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Then it is correct to say we should bring back polygymy where men can marry multiple women in the west and maintain that style of life since it appears to be the default of human nature right? It's not some "redpill" it appears to just be how men and women function together

As of now we have this game where men will unofficially be with multiple women at once and it is messy. Better to just formalize it and make it acceptable socially.
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>>524512732
thats not how america became great. there are otther ways to fix this.
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True. Good point
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>>524512732
Then you can't complain about birth rates anymore.
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>>524512732
Considering the fact that in Western countries outside of the top 1% women are more educated and earn more on average hypergamy cannot sustain itself for long
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Finally, a foid thread. These are very rare.
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>>524512808
Anthropologists estimate that around 85% of recorded traditional societies allowed some form of polygyny, and genetic data suggests that historically more women than men reproduced, meaning a subset of men had multiple partners

https://bhroberts.org/records/0uv3zL-O77ftc/david_p_barash_writes_about_the_evolutionary_biological_evidence_for_human_disposition_towards_polygamy
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Polygyny is already allowed, retard
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But did you ask the rich men if they want to marry an ugly 30 year old fat feminist woman?
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>>524513014
You cannot marry 2 people at the same time in the usa. It is not allowed
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>>524512732
1 man cant keep up his harems and incels wont work for him or defend him having nothing out of it
Christian monogamic society got so far because it was relatively stable
when you let all people openly know winner takes all its going to be a bloodshed during which we'll lose all the achievments of civilization like electricity or sewage
giving women choices is always a lethal mistake but we keep repeating it and going back to point 0
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>>524512978
whites have always been a minority
even mormons changed their way just so they could get statehood for utah
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>>524512732
> takes monogamy to build first world civilizations.
> average man won't invest in a society with no return.
I'm sure it will be just fine and we won't all return to third world standard and constant wars to kill excess men. Forward to utopia!
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>>524512732
every BBC should be given 10 white women each
(13% minus the ones in jail)
and every white twink should be imprisoned and forcibly transitioned to serve the prison BBCs
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>>524513226
Indians law
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>>524513226
>A glimpse into the average pajeet "brain."
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>>524512808
Stfu retard. It’s the only way to fix this mess
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Polygamy is already happening, just not in the way you think

Hint: it's black guys and sister wives, usually white women
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>>524513226
most Indian post I've seen today
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>>524513226
Forgot your memeflag
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>>524512948
That’s fine. We only need it short term
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>>524512732
One guy hogging all the boipucc. Sounds great...
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>>524513383
Did you even read the whole post, nigger?
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>>524513468
It’s the only way women will finally settle for less when they have to compete with other women in a formal way and not just being sluts underground
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>>524512732
i'm already doing this it is called polyamory and i have two bfs
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Women say they would rather be chad's side piece but I think most of them are stupid and think he is only seeing them and are surprised when they find out he is seeing multiple women.
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>>524513568
No one asked, queen tubba blubba
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>>524513474
Yes, I read your post, and yes, I told you it's already happening.

But with black guys.

That's literally it.

There's like 10 famous rappers who all have 6-7 girlfriends and wives that live together.
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>>524513605
I’m not OP you brainded monkey
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Muh women women women women women women women women women. I am so fucking tired of ugly losers here shitting this already shitty board. It's not my fault you are fat/autistic/shy/dirty/nerd/beta or whatever the fuck you are. Fucking bitches in 2025 it's easy as fuck if you take care of your body and have a bit of wits. Literally the easiest time in history.
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A business owner is able to have more than one employee officially. If this business owner is able to provide for more than one employee and the people are encouraged to work for him then they should be allowed to

There are big businesses that are more successful than small ones and they can even create more competition. We don't limit things to only small business.
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>>524512732
Female hypergamy (wanting the very best provider, even if he's way above her class / status) and polygyny are both the default state of humans, yes.
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>>524513759
whites are ABOVE the default subhumans
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>>524512732
>>524512978
You're overlooking the some basic facts here chief.
One, modern "Science" or "Research" should always be put to question given how unreliable it is.
Two, that the most successful and functioning societies have always been Monogamous. This is basically how Europe and America were able to achieve such dominance over the rest of the world, it produces the most favorable health outcomes for the offspring, and maintains a close knit societal bond.
Polygamous societies are always hedonistic and dysfunctional, they don't produce high trust based cultures, and disease grows rampant.
Furthermore, Hypergamous or Polygamous structures always narrow the gene pool, to where yes, theoretically you're selecting the highest performing males (Which just isn't true in most cases), but the gene pool grows smaller, meaning recessive genes and so fourth are more likely.
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>>524512732
Women go to blacks and immigrants there is no issue.
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>>524513759
I agree with you. However, this seems to be an idea that has not caught on red pill environments. I think it may have to do with these areas being anti-marriage because they don't see the value and how incongruent it is where benefits women. But if you are to marry under this system, it would make sense. It's beneficial for it to be with multiple women and they are officially yours and women will want men with assets or status then it always has been the case

If you look through history, it is not a resurgence of a new idea or behavior. It's always been like this. It's just now we have Force monogamy in marriage when it didn't used to be. This way we're trying to go against nature
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>>524512732
Yes, instead of fixing the problem, we shall just make the return to primitive barbarism official.
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>>524512732

The problem is that you think ENTITLED westernized women want to share. They walk around demanding PRINCESS treatment and marriage just so they can divorce your ass. Polygamy works but you're going to have to get a passport and go to where cost of living is much lower and where women are still traditional (away from the big cities). Philippines, thailand, vietnam -- in the small villages. In some of the muslim cultures in those countries, they do take multiple wives, multiple babymamas.
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>>524512732
Truth.

No other great ape species lives monogamously.

Cheating is rampant in humans. If we were naturally monogamous, this wouldn't be the case.
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>>524513951
In what era of human history has this not been the case. People such as like kings emperors and people of high status literally had multiple wives very frequently. Women desired such men. It's human instinct to have a provider a person with high status and as well it could be appearance. If the person is able to provide for them, why not?

Right now what we're having is where we essentially creating a prohibition of alcohol and then everybody's drinking alcohol and secret and it does not work

So you have all these things where people have informal relationships which they call like situationships and it has no commitment or growth at all as they jump from person to person instead of just establishing what somebody that is like a provider and then we have more stability in society
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>>524513850
Which societies that we're very successful outlawed polygamy in all cases in history. I would like to hear
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>>524512732
If that was True then wouldn't your dad be a chad? So genetically you should be a chad too if your dad was the top 1% in the world capable of having sex
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>>524512978
Subhuman niggers practiced that shit. Anthropologists are also able to look at are DNA and see if we’re pologomous or not and DNA evidence shows we’re mainly monogamous.
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>>524514008
It would simply be optional. It does not mean that you'd be forced to do it yourself. For example, the current Syrian president. I have read about him and he only has one wife and he has always only had one wife but then you know there's other people that have multiple wives. And I'm not trying to use Islam as a example. I don't want to live under Islam.

Just the case that if a person is able to provide financially then yeah they can go for that to have multiple wives. Or if you want to do your example of go to a lower-class society with cheaper cost and do it then. Yeah you have freedom of movement. I agree that with higher cost of living today as an inflation, income inequality and difficulty to advance up the ladder would make it harder to do this today than in previous eras
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>>524514354
Which societies that were successful outlawed this entirely?
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If hypergamy was "human nature" you would expect it to be the norm across cultures but it wasn't. Modern western hypergamy is both the general exception and entirely the result of progressivism and it's skewing of the sexual marketplace.

The reason why the "bottom 80%" even exists in the first place is because they carry some qualities worthy of reproduction for the past 180 million years. Before progressivism, a man who is not tall/pretty would still mate because he was good with money or reliable or intelligent or whatever. Therefore, majority of men who would procreate would have something to bring to the next generation, enabling every generation to have its artists, engineers, mathematicians, models, athletes etc.

