"It didn’t go unnoticed in Frankfurt that Visa and Mastercard suspended operations in Russia in March 2022 after the invasion of Ukraine……Thirteen of the 20 countries in the euro have no domestic card scheme. You use an international operator, or you pay in cash."It hasn't gone unnoticed that the US is threatening to invade an EU country's (Denmark) territory, either. Would a future President Trump or President Vance threaten to shut down European financial infrastructure if it opposes an annexation of Greenland? Who knows, but better to take away that opportunity for leverage.The plan is that you can link it to your bank account or open a special account at post offices throughout the EU. There will be phone apps for payments and digital Euro debit cards. Visa/Mastercard & Apple/Google Pay typically charge 3% fees; the digital Euro will have none. That will ensure it is speedily adopted by retailers and quickly supplants the US providers. Also worth noting its technology will be 100% European only, leaving zero vulnerability/leverage to non-Europeans.Digital euro: what it is and how we will use the new form of cash - The European Central Bank is determined to break the US grip on card payments
>>524553564Im sure this will go down well with America and China kek
>>524553858who cares, they will be busy
>>524553564What a scam. 0% transaction fee and later on increase it after you forced it on the population. Love the destruction of competition using my taxes.I'm not a big fan of the EU.
Powerful0% fees is great for restaurants who had to give 1% of their profit to American jews just when a customer decided to not pay in cash
>>524553858>>524554049I cannot hear you over all that American cock thrusting your throat.0% means it is paid by the tax payer but also that it is not a stock noted company that needs to grow indefinitely. Once the infrastructure is there, there will be barely any costs
>>524553564Interfering with "private banking"Mein Gott!Is such blatant antisemitism allowed in Germany?
>>524553564More crypto scams?
>>524554310> German flag> Sucking EU dickFigures
>>524553564This is hecking awesome sauce. That means all your transactions can finally be linked to your online ID that contains your personal details and biometric data, your digital tax files and online banking, and your electronic health record. Personalized advertisements will never be the same
anything that hurts the banks and jews is good.
>>524554310ignoring the recent censorship bs from visa/mastercard, cos let's be honest the EU are just as if not more censorious, at least they're honest about how they fuck you overgib money and we provide you convenient service, you really think the von der leyen isn't going to jew up the fees after everyone's been effectively forced onto her even more kiked system
>>524554422Indeed.And now we're at it> Swedish flag> bending over backwards for Jewish BankersFigures.Stereotypes are going strong today, aren't they.
>>524554231Let's be honest the real reason was to evade on income tax and value added tax.
>>524554426This is only a problem if you partake in society.
>>524554470Cool story Shlomo. You can continue to use Visa/Mastercard if you want.
>>524554426can we get rid of banks alltogheter?
>>524554540i use aircash,i think is some czech or croat prepaid card.works for me,i shit un the banking jews.
>>524553564i haven't had a (((bank))) account for over 10 years now
>>524553564global cyberattack that results in the replacement of fiat currency with digital currency you say?someone fucking shoot them already. preferably legally but, whoever at this point. its not a crime to survive planned atrocity like this. and if it is the law needs to go.
>>524554622I have never paid with a card in my entire life.
I'm optimistically hopeful.
>>524554428Anything that does gets the jfk treatment.If it’s allowed to happen it’s because the heeb profits from it.It isn’t your countryIt isn’t your bank
>>524554624>fiat currencythis needs to go at all costs.
>>524554665good for you,but sadly some stuff i order online only can be paid by crypto or by card.
>>524554565implying you use cash for anything, you use them because they're convenientmore competitors is better, but the fucking kiked EU dictators don't want to compete to improve the quality of the servicethey're doing it to force a monopoly on you, then fucking you over and restricting what you can spend your own money on
>>524553564actually a good thing, based
>>524554729we know but you're not replacing it we are thanks for playing and kill yourself illuminati scum. @ those involved not necessarily you anon.
>>524554758>Things that are only real in your head
>>524553564>Visa/MastercardI use a carte bleue (CB).
Fuck visa and mc. We will ban you.
What an absolute nightmare>You got the correct opinion there goi?>You're using OUR currency goi, didn't you read the fine print on page 527?>Clearly you agreed that we can empty your bank account to help rapefugees goiI hate life!
>>524553564Maybe they shouldn't have banned credit card surcharges. Master-card gives me chargeback. The digital euro will only be useful for porn.
>>524553564We don't need to adopt crypto-euro to have an European payment processor with its own card. Anyone claiming otherwise is a hostile entity
>>524554049>What a scam. 0% transaction fee and later on increase it after you forced it on the population.In Russia (only good thing government did, Central Bank in particular) to there is zero fees money transfer service for perosns called SBP. .Designed and operated by Central Bank. All banks must join this service, all personal bank accounts are eligible. Works via mobile app only, instant transfer, zero fees, some limitations on summs.Business bank transfers still pay 1-3% fees though.
>>524554897Dankort here (when I don't use cash)It's a combined thing (Visa/Dankort). But it automatically picks Dankort whenever that's an option, as it is already 0% fee like the thing "EU" wants to make - and have been since 1983 when it was introduced.And given that yours had been around for more than a decade back then, I guess we "stole" the idea from you.
