you want is the new law." basically as long as you believe jesus existed you are now christian and are forgiven.
>>524506823>The Trinity is a real thingYes. The Father is unbegotten source. The Son is eternally begotten. The Spirit proceeds from the Father. The Son is "equal to the Father in his Godhead, less than the Father in his humanity.">Jesus taught how to attune the nervous system to the mind so they resonate on the same patternThis is retarded nonsense. Confess and repent. Trust in Him. Repenting will more often than not lead to Godly works.
>>524507439if you managed to make it one (1) response into the thread you would have seen that I mentioned this already. You are saved from eternal damnation but still judged based on your actions.
>>524507439Aleister Crowley would be proud.
>>524505691Jesus Christ himself founded the Catholic Church. All protestants are irredeemble heretics who go to hell. Every single one.
So humoring these protestants, they only mean belief in Jesus right? They're not gonan take me to their 'chuch' in a strip mall and start doing snake talking about how great israel is right?
>>524507595Yeah, you shouldn't really do bad stuff, criminals will be judged of course but God is forgiving, but catholics are judged more for their actions than any other religion because its literally evil. God accepts basically all denominations except catholicism. Catholics are on the broad path to destruction and everyone else is on the narrow path.
>>524506389That bitch is fat as fuck I thought you had to be hot to be in the idf.
>>524507971Of course they are. While telling you faggotry is no sin.
>>524507439God gave one deathbed repentance in Scripture, that none may despair; but only one, that none may presume.>"I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth." Revelation 3:15-16
>>524507061>evangelicals more subservient and goyish than a pajeet. what a despicable bunch
>>524505691you're all the same, my sky fairy will save me and banish my enemies. wake the fuck up. storytime is over, no one will save you. you just become dirt
>>524505691sola fide is such a lazy fucking cop out. fuck protties. it's just license to act like a faggot for 72 years
>>524505691Lying on the internet is still lying. Yet you're sinning by lying because you don't believe in personal responsibility for your own karma.The whole notion that Jesus can atone for your sins is scapegoating, and false. If someone commits a murder but frames it onto someone else, we consider that an even greater injustice, but you've accepted it as the greatest justice in history.Reincarnation is real, and Hell and Heaven both exist on Earth. Eternity is being reborn again and again not learning from your mistakes. Hell is being born into an abusive environment.
>>524507439>"Yes, you can sin all you want cause Jesus paid the price."These demonic preachers need to be shot.
>>524505691>makes a post about leaving religion because it assures them of salvation >comically unaware that religion is antichrist>unaware that double minded men build government and religion that will inevitably globalize and synthesize into authoritarian theocracy headed by the antichrist because of dialectic thought, stemming from the knowledge of good and evil>asks for input despite knowing the grass is greener on the other side.Nigger are you serious?
>>524507971>they only mean belief in Jesus right?Wrong. They only mean a performative 'simon says' act for social control. That's all it is about. It's a 'compliance test'. Once you have someone accept in their heart that brutal torture 2000 years ago absolves them of their sins today....Well, "Israel is our greatest ally" sounds downright sane after that.
>>524508228The problem with accusing Grace of being a lisence to sin is that mankind would be sinners regardless which is contradictory to the fucking point religion tards would be making. Whilst also blasphemously asserting or directly implying that they’re God incarnate.
God is love and so he loves all the different kinds of flowers in his garden. There are some denominations that think Peter is Satan cause Christ called him that in the Bible. A lot of denominations think Paul was evil and changed the religion. Some denominations chose to honor Jesus along with other great teachers like buddha. There are even some occult groups who like to mix christianity with satanism and say that God is evil. Even the denominations that have gay and trans pastors, which i don't agree with, but they are all still Christians. God loves everyone so he will forgive them if they're wrong about little things like that. The people God hates are catholics because they have kept their evil traditions from the start like holding mass, doing confession, having crucifixes and statues, showing devotion to mary and their saints, thinking that Jesus was God instead of just the son of God.
>>524508430One of the greatest Christian hypocrisies is ignoring Jesus' own teaching not to make a display of ones faith.
>>524508528>There are even some occult groups who like to mix christianity with satanism and say that God is evil.The problem you have here is one of basic logic. You claim God is omnipresent... That all things obey His Will... then whence comes evil?Spiritual traditions that have not become systems for creating slaves have easily dealt with this problem. If the 'Tao' is everything? Then is both black and white, feminine and masculine, hot and cold. Christians however, like the Jedi, never grow out of their childish fear of the dark. They desperately cling to one half of the whole, and destroy their own reasoning ability that God blessed them with to maintain truly moronic contradictions and beliefs.