Under a progessive system, all fruits of male labor are taken by the state and given to the women for free, with the only thing state can't steal being their physicall appearance. So all that inequality is now skewed in favor of only men who can protect their advantages (and women still complain about chads being "assholes" for not always slaving to their interests)

We live in a system which is effectively the Handmaid's tale for men, where the "bottom" 80% of men work to support the 20% of male breeders who only have to be physically above average (usually dick size, face and height) to reproduce but are still subservient to women who call all the shots. Like I said, effectively Handmaid's tale for men. That's neither natural nor normal for our species and is 100% result of state violence.

And the few cultures which did have some form of polygamy were expansionist (like Islam) so majority of men still get to have some pussy by taking it from conquered lands (or new converts if we're talking solely in religious terms)
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>>524514332
I mean we frequently see today that women settle down per se with a lower class person and it wasn't their ideal dream person. But they settle for practicality of being financially stable and being able to build a family. But they would prefer that person to be of a higher status if possible or more financially savvy. Just the opportunity may not have come available for them.

Now there is people that remain with some form of loyalty regardless. Which is how we have people in careers who will remain at the same place of employment for a very long time and there are other people that climb the stairs. Looking for higher opportunities of advancement. A lot of variety in this. But that's why I'm saying that it would not be mandatory to simply optional
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>>524514428
Which societies have sincerely outlawed taping children? Bad things are going to happen doesn’t mean we have to tolerate them. Fact is we were monotonous based on DNA evidence. Fuck off faggot.
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>>524514332
Also, what we condition ourselves in our societies to view as traumatic or view as painful makes events significantly worse.

For example, in Western countries, the PTSD levels are significantly higher than actual war-torn countries and this is not simply due to availability of medication and mental health treatment. There has been blind studies where they will literally conduct the interviews themselves with people and control for many factors and they still find higher rates in the west

And it's kind of like in the west. We're just more neurotic than those areas and we are so like informed about these subjects that we find very trivial. Things are so dramatic and painful when in other places they kind of just move forward from it and it doesn't really trash their stability despite them going through more bad things

And in our society we are so pushed into monogamy that the smallest infraction of a partner, which understandably so people should make loyalty, is absolutely devastating to people and they reached the point of even desiring to commit suicide

In a different alternative society, it wouldn't be so devastating mentally to have such a thing. But of course with that I'm not encouraging hedonism at all and people like cheating on each other. But the conditioning of how bad this is and how it breaks your honor devastates people and that's why suicide rates are so high in divorces cause it's so shameful to be like divorced
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>>524512732
The issue is that if it was legalized, Jamal would have to face legal consequences and that's frankly unacceptable.
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>>524512732
Polygamy (polygyny, really) is a more primitive society though. Monogamy empowers more men which results in more great minds, creations and national wealth.

Polygamy is essentially what we have now as monogamy is pretty much dead. Everyone (that fucks) fucks multiple people, no one really stays together. It’s a hot mess and the result is the selfishness, the isolation, the gender wars etc.
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>>524514698
We currently do tolerate it in the west informally. Traditional societies even today they don't even allow this informal dating that we do literally for sexual reasons and hedonism. Many people in the west today they date not for the goal of marriage and producing a family but due to lust and wanting a fun time and we find this acceptable

So how is a marriage worse than this approach? At least it involves a long-term commitment as opposed to these flings and short-term things with no long-term plans.

What we have now is like people are becoming soldiers in a military without an actual contract and they can just leave the army at any moment that they want without any explanation and without any discussion or even punishment. That's not how our society works at all. We understand that committing yourself to defending your country is something that requires you providing skin in the game to demonstrate that dedicated contractually

So why not the same for a relationship that it will require a marriage
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>>524514849
Well right now what we have is an informal way of doing things where people are literally engaging with anybody that they want in sexual activity and considering themselves relationships with absolutely no strings attached

If people want to do this, it would be better to make them need to enter a contractual marriage instead. What we have right now is we are calling it monogamy where people have a boyfriend and girlfriend and when they jump around to another person, it's absolutely devastating for the person emotionally and it's considered cheating because of the way we view the relationships

If instead we set it up where they commit to a person long-term. It would be better and if multiple women like want a guy they could set it up this way instead of all this jumping around which is very hedonistic and unstable. Because as of now, even people that are like promiscuous look down upon a concept of literally dating to people at once. But they will happily sleep with like different people every single week which is the same thing but actually way worse

It's like everybody is a gig worker where they just show up and do a different job every single day for cash money instead of actually committing to a job
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I want to hear counter arguments to this
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>>524514836
And this would be a good thing. Instead of Jamal having like three baby mamas where it's all separated instantly and then you have all these domestic problems
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>>524512732
Polygamy doesn't work. And neither does polyamory. All you get is a smaller gene pool to the point where you eventually have to rely on pure incest to survive. By that point there'd be so many mutations from the lack of diversity that the entire population would be retarded and eventually infertile.
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Bump
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>>524512732
Seriously, I would have 8 times as many kids if they brought it back, you all complain about the birth rates but then don't want the actual solutions. I want 8 wives, 88 children, and I feel like you should all support me politically on this.
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>>524515773
In ancient societies, a much smaller percentage of men reproduced compared to women, with DNA studies suggesting rates like 40% of men vs. 80% of women, and even more extreme ratios like 1 man for every 17 women in certain eras after agriculture, meaning many men died without having biological children, while most women did. This disparity, caused by factors like high male competition and social structures, means that even in populations with equal numbers of males and females, the gene pool reflects far more maternal than paternal lineages.
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>>524512808
of course there are ways, theyre known for 2000 years dumbfuck
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>>524512732
Nope. Western civilization is more important than a handful of dudes larping a harem. Adultery should be punished by death. Kill the hedonists and society will fix itself.
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The strangest thing about these threads is that they're posted by fat ugly feminists from the Cafe. Women have this weird idea that if they're exclusionary, it will somehow increase their value. But a fat feminist chick's value will always be zero.
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>>524515847
Here are articles about this btw

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/through-history-more-women-have-reproduced-men-180952840/
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>>524515847
You have spammed this same info over and over and it has been debunked and denied. Go live in africa with the niggers, you fat feminist whore.
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>>524515952
Adultery would mean the person is not your wife. Through polygamy this would not be adultery you would be committed to the person
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>>524516005
It has not been debunked at all. It's literally a fact that in previous societies more women had children than men.
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>>524515952
>Kill the hedonists
Lmao, what the fuck is headonistic about having 8 wives, have you spent any time with women? You should be looking at those of us willing to do it as taking one of the team.
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>>524515847
>muh less men more women myth
Not true. The reason for that is because most men died in wars and accidents from labor. Today that's no longer the case as fewer men do dangerous things and there are no more wars. If one man gets 8 wives most men will be left to die out. Which would mean the gene pool shrinks to the point where genetic diversity becomes moot. If you look at semitic societies who support the same thing, most people are inbred. Inbreeding only works for a limited time. Eventually it's gonna destroy your genes.
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>>524516071
How is this a myth if it is literally what happened?
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>>524515952
ok then stop fucking virgins before marriage
if one fuckboys can degenerate society by having premartial sex which is also against religion
it means someone else can breed mutiple women, you want to play this stupid game then everyone will do whatever the fuck they want
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>>524513656
Not true at all, at least not in this country.
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>>524516071
Semitic societies encourage inbreeding this is not what I am discussing at all. You can continue to have cousin marriage outlawed under this

And those countries they decide upon that because they want to be familiar with the person that is going to be marrying their daughter. It is not due to a scarcity and a lack of men. The family would still prefer that cousin due to knowing them since their childhood

