See what the nationalists of today give you? Thatcher-Reagan austerity to crush the workers and pay for war and entitlements for the wealthy.What an appealing mass policy.https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/12/29/htdj-d29.html
>>524547179None of your demented faggot commie beliefs are sustainable in the real world.
>>524547179Guarantee you, the AfD will be pushing for war with Russia, whether they become the majority party or just remain a major party, as they embrace the suck . . . err, I mean as they are integrated into German government and their leaders begin to reap the benefits of being mostly insiders. These "New Nationalists" are shit nationalists.Remember, that AfD harpy also mocked Hitler.
This is talking about another party's, SPD's, policies, though isn't it?. It doesn't say what the AFD actually proposed in its stead
>>524547179>>524547236>>524547261this is blatent commie disinformationthe welfare for unemployed was greatly expanded by the previous government and all they want is to take that backof course commies lie 24/7thats why you post that here where noone can correct your filthy lies
>>524547236Worked just fine until uncontrolled illegal immigration was allowedAnd you think unrestrained capitalist oligarchy is sustainable? It'll run into mass revolt at some point.The wealth exists today for all people in advanced countries to live decent lives, yet you fuckers want only the professional (state- and elite-serving) and upper classes to have any sort of decent life while the bottom 80 to 85 percent who aren't upper middle class and above are just slaves for the interests of their "betters."
>>524547236This is you.
>>524547352>Alice Weidel, co-chairwoman of the AfD, screeched: “Mr. Chancellor, finally abolish this citizens’ income!”>>524547358Have fun fighting Russia. That's their real goal for you.They're giving you some fake ass nationalists to rile you up and get you to fight for your country, then when the war is over and whites are over too, it'll be replacement time.And I'm not a Marxist. I just find information wherever it's useful to find it, from far right to far left sources.
>>524547360wealth is created by work not by collecting unemplyoment benefits, you filthy commie
>>524547462Yeah, that's what I mean, The AFD proposed abolishing whatever that is, but it's another party implementing an alternative system. My question is what was the AfD's alternative idea.
>>524547462dont tell me about my coutnry when all you get your information from fucking commies
>>524547518the AFD wants back to the previous system that includues sanctions and cutting of payments for not taking on a jobof course commies cry about it, because they dotn actually want to work
>>524547413In fact it's not me. I don't adhere to any existing system of political economy, nor even any existing political system, and I even have monarchist sympathies. But I do believe people from wealthy countries should live decent lives instead of only elites and their servant class -- the upper middle class professionals -- getting to have good lives, and extra-lavish lives at the expense of ordinary people.You types reduce nationalism to martial glory in the service of your elites, rather than including good lives for regular nationals in your program. It's like the conflict between Hitler and Strasser.
>>524547577And because of the EU's proxy war with Russia, unemployment is rising fast in Germany as industry is offshored.
>>524547647what the fuck is your obsession with Russia, you fuckign commiecan you ever stay on the argument?can you be more obvious a russian shillnigger?
>>524547757I mention Russia because it is relevant to Germany's situation today. Germany needs Russian energy and other minerals and is deindustrializing as a result of not getting them, threatening Germany's future as a leading nation worldwide and even in Europe. And Russia is opposed to neoliberal policy, i.e. those policies ushered in by Thatcher and Reagan and their followers, mainly in the Anglophone world, of breaking the labor movement and workers' wages and benefits, offshoring, allowing immigrant labor legal and illegal to reduce worker pay and make workers more compliant, technocracy and rule by experts in order to "depoliticize" decision making at the state level, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeoliberalismTell me, are you one of those Germans obsessed with Russia as the great enemy?Europe is becoming irrelevant and so is banking its future on the conquest of Russia. Third time's the charm, I guess -- or so their thinking seems to go. The road you're on will lead you to where the UK is today: a neoliberal shithole with no rights and a sadistic upper class getting its jollies by pushing around the commoners. That wasn't much of a thing in continental Europe before, but now the continent is going this way.
>>524547179weidel is a jewess, "married" to a jeet looney troonthere is nothing right winged in herso there's that
>>524547179>AfD is just the controlled OP right led by a literal LesbianNo shit
>>524547485>wealth is created by work Sex work? Bad dragon dildo manufacturing? Selling funko pops? Marketing spyware? Just because it's work doesn't mean it's creating real wealth. Unfortunately because "muh free market" in capitalism so much of society's effort is directed to consumerist trash and waste and not genuinely uplifting our civilization.
>>524547757And don't delude yourself: the US, under Trump, wants to make friends with Russia to use this compact against China. And in so doing, the US also wishes to break the EU, Germany in particular, so that Europe can be readily dominated by the US, much more so than now. You'll end up under America's boot in a much harsher way than before with Russia holding special-friend status vis-a-vis America and Germany being deemed a rival to be weakened. Poland will likely be allowed to rise as the dominant power in Europe if it's willing to go along with the US in this pro-Russia, anti-EU agenda for getting rid or or else weakening two US strategic rivals: China and Europe.
