If the EU is "deindustrializing" in favor of the US & Chyna and is "overregulated" so its "all ogre" for it, how come America's GDP growth is in 80% composed of investments into the LLM bubble & China is actually faltering since 2020?Both are bursting bubbles while Europe is the one actually resting on solid foundationsAnd additionally the EU doesn't look that bad when you simply zoom out. Riddle this to me, doompilled xiggers
Communists are not Democratic.
>>524551603The EU fell from 25% of the global economy to 14% inbetween 08’ and today. From the chemical industry in Germany to the banking in the UK, the EU economy has basically halved in the last 20 years.
>>524551603>others are doing just as badly as we arethat's not a flex...
>>524551603Because EU is doing sustained model, while USA and China are going full retard "we have to pump up those numbers" for stock holders.The stock market is the root of all problems.
>>524551680that mostly has to do with Brexit you dumb mutt kek
Fiat money and infinite population growth isn't a winning formula for a good economy.
>>524551680See this is the line of thinking I am talking about here >>524551779>muh economythey will jeet themselves to get those %s up, and fuck over themselves for some retarded statistics and money they will never see themselves.
>>524551603focus on top of tom's head for 20 secondsyou are supposed to see 'something' if you dont see it that means you are npcimage is made in 2019 for that purpose
>>524551823The UK is included in that percentage. Europe itself represents 14% of the global economy, and it represented 25% in 08’. Using the EU there might have been misleading. This includes all of Europe as a share of the global economy. Those inside and outside of the EU.
I wouldn't care if Europe was medieval, if they just kept their borders in check.
China is manufacturing. USA is service jobs and scamvestments. Euro is tourism
>>524551919>The UK is included in that percentage.its not you absolute tard. the UK is not in the EU. the stats youre referring to are about the EU and its % share in the world economy
>>524551966>China is manufacturing.tofu dreg literally worthless commieblocks (there's more empty apartments than people, so they will never be bought, so theyre worthless, actually negative worth as you have to pay for upkeep) and highways to nowhere and HSRs used by noone running on deficitall that being simply a pyramid scheme that relied on extraordinary growth which China had before 2020 but not since
>>524551995You're right. 15% for the EU, and 20% for Europe itself. I must have mistaken my statistics for this one. I looked into the statistics again just to refresh myself. Europe itself was 31% of the global economy in 08 before the crash, and today is 20%. So you have actually dropped around the same amount. Not exactly halving, but still falling off a fucking cliff.
>>524551603Your kids will live under Islamic law and African social conditions. Sorry wojtek, demographics are destiny
>>524551603I always found it interesting how americans bitched and moaned about EU not having massive techbro sector, especially taunting EU for not joinig this retarded AI race.
>>524551603nobody is allowed to benefits from Europe supposed "wealth", it's a closed bubble made to funnel all form of resourse in the hands of the unelected bankers that pay for the politic clown shows on TV. quality of life was better in the 80's for shit sake.
>>524551995>>524552486For reference, in that same time period, the US went from 23% to 26%, and China went from 7% to 16%. You're claiming the two countries that ate your slice of the pie have fake economies when your own economy is on a downward trend that goes back decades.
>>524551603You're delusional
>>524551603I can't imagine anyone pretending this dogshit continent has a sensible economy. Also lmao at "China is going to collapse in a month" post #501
>>524552746US is geting its % from AI bubble. So have fun when it all goes crashing down eventually.You are the type of an idiot who will literally sell the rope to the commie to get hanged for some % margin on sale.
>>524552690>especially taunting EU for not joinig this retarded AI race.the problem is the EU did join the retarded LLM race, France has Mistral and its pretty good and theyve invested billions into it when LLMs are a retarded and useless dead end, basically financial fraud
i like how corpos think LLMs are literally AI when they're not and actually argue with you about it despite it not being able to make snake in simple scripting languages without a programmer fixing it afterwards.no need to compress optimize and you know improve the formula first just go back to building sized computers again and fuck gamers am I right?you deserve the nuclear war you have incited.
>>524551680What does "global economy" mean here exactly. Three tech company printing infinity money between themselves? Government paying for massive phantom cities?
>>524552098chinks are catching up massively to western productsthey make products that match and sometimes even exceed the quality of west made products, like xiaomi phones with its super charge capability. Westoids are scared shitless, especially americans since they decided the best way to make profit is to go enshittification route, make products that break and fall apart forcing another sale or put everything behind paywall copyright forcing you repair your shit at OEM stores which will charge you more than product is worth.https://youtu.be/IU7ADs5auI8?t=1681
>>524552843AI is a weird portion of the economy. A high risk R&D bet. Europe, by comparison, can’t even afford the buy in. Could we lose the bet, sure, but that is the nature of R&D. Saying we have a high risk economic strategy doesn’t make your economy better, or change the downward trend. Every year for the last 20 years, Europe has become poorer. By every metric, not just nominal GDP. PPP, Nominal GDP, living standards, crime statistics, wealth inequality, the whole gambit has a downward trend going back decades, with seemingly no plan to improve this. For christ sakes, the Germans passed 50% of the population being renters in this time period. Half of the largest economy in Europe can’t afford to purchase a home. So continue to be a hater for the economy's growing if that helps you sleep at night. It won’t help you pay your bills.
So it's the yuropean centuryI guess poland will now import 10 million pajeets.
>>524552898I think I've noticed a trendThe more country tries to pretend it's not 2nd world country slipping into 3rd world hellhole, the more obsessed it is about AI. I wonder how UK goes on about AI, probably has some deals with USA on it so they're personally disinterested.