>>524554884as fucked as my own nation is atm, at least we have legitimate ways out of the fuck upsyou're completely cucked to a fully kiked elite class whom you have 0 control over and yet you still believe you live in a democracyif you really believe that this won't be abused to spy on your every move and won't result in your purchasing options being restricted, then idk man guess you really are fucking cattle for your kiked overlords
>>524553564Digital currency is bad idea. Second system will find a way you are not good enough for them and in EURO communistic eyes everybody who isn't gay or black is they tag you and tell you that you won't be able to use any of that. European Union is anti-white and they want to kill every single European.
>>524554995>We don't need to adopt crypto-euro to have an European payment processor with its own card.See >>524555052No need for special "digital" currency. Works for all ruble personal accounts.
>>524554927and that different to visa and mastercard?Run by kikes.
>>524555081see >>524554565And damn, you sure are mad about obsoleting banks and credit jews kek
>>524554310Yes it will be zero costs just like your stupid free healthcare. You can see where this is going can't you?
>>524553564>Would a future President Trump or President Vance threaten to shut down European financial infrastructure if it opposes an annexation of Greenland? Who knows, but better to take away that opportunity for leverage.It took them 80 fucking years to figure it out? I hate liberals so fucking much.
>>524554927That's not how it's being designed at all.Learn to hate the EU for the huge amount of shit it actually does wrong, not stupid 5 rubel/yuan agitprop.
>>524555081>can we see your loicense to post sots 'eigh spees onlain saarcouldn't be me
>>524555081>then idk man guess you really are fucking cattle for your kiked overlordsnigga you are posting from uk.Have some shame.You literally let kikes have their own police for their own neighbourhoods.your right wing figure is tel aviv tommy robinson.How shameless can you be to talk?
>>524555141>You can see where this is going can't you?He doesn't and neither do most normalfags, that's why the scam works
>>524555201eu has better privacy laws than burgerlandia so it could be a good thing in the long run
Sweden just canceled up to 3G so my phone doesn't work as a phone anymore and I'm not rich and I don't plan to buy a new phone for them..Then they have to give out free phones and services too or their wet dream of digital currency will fuck over millions and commit genocide and increase crimes when people can't buy groceries with their own money
>>524553564It will never gain traction and I can tell you why.Here in Denmark we have the lowest card processing fees in the world. The list price is currently 1.25% for EEA issued privately held Visa and Mastercard. It's like this because we have a domestic scheme called Dankort which has a fee of 0.32%. Banks are religiously trying to get rid of Dankort because unlike with every international card scheme, they do not get paid a cut. A typical Visa/MC transaction sees 0.3% go to Visa/MC for keeping a directory (literally just a card number -> bank account number databse), a little less than that go to the bank for generously allowing their customers to pay for goods and services, and the rest goes to the acquirer that provides the only actually valuable service in acting as an insurer for the buyer (ie. the reason why you can tell your bank you didn't make that transaction and the money magically reappears in your account).On the plus side, if they try to ram this shit though the banks might just dispatch kill squads and rid us of some eurocrats.
>>524555257if you can afford ps5 you can afford a 150€ android phone
>>524555088>Digital currency is bad idea.Digital commerce and currency is a reality, but the existing Euro options are all shitty. Replacing physical currency with digital currency entirely is a bad idea, but that's a completely separate issue.Creditcard : American and censored and non anonymousSEPA-Instant : non anonymous, poor support (no mandatory QR support for bank apps)National shit : national shit
>>524555167>>524555184didn't deny my own nations fucked atm, difference is we can get things changed without resorting to mass violence, not really an option for EU provincesalso after his recent wall kissing visit, most people have realised how much of a fucking cuck tommy is, anyone in the know looks at him with disgust>>524555125cool, get rid of all banks and return to gold standard currency, I have no problem with thatthe question is which one is going to fuck you over more, visa/mastercard or the EU's new equivalent, neither of which will remove banks you mong
>>524555154>remember when that same president was warning them about their overreliance on Russian natural gas and they got those great video bits of their politicians laughing at him in the crowd?But no. The US is the enemy clearly looking to destabilize the EU, like they could drag your society down faster then their own leaders are by importing the third world, as though they paid no attention to the last 250 years of US racial politics and think they can somehow do it better through foolish good intentions.
>>524555141So what you're saying is that the government get to make the money on banking, instead of the Jewish bankers.Meaning that money end up in the same box as my taxes (which could then be reduced a bit) instead of paying for Shekelsteins private jet?How awful!
>>524555332>difference is we can get things changed without resorting to mass violenceno you can't stop kidding yourself
>>524553858China wont mind since the US will seethe.
>>524553564Then I guess US will have to invade them before they introduce it. Plenty of time since their bureaucracy will give the US at least 20 years of time. New American generation will be born on the annexed lands!
>>524554310>zero days without homosexual fantasies yep, it's a eurocuck
>>524555306Interchange fees are irrelevant, payment processors charge far more for backstopping charge backs. The reason creditcards are "cheap" to consumers is because the EU banned surcharges, so everyone pays.