If you hold radical beliefs then electoral politics is essentially damage control. Sure, "national conservatism" is ultimately a product of and will seek to reinforce the blob, but it's better than just letting the center-[left/right] hold power uncontested. The best you can do until an actual moment for substantive change arrives is to not make a deal with the devil and compromise on your demands in the hope that by "moderating" the archons will become "based"
>>524547999Yep, these "New Nationalists" are shit.They are Judas goats corralling rightists behind an imperialist/globalist agenda of defeating globohomo's enemies.
>>524547179"populism" always losesstop tolerating faith
>>524548141the only "good" they are is in moving the Overton windowwhich won't help us voote ourselves out of this messthere is no civil solution, really
>>524547179Germanistan is alive and well, I see. Say what you will about our spics, they're Catholic and help us set up Christmas displays, they don't drive commercial vehicles through Christmas markets or launch professional grade fireworks into crowds and support ISIS like your rapefugees
>>524548105I wish we had archons.For quite a while in Athens, the archons were chosen by lot amongst the entire body of Athenian citizens, thus helping stave off the possibility of wealthy people monopolizing power, as they tend to do in democracies and republics, thus leading to oligarchies that give way to de factor monarchies/emperors when the commoners get fed up enough with the oligarchs that a strongman can seize the opportunity to make himself sole ruler.
>>524548298We need the Gnosticism version of Archons. Fuck gnositics but that would be pretty cool
>far-rightAfD is not "far Right" nor is it even "Right." It is part of the jewish-funding network of faux-Right, faux-Nationalist parties or movements that we have seen since absout 2015. As Steve Bannon, intimate of Jeffery Epstein, promised would happen in his 2014 address, suddenly there were pro-capitalist, pro-zionist and contra-Moslem [ie hyper jewish], and [pseudo] populist candidates in The Netherlands, USA, Austria, Germany, Hungary, and Italy. France's National Front rebranded (again.) We saw this spread to include used car salesmen tier grifters like Nigel Farage, Pierre Poilievre.AfD is, rhetorically and objectively, approximately Mitt Romney tier GOP (though with more explicit jewish supremacy.) None of these "based" leaders be it Takaichi, Trump, Meloni, Putin, or the dye job Indonesian jew in Holland, fight international jewish finance, actually oppose immigration, or do anything to lift up the populations they allegedly represent. ALL of them are far-jewish, jeet immigration promoting, Big Line Go Up Cult jewish hirelings. Germany's AfD is no different, and merely operates to give Germans false hope (and to be a honeypot) to those still believe that there are electoral political solutions (no there are not.) Any actual Rightist party would immediately be shut down and its leadership imprisoned.Tldr: next time calls the AfD Right or Far Right, ask them why and say no it isn't just as Trump isn't. These are jewish-first faux nationalists who are cramming millions of Indians into their countries while letting the the middle classes and young native stock wither.
>>524547179workers means non germans btw.there is a reason pajeet and turkroaches move en masse to germany, and its for the social state benefits. cut them and the pajeets will leave
>>524547179It's all kabuki. They have been renaming and tinkering on the same system for like 30 years now. They don't want to do something about the migration issue so they talk about unemployment benefits to distract the people. The entire system itself is incredibly corrupt because it's main goal is to obscure unemployment numbers, so there are never any big reforms out of fear the unemployment statistics gonna look even worse. They just rename shit and raise/lower benefits slightly. Last year the current center-right government ran on lowering unemployment benefits by like 30 billions Euros and now they talk about a few hundred millions. It's all just bullshit.
>>524547179We need much stricter laws. And more controls.
I thought Afd was about removing turks and Syrians, what happened
>>524547179I honestly totally believe the meeting between her and Brezhnev was real. The UK is a great enemy of white people in general, just look what they do to their own people.
>>524547261I wish. If they were actually in favor of what Uncle Adolf started they'd be electable
>>524548414Very, very well putThis guy gets it!
>>524548509Cut benefits for the foreigners, leave them in place to help Germans in their time of need.
>>524549036Somehow in ((some way)) they're playing the same game your president played to get elected.
>>524549036See this guy's comment>>524548414
>>524549496>The UK is a great enemy of white people in general, just look what they do to their own people.I'm still on the fence about this.The UK's class system, dating back to the Norman Conquest (most noble families today remain Norman in the UK), has long made England, then the UK, very anti-common and pro-elite to the point of favoring foreigners over nationals since the foreigners will work for less money. There's a certain antipathy among the British ruling class for ordinary Brits (and many ordinary Brits return the feeling), and I think this may be the basis of so many of the Anglo world's globohomo sympathies: favoring foreigners over one's own lesser classes.
