This is a graphic representation of Ukraine and the land that has changed hands this year.
So that's why NAFO troons have been so pissy. Anyone else notice how they gave up on the "14:1" turbo cope spam?
>>524530056but telegram troons told me they are winning with some drone explosions!?
>>524530056If I went back in time to Feb 2022 and told you retards that Russia would be stuck in Donbass fighting the Ukrainians for mere kilometers of land, you guys would call me an delusional shill.
>>524530632I would probably just call you a faggot because you are one
>>524530632>Ok, yes, they're raping my asshole but I was under the impression they'd rape me harder
>>524530056Show me a graph of the casualties because this alone matters.Ukraine lost only 1.7 million but Russia lost 14 times more: 23.8 million.Just send more money to keep this miracle going.
>>524530056>In one year Russia has managed to conquer 20 villages and 50 farms
>>524530714>>524530481>>524530598>>524530800What is the obsession with faggots and troons? It’s like they are on your mind 24/7.
>>524530056This looks almost impressive until you realize that this is zoomed in and still took a year to achieve.
>>524530864Sounds like you already have the graph lol
>>524530864>Show me a graph of the casualties because this alone matters.The problem is neither side has been willing to share their casualty rates
>>524530966>t. Raped kike slave
>>524530864>Show me a graph of the casualties because this alone matters.Casualties only matter to UkraineAs far as Ukraine is concerned Russia has infinite population.
>>524531049It's especially crazy how much casualty estimates change as we get more data
>>524530056>How zoomed in do you want it?>Yes
>>524530632Ukraine is incapable of maintaining the frontline with massive support, much less launching an offensive. They need even more funding, and at some point the frontline will simply begin to collapse—maybe in six months, maybe in a year, maybe in two—it's impossible to say for sure. But when that happens, NATO will literally be forced to rescue the Kyiv regime, which is the very threat the US wants to avoid. This means they need peace now, while the frontline still holds and the Kyiv regime can be preserved without spending hundreds of billions on it.Therefore, all this talk about how little land Ukraine has lost is just a copium. The question is how many soldiers, equipment, and money they have lost for this, and how much more they can. If peace isn't concluded quickly, there's a high risk that Ukraine will ultimately lose another 2-4 regions.
>>524531502Why is Putin wasting time negotiating then? Same reason you post on the internet instead of make drones for the boys on the front?
>>524531502You chucklefucks cant cross a field without losing a thousand men. You are using Horses for assaults now because you dont even have ladas or golf carts anymore!
>>524530966it's almost like you had a literal tranny as the military spokesqueer for ukriane and a tranny filled NAFO organization shilling social media, /k/, and here.
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>>524531581Because Russia doesn't need so much Ukraine lands. But these lands will have to be taken eventually if the regime begins to collapse; there's no point in leaving them to just anyone.And all negotiating proposals initially come from the US. Russia didn't run to the US with calls for peace. Trump runs to Zelenskyy, then he runs to Europe, they both run to Trump, who again supports Ukraine for a couple of months, and so on in a circle until Trump finally gets tired of listening to Europe and their stupid proposals.
>>524531502>Ukraine is incapable of maintaining the frontline with massive supportremind us again why there are north fucking koreans in kursk?
>>524530864Ukraine - at least 100,000-150,000+ military combat casualties (at least 40,000-100,000 amputees).Ukraine - at least 70,000-120,000 *dead* civilians.Ukraine - at least 13,000 destroyed/irrecoverable military land vehicle losses.Ukraine - 20,000 sq mi of land occupied by Russia *not counting Crimea*.Ukraine - at least 7-12 million citizens *fled* the country and are *still* gone.Russia - at least 200,000-400,000+ military combat casualties (at least 100,000 amputees).Russia - at least 5,000-15,000 *dead* civilians (gray area because of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts).Russia - at least 18,000 destroyed/irrecoverable land vehicle losses.Russia - less than 1,000-1,500+ sq mi of land *temporarily* occupied by Ukraine (99.9% recaptured at least now)Russia - no mass flights of citizens (except in Luhansk and Donetsk, of which the maximum number is around 2 million people fled to Russia).Most optimistic specs for UkraineMilitary casualties Ukraine to Russia = about 1:3-4Total casualties Ukraine to Russia = about 1:2Land vehicle losses KD Ukraine to Russia = 1:1.42
>>524531960And there could be more of them. Think about it if you're now full NAFO retard maybe then you'll understand how things could get really bad for Ukraine..