For some reason /pol/cels will find a way to shit their pants in hysterical fear about this.
>>524555306Poland has its own BLIK system which only uses Mastercard when you pay using card terminal with it (would be hard to implement otherwise). For the other payments it is completely fee free. And noone is fighting it or killing anyone over it.
>>524555393unlike most of other nations, our parliament has complete sovereigntyprovided the right people get elected, things can change rapidlynot saying that will happen, but there is an option, even farage getting into office, as cucked as he is, will get some decent stuff done
>>524555374>Russia invades US pet project Ukraine>US blows EU pipeline to force us to join their pointless war>SEE? I WARNED YOU THAT RUSSIA BADkys
>>524554426That's already the case thoughever.
>>524555497based noticer
>>524555382Vi har Dankortet lige nu, din nar. Det er så godt som gratis til trods for at det er en direkte monopol og bankerne arbejder allerede overtid på at få det helt udfaset. Over de sidste 10 år er det gået fra at stå for 80% af Danske transaktioner til 50%. De har tilmed lige for et par måneder siden løget overfor hele landet om at fimadankort er ulovlige for at skille sig af med dem en gang for alle, og selvfølgeligt har de det fordi de får en betydeligt større del af kagen når du betaler 3.55% indløsningsgebyr på dit firma Mastercard.
>>524555491yeah,but they can go way worse.Remember brexit?
>>524555465it beats being a mobik I guess
>>524553564>EU to introduce European replacementThey already introduced that
>>524555328I have zero consoles as they're too expensive. Fuck I don't even have a TV as you guessed it.. TOO EXPENSIVE! It also only have absolute garbage shit but that's beside the point.My computer would be a decade old the coming year and I can't do any upgrades as I can't afford it..
>>524555497>>Russia invadessomehow you deduced this isn't bad at all. Either you are retarded or russian VPN shill.
>>524555789why dont you get a job?My first job 10 years ago earned me 300 euro/month.Now i earn 3k.
>>524555747we had 2 major issues, the kiked elite in our own nation and the kiked elite in the empire we were forced intowe've now left that kiked empire, so only 1 major issue remainingyou want Europe to become relevant again, destroy the EU and competition between the European nations can begin againwe literally conquered the Earth together before the EU, only thing that's happened since the EU is a perpetual decline
>>524555835thats were ziggers drop their mask usually.they dont even start to compute that attacking a country is bad.They just swallow some cope and get over it like its nothing.
>>524555497>Ukraine was US's pet projecthow much of a retard do you have to be?
>>524555878are you willing to serve in wars?Thats how you conquer the world retard.
>>524555835If at this point you don't know who provoked this war you are beyond help or a shill.
>>524554049VISA and kikecard currently have no competition, retard.
>>524555878>please join us in our misery, it's the only way you can winUnfortunately no EU country has decent leaders who would actually be able to make our lives better in any measurable way compared to what we have now. In principle you're right but the reality is our political class is beyond fucked and none of them would ever be capable of doing anything good.
>>524555966and who the fuck are you going to war for?some kiked elite class who's only interest is making gdp line go up? fuck noalso I don't want to reconquer the empire, just defend what is minemeaning we need to get rid of our own kiked elite first before any war would serve our own interests
>>524555141Payment processors actually make sense as a government run enterprise because their profit margins are so fucking massive. Visa and Mastercard have operating margins of 50%+ and gross profit margins of over 95%.The government could be half as efficient as these companies and the total cost to the consumer would be the same. But in reality if they operated as a government monopoly they could cut expenses by an amount equal to or greater than the added cost of their inefficiency, since so much of Visa and Mastercard's outlay is money they spend competing with each other. So even though the cost would still be borne by the public through tax instead of transaction fees, the total cost to the public could easily be half what it currently is. This is very different to things like healthcare where both hospitals and health insurers have operating profit margins in the single digits. It doesn't take much government inefficiency to eat through that profit margin and eventually start producing less for the same cost as the private sector. But this just isn't true for payment processors who enjoy some of the largest profit margins out of any industry of that size.
>>524556115>meaning we need to get rid of our own kiked elite first before any war would serve our own interestsyeah good luck 80 years ago your empire stopped just that because muh kikes.It was worth it?
>>524556107you can deal with your own local kiked elite, it takes years of effort but it's doable (even if it's all in my head, it's better than doomer faggotry and just accepting the permanent rape of your people)but you don't have any means of dealing with the EU leadership, beyond leaving>>524556196the empire was never for the interests of the common Englishman, young lads were still forced into being chimney sweeps at it's heightthe last war for our interests was probably Napoleon, considering he would've invaded us after taking out all of Europebesides, when's the last time your own elites did something that benefited the romanian people? stones in glass houses and all that crap
>>524555861I have a job but they don't pay more then they have to and if you just looked at taxes for this country, you'd have nightmares for the rest of your life.It used to be 8 hours, which left me with some money to save but then hoaxvid happened and they cut 2 hours from all employees and unless you've missed it, ALL prices across the board has increased.. My salary has not.The system fucked me over but I've tried
>>524556124>But in reality if they operated as a government monopoly they could cut expenses by an amount equal to or greater than the added cost of their inefficiencyKek, are you new?The government will just make it more exspensive and waste all the extra money on corruption and welfare.