I myself do not want cause in marriage at all or incest that is not what I am encouraging in any form nor do I see it as in inevitability. Women in those societies have options beyond their cousins in men desiring them
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>>524516116
>that's literally what happened
Because people claim it's because women left men to die. They didn't. Men died by their own hands, women weren't hpyergamous. That's the difference. Now we no longer have to be, and if we continue to do it the gene pool will continue to shrink and average intellect and susceptiblity to disease will increase.
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>>524516315
What is your evidence that women were not hypergamous in previous societies in their desires
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>>524515404
Only idiots will want to get contractually attached to any women in this joke of a society where you have no rights as a man except to be robbed, stomped and leeched on by the foids.
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I feel like the mongs talking about less men procreating earlier ignores the whole army pillages and rapes as it conquers territory angle. Its not because they had multiple wives.
Also if you make it super overt incels will literally just start killing married guys, look at north africa lmao.
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>>524512867
>>524512823
>>524512808
>>524512732
Women have already crippled men from becoming powerful people who would own harams because they are taxed too hard. So basically OP is asking for some good looking chad based harams that beta males are forced to pay for so that adult child women can be excited by this situation for a second before their eternal boredom begins again. Ah yes what a good idea, we really need fat whores to have their excitement at all costs right? Someone explain anything wrong about what I just said. The reason people aren't breeding is that its too expensive to pay for all the fake jobs for women and brown people, thats it, it's not because women need to be in harams owned by "real men" who "check all the boxes".
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>>524516422
Right, marriage needs to be properly reformed in the laws because right now they are fully to the advantage of women. We need to change this so it's a leveled playing field. Then it doesn't benefit them to this extent at all. Return to previous setups of marriages

I agree with you currently it's entirely unfair
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>>524512732
>Feminism is ending our civilization
>Is the solution to double down and be even more feminist and anti-male?
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>>524516419
>what's your evidence
What's yours? My evidence is the fact that men fought in wars and did all the work. The increased mortality meant that a lot of men never got to reproduce as boys would begin fighting as soon as their balls dropped. If people of the past lived the way we do now we would never have existed because humanity would've been extinct by now. lol
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>>524516559
This is the definition of hypergamous that I find

>Hypergamy, or "marrying up," is the social tendency for individuals, often women, to seek partners with higher social status, wealth, education, or other desirable traits (like height or strength) than themselves, aiming to improve their own standing or security, though it's also seen in men seeking physical attractiveness; it's rooted in historical dependency but remains a factor in modern mating, with debated prevalence and impacts on relationships and society

I believe women have always functioned with this mindset and this value system. Currently I'm not going to link anything at all, but I first want to hear. Do you believe that in previous societies women did not think this way and women did not want this because I believe they did, but I would like to hear your explanation if you disagree
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harems already exist, in the worst possible form
through single mothers, where the breeder doesnt care and leaves her while the entire society pays for the single mother welfare via taxes, lol
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>>524516554
How is polygamy anti-mail? The societies that have it they make it so it's the man that can do it not the woman. I am not saying for women to be able to marry multiple men. Only men be able to marry multiple women
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>>524513605
Wow 10 famous rappers! This extrapolates out!
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>>524512732
the default of human nature? maybe. but its not the default of human civilization. even civilizations that practiced polygamy it was rare and mostly monogamous relationships. we havent had a mostly polygamous relationship because the majority of men would not be motivated to contribute.
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>>524516660
>equates marrying up to selecting what's left
You're retarded.
> believe women have always functioned with this mindset and this value system
Then you've been deceived. Hard.
>Do you believe that in previous societies women did not think this way and women did not want this because I believe they did
They didn't. Most women were virgins, and they protected it to secure the purity of their offspring. Now most women lose their virginity long before they even get married. Why do you think marriage even exists if it never mattered? Are you actually this dense?
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>>524516668
Right exactly. They exist through single mothers because there is no marriage in commitment whatsoever. It's just guys knocking up women and having what they refer to as multiple baby mamas in the west. Which is completely hedonistic because they typically produce this child with no commitment and no long-term plans, just having sex for lustful reasons

With a commitment the people would have a long-term plan and they have entered into a marriage with an understanding of desiring stability and I assume that women would seek out a person that can at least somewhat provide if they're going to be multiple ones with the same man as it would be very difficult for some guy who works at freaking McDonald's cashier to handle this.

So I am not encouraging that it would be mandatory at all, just simply an option. Because as of now yes as you say harems exist but they're very informal with no ability to cause them to be a commitment

While monogamy still allows for commitment because we have the availability of marriage even if people are not pursuing it fully as they are often enter into a so-called relationship through hedonistic reasons. Instead of wanting to produce a child, many children are produced by accident

Which is why in Western society we had needed so much contraceptives because people have sex. Oftentimes just for fun with people so they need to prevent a child because they don't want a child
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>>524516668
Exactly, so change the law so I can have them all under one roof
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>>524512978

The reason more female diversity shows up in our current DNA has to do with how our ancestral migration patterns and marriage markets were organised, not necessarily a small group of men monopolising all toilets.

https://nuancepill.substack.com/p/was-polygyny-widespread-in-history

Toilets moved around from tribe to tribe, while men stayed in their original tribe. This is why it appears that we have significantly more foremothers than forefathers.
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Women are already sharing men, they just arent in relationships with those men.

Kevin Samuels showed this as a growing trend about 10yrs ago.
Rest in peace God Father.
Anons look him up, he used the black community as an example, but the message he espoused is universal for all men.
Christ is King.
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>>524516020
Wrong. The only correct definition of marriage involves only one man and one woman. Any perversion of marriage should result in execution.
>>524516063
>what the fuck is headonistic about having 8 wives
What a stupid fucking question. Die.
>>524516139
>ok then stop fucking virgins before marriage
Do you expect me to disagree with this? are you retarded? Die.
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>>524516468
The reason that birth rates are low in the west. It is not due to the style of living being expensive or housing or health care. If you review countries with strong welfare systems and Scandinavian areas, their birth rates are absolutely pathetic

Birth rates go down through women's rights. Increasing societies becoming more atomized where people are very individualistic and where child labor is like completely outlawed because then children become a hindrance financially instead of beneficial

The poor societies actually tend to have more children as opposed to richer one. Same as poor people tend to have more children cuz poor people tend to have worse sex education to know how to protect themselves and prevent and unplanned child. Same as in those much poor societies. They allow child labor

Then you have countries such as in central Asia like Kazakhstan which have a strong family system where literally even grandparents live with them and everybody's very close together and there's an honor culture

You can also review places like Israel. The most secular Israelis have a very low birth rate, but the most religious ones their birth rate is insanely high

But then you have some societies like Iran that have a very low birth rate despite high religiousness because the women are very highly educated and Iran probably has the highest rate of women having a college degree out of any country which is not expected by people, but that hurts their birth rate despite women having a lack of rights to an extent, but they seek out education and Independence
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Test
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>>524513605
David haye, andrew tate, that blue guy. Yes. Right off the top of my head, it’s black (/half white) guys with the hypergamy. White men are still being cucked by cuckstianity.