>>524532096Lets see>China Russia North Korea>The entirety of NATO, Australia and the good asian countriesI'll take my chances gay nigger.
>>524530966its obvious
>>524532096Oh also the NORKS are specifically not allowed into Ukraine because that was considered a red line for NATO. That's why they were relief soldiers in kursk.
That's the ultra pro-ukrainian map (Deep State) which admits to changing its maps when asked by the SBU
this war has gone almost as long as ww1
>>524532055>Source: Kyiv Independent
>>524530966Beep, troon detected
>>524531502CopeThe Russia lost
>>524530056seems a bit small imo, the size of 1 or two provinces in total, but you know what they say slow and steady wins the race
>>524530056/uhg/ will still say this is too slow. i bet russia crosses the dniper mid 2026
>>524533291I genuinely don't understand the moaning about the slow advance by Russia. Surely people don't think the frontline will continue at the same pace until the end of the war? A breaking point will be reached sooner or later at which time the rate of advances will increase dramatically
Any march 1 preditcions?
>>524533605>I genuinely don't understand the moaning about the slow advance by RussiaIf you're a NAFO retard then its the only possible angle you can try and argue
>>524530056Damn those North Koreans are doing way better than the Russians ever did.
>>524533605>>524533722I think it's mostly about the slowness of the advance being caused by Russian ineptitude and huge losses. Putin botched the initial invasion and missed his chance to mobilize. Now all Russia can do it send moar and moar meat to hopefully capture rubble. There's zero benefit to the war for them.
>>524533605I was refering more on the fact the advance being a bit small, i remember when Wagner was still active at one point it practically looked as if they were about to take over the capital and then they did a big retreat, the war has been going in some capacity for like a decade if we count since the 2014 disturbances, it is a massive drag by now and the gains while mounting seem smallI am mostly curious if Zelensky will really stretch things till half of ukraine is captured by russia before admiting defeat or being killed, this is like watching a car crash in slow mo, but i actually care a bit because the affected look white unlike in the middle east
>>524531502Sensible take, unusual for /pol/. I see you have already got the usual babble responses from the subhumans who frequent these pages.You are completely correct. The situation is analogous to the Western front in WW1 where nothing much happened for 4 years except bloody battles of attrition involving very little changes in the front line. Then suddenly the German army collapsed. Economic hardships caused by the British blockade contributed, as did the American intervention, but basically their morale had sunk to a low point and they had run out of warm bodies to man the trenches. Doesn't matter how many natty weapons and high tech gadgets one side might have, if they haven't got the men, and importantly the will to keep fighting, they lose.Ukraine was able to play the "defend the motherland" card for a long time, but now after years of being ground down by an implacable enemy few Ukrainians have any faith in their government who is being both unrealistic and unreasonable in completely rejecting the Russian's demands. Their willingness to die for Ukraine is now being replaced by an unwillingness to die for Zelensky.The sudden call to arms being cried across Western Europe is an indication that European leaders have a much better grip on the realities of the war than they let on. They know Ukraine is going to eventually collapse and accede to the Russian demands. hence the rush to rearm and muscle up their armies. And surely Russia must anticipate that once Ukraine collapses then Zelesnky all all his appartus is gone for good, with the time being ripe to begin machinations to install a puppet government of their own. Once achieved then what remains of Ukraine will no longer present any pretense of being a buffer state. This worries the Western governments but comes with a silver lining. Any form of a properly rearmed Nato will not be seriously threatened by Russia, but it does provide a killing in profits to be made by industrialists.