>>524548414>>524549894seems samefaggyI will still vote AfD, there is not other alternative
>>524550048That was like 1000 years ago and yes, the UK is a much more hierarchical place as far as their society goes. What makes things worse is that this elite that controls the UK seems really to want to dominate the world. They spent the past feew hundred years trying to dominate Europe, this meant pitting countries against each other for the benefit of the UK's rulers and them alone, this has led to countless bloody and pointless wars. This was one of the major underlying factors that led to WW1, which led to WW2, etc... Not to say the UK was alone at fault but it was this put everyone else down to stay ahead that was a major motivator, more so than any other to create the conditions necessary and it continues to happen today.It''s also the modern financial system, they are the home base of the Rothschilds and now it seems they, MI6 and Mossad are (obviously) connected to Epstein too. The way I view the UK is sort of like that "imagine a boot stomping on your face forever" meme.
>>524547179>nationalists of todaythey are all open or crypto Zionists
>>524547179Doesn't it say they want to remove the current benefits to get rid of leeches, which is a good thing?I think you are retarded, OP. Or just a new doing your average well-poisoning. But whatever applies, you are certainly gay too.
>>524553480what they should do is remove all the benefits to nongermans and 1st gen migrants
>>524547261>Guarantee you, the AfD will be pushing for war with RussiaThey are the most pro Russian party in the parliament.
>>524553580I'd rather deport them all, but yeah. Cutting all benefits would be a good alternative.
>>524553592For nowAnd Trump was going to end the war on day one and acts like he's pro-Russia, then he goes on to authorize blowing up a bunch of strategic bombers deep inside Russia after giving Russia a vague warningTrump is a wildcard who, now, seems to be somewhat pro-Russia, seeing Russia as necessary to take down China, but in Europe it's seen as an existential imperative to destroy Russia, so any party allowed into the room will have to agree to be anti-Russia, and I doubt the AfD has the moral fiber not to go along with that proposition. They're just opportunists more than principled nationalists with their people's interests at heart.
>>524553480You're the one who seems pretty gay in here. I said it's fine to get rid of benefits for foreigners and to keep them in place for Germans who actually need them. That's the rational approach, which means it's not on the table in today's world, because we live in irrational times.
>>524553638that would be even better of course but beggers can't be choosers, trying to be realistic
>>524550098kys
>>524547261No they won't. They are Hindu nationalists like jd vance and tulsi gabbard. They have no interest in defending europe
>>524547358It's a really fucking bad translation of Bürgergeld used to paint the wrong image, yeah.
>>524547352"Citizen's income" is a poor translation of "Bürgergeld". She's talking about the current gibs system, where people can just refuse to even show up to their appointments at the job center and will still get so much money blown up their ass that they'll have more than a good chunk of the working population.Basically every ill of modern society is caused by these socialist policies. Usually, degenerate behavior leads to consequences which are inconvenient to suffer, so most people will keep a lid on it. But with socialist policies, the consequences of degenerate behavior just get offloaded onto someone else, so there is zero reason to not just be a degenerate retard. After all, you get all the benefits, while someone else will have to carry the burden.
>>524547757>what the fuck is your obsession with RussiaHe's a petukh with a vpn.
>>524547179 Jew approved national socialist organisation. Every single time. Enjoy your genocide
>>524547360Ok but you commie faggots support open borders so you kind of got hoisted by your own retard
>>524547179citizens income is sitting on a couch and getting paid with other taxpayer money.motherfuckling obliterate that shit.
>>524547236as opposed to your demented nationalist beliefs that caused 2 world wars in the last century?
>>524558305>the nationalist beliefs caused two world warsthis is what they teach in germany?
>>524553592no, that would be the SED, followed by the SPD. the AfD at least has some internal dispute, see Lucassen
>>524558305RUUUUUUHEEEleb deine Behinderung woanders aus, Sören
>>524547360The oligarchy in Europe is neo-Marxist, stakeholder capitalist globalists. They are just as virulently anti-White as you and want to eradicate all European peoples just like you do. They believe in critical theory, equity, social "justice" and open borders just like you. I don't see how you are different at all. Did you have any criticism of mass migration before now or did you think that only "Nazis" who should be punched opposed it 10 years ago?
>>524558515Germans are basically about as brainwashed as North Koreans.
Right wing populists are often oblivious to the fact that their voters are mostly racist lumpenprole white trash who are reliant on state services, but this is negated by the fact that these voters are too dumb to understand rightwing populist economic positions in the first place.
>>524560727>no, that would be the SEDSar, stop hiding behind the German flag, sar.
>>524553741Fuck off. The AfD is literally sponsored by Russia.
>>524547179Germans lived in daycare paid by cheap russhit gas (paid by Europe instead), by cheap workforce from Eastern Europe and by cheating with euro rate fucking French and Italian economies (Italy was super conservative with their finances while Germany was super irresponsible but European Bank in Frankfurt always bailed Germany).