Though with that said. Monogamy really is the superior system for a society. But for creating your own nation, just like Abraham created the israelites, hypergamy is how you do it. It’s your genes so they are much more cooperative elements with each other.
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>>524516315
The real issue isn't even the gene pool but the social instability from young men who can't fulfill their prime directive to reproduce. Shit's bad enough as it is and it'd only get worse.
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>>524517049
Right, I agree that women are sharing men without a commitment. I stated that in the original post that they're doing this informally and that's significantly worse

Because we are operating in a society where we are telling ourselves that we are only under monogamy but we're not. We're only offering the opportunity for monogamous commitment but not for polygony commitment

So you end up with this thing that people jump from one person to another instead of having a stability where they may have multiple partners together in a long-term commitment with long-term plans

As you said with black communities what you will have is that a guy with like multiple baby mamas as they referred to and they're not committed to any of them and it just produces domestic problems and a lot of instability. It would be better if there was a commitment to this through marriage and have it be organized
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>>524517136
>hypergamy

I mean’t polygyny. (Polyandry isn’t really a thing).
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>>524516944
Okay I appreciate the article. I'm going to read it now. Like I'm open to hearing other perspectives. I do want to read other things
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>>524512732
Go ahead and run for office with that policy. A psychosexual woman will shoot your ass, retard.
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>>524517256
Yeah but a shrinking gene pool is also bad because you can never recover from it. You'll end up like the arabs and when 70% of the population is related you might as well end it because at that point everyone is too retarded to wipe their own ass.
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>>524516852
There are current polygamous societies that women do protect their virginity. This is done in current Islamic societies where women are able to marry a man in a grouping with multiple ones and due to religious fears and what they have instilled in them, they do attempt to maintain virginity

I'm sure some person here is going to reply to this comment with like some slutty Muslim woman. And yeah of course there is some. But on average with their society promotes with a lack of informal dating culture. It's going to produce more virgins that stay for a longer time.

Now with that said I don't want Islam do not like Islam and I don't see it as a requirement for polygamy to be an option. I just simply provide it as a counter to you saying that a polygamy society would discourage virginity
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>>524512867
women dont want to make babies, has nothing to do with anyone but they themselves. stop simping and being retarded, morons.

women just want an excuse to be bigger whores out in the open. its all so tiresome.
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>>524512732
>and make it acceptable socially
It's already acceptable socially.
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>>524517530
No, it is not acceptable in society to have a polygamous marriage. I don't know about Russia but western societies. It's typically illegal to marry two people at the same time in the United States. It is in European countries that I have searched is illegal for them too

What people have are informal relationships where it's no strings attached. They can't get engaged with two people are getting married. They can only do this with a singular person and it's discouraged in society and looked down upon

So you end up people doing it in secret kind of like when there's alcohol prohibitions but people still drink the same amount with no regulations
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here. its over. its completely over. for everyone in the west and the people who dont make babies ARE WOMEN. WOMEN MAKE BABIES. THEY DONT WANT TO BE MOTHERS. THEY WANT TO BE WHORES...................
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>>524517504
Yes. Arabic ones, and they're all inbred. Arabs have a small gene pool and their intelligence is declining fast. Arabs should not be a model for whites. That's suicide. You're basically arguing for extinction with extra steps.
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>>524512978
yes and all those peoples experienced societal collapse. monogamous marriages and property rights (including the ownership of your wife and children) is what led to the rise of the white race.
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PLS LET ME BE THE WHORE OUT IN THE OPEN FOR CHAMPAIGN CHAD ON HIS YACHT I WONT MAKE BABIES REGARDLESS.
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>>524516852
Don’t be a retard. Monogamy is an imposed system. Don’t impose the system and let natural law rule we get harems. Because women will just gravitate to the guys with houses and food and protection. Women can’t provide for themselves. Most that would have to wouldn’t be able to simultaneously reproduce.

It’s even a pervasive female strategy to marry a betabuxx with a stable home and cheat to produce chad babies under said beta’s roof.
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>>524517464
Muslim societies do the cousin marriage due to it not being outlawed in their Quran and literally their former leaders of their religion doing it and families prefer it because they know that cousin and they watch them grow up. They have a very tribal and clan mentality

If you speak to young Muslim women in these type of countries, they have plenty of options to date. Men who are like not their cousins. They get pushed into it or they are just familiar with this person

You can continue to have cousin marriage outlawed and have polygamy at the same time. It doesn't need to come in line together. They are not doing cousin marriage out of desperation. They literally want it even if you've removed. Polygamy

And like I said before I don't want cousin marriage and I am against IslamAnd like I said before I don't want cuz in marriage and I am against Islam
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>>524517672
The reason they are in bread does not have to do with it being a polygamist society read here

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>>524516893
women dont need providers anymore they will breed the most retarded fucks then search for some beta enabler or marry the government, or maybe even pay it through their favorite jewish daycare (corporation, onlyfans, etc)

ban abortion
ban condoms, anti conception, etc
ban welfare for single mothers

women should FEAR having sex with random retards, they should be forced to marry, sex outside marriage should be as dangerous as possible, single mothers should become homeless to make example for others
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>>524517757
Then civilization would die. Communal breeding and polygamy leads to ruin. 100%. Everything whites have built will crumble and turn to ash.

*puts hands together*
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>>524517879
Inbred*
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Why would the harem men agree to this if it means the women they leave behind with their kids are no longer married to the State?
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>>524517515
Are you saying rape is an option?
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>>524517725
You can have ownership of your wife and children through polygamy. Like I have never discussed women having this option. Only men being able to marry multiple women. This does not remove anything in regards to a men's ownership of them and as well marriage needs to be reformed so it's not so pro-feminist and benefiting women. It needs to return to older generations where the law is more on the man's side financially and in rights

But like I said, I don't like Islam. That's not what I'm trying to promote at all. And I don't see how it is polygamy that destroyed societies
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>>524517832
>cousin marriage
Not the only problem. Polygamy in itself shrinks the gene pool the most because one man can hoard all the women for himself. It's the capitalist argument all over again whereby one man with enough money can just buy all the food the village produces and leave everyone else to die. It doesn't work. Get over it.

>>524517879
It does. It contributes to it because that's how polygamy works. Women are a resource, if you don't distribute it properly you end up with a smaller gene pool. That's a mathematical fact. It doesn't take a genius to know that.
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>>524517897
I agree women should not be having sex outside of marriage in an ideal society and that women should be discouraged from doing so. This is not a disagreement that I have with you at all

We are on the same page. I'm the one promoting polygamy by the way. Only for men not women
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>>524517964
Can you explain further so I can understand how you perceive this?
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>>524517757
WOMEN DONT WANT TO MAKE BABIES YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>524518110
No the reason that Islamic countries do cause in marriage it has nothing to do with polygamy. It's literally encouraged in their Quran as Muhammad married cousins. These people can marry One singular person for life and it may still be their cousin and it often is it is not due to the reason of scarcity and a lack of options. You are literally wrong

You are making it so that it means that these people are simply married their cousins because there's a lack of men and this is not a reality. You can talk to Muslim women. They will tell you that they have options of men and it is that their family encourages them into this specific person because they grew up around these children and they know them well and they want to maintain wealth within the family as well

These areas have absolutely nothing to do with polygamy. You are conflating multiple issues together.
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>>524518323
Do cousin marriage*.

By the way, my spelling in this is bad because I'm using speech to text. It's not because I am some ESL Indian
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>>524518027
polygamy causes inbreeding like other anons have said, it also causes an unfair distribution of women which causes societal strife among men. polygamy is a very stupid, very primitive idea that should be suppressed.
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women would be making babies if they wanted to. stop coping.

everybody is a nigger now. its over you fucking idiots lol.
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>>524512732
Polygamy without constant wars creates unstable societies where you have a massive amount of aggrieved men not only not contributing, but actively working towards the downfall of said society. This is currently happening in the west despite everything being put into damage control by our kiked elites.
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>>524518110
Also, if you are discouraging competition and you're saying that this is a capitalist problem then are you saying that you are a person who is anti-capitalist and you're a socialist?

Because yeah if a business can grow it should be allowed to it should not be hindered. Are you saying that you are against polygamy as it can grow a person having multiple resources and for this same reason you are against businesses growing and you want them all to be small? Because then this is a very unique disagreement that I did not expect
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>>524518165
thats the thing, you cant force them to stay virgins, instead you need to make it as dangerous as possible, diseases, no support from government, social shaming, woman having sex without a ring should feel as bad as a man experiencing warfare, literally the entire law should work towards making sex dangerous not harmless fun, with tons of lifetime consequences, currently its the total opposite
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>>524518212
They don't. And nothing can make them because ''rape is le bad'' so it's over.

