And psychiatrists and associated "professionals" (quacks) just want to know your mood, thoughts, behaviors so they can label you with a diagnosis and start pumping you up with pills. Your whole life and situation is not even discussed and if you ever get angry about society or your family and injustices done to you, then you are very ill and potentially dangerous according to psychiatry. Psychiatry protects the evil and pathologizes those who have suffered evil. It's perhaps the most insidious social control mechanism ever invented. Society can be as evil as it wants, but you can never, ever blame society, let alone its elites or authority figures. They are blameless and perfect. If you cast blame, the system will come down on you. You are there to take the system's abuse and like it.
>>524553414Because how the system is setup, short of you having proof of active abuse (ie your dads balls deep on the regular or you have bruises that match abuse) they legally aren't allowed to do a god damn thing, and its really fucking disheartening. Not gonna give out my sob story but I grew up rough, and I ran with a lot of people who grew up even worse than I did, institutionalized, the whole works. Most psychiatrists are unironic greedy jews, the one I had was a straight up pedophile. My grandfather slipped up and mentioned I was getting a physical for marching band. Every fucking two weeks this slimy jew saw me and asked to fondle my balls. The American mental health care system is fucked. I've got a really funny story about a schizo groid I was locked up with one time
>>524553414if they're not also a neurosurgeon their OPINION is worthless and they can eat a bag of dicks frankly.
>>524553583Please elaborate in graphic detail.and i promise I won't masturbate to it.... ( I will ;3 )
>>524553414How does someone like this not just get a gun and mow down their pedophilic family years later?
>>524553832> entire field is based on self-reporting> your opinion is worthlessSeems legit.
Sure, it's reddit, but this sub has some good info.The point of this post is that psychiatric drugs make you "emotionally flat," meaning you don't experience much emotion anymore and are like aa robot. The commenter here is saying this isn't a side effect, but in fact it's the point of those drugs, so that you become an obedient robot who is no threat to the system and can probably even serve the system now in a job or whatever.https://www.reddit.com/r/Antipsychiatry/comments/1pwwyty/what_if_emotional_flattening_isnt_a_side_effect/
>>524553583>I've got a really funny story about a schizo groid I was locked up with one timelets hear it I was in a mental hospital for an evaluation the week Whitney Houston died This drug addict I was talking to kept saying "she got the good shit" lol Then a couple weeks after I was released there was a mass shooting at that same mental hospital lol The staff at the mental hospital were actually the most respectful and the last mental health people I've dealt with in my life. (probably because I was chill and just told them what was going on and they let me go after an evaluation)
>>524554083The costs to rehabilitate people from trauma is so much higher than just putting them on pills.
>>524554156>mass shooting at that same hospitallmao yeah that sounds about right. I got put in for a week and some change at a little shithole in Jacksonville FL. Neat little thing not a lot of people know about, back in Florida if you're under 18 and are seen as a risk to yourself or others, ANY authority figure can report you to the police under the Baker Act. After which you are detained in a mental facility until a psychiatrist deems you fit to leave. But I digress, funny nigger story.>attempted OD at fifteen>hospitalized for a few days>straight to the jacksonville mental health place>arrive at night, brought into a side room for an interview>as I'm interviewing I hear ungodly screeching in the hall by the door>see one of the chairs I was sitting in fly down the fucking hallway>the dude doing my interview just nervously smiles and tells me to ignore it>next day I meet the groid in question>genuine barely functional schizo>talks about clowns stalking him at the end of his bed and other wacko shit>the other niggers there like fucking with him because he was an easy target>they get him going on a little "bit">the bit being he walks up to you, asks for "you draws" then keeps trying to get your underwear from you>he does this to one of the male nurses>nurse tells him to cut the shit>schizo groid starts chimping out>nurse radios for someone>the other groids start chanting "Booty juice, booty juice, booty juice">come to find out "booty juice" was a sedative they shot in your assThat place was fucking mental man. Third night we got a 13 year old nympho who flashed her cunt to someone and got transferred immediately, one of the groids from the female wing went ape shit one day during activities, grabbed a bunch of pens from the help desk and started clawing at her arms with them while beating on the doors.
>>524553414Psychiatry and psychology attracts the type of people who enter that kinda profession. Its kinda designed from the ground up to just control people who can’t be controlled any other way. You see dudes in prison get transferred to a forensic hospital the day before there release and just disappeared into the system… i could go on about the structural design of the system itself lending itself to systemic abuse by other authorities. It’s not there to help you.