>>524530864body exchanges are at 1000 ukraine to about 30 russians. Ukraine won't take more than 1000 at a time, Russians have like tens of thousands of hohol bodies piled up, and thats only the ones they find.
>>524530966>so what I post on Reddit...what is this places obsession with our moderators?kys
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>>524531502> 3 days> 3 weeks> 3 years> 3 decades
>>524530864>russia lost almost a fifth of their population during this war trust me bro
>>524534198The use of conscripts abroad is strictly regulated by Russian law. There is no paper trail to indicate that other than the one-time mobilization of 300k mobiks, conscripts are used in the war. And if they are not, and the war is fought by mercs, professional soldiers, convicts and DPR/LPR militias, then it's impossible to have anywhere as large causalities as Ukraine or its handlers would have the public believe.On the other hand, Ukraine's mobilization waves are in the double digits now and they resort to literally kidnapping people in minivans.
>>524535903looks like at most 4000 graves, bud!
>>524532902I'm anti-Ukraine btw. Fuck them and the EU. I was just showing all the trannies, libs, and neocons quoting 1:14 KDs are literal gorillanigger retards or just straight up lying to people to sell more propaganda. Also 28 out of 31 Abrams tanks are toast. All of them lost with loss of life, the majority of them were killed by $500 drones and $100 mines. I hope the US MIC is taking notes.
>>524531581>Why is Putin wasting time negotiating thenBecause wasting time is literally the goal? We need to convince Trump he's great and is stopping the war so US doesn't send help to Ukraine. The longer that continues, the better it is for Russia.
>>524539201The war will not stop until either a blackswan event (like the end of the USSR) happens, or until Russia fully occupies Donetsk. The reasoning is, Russia has publicly and officially declared Donetsk as Russian territory, and because about 25% of Donetsk is still contested, the war will not stop until that border is fully captured and secured by Russia. Luhansk was only recently fully occupied by Russian forces (another officially claimed Russian territory).
>>524539370The war will not stop until Ukraine completely loses ability to resist. No one really cares about the optics or territories "in the moment". Millitary budget for 2026 and 2027 is already planned. No one's going to change it because of some words or imaginary lines being crossed. People are working, please understand. Mid and big buisinesses demand a buffer zone in Sumy and Kharkov. State corporations demand landlocking of Ukraine. Everything Russian government, including the ministry of foreign affairs does, is done for the sake of bringing closer the moment when Ukraine will lose the ability to resist.
>>524539656The EU does not want Ukraine to stop fighting, and neither does jewlensky. One of the primary reasons is the optics for them. Another reason is to temporarily weaken Russia in any way it can, and sabotage any USA-Russia trade agreements (especially because the EU mostly banned Russian petrol/gas, while USA and Russian petrol is about 0.60 Euros a liter). Russia is also set to gain the most mineral rich, fertile, and industrial region of Ukraine, which also causes problems for the EU (but doesn't effect the USA much at all, unless we get mineral deals in a peace deal). Some US MIC companies also benefit because they have made hundreds of billions of dollars off of weapons sales to Ukraine and Europe and are ramping up sales and production locally, this is why USA congress is largely supportive of the war continuing (congress members can receive direct funding from 3rd parties, corporations, hedge funds, insider trading etc).
Any predictions for spring?
>>524540173I predict mud in the spring .. and lots of it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fefFX0k-fW8
>>524532284>projection
>>524540517oh shit a talking monkey!
>>52453086424 million? You know that’s more than the entrie military loss of Russia during WW2 right?RIIIIGHT????
>>524540173russians advance another 2 kilometersukrainians seething and coping and pretending to be winningrussians seething and coping and pretending that this is acceptable performance from a "superpower"
>>524530632It doesn’t matter what people thought in 2022. What matters is that Russia is winning now. It’s not like there’s a runner up award for “held out longer than initially assumed.”
>>524530632Chug started because we made fun of people who said Kiev in 3 days
>>524531960>North Korea, a russian ally, now has real world up to the minute combat experience in a modern warfare environment with drones and etc>south korea a nato ally does not>somehow this is bad for russia