>>524518323
>you are wrong
No I'm not. You're using cousin marriage as a shield for the obvious fact that polygamy ALSO leads to inbreeding and a shrunken gene pool. My parents and great grandparents didn't marry out of some desire for prestige. Most people don't. If we did we'd all be dead because guess what? Most people aren't that prestigious. So if you give the prestigious all the reproductive power you end up with a bunch of inbreds. That's a fact. Stop beating around the bush and play dumb.
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>>524512732
>>524518509
And by the way, the solution to this that will once again soon come to pass is women's rights being taken away.
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>>524518430
It literally does not cause inbreeding. You can maintain this being outlawed where people literally cannot marry their cousins and then there's nothing you can do about it

What you will have is informal dating as you have now where people are in relationships and they are not committed whatsoever by law. That can happen no matter what it is happening right now where women are sleeping with like 20 men and you have Jamal with three baby mamas that is not what I am encouraging

I am saying polygamy being option through marriage and keep cousin marriage illegal. And like I said previously having polygamy available. Does that mean everybody's going to do it

Even the islamist terrorist Syrian president who has high status has been married to the same woman for 20 years and he hasn't desired another women despite it being available
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>>524518212
No shit. It’s because we treat them like humans when in reality they are primitive subhumans from a bygone era, fallen behind evolutionarily because we have protected them from all hardship and self-sufficiency for too long.

All of our morals are made-up. There’s no reason why the zeitgeist cannot see women as objects and plain resources to be properly apportioned, allocated and traded, without the foibles of believing they should be treated with “equality” of any kind, when they are not even capable of existing under the same conditions.
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>>524512732
This is already kind of happening. The difference is that no babies are being born. Modern "dating" is just 5-10% men fucking all the women. Bringing back polygamy won't solve the problem, because those few men wouldn't want a legal obligation to take care of those women and have children with them.

I don't think you understand the scale: polygamists would have one 5-10 wives with children that they'd have to provide for. The men killing it in the dating market are fucking multiple new girls every week and moving on with zero responsibility.

You would not give that up. Your society is fucked and your religion has failed. Your men are weak and your women are whores.

This is why we will easily replace you without a fight.
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>>524518563
Currently in our society people are freely dating whoever they want and participating in hypergamy where they will scale up to different men and people will have short-term relationships of even 1 month, 2 months, one night stands and so on.

You are implying that by legalizing polygamy it's going to somehow make things more degenerate when they actually are extremely degenerate as of now. I want it to be that people are committed to enter into relationships where it's a more traditional society, not this where everybody's sleeping around

Making it illegal has done nothing to help at all. People are literally doing it despite it being illegal simply without the marriage portion
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>>524518511
>are you a socialist
No. But I ain't a capitalist either. No economic system works for the same way that polygamy doesn't work. That's why the west has mixed economies and tries to balance the two ideas out. Because both have strengths and weaknesses and both are imperfect. My argument on resources is bullet proof. You can't deny that loopholes like that is stupid and won't work in the longrun.
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>>524518576
Hopefully, yeah
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>>524518212
Reminds me how it's incredibly funny that openly anti-natalist women on social media use terms like "genetic dead-end" towards men
I've also seen xitter accounts like "why South Korea has lowest birthrates in the world" dedicated to showing misogyny from Korean men, like that's too funny, since when are these feminists so concerned about birth rates? Past societies with high fertility were far more "misogynistic" by their standards
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>>524518604
anon, polygamy in the west will come pre-packaged with feminism, there will be no "strictly regulated" polygamous marriage system, it is dysgenic and inherently disempowering to men. it's a disastrous system from every angle.
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>>524518756
I mean I agree with you. I prefer a mixed economy as well. I believe a absolute capitalist economy is just going to lead to monopolies and turn into some ancap meme which is not good. There should be an inclusion of welfare and capitalism mixed together and regulations as wel

I see societies such as yours as ideal economically
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>>524518837
Right, the most important part is reforming marriage in itself. Right now it benefits women way too much in courts financially and legally. I agree. That's the root of the problem without question right now how things are set up. There's very little motivation to even enter a marriage. If you are a male because how much it benefits a woman it ends up just being a piece of paper where they can take off your stuff. I'm with you on that completely
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>>524518752
>Making it illegal has done nothing to help at all. People are literally doing it despite it being illegal simply without the marriage portion
There are no legal reprercussions for cheating. It's why marriage has become nothing but a larp. That's not a good thing. Just because society is burning down doesn't mean it's a good thing, nor that we should embrace our downfall.
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>>524512732
Yes, (((they))) actually try to go this route with promoting troonysm. The first troons that were given to society were failures, but the new ones will be the replacement for these 80% of men who cannot get pussy, from which of course troons will arise for the others.
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>>524518958
Yeah I agree there should be consequences for cheating and there should be restrictions created like before because as of now yeah women can just claim to be some type of victim and screw the guy over while divorcing when she actually did something quite bad and he can't actually do anything and he may get a domestic violence charge a restraining order and all kinds of messy things for responding to what she did. That was terrible

Yeah the root of the problem is how marriage is set up in the west is just disastrous that needs to be taken care of first
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>imbecile is so pathetically sexless he thinks i have five girlfriends at once
No, you fucking imbecile. I date a chick until I get bored of her, then I move on to the next one. Sometimes they break it off because I won't marry them. This month I had five dates with five different women, all of whom hadn't dated in the previous two months to a year, whereas I had dated six different women in the preceding 14 months.

This is why you can't breed or even occasionally just fuck, you're a fucking literal retard.
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>>524518880
I don't like a mixed economy either because money as a concept is fundamentally anti-white. Whites are high-trust peoples. Money is low-trust by default. It's all centered around the idea of not trusting the other in an exchange. The ideal would be some Aryan contractual system but that's never gonna happen. Our healthcare system is still better than it is in the United States, whether you like socialism or not.
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>>524512732
it's now 5%
it was 20% 10 years ago
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>>524512732
That would just collapse society more rapidly though. Muslim countries are shitty for a reason.
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>>524519058
You are part of the problem doing this. Continuing to participate and uncommitted relationships and hopping from one to another. This is the same thing as never building a career and continually switching jobs. You yourself are participating in hypergamy by not retaining stability. You can do whatever you want but this is not making society better and it's not helping you

Because each time you have to rebuild with a person, introduce yourself, get to know each other and it's not going anywhere. Or even worse, you don't even want to get to know them. You don't want to build a family, you don't want to do nothing and you're just doing it for pure hedonism in the same reason that a person would inject methamphetamine or drink alcohol. It's literally completely pointless. You're not going to pass down your bloodline you're not going to become a father. You're not going to establish a family whatsoever

What are you actually accomplishing by trying to date different women every single month besides the equal of doing drugs for a high? At best you're trying to display to other people that you have the ability to do it and you are attractive. But beyond that what are you doing?
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>>524519056
The whole problem is that marriage is ownership and we're not allowed to own a woman anymore. They've become intellectual property like games and movies. When you buy those things you're not buying the product but a license to borrow that product. Women have become that, so marriage has become redundant because declaration of ownership without ownership is just playing pretend.
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>>524519058
You are also establishing the emotion of boredom which is being in what would be called the default Network mentally, which is when there's not chaos going on and you're just calm with the need to jump to another person when that does not mean you need to do this

You're pretty much seeking chaos and excitement all the time. Like a roller coaster or a drug. This is not how things work, a relationship or a career can involve having routine type things going on and just ability. You take that as you need to exit the thing. This is very feminine current behavior that is made fun of with women in being promiscuous. You should rethink why you do this and evaluate yourself. I feel you're going to want to insult me for saying this to you, but you should take it to heart and see why you continue to jump from person to person. There's something going on with you and that's okay
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>>524519219
Yeah, you're completely right the phrase that people use of she's not yours. It's just your turn. It's not necessarily that this needs to be a reality. It's that how our legal system has been set up. What is shamed in society and what is encouraged has created that to be a reality