>>524505691I was raised catholic, my being saved from it looked like me rejecting them entirely. There are so many things about the catholic church that fly in the face of scripture. The biggest one to me is the notion of going to a priest for confession, that the priest is the one who forgives, and that penance (say le hail mary 100 timerinos) is required. We have a High Priest, that is Jesus Christ, why then would we go to a lower priest, a man no less, for something so important as concern that our soul might be in danger? Their piety is feigned, or rather it is with the aim of making themselves God, the priest is the arbiter of forgiveness, knowledge, righteousness, etc. That is God and God alone, whom all have full access to through the outpouring of the Holy Ghost upon all flesh. The biggest heathen athiest pile of crap asshole could know God as well as a man of God if he only he repented, not through works, but according to the spirit of Faith. But, faith without works is indeed dead, the most charismatic, so faithful it is strange, church accomplishes nothing but speaking strange sounds into the air, their error is just as grievous (any error is on the same level), that is something like turning on the radio but leaving the car in park, repenting is both in faith and deed, faith first then deed. If there is faith then why would there be no movement? God gave us his breath and his life, but we still need to take the breath given. God gave us forgiveness, dont just look at it, take it.
>>524508573if you showed me catholics versus protestant black churches i could decide easily which one was doing the display of ones faith thing
>>524505691Protestants are such spiritually lazy bastards. Modern evangelicals are no better than the hippies. They don't go to church they go see a slideshow of low tier bands & political worship.
>>524508814>le dialectic of dualistic pseudo niggerdom Love it when the enlightenment tards come to play, with all their gay theosophist bullshit and checkerboarded floors and plaid apparel. When are you going to NOT grift off of problem solution vanity. Totally setting yourself up for Satan to come in and act as the counterweight to frame himself as the hero. Dipshit.
>>524508937confessing one to another is perfectly Biblical but the roman church turned it into a thing that is exclusively the domain and ability of one of their priests. thats the problem plus, as you say, the 'penances' they dispense.
Obviously anyone can see that Catholics are the same as they were since the middle ages. Through all of the protestant reformation until today their evil church has prevailed against the forces of good who tried to show them that the real Christianity is one that can reach out to all people by offering different flavors of doctrine so more people can become Christian. I don't even like to say Christian sometimes cause it excludes people i know who are good people, i just say "spiritual people" cause God doesn't discriminate. I have an atheist friend, a buddhist friend, they are still good people and i know they will be allowed in heaven, but catholics will basically all go to hell.>>524508814>both black and whiteYeah, you're right. My pastor teaches us that good can be evil and evil can be good. Think about like stealing bread to survive and stuff. Its not about just being good all the time like catholics say with their virtue and wholesome bullshit.>>524508937I remember i saw a catholic once and he was praying and looked all sad saying "have mercy on me, a sinner", i thanked God that i was a protestant and not like him. We know that our sins are forgiven and they don't.
>>524509050>all their gay theosophist bullshit>setting yourself up for Satan to come in and act as the counterweight to frame himself as the heroVery nice projection, brainwashed cattle.
>>524509095historically it was done in front of the church but it evolved into the priest acting as witness for the church, which removes a lot of fear
>>524508937It is the same with everything else, God gave us His Word, take him at his Word, dont take the word of a man. If I were to tell you all about the anon who posted the first reply to this thread, everything about him, who he is and what he is like, what right would I have to do so? And not only a question of right, but what is there that would indicate that I know a single thing about him simply because I can say he is anon? It is God work whether one knows him or not, whether they see with their eyes or seeing do not see, it is not the work of a priest, nor a bishop, nor pastor bob, nor church elder jim, it is God and God alone from whom Knowledge of God comes. If you are a believer, if you are a man in pursuit of God, then He will not allow you to go astray, if you miss the path set before you He will course correct you back in the right direction, only by trusting man over trusting God, or by rejecting God, will you go truly astray. That isnt to say "go forth you are free to do whatever the hell you want", a man in pursuit of God will be mindful of both his thoughts and actions and be weary of participating in unrighteousness. That is made difficult, however, by a world full of people who call righteousness unrighteous and unrighteousness righteousness. It is not righteous to be a cuck or to allow what has been given to you to be harmed, neither is it righteous to welcome thieves into your neighbors home, but rare is the church that will say that. The concept of being humble has been changed to mean being pathetic, and the catholic church has been very vocal about calling it evil to not welcome evil into your nation. tldr; you want to find out if you should leave the catholic church? read the bible and count how many commandments their doctrine defies.