>>524556403>when's the last time your own elites did something that benefited the romanian people?1450
>>524556045>provokedlel. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and waged war against Ukraine since then because Ukraine chose non-russian loving president. Russia also attacked Georgia in 2008. Who provoked them there?You are discovered VPN Ivan. You can stop your charade.
>>524556572learn a new skill and apply for a better payng job.
>>524556045https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohdan_Khmelnytskyyou were attacking ukraine and betrayng their trust circa 1500
>>524556682why do you keep insisting in this braindead shit when fucking biden said that expanding NATO to ukraine would cause russia to invade a decade before it happen, or when the fucking head of NATO openly admitted that's the casue russia invaded, or when the current fucking president of the US admits so?do the everybody else a favor and stop wasting oxygen
>>524556851>when fucking biden said that expanding NATO to ukraine would cause russia to invade a decade before it happen,Explain why didn't Russians invade Baltics.
>>524556710That would mean going to school or similar which is a cost I cannot afford.I work with my hands and have for like 15 years or so and it would be easy to just switch to be something similar but then PFAS (or whatever reason really) gave me PPMS so it's not like I don't want to switch but I'm between a rock and a hard place financially to warrant a new job and my current company is kinda stuck with me as they can't just fire me for PPMS as that'd be discrimination and I could sue them for neglecting me and they know that so they suffer with me as I do my best. I'm not as effective as I was, no. But I didn't choose to get PPMS either
>>524556851why should russia invadea country?Its not like any country will invade russia,thats a suicide mission.A country spanning half a globe should not have a reason to gain more teritorry.If russia only language is might,bombs and flames should engulf it.Simple as.
>>524557100>PPMSyeah....good luck buddy
>>524555141lol mutts seething about our functional healthcare system againhow mad does it make you that every citizen can get the treatment they need without going into debt or thinking twice?you are fucking green with envy
>>524553858It will still probably be kikes managing the whole system so nothing changes
/pol/ in every thread except this one>cbdc bad aaaa/pol/ now>here’s why that’s a good thing
>>524557121why should america invadea country?Its not like any country will invade america,thats a suicide mission.A country spanning half a globe should not have a reason to gain more teritorry.If america only language is might,bombs and flames should engulf it.Simple as.
>>524557169Seeing as you work for globalhomo. Could you ask them if they'd be willing to offer a firearm to someone that just wants to end it quickly and effectively with no chance of survival?Cheap cost to get rid of a citizen that cannot follow the changes to your wet dream and if you just wait you could even get the firearm back so a criminal couldn't take it.Ask them
>>524557415i shit on america too,trannyland full of pedo kikes.You already forgot how early in the thread i shat on banks?or are you do not have nuanced thinking?what flags do you see at these protests :)? Do you think russia is much different or america?The only advantage for europe is that america is far far away,comparing it to russia.>>524557585you dont really want to do it,otherwise you would had jumped from a building.you are just depressed,go to therapy and read some books.You talk about globohomo but seems like their social stadards are affecting you more than me.The secret is to ignore them from the most part.
>>524553564>zero feesIt's more like the picrel.
>>524557834Oh but I do but Europe has banned firearms or I'd not be here today.I'm not gonna jump and risk surviving and have a bleed heart retard get me to a hospital and become a vegetable in a bed, kept alive against my will
>>524554231>0% fees is great for restaurants who had to give 1% of their profit to American jews just when a customer decided to not pay in cashIf it is like ours, then 0% for people. Businesses will pay a percentage.
>>524557121>why should russia invadea country?We chose to fight now, and not in 20+ years under worse conditions.
My cunt is already introducing the digital ruble to totally rape any notion of personal financial privacy and establish total surveillance over our spending. Stop copying our homework, yurofags!
>>524555933did you forget all the corruption scandals that tied Biden's family to The Ukranian infrastructure projects?
>>524558529i respect the sincerity,but the army o shills online is annoyng at best,ig it works as intended.
>>524558553you forgot the russians oligarch tied to the whole structure o ukraine politics ?
>>524553564The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>524558588Euro cities (in Belgium, Germany, Italy, Sweden, and Ireland) to deploy a EU-funded trial of AI-surveilled cities. In Italy, Trento is one of them. Three systems are employed (the names themselves tell it all):>"Marvel", used to detect criminal acts>"Protector", used to protect places of worship from hate crimes>"Precrisis", used to identify any vulnerabilities in the monitored placesThe systems will detect suspect behaviors based on audio and video inputs, reporting them to law enforcement agencies. Fuck this shit! I'm waiting for this Chinese Union to collapse. The worst thing is that boomers cheer for these initiatives (the same retards who cheered for the scamdemic shenanigans).https://www.marvel-project.eu/impact/https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/de/ip_23_5651https://archive.is/YlQywhttps://unlimitedhangout.com/2023/03/investigative-reports/cia-and-mossad-linked-surveillance-system-quietly-being-installed-throughout-the-us/>Netanyahu was asked by Fox News host Mark Levin whether the large growth seen in recent years in Israel’s technology sector, specifically tech start-ups, was part of Netanyahu’s plan. Netanyahu responded, “That’s very much my plan … It’s a very deliberate policy.” He later added that “Israel had technology because the military, especially military intelligence, produced a lot of capabilities. These incredibly gifted young men and women who come out of the military or the Mossad, they want to start their start-ups.”