Where a woman can exit a relationship with absolutely no consequences or you as a male even end up with consequences for attempting to establish any type of consequences yourself


So yeah, an intellectual property is a good example or like buying a video game online in the company can still take it from you at any point. Hopefully something happens one day and this changes who knows. Just hope this is a disaster
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>>524519103
Yeah absolutely. Your health system is immensely better. The American health system is a complete joke the way it's set up.
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>>524519494
Exactly. Imagine buying a car and having a whole ritual around it. Only to then lose it the next morning on your way to work as some guy drives off with it because hey, it was never yours. Would you still wanna buy a car if that could happen over 90% of the time? Hell no. Marriage is over.
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>>524519671
I fully agree
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>>524518189
Nowadays the perceived top men can have harems and leave the women behind with the kids because the State pays for _everything_. The women can often go with this willingly because the women get more freedom too to not be stuck with the father if they don't wish to, so they won't reveal the father's name to authorities and often proceed to receive even more money.

If the harem was legal and expected, then the men fooling around with these (now) single mothers would suddenly have to take up some responsibilities. And the women would lose autonomy from not being able to single mother around.

Tl;dr: The harem men in the west would have nothing to gain from making the harems official, only downsides really.
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>>524513014
It's not. The late medieval libtard regime categorically refuses to recognize my second and my third wife's basic human right to marry me. It happily recognizes marriages between siblings and troons and kids and dogs and Japanese cartoon holograms. Only marriages between mentally healthy men and women with the purpose of having children are "impossible" and "immoral".
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What a fake AstroTurfed shill thread full of lies and misinformation and well poisoning
I hope you all die
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>>524520053
Thank you for explaining. I can see your points and why this would make senseThank you for explaining. I can see your points and why this would make sense
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>>524518880
monopoly is already banned in capitalism, there are anti-monopolist laws in place
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>>524519058
so you end up ruining multiple women, waste their time, waste their eggs cycles, you are stupid fuck really, you dont even see the problem, youre slave to the pussy
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Yes
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Angie Varona... here old pictures when she was 15-16 were the best.
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>>524512732
Her BBC vids are insane
Idk how she fit some of em...
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>>524521900
Her nipples are absolutely disgusting if this is who I think it is
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Holy shit can you newfags on Christmas vacation please read the stickied post re: "Appeal to Nature"
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>>524522355
You are thinking of Sophie rain. Different girl
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>>524522355
dunno
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>>524520279
Based stroke anon.
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>>524522420
No her whole tit situation is abhorrent, lemme check this one i think its cause she had that kid.
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>>524512732
what good of hypergamy if there are no children. What is the point of implementing polygamy if there will be only pajeets left?
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>>524520053
>Nowadays the perceived top men can have harems
if polygamy becomes real it will be women who will have harems, not men. There are more simps and cucks who will agree to share a woman then there will be women who will agree to share a man. Historical example of rich men owning women was different because of a womans place in society at the time as something to be owned.
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>>524523185
But do the women have any use for a math where for example 5 loyal beta simps equal to 1 chad they can't get or maybe could get but it's hard?
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>>524516048
No even that specific article mentions that it only applied for a small bottleneck.
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>Better to just formalize it and make it acceptable socially.

Ingenious! Lets get the 80% of men who don't have wives to defend the rights of Chad who has multiple ones. I'm sure they will love to do that for Chad (and not outnumber and kill him instead and take his wives for a partner as usual).
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>>524522407
It's not even about that, but the inevitability of it. Liberalism is letting nature take over.
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the solution is incel uprising as incels have nothing to lose anyways
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>>524523185
>if polygamy becomes real it will be women who will have harems, not men

You’re a moron. Try thinking about it a little deeper than surface level. Even as we speak there are many more men with harems than women.
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>>524526367
it's even stupider than that. chad doesn't tell these holes they have competition - they always suspect (all women suspect even if you are married lol). women just need more protection from themselves - they are effectively children at some level
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The Bible suggest polygamy is the proper way

Paul said only priests should have one wife, and women used this to produce gnostic dialogue for monogamy
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>>524512808
>thats not how america became great
Whereas that might be true, it nevertheless might be a reasonable to adapt the law to suit the stage of empire that you find yourself in. America is a late-stage decaying empire, polygamy might ameliorate something which simply wasn't present to be ameliorated back when america became great. Be smart. Engage with reality.
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>>524526594
Most men don't care that much about pussy. I'm not tard wrangling a bitch anyway, I'd rather pay a prostitute, but I'm through with that. It's all so overrated. Not throwing my life away when I got GAMES and COMFINESS.
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>>524526464
nature is men cooperating to divide and socially enforce mates and families in order to build and maintain society. what's not natural is allowing women to do what they want despite their physical and (at the top end) intellectual inferiority, and allowing society to collapse as a result.
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>>524512732
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>>524516921
>t. nigger brains
The better option would be to start removing hedonistic subhuman baboons from gene pool.
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>>524526854
I don't think our prehistoric ancestors practiced life-long monogamy. Women probably tended to the children together and men were doing their own things, but were of course taking women along with them. It was probably serial monogamy with low paternal involvement or complete promiscuity with no one knowing who's a father to what child.
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>>524512732
I’ve watched so much porn I’ve become desensitized to beautiful women
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>>524527565
That's good. Attraction to women is self-destructive.
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>>524520146
I hope you die too.
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>>524512732
They do, friend. Wealthy men move through trophy wives for 50 years, 3 or 4 as a rule. As many as they can afford.
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>>524512732
Yes, let’s become more like (checks history) niggers and dunecoons.
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>>524512732

In a lot of the world this is the legal norm, like the muslin countries, but even there, you see that polygamy is not that common. Why? Ironically, women can't stand that shit.

I saw an interview in Indonesia asking people in the street about this, and half the guys were OK with it but all the women were hard against it, asking stuff like: why do he needs another woman? I am not enough for him?
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>>524513605
Name them>>524513620
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>>524512732
Do you want to fuck women out of your league, even the hottest ones on earth? Congrats, you too are hypergamous.
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>>524512732
If Hypergamy is real and 20% men get 80% of women when do I get my extra women or when does some chad come and take my wife away? I don't understand this.
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If you an “average” guy. Find an average girl and convince her to better her life while you better yourself.
The fuck is wrong with your bitch ass? Are you a nigger? A Jew? Or a man?
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>>524529964
Imagine being this out of touch
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>>524529964
You sound like a female trying to fit in at /pol/. Fuck off, retard.
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>>524512732
Why would you want more than one woman draining your bank account?
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>>524513111
Good meme worth reading. Came here to post this, and to say that women disproportionately have kids with losers, so their choices are not eugenic at all.
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Good thread
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I would zutt in her
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>>524512732

I've never understood this shit because I'm out and about on pretty much a daily basis (it's part of my job) and I see plenty of couples where the woman is at least decently attractive and the guy is very far from a Chad.
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>>524512732
Women are livestock to be managed and bred

The ONLY solution is axlotl tank farms
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>>524512808
this, kill all jews
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I agree. Polygyny makes sense
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>>524512732
ya and its also men's default nature to murder off competing males
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I want 4 wives
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>>524512732
Lost weight, worked hard at my jobs, learned how to socialize. Found out this month I'm in the top 20%. Feels weird.

>>524512978
>>524513014
Polygyny is only allowed if pursued as LLC businesses rather than actual marriages. Looked into this and it legally works on paper. But, it still has the same drawbacks and almost definitely produces psychotic children.
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Angie is the goat
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>>524512732
>since it appears to be the default of human nature right?
NO! you do not have permission to turn our motherfucking daughters into concubines.........