>>524509273>My pastor teaches us that good can be evil and evil can be good.When a lion eats a gazelle, is that good or evil?Depends entirely on which one you ask, no? Thus it is with the cosmos. The perspective of the ALL does not make the distinctions our human brains MUST make to survive. >'We are all one consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively. 'Is that notion not made tangible just on this discussion forum?
>>524509296>historically it was done in front of the churchsounds like another tradition that some may have had. i dont see any scriptural reason to confess to a sin so publicly that was, for example, committed privately to a single brother or sister etc. a sin against the whole group would warrant such a public apology though for sure.removing fear of having to confess your sins probably isnt a good thing really
>>524509275>knowledge of good and evil >the solution is the source of the problem!>retardedly huge government and religion ensues OH BOY I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE MIX EM TOGETHER AFTER PROVIDING THE CONTEXT TO JUSTIFY SUCH A THING! Fucking clown. >yuh gutta be able to make terribul decisions in order to have le free will >yuh just can’t only have good decisions to choose from
>>524506823>responsibilityAka pride
>>524505691Works are the outward sign of inner faith. You cannot love God and not desire to do His will. You can do His will, and use that to strengthen your love for Him as well. I'm protestant, but understand the catholic position on it. Saying they believe in works based salvation is misrepresenting their beliefs But you don't care about that do you? You just want infighting and weakening Christianity
>>524509330>That isnt to say "go forth you are free to do whatever the hell you want", a man in pursuit of God will be mindful of both his thoughts and actions and be weary of participating in unrighteousness.this is kind of the point that is always missed in these kinds of threads - that a truly saved person will have received the Spirit and a new heart that wants to please God. Such people generally dont just go and sin all they 'want to', because they dont really want to do that at all. if a person does want to sin and does so as a general trend without fighting it or even saying that its wrong etc, then there are grounds for doubting their salvation. so in a sense saying that 'you can do what you want and be saved' is correct, but only when said in the clear context of spiritual regeneration.,
>>524506389Why do they look like our local women, oh right...
>>524509500>>yuh gutta be able to make terribul decisions in order to have le free will>>yuh just can’t only have good decisions to choose fromIsn't that exactly what protestantism teaches about the origin of evil? But then 'free will' is a completely vacuous concept. There is no 'free will'. There is only Will. Will is not Free; it must be earned.
>>524509412it's easier to say that good and evil aren't inherent and only exist as opinions in our mindsthis hogwash that religion teaches to people makes us blind to reality, in favor of a "divine" purpose that puts us above mere animals on the planet (when in reality, that is exactly what we are)Constantine ROYALLY fucked over the world when he embraced the weak and shitty religion of Christianity
>>524506389Which one is the Muslim, and why isn't she wearing hijab?
>>524509095>confessing one to another is perfectly Biblical but the roman church turned it into a thing that is exclusively the domain and ability of one of their priests. thats the problem plus, as you say, the 'penances' they dispense.yes, asking God for forgiveness and then not asking the person wronged for forgiveness is... short sighted. If I believe I have done a wrong thing I ask God forgiveness first, and then if it is possible I ask the person for forgiveness and attempt to make amends. Ultimately it is God who forgives, asking him first changes the second encounter with the person wronged into a much more forgiving situation. But then also there are things that a person cant forgive, if you said something that offended me, I too need forgiveness but how can you forgive me for being offended? The wrong that I would have committed there is against myself, if I am offended I sin against my own soul, I need God to forgive me for me, because I dont know how to. And then there is, for the lurkers, "well that sounds stupid", in a way it does but any degree of guilt or shame tarnishes who we are, if I enter tomorrow with either of those on me that day wont be as pleasant as it could have been, maybe I'll miss an opportunity, maybe things just wont go very smoothly, it might seem a little thing but it is not a little thing to curse yourself. Speaking of curses, every thought in contrary to the truth amounts to a curse, if a man thinks he is miserable then he will continue to be so, because though he doesnt realize it he is asking for more of the same. "the beatings will continue until morale improves", only when you allow errant thoughts to enter your mind the only one beating you is yourself.