>>524553954Probably because the dad wasnt pedo and just hugged her once and her libshit teachers told her that was him raping herThese nutcases that hate their families are almost always unable to prove any of the slander they dump on their betters.
>>524554551lol, a cruise line recently killed someone with the booty juice Also that poor girl probably got molested a lot and is just a liability to everyone there sounds like a tough situation
>>524553414>Why does psychiatry NEVER ask about family or life situation?As you alluded to, because psychiatry is about prescribing drugs, not about fixing problems. Asking about homelife and family relationships in the context of identifying issues to fix them behaviorally or relationally does nothing to help them prescribe patients more drugs. Not only does it not help them, it if successful only hurts their ability to get you on a cocktail of bullshit.
>>524554257>The costs to rehabilitate people from trauma is so much higher than just putting them on pills.Still a horrible thing to do though, when a society's answer to a person from an awful, abusive family or other environment who has bad trauma is subjected to lobotomy in pill form as a way to make them "not a nuisance."
>>524555325It's a dogedog world out thereI don't want to be a burden, and I don't want to take on other people's burdens. I don't want to pay taxes to this just shoot them. The nuisance will clear itself up without pills because the genetics will begin to correct
>>524553414Because psychiatry and psychology is like HR in company. It isn't there to help you. It is ther for company's sake and only sometimes helping you helps company. Other that that it is there to keep you working your ass for company. In case of psych- it is to keep you working for society and not to help you. And if you are too rebelious, since they cannot kill you (well in Canada they can put you on MAID) they will put you on drugs so you shut the fuck up and work.This is why psychiatry is fraud.There are of course some psychiatrists who try to do a good job, like there are maybe some HR people who do good job (doubt it), but most of them are frauds.
>>524553414You are mentally ill, take you meds you crazy insane freak.
I thought I would add my 2 cents worth. Umm, best to distinguish between a Psychiatrist, a Psychologist, a Psychoanalyst, and a Counsellor. Possibly we could even talk about Shamanic Healers. The choice of therapist type is quite large really. So for example, a Psychiatrist could also be a Psychologist. Or, for example, a Psychiatrist could also be a Psychoanalyst. Or you could have someone who is a registered Psychologist as well as being a Psychoanalyst. So they are different fields, and could offer different solutions. I just wanted to put that forward by saying, that Psychiatry could be different, depending on what and how the Psychiatrist thinks. (will continue).
This is Dr Josef, he was a Psychiatrist (I believe him when he gives over his life history), but he realised that the Psychiatric approach to mental health is corrupt, destructive and possibly evil. Have a look at his video regarding how Medical Doctors approach so-called "Depression" and how destructive and, I would even go so far as to say "evil" the Medical approach to mental health has become. There are number of factors at work that leads to these results. But have a look at his video regarding "Never tell a Doctor that you are Depressed". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxZccQ7J-XA
>>524553414 It's jewish. That's all we need to know.Chapter 241The Lord showed me two pots of figs, prepared before the Temple of the Lord...2One pot [contained] very good figs like the first ripe figs, and the other pot [contained] very bad figs that could not be eaten because they were so bad. 3And the Lord said to me; What do you see, Jeremiah? And I said, "Figs. The good figs are very good, and the bad ones are very bad, which cannot be eaten because they are so bad." ('They shall be put to shame since they have committed abomination. Neither are they ashamed nor do they know to feel disgrace. They will, therefore, fall among the slain; at the time I have visited upon them, they will stumble, says the Lord. יב. . I will utterly consume them, says the Lord. There shall be no grapes on the vine, nor figs on the fig tree; even the leaves will be withered, for what I gave them they transgressed. ')(Yeshua went to it because it had leaves. It was a variety they named, "Benoth Shuach", a kind of white fig that ripened over a period of three years. It should have had figs from three different years on it.)
The Medical approach to mental health is retarded and destructive to say the least. Even to say "Mental Health", is, in a sense not actually addressing what people need on a social, emotional and nutritional level. So imagine this scenario, just a fictional case study. So a woman comes into her Doctor and tells him the following:> my husband is a violent individual who has links with criminal gangs> my husband beats me in front of the children> my husband beats the children> my husband has a gun collection and has threatened to kill me and the children on numerous occasions> my husband will fire a pistol near my head while I sleep to intimidate my and terrify me> my husband kills the children's pets in front of them, and tells the children that "they are next"So, that being said, the Doctor will say the following:> you have Depression> Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain> the anti-Depressants that I am going to prescribe you will correct that chemical imbalance> you will need to take these anti-Depressants for the rest of your life> your 15 minute sessions is overObviously, this is a fictional, and somewhat exaggerated example, but it gets across what I am trying to say, the main point being that the person's psycho-social framework is simply ignored, dismissed even, and the "patient" is thrown mind altering and life-destroying pharmaceuticals to change their mood. By way of paraphrasing this idea, I could use the following metaphor: > just keep your hand in the fire, and take pain killers to remove the signal that alerts you to the damage being caused by the flame> also, just ignore the burnt flesh smellThis is just the current Western medical model, and is obviously retarded, and destructive.