>default of human nature right?
it's also the default human behavior to eat sugary products and never work for anything

this is just a retarded attempt by the oligarchs to get every man to agree to a game that is already rigged since the government is leading women into vulnerable positions with welfare, then corporate welfare recipients like elon musk pick up the tab and personally use tax dollars to fund their welfare lives............

and to attempt to spin this as a eugenics program is fucking retarded. we already know that women seek out dark triad traits, we've seen white women throw away their genetics because the jew put niggers on MTV and this was women's cue to "be hypergamous"? get the fuck out of here.

it's a long-known fact that billionaires have IQs of 105 on average, so that folk wisdom fails immediately as well.

and this cope about "men who can't get a woman have inferior genetics that shouldn't be passed on" stupidity is easily defeated by the fact that the women these fags are trying to reproduce with ARE THE FUCKING SISTERS OF SOME OF THESE MEN - YET THE OLIGARCH TRYING TO TAKE THESE CONCUBINES WON'T REJECT THEM ON THAT BASIS.

western countries became great under christianity; marriage between one man and one woman. YOU DO NOT POSSESS A SECRETIVELY BETTER WAY.

this is nothing more than a Weimar Republic attempt to ramp up sexual perversion.

again, the oligarchs are trying to convince men they're going to have 72 virgins each, and so they need to agree that the oligarchs can fuck your whole family.
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>>524512732
>it is correct to say we should bring back polygymy where men can marry multiple women in the west

The problem is, he does not support the children, the government does with welfare using MY TAX MONEY!!!
An children of single mothers are fucked up
often
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>>524520053
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR WHORES
I WONT PAY FOR THEM YOUR PUSSY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY
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>>524519671
correct
women have all the leverage, men have to trust they wont be hung out to dry
bad arrangement for the man
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>>524514391
Middle east is largely a shithole for that very reason. A large percentage of arabs are virgin chuds because 1 chad has 3 or 4 wives drastically reducing his chances of finding a mate thus leading him towards radical jihad
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>>524533103
in those cases, the man has a decent job, pension, house
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>>524512732
No, te correct solution would be breeding conscription for females to breed with actually good genes, same as there is male slavery worldwide
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Based.
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>>524512732
Yes hypergamy is default human nature, but you can't hold together a civilization. You'll have roving bands of unsexed men coming to kill you and take your women
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>>524512732
formal polygyny means constant incel uprisings. men will fight and die if they can't breed
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4 men worshiping 1 thick goddess is the future of relationships. and if 1 man divorces she takes half his resources to share with herself and the other men still by her side.
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>>524536194
No. Polygymy only for men. Not women
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>>524536686
feminists would never allow it, the anon you are responding to is right
simpism predicts this
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>>524512732
Top 10% dude here I do what I want anytime I want live how I want have no responsibilities don't give a fucking shit about you fuck you fuck your family too and I usually fuck 5 whores a day while on vacation and I do that for weeks but I come back home and women act like I don't exist or give me nasty looks lmao not my problem they have ugly bodies anyway do you know how rare prime tits are? you probably don't but women hide that shit and most don't even fuck that much cuz I bet they are actually autistic and shit.
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name of ops cutie?
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>>524512732
Wonderful idea OP, here's a recap of what happens:
>few men have many women.
>majority of men have no women.
>majority is mad.
>majority storms the houses of the few, brutally murders them, rapes the women and steals them for themselves.
>men now war with each other for women, society is broken.
>society eventually reverts to monogamy.
Your idea is stupid and there's a reason civilization enforces monogamy and marriage.
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>>524536815
>winner
category error
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>>524536999
not gonna happen since the populace is drugged docile and chemtrailed and everything monitored
>>524537034
nice gibberish but I'll just leave again soon instead of deal with fat cunts giving me ugly looks in public or blocking me on their social simp apps
no hot women to be found outside no third spaces no lactating milfs in need of rescue sorry not my style then buddy and yeah I only like plump firm growing tits so shove that in your pipe and smoke it fatfuck
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>>524537118
>rigged game
appealing to winning and losing under these conditions
is an admittance or your failure of analysis
and substituting your failure with a category error
in other words, you are not even reasoning correctly at this point
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>>524537118
>not gonna happen since the populace is drugged docile and chemtrailed and everything monitored.
You underestimate the power of male instinct to survive and the drive to fuck, there isn't a force on earth that will stop them. They will literally throw their bodies at you until they win.
Smarter people than you and I have concluded that civilization only works when the populus is monogamous or at the very least the men who fuck multiple women are hidden and not proudly displaid.
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Bring me 3 of those
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>>524537192
wrong attempt at whatever you are trying to do, nerd
>>524537263
I can literally fuck 5 women a day for months on end then go near entitled arrogant white women and my penis shrivels up inside and I feel icky
I've been with too many submissive brown women and am now a sar you shall refer to me as sar or mistar
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>>524537553
>impotent attempt to refute my ironclad irrefutable argument
heh, pathetic
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>>524537553
>I can literally fuck 5 women a day for months on end then go near entitled arrogant white women and my penis shrivels up inside and I feel icky
I've been with too many submissive brown women and am now a sar you shall refer to me as sar or mistar.
Sounds like a "you" problem lil bro.
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>>524512732
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Good question
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>>524537553
>penis shrivels up inside
micropeened jeet detected
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I am an incel
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Hot
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>>524512732
kill the 20%
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>>524512732
>if blah blah then gah gah then what?
whites disappear and brownoids and jew enclaves increase
are you retarded?
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>>524512732
That's a great way to alienate 80% of your male population so they either don't contribute to the system or try to overthrow it
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if 80% of the women look like that jewess, im ok with that. i aint touching that with a 50' pole. i aint no pantera race traitor
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>>524537728
its not a prophecy if their just instructions people are following. prophecies are predicting the unpredictable, not giving orders.
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>>524534812
she doesnt look single, shes white
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>>524513226
Jeet said to hell with the VPN and the meme flags, he’s just going to discuss his porn preferences with the thread.
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>>524539037
This is such a strange post. Reminds one strongly of a Jewish attempt to spout nonsense while assuming an air of obvious correctness. There would be no reason for anyone to assume that the text of Isaiah 4:1 is "giving orders" or describing "instructions [that] people are following". As far as I understand, this prophecy has not yet come to pass.
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Yes
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Would
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>>524539355
the fuck are you talking about, its called jewish adventures 4: jews in space. youre a poor chatbot
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I'm in
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>>524512732
That woman looks absolutely diabolical. Her face tells me she has a grotesque personality.
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>>524540761
she made an entirely conscious decision to work for jews, and now her shame will be immortalized for all to witness
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We need to focus on dying for Israel. Netanyahu is in the usa now to recruit us. Prepare goy
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>>524540887
She finished law school and is married with kids now. She also never got nude for the internet. She only took bikini photos and bikini videos.
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I need a wife
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>>524512808
america became great because it was full of white men and didnt have a king cucking them.

not complicated. the browner something gets, the shittier.
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>>524529789
you're not a top 20% male so you can have the fat cow. not complicated.
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>>524513226
poopesh cuckjeet,fuck off to cuck boards like plebbit.
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>>524513656
fuck off to whatever dunecoon cave you came from niggerfaggot,leave pastaland you worthless cuck.
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>>524514073
>Aristocrats
Ya, Masonic and Jewish aristocracy is really the kind of behavior we should be emulating, fucking retard.
>why not?
Because it produces a fractured sense of identity in the offspring of such unions. I think the statistics regarding the children of Divorce or Single Parents ought to serve as some evidence of how fucked up they turn out more then children of a loyal monogamous partnership.
>situationships
Ya, this is just as dysfunctional, no fucking shit.