>>524509330>God gave us His Word, take him at his Word"You will know I Am That which I Am by my works."You don't have to take him at his word. He wants you to know him by his fruits.
>>524509817Has to be the one at the back who has the arabic writing.
>>524506041You don't spend all of eternity in Heaven.
>>524509711>this hogwash that religion teaches to people makes us blind to realitySlaves that can see reality clearly are no longer slaves...>in favor of a "divine" purpose that puts us above mere animals on the planet (when in reality, that is exactly what we are)"If we crave some cosmic purpose, then we should find ourselves a worthy goal." -Carl Sagan
>>524509647>so in a sense saying that 'you can do what you want and be saved' is correct, but only when said in the clear context of spiritual regeneration.,I think a decent way to describe how I see it is "you are free now, dont worry that you might make a mistake, but also dont go seeking mistakes."
>>524509412>When a lion eats a gazelle, is that good or evil?A catholic would probably say "that's different, that's just nature and we are held to a higher standard because we have higher capability for reason" cause they literally think God gave man the ability to create good on our own through our will and that its different and higher than the base instincts of nature. Such bullshit. They just want everyone to be a slave instead of being free and to do whatever makes you happy.>We are all one consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively.I like that way of thinking, we are all God, we are all one unit and basically we naturally follow the will of the multitude when we find a new way to be free. It used to be that all the stuff we love today was considered disorderly and sinful by the catholic church. They have things they call the 7 deadly sins but its stuff that basically everyone enjoys now like lust (porn and masturbation), greed (getting as much money as you can), wrath (like insulting people irl or on twitter to that you don't like). They think all that stuff is evil. Catholics hate the modern world that we all enjoy, they aren't experiencing us subjectively at all cause they think we're evil but they're the evil ones trying to get people to think just like them. I even heard one say that liberty is the ability to seek what they call just and virtuous, but its not, its the right to do what they call evil and now that we have liberty from them we can do it all.
>>524510091a saved person surely is free (from being judged by the Law with regards to salvation) but its also the fact that the Bible clearly speaks of a real change being wrought in that person by the Holy Spirit. A new heart, a heart of flesh instead of stone, the indwelling Spirit and so on. Salvation is an umbrella term for numerous different effects, gifts etc, some of which are in the present and some of which are to come.
>>524509871Yes. However, is someone who has been so thoroughly deceived by a church able to see His Works? If they were they would not have been so deceived. >believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me, or at least believe for the works sakeJesus himself put emphasis on believing scripture fulfilled over looking for works in order to believe.
>>524510258This song goes well with your post: https://youtu.be/P6kd0FQhd5k?si=6mqKGnNcXBidhgIb>they aren't experiencing us subjectively at all cause they think we're evilYou have an error there. Their judgement of you as a sinner for insulting someone online is that subjective experience. One of the main parts of that subjectivity is the forgetting of the fact we are one.
Yes, but high level catholics still have a monopoly on esoteric christianity. We legitimately dont know what those inside the house were doing.Thinking christianity is all surface level is retarded and a very quick way to hell.
>>524510443and thats the thing that makes an easy conversation like this a little more difficult, there are so many aspects to what we are both trying to write about that it might not be possible, for us at least, to clearly describe all of them in one conversation. I think of that like this, if I could teach a man the fullness of God then I would be a thief, because that belongs to God. But, I can point to scripture and say "whats been given to you is in there".
>>524509871>You don't have to take him at his word. He wants you to know him by his fruits.
>>524510488>believing scripture fulfilled over looking for works in order to believe.Are prophecies coming to pass not works to justify faith?
>>524509534What is the will of God?
>>524510764fair enough. i really just wanted to address the silly 'go sin as much as you want' kind of comments that dont even get close to describing what the Good News is. Of course, its all covered in Scripture (what shall we say then, that a man should so that grace should abound? GOD FORBID) etc.