>>524558576I'm sure there are more than one set of fingers in the pie.
>>524553564>completey digital money>new form of cashThey just say whatever dumb shit they want, don't they?
>>524553564OY VEY GEVALT, THESE GOYIM WILL GET THEIRS!!!
>>524558673but of course.any moral agging is obsolete when it comes to war.its a land grab from russia,thats why they cant claim moral superiority,the cope and shill wars are makeup applied on a black eye.
>>524553564Another step towards the mark
>>524553564eu output has zero fundemental value, its 90% regulatory air and marketing. america builds actual utility. europe is basicallly just china with a premium pricetag... overpriced aesthetic innovation that solves nothing.
>>524553564>Your purchases this month are already above the CO2 limit allowed for your area.>Payment declined. Your CO2 budget will be reset on December 31 at 23:59.American kikes are only in it for the money, eurocrats want to fully enslave and control you for reasons of morality.
>>524555081>>524554470>>524554758To everyone replying to this person, know that in one of his posts, he claimed that the EU, by creating a public and free service to rival the predatory duopoly of Mastercard and Visa, which has stifled growth around the world, is terrible because it supposedly would result in 'no competition' and 'monopoly'.He is also from britain and calls the EU a 'dictatorship', which is a dead giveaway as well.
>>524553564Finally an alternative to Visa and Mastercard censorship!
>>524553564ok this means war
Ah yes cbdcsThis will go horrifically bad
>>524553564Trump's chimping us at least forcing us to get our act together. Setting this up is nothing difficult.
>>524553858China likes it, america i am not sure.
>>524553564> you stopped letting russians use visa because we are incapable of defending ourselves without international jewry> omg international jewry has power that we had them exercise, we need to seperate ourselveseuropoors constantly pandering to kikes and then larping about sovereignty is lulz
>>524560324Wildlife opinions are not welcome
>>524553564>and how we will use itWe simply wont use it.Deal with it, faggot.
>>524557338Flooded with shills obviosly
>>524553564>It didn’t go unnoticed in Frankfurt that Visa and Mastercard suspended operations in Russia in March 2022 after the invasion of UkraineDidn't a shitload of western European companies do the same thing at the same time for the same reason? Why is it only a bad thing when the kikes are legally domiciled on the other side of the Atlantic?
>No fees>Unless you buy something we don’t like>Unless we deem you to be someone we don’t like>Also give us all your data>No we won’t make the data public>Well except that data that belongs to people we don’t like when we need to trot out a new policy>Oh you want data on what our social program recipients are spending their money on?>Fuck off racist
>>524555469>BLIKIf Poland weren't a submissive, insecure dumbfuckland ruled by incompetent traitors, it'd be able to promote BLIK as an international option.
Or you could do the sensible thing and use cash for 0% fees. You think you hate card processors enough but you don't.
>>524554520Naah you got it wrong, swedes lean forward (and take it in their poopers)
>>524553564SWIFT is gonna die isn't it
>>524553858China already did this as well. Chinese dont use Mastercard/Visa or any other US payment processing form.Europeans have been dumb waiting around so long before taking Mastercard and Visas European market away.
>>524554624Based Schwab
>>524555081Dude, your Great Britain literally had shitskins in every part as Prime Minister. You even got plundered after WW2 by your own "ally" aka Jewish USA. Nothing is left, even tho on paper your people won. You are done.
>>524553564the eu has been pushing digital only since covid, what a farce to pretend its due to the usa/trump.
It's just a system to transfer money without paying fees to Visa and Mastercard or using stuff like cashapp. It's not for reseting the economy, they dont need a "digital currency" for that. Most of the third world already has this, I don't know why firsties love paying fees so much.
>>524554426>privacy and anonimity? Vve don't do zat in GERMANY>>524554567whoa there, you can't just be antisemetic like that. Jews will still get paid for having an ai manage your nonexistent money, your bank account was promised to them 3000 years ago.
>>524562525Because Visa allows you to pay anywhere at any time and not worry about exchange rates or hidden fees
>>524553564Based, fuck visacard
>>524555081>Yookay flag
>>524553564good. Fuck private companies taking a tithe for living. Government should do that as they are already taxing you.