>>524556764There was a guy in France who was commited and ended up in psych-ward. After he was released he faked his psychiatrist papers and became ordinator of psych-ward he was commited to earlier. Thanks to him patients were treated better and commitments fell as he didn't want to go around and drug people like "proffessionals".All in all - if our societies were sane and healthy to begin with noone would need psychiatrists but those who really have some brain defects like schizophrenia.
>>524553414They do oftentimes provide paths to remission for people suffering mental illnessesThe thing with the reddit post story you reference is that it was a case of no consequenceWhen republican child rapists try to weaken "compulsory reporter" laws this is what they enableMakes me think of that fat rapist whoreson, the whore female judge and his pig psycho mother that conspired together to get a slap on the wrist for what the fat rapist would-be murderer jesse admitted to in oklahomahttps://abcnews.go.com/US/parents-oklahoma-teen-sex-assault-victim-speak-after/story?id=128274452It's more about corruption, unaccountability, impunity and the fucked up way american healthcare "works" than psychiatrists in general having no merit>>524553933People like you deserve to get cancelledHell, they even deserve to get curbstomped and worseDeath to pedophiles and death to psychopathic subhumans
>>524557116Yeah basically this. "So what's wrong with your life?""I hate my job and I'm surrounded by fuckwits.""I see. Let's work on some coping strategies and try you on an SSRI""I was just going to move and work a different job?"
>>524557128Truth, mamy lack community, meaning and a reasonable hope for a better future being possible and bejng inflected in part by them tooIt's also in part due to the parasistic, rootless, international capital system and oligarch vampires we are forced to cede our socities life force to due to the acquiescene of our democratic "representatives" Nothing like a good staking in these mediaval ages, rest in piss brian thompson and that wretched blackrock erfüllungsgehilfe
if you are a mental health doctor everything looks like a brain induced problemmost mental illness is socially induced and rational
>>524557248Dude its srsly just for research;3
>>524553414Psychiatry doesn’t exist to cure it anything, it just treats the symptoms through medication. It’s like a doctor prescribing painkillers for a tooth infection without actually solving the root of the problem.
>>524556855And this kind of retards are similar to psychiatrist.>the world is fucked up and everyone is insane>you need magical jew in your life!!!1111
>>524556855>It's jewish. That's all we need to know.Please no. How can you say such a thing and expect to be taken seriously ? The current disastrous and destructive aspects of the Western medical model regarding so-called "Mental Health" are much more in line with the dehumanising aspects of the industrial society in which we live. Look, I am Jewish, so if you want, just ignore my response. Personally, I am a firm advocate of a traditional family life for whatever religion where you currently find yourself. But what I can say, and I honestly believe this, is that being religious does not help with Mental Health issues, things like Schizophrenia, Autism and Alexithymia cannot be cured by religious observance. For example, there was a guy who became a moslem, then, surprise, surprise, religious conversion didn't help so much with the unwanted same sex attraction, so his new Islamic buddies came around and beat the living daylights out of him. My wife said, "well, if you call for Pizza, you are going to get Pizza". I guess we could say that these moslems don't to sophisticated therapeutic interventions. But anyway, I see people fail in regards to using religious observance as a mechanism to heal their traumatic, and tragic lives. Also the entire religious experience can become corrupted as the persons own internal contradictions are manifested through religious observance. This is such a complex topic.
>>524557116No average psychiatrist will act that way, you are acting as if this comically corrupt _imaginary_ scenario you pulled out of your dumbass here is reflective of the average cases when it isn't even present in outliers due to being such an asspull.If all you have to say is such stupidities then it is better to just remain silent.
Imagine that you go to a Psychoanalyst, or even if you started getting onto the Psychoanalytic literature, the entire therapeutic experience is centered around the person's life history. In absolute intricate detail. I strongly recommend this, but this isn't going to be for everyone.