>>524510937Love God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your strength Love your neighbor as you love yourself What that means and how you go about that is more difficult and requires more time to understand what love is, what God is, who you are, and some basic context for the period this arrived in and the traditions leading up to it
>>524510258>and to do whatever makes you happy.that is a tight path with cliffs on both sides. A better way to say it would be, in my opinion, "do what you know is right, abstain from what you know is wrong, and if you arent sure dip your toe before diving in" Paraphrasing: When Joshua took over after Moses, God brought him to a spot and said "look over there, stay away, dont go within a mile of it, just look and watch and after I show you the way then you can go there". It is like a father teaching his son how to do a task that might be dangerous, "you stand here and watch me do it, then you will know the right way to do it and can try for yourself." If God hasnt taught us how to handle a situation then we ought to pause and wait until He does so. >It used to be that all the stuff we love today was considered disorderly and sinful by the catholic churchNothing justifies anything else, only God justifies, if I am at a store and tackle a robber to the ground that, obviously, does not justify tackling anyone else in that store. Something being deemed as acceptable by society does not justify it. That line of reasoning straight into "that man got beaten for wearing a hat, surely that wouldnt have happened if God justified wearing that hat, and surely God justified the men who beat him for it". If we are to measure anything, whether goods or justification or anything else, then it must be apples to apples, God hates an unjust weight. Where the Spirit of the Lord is we can find justification, do you see the Spirit of the Lord in what society calls acceptable? or is what you find there rot and corruption?
>>524508528>satanists and fags can go to heaven>but not Catholics! Why are Protestants so fucking retarded
>>524511369I know what it is but im asking you and you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about bro.In the gospel of John Jesus gets asked the same question.
>>524511670they'd all need to repent and believe on Christ, obviously. they can't keep on practicing or believing some of the things that they've been practicing and believing.
>>524505691Catholics are weird. When their “church tradition” trumps scripture they aren’t a Christian church. I feel like a lot of the things they loved from their former lives as Hellenists got in the way of the early Catholic church being what it is supposed to be. The tale of the Golden Calf rings a bell.
>>524506041It will be like Martin Luther King Blvd throughout all of heaven because the vast majority of Christians are African niggers. But yeah, Christians is king and all that.
>>524511752Commands seem like a good representation of His will. We don't get it right most of the time, but it seems like any will for us will stem from what we are explicitly told to do.
>>524510535>Their judgement of you as a sinner for insulting someone online is that subjective experience. One of the main parts of that subjectivity is the forgetting of the fact we are one.Yeah, you're right. Everyone has their own point of view. That's why they think we're evil but really we're just being natural even if they consider it evil. Everyone can agree that this society is much better when we allow their so called "evil" to spread, its why we have cool things today. Things like porn a catholic would say lead everyone involved to devalue love, but they don't, the people in the porn make money which is good, and the people watching it feel good. Examples like porn help society to be more free. Look at something less controversial like overeating. If someone likes to overeat and get fat, why should we judge them? They're just doing what comes natural, its not like society feeds them the idea that they should overeat, they made that free choice on their own. Catholics would just be like "you are eating way too much, you glutton", and that's just judgmental. Their so called "evil" has helped society because now everyone sees what we will tolerate or they are bullied over not doing what is free, but they would call that "wrath". The only thing we don't tolerate is intolerance, and catholics are full of it.>>524511532>i can't just tackle anyoneYeah, except if you did it to a catholic nobody would care cause everyone hates them.>Do you see the Spirit of the Lord in what society calls acceptable? or is what you find there rot and corruption?It depends because we all see things in different ways. Some like to do what others call sinful. If you think one passage means you can't do something and another christian thinks it means you can, then who is right? Catholics decided that we should all think alike and follow traditions lead, but protestantism made it so we are free to think for ourselves.
>>524510920>Are prophecies coming to pass not works to justify faith?faith does not require justification, or its not faith. Affirmation is the word you are looking for. A man not already having faith will not see works. How many having no faith saw Jesus's works in person and did not see? And, it is Gods work that they neither have faith nor sight nor hearing, but a repentant heart will find faith and is of faith. And where ought a man look to see Gods works? A man who demands a sign will not receive it. This, too, is written? And why wont he receive it? Because he already made his choice, though dishonesty abounds in him so multitudinously that he himself thinks he has not chosen not to see. But, he has, and how can we know this but by a very simple deduction: Whatfor is he demanding a sign, as if the very breath he draws is not? or the clouds in the sky? or the first flowers of spring? Life is His Works. Yes there are miracles too, presently, often and truly miraculous, but who will see them that doesnt also see the birds coming and going? I do not say this lightly but I intend it gently, you are in error.
>>524509001A church is two or more people joined in faith of Jesus Christ. My home is my church and my family my congregation. I’m not dragging myself up to do things out of sheer routine, I’m praying, doing bible study and researching the lords works constantly.