>>524553564Digital euro is a voucher. It's not currency. Can be stopped at any time. Will be tied to your digital id and the scam carbon footprint. Will be tied to your social credit. You'll be a total and complete slave, in ways impossible to comprehend until it becomes reality. As vdl and the other criminal Cristine lagarde said, it also has an expiration date. You read that right. You'll be poor forever. This is literally agenda 2030 being placed in front of you and NPCs are all happy because it has no interest. Save this comment, you'll see in a few years
Sarr we must use Indian Rupee nowOur country very success
>>524562525because using a credit card is like using a VPN, your transaction is anonymous. You tell one bank to pay another bank and all the record there is is that a payment was made.With digital banking, you are browsing the internet with no proxies or vpns and the government is now your ISP. That means they see everything you do, all the time. Whether this is used to police behaviors, limit purchases, or force you to pay mandatory taxes, anything is possible but it wasnt possible before with the old system.For example in california, the state of california has lots of different forms of sales tax. The neighboring state of Oregon has 0 sales tax. So what a lot of californians do is go shopping in Oregon for many goods and services. TECHNICALLY by law you are suppose to manaully write up individual checks and PAY the california government sales tax for purchases made in oregon because the californian jews arbitrary made a law that demands you do so, but in practice nobody does because they cant prove you ever shopped in oregon. With a digital banking system, they could. They could force you to self report, they could force you to pay, or they could straight up prevent the purchase from happening.>why might they do thatusing california as an example, california banned the sales of certain internal combustion engine machines to 'help fight climate change'. This includes lawn mowers and hedge trimmers. So if you want to get a powerful gasoline powered trimmer, you have to go to oregon. Its just not for sale in california anymore. But oops, the digital bank of california has decided to ban your payment request because you are being a bad goy buying a 'banned' item. This kind of system has so much room for abuse, you'd have to be a smooth brained retard to want it.
>>524553564This is bullshit idea anon. In fact EU already has instant payments Read psd2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_DirectiveIts free (compared to visa/mc processing fees), its fast - settlement even for sepa payments takes seconds. But you dont need digital euro for psd2 you dont even need euroDigital euro is just another step towards globohomo tyranny.
>>524562911NPCs are happy because it's going to fuck over the big two creditcard companies
>>524553564MARK OF THE BEAST
Gotta have something to give the illegals since the money cants print fast enough.
>>524562911expiration date for fiatWtf?
>>524553564>EU pushes for sanctions against Russia and their disconnection from SWIFT>W-what if the USA disconnects us from SWIFT because orange man bad?
>>524553564>It didn’t go unnoticed in Frankfurt that Visa and Mastercard suspended operations in Russia in March 2022 after the invasion of UkraineDidn't the EU force them to stop operations?? They're acting like this was a unilateral decision by Visa and Mastercard
>>524553564Breaking from Visa/MasterCard is based... But who I am gonna lie? The ones in charge of the new payement system will be as bad if not worse
>>524553564russia and china had their own payment cards for over 15-20 years
unified qr code payment is more popular than visa and mastercard
>>524553564>Digital euro: what it is and how we will use the new form of cash"A limit would be set on the amount of digital euro that a person or company could hold in their digital euro wallet. This would help prevent excessive outflows of deposits from banks, preserving financial stability." - https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/digital_euro/how-it-works/html/index.en.htmlSo it's just virtual debit cards under another name.
>>524563860are you retardedswift is european
>>524553564>visa mastercard censor rightoids for years>all migger nigger rightoids can do is complain and create flimsy "alternatives" that still rely on visa/mc at the end of the line>leftoids get censored by visa/mc once>immediately they create a real monteray answer to the visa/mc censorship problembros, is it time to admit leftoids are the real players in this game and we're innefective and retarded?
>>524565384Sounds like capital controls.
A one world government/monetary system would make sense and would lessen the struggles of the current economic and nationalist woes. Change my mind
>>524555878>STOP COOPERATING>STOP FORMING A BLOC>STOOOOOP
>>524563609Yes because despite the name, cbdc is NOT currency. It's a voucher. It will be tied to your behavior and your scam carbon footprint. It will have an expiration date. In China that's already been partially realized with the 15 minutes neighborhoods and such. This is dystopia to an Orwellian level.Save this for the future.
>>524565726you dont have an impartial entity to gouvern it and make sure its fair.
>>524565455>swift is european"On 26 February 2012 the Danish newspaper Berlingske reported that US authorities have sufficient control over SWIFT to seize money being transferred between two European Union (EU) countries (Denmark and Germany), since they succeeded in seizing around $26,000 that was being transferred from a Danish businessman to a German bank. The transaction was automatically routed through the US, possibly because of the USD currency used in the transaction, which is how the United States was able to seize the funds. The money was a payment for a batch of Cuban cigars previously imported to Germany by a German supplier. As justification for the seizure, the U.S. Treasury stated that the Danish businessman had violated the United States embargo against Cuba." - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SWIFT&oldid=1084936710#U.S._control_over_transactions_within_the_EU
>>524566133>schizorope
>>524566133>This is dystopia to an Orwellian level.witch country in this day and age is an dystopia ?Afghanistan?
>>524563382IT IS THE SAME PEOPLE. Money goes from a company to another one. It doesn't change one bit.People will be baited into this giant scam with the no interest bullshit, and the chains will be even tighter. Bad comment online? Money will be directly taken from your account. The future is an only digital currency, the complete enslavement man.
>>524565726You need many crabs fighting for the top to have the crabs at the bottom left alone. Big crab on top will just eat the ones underneath
>>524566235is not* a dystopia.