>>524557479Don't be so fast to judge. I see Psychiatrists and Doctors doing these kind of tricks, pretty much all the time. There is an incredibly limited period of time that the patient is allowed with the Doctor/Psychiatrist, and the person's life history is ignored, the person's current psycho-social situation is ignored, the person's nutritional situation is simply ignored. This is what I see, almost endlessly, this is what people talk about almost endlessly, and yet, you seem to think that I have simply pulled this issue "out of thin air". Really ??
>>524554083>a psychiatrists job is to make you healthy enough to work. They don’t care about you or how you feelDamn even Reddit knows what’s up.
>>524553414I always ask. Why do patients always lie to me?
>>5245577001.raised by single drug added prostitute mother2.she got a dui and I had to drive her to hotels and wait in the car3. Id get woken up all hours of the night to drive her4. Coast to coast am
>>524557674They may not even want to know how you feel. Look, I could sit here for the next 10 hours and make posts, and still not run out of things to say on the matter. There is an entire set of literature regarding the blocking out of emotions and a person's emotional life that is manifesting in the condition called Alexithymia. Dealing with Alexithymics, pretty much will send someone insane. They have no understanding or even vision of the human condition. The biggest problem with Alexithymia is the somatisation of emotions. Emotions cannot be erased, or "put somewhere else", but many people cannot cope with emotions.
This one is interesting from Dr Josef of the taper clinic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl8XjRELySYIt is how the paleo diet can help with Schizophrenia and Mania. Highly, highly interesting. Once again, the Medical model hides or obscures the role of diet and its' effects on the human psyche (the mind). This is the thing, it's like the entirety of the Transsexualism disaster, where an obviously psychological condition in which the person is in a great deal of psychological pain, this is entirely hidden from the current medical model, and a purely physical approach is put forward of castration, genital mutilation and life destroying hormones is put forward as a solution. The entire current Medical model is broken and corrupt.
>>524553414>Why does psychiatry NEVER ask about family or life situation?because nobody can fix your shit for you, you fucking retard.you cannot help someone who does not want to be helped and a great way to have your patient stop turning up to appointments is to try and convince them that their parents are fucked when the patient does not agree. all you can do is offer support, safe space, availability, and guidance when requested.for example: you are wholly wrong about psychiatry and have a delusional grievance/persecution complex regarding the healthcare system, as do many mentally ill people. i used to work in criminal law and i would see it all the fucking time, people who hate doctors and hospitals and shit because they "won't help" when in reality the person's expectations and demands are totally fucking insane and incomprehensible. psychiatry is fully fucking aware of the importance of early childhood and family relations and there are many and good reasons why the field operates as it does and many lazy bad excuses for why it doesn't work as well. but all of this nuance and expertise means nothing to you because your brain doesn't work and this psychodrama you're acting out is just to fill your own emotional needs and disordered behaviour.this is a fact.and you will not and cannot accept it and nobody can make you. you have to come to this realisation on your own.that's why psychiatrists don't bother arguing with their patients about whether or not they're sick. do you want help? okay. do you not? then fuck off, because there's someone else in line who does and the world has better things to do than try and save you from yourself while you fight it every fucking step of the way. just fuck off and die.
>>524554083>The commenter here is saying this isn't a side effect, but in fact it's the point of those drugs, so that you become an obedient robot who is no threat to the system and can probably even serve the system now in a job or whatever.actually it's to stop you from fucking killing yourself.normal function > flat affect > suicidality and then deadfucking retard.
>>524553414> yeah but how does that effect you, personally, or directly, can't you just ignore societal X and Y thing and just take some pills, anonthis is what every shrink is selling. Drug induced delusion but they think they are superior to priests of old - shrinks are the fuel behind narcissistic culture
>>524558470no, you're just a pussy and you didn't have a strong father
>>524554551Being in an actual mental institution quickly humbles you and whatever depression anxiety you have will seem like a nothingburger
>>524558398>do you want help?>here’s benzos and SSRIs because mommy slapped you onceSure faggot
>>524558968awww did you want him to come pick you up at your place and drive you to the gym for you?what the fuck did you expect him to do cunt. you're a fat lazy piece of shit and all he has is pills. you can have the pills or fuck off, the choice is always yours, but he's not your fucking daddy and he can't make you not be a piece of shit.