>>524506822>>524507061Kek
>>524512259it is the case though that Christians are told to not forsake the gathering together with other Christians. its clearly not just about the people you usually have in your home.
>>524505691Can Christkeks explain how they support Trump? He is a living embodiment of the seven deadly sins:Pride (or vainglory): An excessive belief in one's own abilities or qualities; often considered the root of all other sins.Greed (or avarice/covetousness): An excessive and insatiable desire for material possessions or wealth.Wrath (or anger): Intense and uncontrolled anger or hatred that desires vengeance.Envy: A selfish sadness or resentment at the prosperity, success, or possessions of others.Lust: A disordered or excessive desire for sexual pleasure.Gluttony: Overindulgence in food, drink, or consumption in general.Sloth (or acedia): Spiritual or moral laziness; a failure to act and utilize one's talents and a distaste for spiritual goods.
>>524512229>It depends because we all see things in different ways. Some like to do what others call sinful.Subjectivity is a giant crock of shit. Good and evil are objective. However, there are some things which are not sins against God, but sins against yourself. And this is what you are describing, for instance lets say that there is something that both of us do, some activity, but lets say that you have absolutely no problem with it, but I do, for you doing it wouldnt be a sin but for me doing it would be. The big difference here is there are things that are never acceptable, but then there are other things that are a matter of conscience.
>>524512491seems to me that he's simple been the better choice compared to the alternative. he also does express some pro-USA sentiments, is generally pro-2A and so, again, especially compared to the other side.
>>524512259>A church is two or more people joined in faith of Jesus Christ.You forgot valid communion, buddy.(Roman "Catholic" communion is not valid, they use a satanic unleavened mockery for bread.)
>>524507999Yeah world's sexiest military and all
>>524506389They're literally all ethnically Jewish
>>524505691Most made up schizo babble of all time and millions of Christards will respond with shit like, "So true".You're why society sucks and I hope we kill you all eventually.
>>524505691If you're already calling the Church 'pagan' I have doubt how much you're 'thinking' about anything.Secondly, Satan knows scripture too. A false sense of assurance that one is saved (sin of presumption) is literally one of the most dangerous things one can have.Think about all the fat people who insist they aren't fat. This is the spiritual equivalent.
>>524512132Stfu srsly
>>524505691>stories I just made up
>>524505691You're a weak cuck who "believes" whatever you feel like, you should kys asap.
>>524505691i'm so glad i believe in God and Jesus but don't go to any church. what a bunch of nonsense.
https://youtu.be/J16lInLZRms?si=MEWrWqUt6OlmqOgdDo yall pray three or five times per day?
>>524507439Literally the Fred pulling off the mask and its shlomo meme: the post
>>524505691God kept away every last catholic influence in my family from tainting my life. And now that I'm an old fart, the distinction between catholic and christian has never been more clear.They are on the cusp of death and full of lamentations, complete with all the worldly treasures one could possess, but no family. And here I am, grateful and eating the bread of my labors with full blessings of God.I even wanted to extend my hand and show some kindness, so I baked some bread for them this holiday, and just as the work was complete, their personal tragedies prevented them from eating from my bounty.Such is the will and authority of Almighty God, the God of Abraham and David, the Judge of this world.
>>524505691Christfags the new Redditors with these made up stories kek
>>524513446How does confessing to a money grubbing weak limp wrist preacher mean more than just speaking to god at home? How does a man somehow forgive another mans sins through confession?Only the Creator can do that.
>>524512486>the gathering together with other ChristiansThis is where I have pause. I havent been able to find a church where lies arent preached.
>>524512540I understand where you're coming from. You're the guy who said he was raised Catholic, right? It must have rubbed off on you a bit. Sure, in the Bible Paul considers some things that would scripturally be considered wrong (i think he says "eating meat sacrificed to idols is nothing"), but that others would consider it a controversy, and so it would be wrong to shove it in their face and whatnot. Protestantism changed all that though. The whole basis behind protestantism is that we now have the ability to personally interpret the scriptures on our own and don't need priests or a hierarchy at all. Catholicism likes to keep things the way they were and be careful about every new thing making sure it can agree with their evil teachings. In each era there was new stuff that protestants helped to introduce. In the early days it was things like protestants deciding divorce was ok (anglican), protestant deciding they could go to war and do away with stuff they didn't like in catholicism without the Pope having any say in it (lutheran and others), people living for money and wealth if they want to and still being christian (unitarian). It kept going with stuff like that and we basically destroyed everything that society once was and remade it in our image, a whole new society based on our enlightened ideals that forced people away from being able to be catholic and be in society because they would be pulled into things catholics consider sinful. Maybe you're not ready to see subjectivity, and that's fine, i know a baptist protestant who thinks like you do and its great that you follow the bible, but that's where protestantism is heading. Freedom of expression creates new denominations where new denominations are needed but we are all protestant christians together, united in protest. One day what you think of as protestantism will grow into its final form and changing societal values will make it so nobody will disagree with and only catholics will be against it.