>>524556107>our political class is beyond fucked and none of them would ever be capable of doing anything good.so get a new one
>>524553564Say what you want, but Macaroni and Merz, the M&M, are doing fantastic work on certain issues. This is one of them.>>524554470They won't up the fees because they precisely want to avoid them, but most importantly it is about having a European system in place that Europeans can use if disconnected from all others, so even if it had fees, I'd rather pay fees to the EU than to MC.
>>524553564Germany? trying to have it's own bank? those evil hitler loving nazi's tried to do the same thing.
>>524566619and it was the primary reason for WW2
>>524566270As if that isn't happening right now
>>524553564The credit card jews charging 3% is disgusting. I support anything that hurts America and jews, but I repeat myself.
>>524566185swift, visa, mastercard... all american. if we dont want to be slaves to america, we have to do something.
>>524566226I don't get it. Rope?
>>524554049>I'm not a big fan of the EU.No one should beEveryone should hate itI don't understand how they don'tHow the fuck are these NPCs so complacent
>>524567779the alternative is warmongering or russia influence.
>>524554049The cost to run a transaction isn's even 1/1000 of a cent. They could put a single add in the app and that would pay for all your life long transactions.The only reason why visa or mastercard charge that much, is because mutts are cocksuckers and they have a monopoly.
>>524558246You are paying higher cost for tge product, which includes that 1%. Even if you use cash, you have to pay it for those who use cards.
>>524554426So it won't change anything?
>>524554758It doesn't say you can't keep using Visa and Mastercard.
>tech is 100% EuropeanDoubt this part.
>>524568428why
>>524568461>>524568428There is literally 0 chance the tech is 100% European. It probably runs on a bunch of silicon Valley devops techstack in the Google or whatever American globohomo cloud.
>>524554310No need to have fees, when you just can steal the whole thing. Only works if there is no alternatives (outlaw cash) and you have completely silenced and control people (Digital ID).
>>524553564JEWS IN SHAMBLES
>>524565604>leftoids get censored by visa/mc once>immediately they create a real monteray answer to the visa/mc censorship problemplebbitor faggots get the rope for their lies
>>524567948>EU or warmongeringthese are the same thing
>>524568880even chinese base their tech off of that,so i dont see your point.You want to make new tech from scratch?
>>524553564>the US is threatening to invade an EU country's (Denmark) territorystopped reading here
>>524553564The premise is good but the implementation is retarded, apple/google are just as jew/US as visa/mastercard, but at least no fees.
>>524569065how is eu warmongering?
>>524569317>how is eu warmongering?well, for one, globohomo coup'd ukraine when the EU got told their energy deal for hohols was so shitty that the russian deal was way tf betterthe EUists said forever that there would never be an EU armybut look at what they clamor for now
>>524563012>because using a credit card is like using a VPN, your transaction is anonymousLMFAO you have no idea what you are talking about merchants have been passing level 2 data (exactly what you are buying) to credit card companies for ages who then use it for their own purposes and likely sell it to data brokers. This is why I only pay cash for shit like liquor because here in these dystopian states of America it keeps your health "insurance" and car insurance companies from knowing how much liquor you buy. America functionally has social credit and all the other shit China does it's just done by "private" entities instead of the government so the stupid ass sheep think it's ok.
>>524569453>EU got told their energy deal for hohols was so shitty that the russian deal was way tf betterYes, Russia would clearly have paid more to import energy from Ukraine than Europe would have. Flawless logic. Russia is known to import alot of energy.Just kill yourself, you are worthless and so are your fantasized words.
>>524569453"couped"there was reelection and the other nigger won,and he basically did not do a good job either.this is just an excuse.
>>524569648you're a fagYankuyovich primarily rejected the EU offer because it necessitated skyrocketing energy prices for hohols, all in exchange for having their natural resources extracted and put to market.just kill yourself, you are a worthless globohomo shill that's too stupid to figure out why globohomo is going batshit trying to convince retards like you that Russia is le ebil
>>524569453if you dont want an eu army russia should not attack an eu neighboring country.
>>524569739>th-the maidan never even happened!jewish globohomo historical rewrite rejected
>>524569763>you're a fagI accept your concession, niggerfaggot retard.
>>524569791>an eu neighboring country.Ukraine is not an EU neighboring country, fagyou act like you didnt notice when the emblem of Khazaria got put on the hohol flag once globhomo's coup was complete
>>524553564>EU to introduce European replacement toVisa/Mastercard & Apple/Google Pay with zero feesbased
>>524569867and this nigger definitely doesnt remember Ukraine's gold disappearing after the coup either
>>524558076>digital cashanother smoothbrain-tank neologism like >suicide drones
>>524569867>I'll make sure to not respond to the substantive part because I dont even have bullshit to counter that with
>>524569929Shut the fuck up you clueless nigger>Ukraine wanted to sell Gas to Russia!You are so fucking retarded you are not worth any more responses. Kill yourself.