>>524514206
Not in all cases, but I think you're mainly fixating on the Aristocracy, which has never been healthy nor the pinnacle of virtue.
Peasants were monogamous, you could argue it was the lack of options, but they tended to stay together and work together. Christian Societies have always encouraged Monogamy, and they were all way more succesful. Ancient Europeans (Not the jewish and church subversion you've read) were monogamous.
We have Pair Bonding Chemicals for a reason, and envy and jealously destroys society, hence why monogamy has always functioned to mitigate these emotions. Whereas in a polygamous society these emotions invariably manifest, people are even more insecure, and constantly comparing themselves to others.
Africa and the Middle East were like this, ever wonder why they're so fucked up? And why their genetic pool is also so fucking retard in many cases, coupled with consanguinity, Polygamy is the reason they never advanced beyond Tribalism, and their societies kept collapsing.
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>>524541148
like i said
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>>524512732
Sure, but remove laws stopping me killing a man for his wife. If we are to act like beasts we all get to be beasts the way God intended. Lets see schlomo protect all 8 of his wives from my hungry cock. Since we want to focus on "the best genes" it should just be "strongest" not "richest". None of this halfway shit where we pick and choose what natural laws we want so that a pack of snivelling old fucks can run everything by curtailing mens natural assets.

Let me take as barbarians do, since you wish to live as despots.
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>>524512732
Yes, that's the fastest way to get 80% of males organizing to burning everything to the ground
Brother, pussy are supposed to tame men and grant the perpetuation of the species. What we have today is unproductive men with porn and antidepressants, whore women, chidren without a father and impending demographic collapse. The ruins of the world will be ruled by low IQ belligereng mongrels with huge cocks because that's the 20% of men women pursue.
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>>524541148
you sure? I've seen a topless selfie pic before on this site but it might have been AI. It was years ago.
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>>524512732
Polygamy already exists. You can have infinite baby mamas.
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>>524512978
Most of humanity is savage niggers, white civilizations were different
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>>524512732
polygamous societies will get conquered by monogamous societies.
those 80% of men who get the short end of the stick won't contribute (much) to the strength of your nation, causing your nation to degrade.

groups like mormons/jews survived as parasitic entities on functional societies. if they were independent theyd be conquered very easily. its no wonder why host countries were often hostile to jews and why the US government oppressed mormons in the past.

btw i personally would love to have 10 wives, but im not a nigger and acknowledge that this would destabilise my nation.
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>>524521698
she was younger that
it's just proof that all men are disgusting pedos, thirsting over a literal kid
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>>524548041
mormons have outlawed polygamy for over 100 years
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>>524512732
>make it acceptable socially
Only if we make murdering Chads and taking their women socially acceptable again too.
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>>524519058

>I'm selfish and I will die alone
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>>524512952
Underrated kek
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>>524512732
>>524512808
>>524512823
As long as the 80% of men don't work for you selfish, loser parasites then noone would find it problematic.
You'd just split then get destroyed in the next war since you're outnumbered in terms of actual capable fighters(obviously the women ain't gonna do shit so their numbers are mostly irrelevant).
You can't make this the norm because this isn't actually human nature.
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>>524512732
it's 90-10 at this point because most men in the west are complete incels and nearly all of them are lying their asses off about getting laid.
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>>524512732
High IQ chads should breed with multiple women at the time of course.
Incels should have access to prostitutes but not breed.
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>>524512732
>>524514073

You're actually so stupid it's tragic. Can you think for 2 seconds of the disastrous consequences. This is the kind of female stupidity that causes all wars in the first place.
Just improve yourself along with your partner and your relationship quality will be as good as the best.
You can't expect to be a lazy, useless cunt and have society cater to your already overpaid, ungrateful delusional monkey existence and then say "oh lets just kill all the people we've wronged and its k" It's not ok because you're the one who wronged everyone and your karma is in the shitter at this point. You don't get to make any demands because you owe your entire existence to all these men you're condemning you idiot. You'd be the first ones to die if you do this.
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>>524512732
>we should bring back polygymy
Yes we should !
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>>524530331
>>524530087
It's literally as easy as that. Yes, women are retards, but there's a cute little retard yo match your autism.
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>>524534074
>Polygyny is only allowed if pursued as LLC businesses rather than actual marriages. Looked into this and it legally works on paper. But, it still has the same drawbacks and almost definitely produces psychotic children.
Please expound on this.
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>>524512732
This sentiment arises from living in a 'concrete forest' where traditional growth has been supplanted by social degeneracy. In rural areas, marriage remains the norm; those who remain alone are often those who felt called to a higher purpose. Ultimately, humanity was not designed for the isolation of dense urban environments, living in close proximity to strangers with whom they share no connection.
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>>524512732
give women what they want. they want to be sister wives to the richest men. let them. let the rich guys deal with it.
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>>524516727
>How is polygamy anti-mail?
It's anti-male because the ratio of men & women is roughly 50:50. If some men are able to have more than 1 wife, then other men will miss out.
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>>524548284
>disgusting
women have higher levels of disgust. it's your default baseline. your opinion doesn't matter because you can't regulate your negative emotion

>pedos
sorry i don't know what that means any more. people seem to be using it for anyone who's attracted to women below the age of 25. you'll just have to be more specific, cunt.
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>>524513850
>>524514482
>>524515472

humans literally did not evolve to be monogamous. none of the greater apes are monogamous.

women literally use pre-selection. they want men that other women want, they literally can't think for themselves a majority of the time.
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>>524515952
>western civilization is more important than a handful of dudes larping a harem

they aren't larping. ask the women. they're going after the same guys. they lie about alphas, then spontaneously decide who the alpha is based on bullshit reasons
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>>524553689
Using the natural world as the metric of success is quite the most primitive and ridiculous thing one could do. The very fact that man towers above all other organisms on the planet is because we are capable of acting on reasoning beyond natural impulse. The same reason why those that act on it never achieve anything (Negroes and Jeets). What you desire is basically a race to nowhere. It's a subhuman experience that always results in the outcome of a subhuman society.
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Cute
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>>524553921
>man towers above all other organisms

>eaten by sharks and crocs
>killed by disease
>killed by viruses
>subject to parasites
>humans kill each other

i dunno anon, feels like the race to even a small improvement would be a small race that's completely achievable
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>>524512732
Nobody banging five whores who don't want children is going to marry them.
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>>524512732
we should just abolish all welfare systems.
the reason this can continue is because women have access to the money of the 80% of men they ignore anyway thanks to the state.
the guys they chase would never bother to pay a bill for them, and thus the women would quickly rake up so much debt that they have to get a fulltime job (a real one, not just forwarding mails) and no longer have the time to endlessly chase Chad.

Chad has no interesting in paying for dozens of bitches each. If he actually had to pay the bill for his sexual escapades, he'd just stick to Stacy and maybe one side piece and that's it.

basically every ill of modern society can be traced back to the fact that parasites can spend other people's money to indulge in their degeneracy.
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I'm down
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>>524553372
>This sentiment arises from living in a 'concrete forest'
wrong
it has a lot to do with social media on the other hand
NOTHING was ever this fucked before the rise of facebook and its equivalents
you can have any political party rule the country, it will still be a failure as long as women browse dicks like they're at the meat market and narcissists are put on a pedestal

you can't even begin to grasp on how many levels we are fucked
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I like this idea
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Would.
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>>524512732
>Then it is correct to say we should bring back polygymy
Us Euros never had polygamy as the norm though? You can try this if you wanna end up like all the other polygamist states though ofc. Lmao.
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That's my wife
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>>524512732
>bring back polygymy
My wife already knows that I fuck all her friends anyway. Last thing I need is all those bitches together in my house.
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>>524512732
no you shit. 20% men do not get 80% of women. maybe in jew-supported muzzie countries, to foster single rabid disgenic hordes of 16-45 brownoid shits male army to send to Europe.

Problem to fucking around of white women is judaism



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