Not gonna lie, former Roman Carholic here. This is hilarious watching Catholicism crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this religion get the works codes.
>>524513944how strict are you being? differing on essentials is one thing but matters of tradition and preference is another.
>>524512540Don't get me wrong, its great that you have such specifics of how christians should operate as long as you are not catholic. Lots of protestants disagree on different parts of doctrine, but if there's one thing we all agree on its that catholics are wrong. Your branch of protestant Christianity might seem true to you, but other branches of Protestantism are just as true to their followers also, and we we're told we shouldn't judge. Someday your branch might have new ideas based on the times and they will change their interpretations, just look at how most protestants have conformed to the ways of the world now with only few exceptions like the amish. Most protestants will be stuck in their ways but slowly things change, just look at how many have accepted gay marriage in our lifetimes, we might not agree with that ourselves, but it shows how easy it is for our reliance on personal interpretation to change things. Someday your grandchildren might still be christian like you, but they might be in a church with satanists and think nothing of it cause society will move them with culture to view that as christian acceptance much like today where we are kind to people of other faiths thanks to freedom of religion. If we were in a catholic society they would judge those people as heritics, and maybe you do too to an extent, and that's ok cause its your personal interpretation. The one thing we all agree upon is that Catholicism is evil, and so you can expect protestants to keep eliminating what catholics have now until no protestant will ever talk about saints, or have crosses, or any of the other things they might find to be "too catholic", and that's how its always gone. One day we will have we've purified the faith into something we can all agree on and only catholics will stand against us cause they will never give up their evil ways and traditions.
That's the beauty of Protestantism; we always slowly change to go with the times, and no matter how much we change, even if its hard to see some of us as christians anymore, even if some of us become what some consider satanists today, we are all united in support of the larger battle to erase catholicism and all of its teachings. Its just like in revelations, we will be united in our new faith and all worship God together, and catholics will have their Pope who is obviously the anti-christ and be against us.
>>524505691>>524506041Bro there is literally nothing in scripture that supports your head canon. If you sin you go to hell
>>524505691>Oh no I'm going to hell!>But what if you didn't have to?>Yay I'm saved!deep
>>524507439Satanism, that’s not Christianity
>>524516847That is what most street preachers think. Even in OP's pic related it references the common method modern protestants use to show people why they should be Christian. They go up to people and say "you can know if you are saved and will go to Heaven" and then say its because Jesus payed the price, and they use it to trip Catholics up and get new converts cause most people think of Christianity as a works based religion, just like catholics do. If you go to a catholic church they will say you aren't saved unless you do what they tell you, they hate the idea of Christ saving people and basically spit on you if you say you are saved by grace. Most people think hearing about Jesus paying the price means "Does that mean I can sin as much as i want?" and yes you can sin all you want, because Jesus paid the price. "Do what you want is the new law" as long as you believe in Jesus you are saved. Catholics think we need to follow the traditionally accepted way of being good, and participate in the church like people used to do, but we now know that we don't even need a church and that things they consider evil can be good based on your own personal interpretation.
>>524516847Another anon said it this way, though he might not understand the completeness of it:>>524512540>for instance lets say that there is something that both of us do, some activity, but lets say that you have absolutely no problem with it, but I do, for you doing it wouldn't be a sin but for me doing it would be.What he doesn't understand is that we can sin all we want as long as we don't see it as sin anymore, that is how protestantism eliminated most catholic teachings from their denominations, new denominations can grow that believe things that others once considered sinful and still be considered Christian. That's the basis of Protestantism and how even things like satanism aren't as bad as being catholic. Catholics are evil and think we should rely on things like justice, and virtue, and wholesomeness as it was defined in the past by them. A new form justice might seem like persecution to those stuck on catholic way of thinking, a new virtue might seem like sin (like how what might have been called "hedonism" in catholic terms can today be called "making yourself feel good"), a new wholesomeness might involve lots of sex and debauchery that wholesome people from the 1950's wouldn't recognize as wholesome. It all depends on personal interpretation, the greatest weapon the protestants have against catholics. We can literally turn the world upside down using it as has been done throughout history many times, their evil can be our good, our good can be their evil.