>>524553224You prove over and over that you are an idiot. But I guess you are all there like that. Uneducated retards that need to get those migrants to tell you how to do stuff because your heads are full of shit.AI is long past being high risk RnD bet. It is bubble. It isn't getting better for 2 years now. Only thing it got better at is generating AI made porn. The rest of it do not develop. I use it daily in work, I have friend with PhD who makes his papers about AI. And it is a fucking bubble. Not a bet. You already lost this bet.And then you go rambling about house ownership as if it is connected to GDP and aother magic kabbalah numbers you worship. It isn't. I am from post commie shithole where economy did crash. But 90% of people in crashing economy had their own homes. Because housing/home owenrship is not connected to GDP. But you just have to take your head out of your ass and look at data from many different places to check it out.And many people in Europe and USA cannot afford housing exactly because retards like you are in charge who decided housing is investment and not the place to live. Adam Smith knew housing is not an investment. Xi Jinping knows housing is not an investment (at least publicly states so). But retards like you? OMG WE HAVE GDP GROWTH AND NOONE CAN AFFORD HOWUSING ?!?! How did that happen? Well if you are really smart you would know. But we can all se you are just another idiot chasing %% in excel spreadsheet not understanding where they come from.
>>524551603WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS IMAGE???AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>524552995In the US, that looks like data centers the size of towns, factories moving back, steel plants opening, dozens of energy plants being greenlit, and nuclear plants being built for the first time since Chernobyl. In China, that looks like industrial parks growing every year, rare earth manufacturing being built, and shipyards going online. At the same time, megacorporations are investing the GDP of small countries to fund an R&D project that makes the internet look like a minor accomplishment. Compared to Europe, I would call these tangible economic gains. For christ sake your closing nuclear plants to convert them into coal plants. Fueled by coal mined in West Virginia, we are building nuclear plants. Europe's economy has been falling steadily for 20 years. Is the AI economy weird and possibly dangerous? Yes. Does that change a 20 year economic downturn across every economy in Europe? No. Europe has lost the equivalent of India, Japan, South Korea, and Australia in GDP in the last 20 years.
>>524553616>For christ sake your closing nuclear plants to convert them into coal plants. Fueled by coal mined in West Virginia, we are building nuclear plants.You can easily check the data to see that it is only Germans who did it and they fucked themselves over because they planned to do gas power plants fueled by cheap Russian gas and Russians fucked them over with war. France runs in 80-90% on nuclear. Rest of Europe is building or planning building nuclear.And you want to talk about global economy when you cannot even factcheck and you have no idea what happens in Europe. Just shut the fuck up about thing you have no idea about retard.
>>524553534You can claim AI is a bubble all you like, but that doesn’t address the point I made. We can afford to take that risk, and Europe can’t come up with a plan to grow its economies at all. I was using the percentage of the population renting as a tangible metric of living standards deteriorating, and income inequality. Which would be self evident if you had a reading comprehension level above the 5th grade. But none of this addresses my point. Your economies are shrinking, and you're calling the economies that are growing fake. Cope, or are you just incapable of reading economic data? Which is it russian rape spawn?
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>>524553157xiaomi phones are either dogshit or cost the same as iphones while still being shit
>>524553873Oh, so your largest economy(Germany) can’t manage its energy grid? Happens to be the one with the largest 2nd sector. Your second largest economy(the UK) is investing in wind so heavily that it is turning on coal plants to deal with the curtailment issue. So only one of your three biggest economies can handle basic infrastructure without fucking it up. It isn’t just Germany that is having issues with energy generation on a basic infrastructure level, which is resulting in the opening of coal plants.
>>524554376>xiaomi phones are either dogshitdepends on what you expect from phoneif you want them to be a flashy status trinket, yeah they are dogshit
>>524551680People realized what to buy and what not
>>524551603>China is actually faltering since 20202 more weeks to China's total collapse bro this time for real for real no pointy chinky cap in sight
>>524551603>he doesn't know about the "everything bubble"
>>524551603There's no country or continent that is doing well per se. No one is doing well. Everyone is in a mode of degradation. Population expansion on the planet must cease. If Europe wants to survive it needs to close its borders to the outside influence that will destroy it. This will not happen because of you know who.
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>>524554912I will admit the worst car I have ever owned came from a German car company. Never buy a Volkswagen. They are fucking money pits. They are designed horribly, too. I never understood how annoying overengineering can be until I bought a Volkswagen. I am pretty sure you had to lift the fucking engine out of the car to even get to the radiator. Why would you do that? No other car does that. It's fucking stupid.
>>524551603keep coping while>people in the US are queuing up for their daily 30 USD sandwich which confuses and enrages the European>experienced doctor or lawyer in Europe has salary of a McDonalds manager in the US>Europe is buying more drugs and medical equipment from the US and European citizens are looking at tax and social security rates growing faster than salaries>people in the UK can't afford fucking heating bills without gov subsidies which is unheard of in the US https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/oct/01/homes-in-great-britain-brace-for-winter-with-soaring-energy-debtssure, European model has solid foundations and is sustainable xD
>>524555451When are you moving back to Israel?
>>524551603The EU has a higher industrail output per capita than China. It also contributes to 6% of global Co2 emissions while china does 30%.Chinks are pests that need to be controlled.
>>524551680>EU economy has basically halved in the last 20 years.Retard alert. Europe is a developed economy, the rest of the 3rd world just incresed its share (and is still a poor 3rd world shithole)