>>524559008>REEEEEELol holy shit I’ve never been to a psyche in my fucking life and never needed one. You retards have a weird mix of God Complex and an overwhelming apathy for your patients
>>524559247>Lol holy shit I’ve never been to a psyche in my fucking life and never needed onefrom where do you derive your strong opinions about what they're like and how psychiatry works then, you fucking idiot?you're just a retard repeating things you heard somewhere else to literally virtue signal about what side you're on.lmao
>>524558398>because nobody can fix your shit for you, you fucking retard.You are correct, and I do agree with you. Possibly, I would have said it differently. The mentality of people coming into the medical system, presenting themselves to a Doctor or Psychiatrist and demanding "you are the Doctor and you will now fix me". This isn't how life works. This is the Western medical mindset where the Doctor will somehow "fix" the person. That Medical model does not match the human experience. Working through the emotions, and feeling the pain and horror of one's childhood that is the way out, and is hard, painstaking work which requires a long term commitment on a personal level. The idea that the "Doctor will fix me"™, how did we get here ? But in that context of "The Doctor will fix me" thing such as Electro Shock Therapy, Psychosurgery (lobotomies, etc), Insulin Coma, etc, etc actually make sense. Basically, what I am saying is that the paradigm is corrupt, and does not match what humans need in order to get better. That said, what does "get better" even mean ? Does it mean "shut the patient up, and get them to stop complaining" ? What if getting better meant devoting one's entire life to healing past trauma, and being the turning point generation which no longer believes in necessary to abuse their children. Often there is a strong inter-generational component to these issues. Once again, I could sit here for the next 10 hours talking about this shit.
They collect paychecks don't solve the world problems
>>524558874>an actual mental institutionI remember speaking to someone who had a psychotic breakdown, and was sent to a mental institution and I asked them "so regarding your group therapy experiences while you were inside, was it ineffective, or damaging ?¨, and they replied "both". Kind of telling.
>>524553414with 20 i was put into psychatry and labeled schizo manic-depressive. reality: i was just a little faggot that couldnt deal with the world.they told me to my face it was incurable and i need to take their pills for the rest of my life. like literally they meant it as if i dont take them i die and its terminal etc.i got off that shit as fast as i could. its a scam and you know why? they get paid by the pharma companies for every new customer "they hook". a big fat premium. of course its all coveted in nice sounding jewish words like "compliance" etc. And the psycho docs get paid a fortune by the health insurance...its only about the money, absolute joke. they have no problems pumping you full for life with that shit and ruining you for a few shekels.
Psychiatry is a scam; they can drug you up and no more.One admitted to me that individual psychology is as immutable as genetics, and all this therapy was useless.
>>524553414>Why does psychiatry NEVER ask about family or life situation?They do. If you believe they don't just from one reddit post you are retarded.
>>524556609>ashenazi jew>mizari jew>separdic jew....
healthy = able to work. thats the paradigm and pretty much tells you all you need to know about the systems in place.>fuck your wellbeing, get the fuck back to work>oh btw times are hard so well raise your payments to the health system while reducing what you get out of it teehee
They do. That is a huge part of it.
>>524553414psychiatry is mostly a scamnone of their diagnoses are realthe fact that their drugs sometimes work is mostly cause they get you hightheir literature has like a 5-10 year citation diameterthey might actually be worse than new age CBT practitioners
>>524556764Excellent video
>>524557128reminds me of gert postel, a mailman that faked being a psychiatristhe was by far the most competent in "his" job and became the go to expert regarding court casesdid it for five years until someone reckognized himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk46Gtcd8eU
>>524557116I think your example is excessively hyperbolic. There is a duty to report in American medicine. I would have to call the cops on the husband in your scenario. That being said, you're right, a healthcare provider has to CARE about a person to do a good job taking care of them. If you absolutely don't give a fuck about who you're treating, it's going to show. Why normies trust that random strangers are going to give enough of a shit not to brainrape them is another problem entirely. Psych isn't there for you.
>>524553414take your meds, Steve
>>524557385>>524553933based troll
>>524554083>>524554257>>524555325>>524555585People with PTSD that learn to survive on their own, survive not live, are also typically emotionally flat unless they are overwhelmed and then angry or sad usually. Yes, it is the point of the drugs, because stabilizing something is necessary. Psychiatry is bullshit in that it keeps people there because of yes, cost. Even for myself, my family could just agree that the emotional comfort of a couple people isn't worth more than my life and sanity, but simply refusing to go along with my grandmother's delusions that her favorite grandchild isn't a pedophile is apparently too much so I spend thousands on therapy and now am at the point I have to cut most of my family out of my life because being asked to stay silent and suffer for decades is hell.
its crazy how much leaving the city and moving into a little house innawoods and being a bit moew self reliant completely cured my mental health