Works matter, faith alone is a garbage belief.
>>524516533>That's the beauty of Protestantism; we>hello fellow Protestants i dont think so.
>>524505691>things that never happened, x edition
>>524519013Yes, that's the catholic belief (that you are justified by faith and will naturally perform good works going forward as much as you can) but to informed protestants, who can see all of us as one, works are subjective and thus different based on the denomination, so you can sin all you want as long as you believe in Jesus and don't consider what you're doing to be a sin. If its called sinful by other protestants you have the ability to create your own ministry where you teach a different doctrine. Catholics are stuck in their ways, protestants go with the flow of society and shape it to conform to new ways of freedom that were considered sinful in the past.
>>524505691>and then everyone apostasized
>>524519013This is why some denominations have accepted gay marriage and trans people but catholics haven't. I don't think they should be included, but that's ok because its my personal interpretation. Someday my children might go to a church with a trans pastor and although I disagree with that, they might feel its right and that's ok cause its their personal interpretation, and i accept that. Protestantism moves with society and the world, catholicism does not. One day mainline protestantism might say: "Jesus was just a good teacher", that's shocking to me today as i feel it lowers him too much, but that is most likely how protestantism will look in the future; a religion we can all agree on. Though many protestants today like to think of themselves as "Bible believers", and that's great, the real truth is that in protestantism personal interpretation is above the scripture obviously, because anyone can read what they want in the scripture and decide what it means. Catholics say that means we have to rely on "sacred tradition" and the "doctors of the church" or church fathers teachings basically. Protestants don't have that. Each new branch is its own brand of Christianity and one day a branch of protestantism will be able to include all the other faiths in it too, and that's when catholics will try and persecute us with their anti-christ Pope, because they are just as they were in the past as they are in the present, and will be the same in the future.
>>524505691Jesus saved us from Yahweh and his filthy religion
>>524505691>Do good stuff like Jesus and you'll go to heaven>God has already decided before you were born who if you go to heaven >Everyone good or bad will eventually go to heavenhmmm
>>524515430there is only one Truth. There is no my truth vs their truth. Further there is no privy interpretation, all the denominations are wrong in their own special little way, but the one which is most wrong is the catholic church, with their "come to me, not God" heresy. This is the general apostasy of prophecy, the churches have all deviated.>look at how many have accepted gay marriage>if you dont agree with this is it personal interpretationsly as the devil you are.
ITT: Profound mental illness.
>>524507439>Real Christian preacher>Sin all you want, broMy brother in Christ, that is Satan, and you have been deceived.
Just kidding, bros. I hope that anyone who reads my posts can now see why protestantism is an out of control runaway heresy that clearly resembles a template for the religion of the beast. I understand you are all set in your ways and think that your branch is the really-real Christianity because you got rid of this or that catholic teaching, but look how much has changed for you since Luther. There are denominations that now hate Paul, denominations that bless sin, denominations that think "we don't even need a church", or that Christ was simply "a good teacher". Understantd how easily people are lead astray and down the wrong path with a little encouragement and a little personal interpretation; that is what is on the horizon for those who do not hold to both sacred scripture and sacred tradition.Ask a protestant friend what his favorite saint is and they can't answer, or they have to twist their way into saying their favorite saint "wasn't really that catholic though actually". You would never let the heroes of your country be diminished that way, or their achievements written out of history, but you let it happen to the heroes of the faith who devoted their lives to God and died for it? Don't doubt that someday someone will write all you hold dear out of your brand of protestantism; none of the mainline protestant branches resemble their original historical form.>to be deep in history is to cease to be protestantCome home to The Holy Catholic Church, of which you are already a part of (if you are a true believer in Christ) despite your impossible ignorance. Do not make the mistake of ignoring the fullness of the faith or think that where you are is good enough. Live for the glory of God and the salvation of mankind....and yes, my wayward friend, there is only one truth, and it IS to come to God, and that is what we Catholics believe despite what others have convinced you to think of us. Our arms will always ready to embrace, dear brother in Christ.
>>524506822Good, peasants shouldn’t even be taught to read period