>>524569876>Ukraine is not an EU neighboring country, fagnother geographically illiterate zigger on a US VPN exit notehttps://www.google.com/search?q=russian+mass+immigration+eu+hybrid+warfarehttps://www.google.com/search?q=russian+mass+immigration+eu+hybrid+warfare
>>524569984>substantive part>Russia importing Energy>substantiveshut the fuck up mongrel
>>524569989>RUSSIA BAD>IF YOU SAY ANYTHING BUT RUSSIA BAD YOU'RE A CLUELESS NIGGERlmao its hilarious when plebbit bots start malfunctioning
>>524569763why all oligarchs and politicians in russia sent their kids to study in europe?why a lot of them jumped ship when the war started?
>>524569453lol, trump and putin and xi all thre hating on the EU was such a big mask off event. if all of europes enemies hate the EU it must have something good.
>>524570019lmao now russia didnt even have an energy offer during the 2013 talkspepperidge farms remembersglobohomo bots carrying water for jews arent programmed to deal with things like this
>>524553564So Europe is going the antisemitism route? War it is.
>>524570040>Russia importing energy>substantive>Russia importing energy means Russia badyou are really a hypermoron.
>>524570045lel now its time to start with logical fallacies since straight lies are failing
>>524569988i did not say ukraine is part of these,i said it is a neihbouring country.russia had a treaty of non agression.they should have abided by it.Now they pay the price.
>>524569876we are in eu and they are our neighbour
>>524570106this dumb faggot doesnt even realize that the reason the EU was created was to subvert its members sovereignty and be forced to do globohomo's bidding>its just a monetary union!>now import shitskins and we'll sue you if you refuse, lmao>give le monies so globohomos can steal it>mask the fuck up, its THE EU LAW>remember that EU army we said would never, ever happen?>well yeah we're gonna need one of those, mkaypure fucking pottery
>>524570136how i made a logical fallacy?also you changed the goalpost 2 times already.you act very kikeish
>>524570131>invent memesalad with obviously dumb conclusion>project that this is what the other really said/meantGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>524570106A united europe would be as rich as the U.S. and much richer than china. Russia is just assmad europe is uniting and nobody considers them a part of it.
>>524570262>this dumb faggot doesnt even realize that the reason the EU was created was to subvert its members sovereignty and be forced to do globohomo's biddingrussia literally started a war to subvert ukraine souvreignty and steal the most resource rich land they have.
>>524570040well russia wants to nuke, starve and freeze us to death. in their state tv they fantasize about killing us every other day. thats not exactly nice, dont you think?
>>524570346>>invent memesalad>s-s-stop actually reading my posts!ok!
>>524553564Based. I love being European.
>>524570262>>now import shitskins and we'll sue you if you refuse, lmaorussia import unlimited jeets and already have unlimited churkas .again,you seem to be only focused on eu mistakes,not onhow russia works,so you are not presenting an alternative,just cheap agitprop.
>>524570165>they should have abided by it and just let the other side not abide the shit they agreed tobut we already knew you fags wanted a one way street here while referring to it as a two way street>Now they pay the price.LOLLMAO EVENI love this dumbshit meme that le Russia is now paying le price!hahahahahahahaonly plebbitors, trannies, and retards believe this
>>524570301>pure projection>acts like he's not projectinggo the fuck back to plebbit
>>524555201> It’s a scam to not pay 30% of your paycheck to a kike middlemen so you can die in the lobby of a waiting room surrounded by Mexicans and Indians
>>524570040>ANYTHING BUT RUSSIA BADThere actually is some interesting good things about Russia. See, unlike you subhumans, we actually learn to differentiate, its the reason we are rich and you live in a shithole. But you just dont understand this, you have around 80 IQ and are basically an animal. Would you like to know good things about Russia, my dear? Come on. Say please, and I will tell you what I think is good in Russia. Interested, troglodyte?
>>524570361>globohomo/nato/EU literally started a war to subvert ukraine souvreignty and steal the most resource rich land they have.ftfypicrel dumb nigger
>>524570445>but we already knew you fags wanted a one way street here while referring to it as a two way streetagain,present an alternative better than eu/usa and people would flock to join your sphere of influence.the only way russia draw nations is by sword .
>>524570439>but you dont want to accept my attempts to sidetrack the point>fuckin jeets in russia, amirite!?
>>524554231It's all dogshit.Something like card transactions should be handled by the government or perfidious central banks for a nominal fee to cover the expenses.I try to frequent any place that gives discounts for using cash purely to spite the parasite card companies.
>>524570485you are projecting not me.you are simply ignoring what i say and do the :NO YOU" meme.again,please enlightn us,what russia have better to offer?
>>524557834Ce fetze de tristeni acolo . Cum sa fii asa ratat incat sa n-ai alta treaba decat sa stai pe frigul asta in piata ?Care e faza cu steagurile ? Ce vor sa spuna ?
>>524570516wow this bot is malfunctioning so bad its trying to get right down to story time
>>524570581Russia is a poorer version of globohomo
>>524570556>cmon it would have been all over the news if it really was globohomo/nato that coup'd ukraineLMAO
>>524570539you want to say that russia did not control the south east of ukraine already and have their oligarchs rooten in there?
>>524554723This
>>524570594>again,please enlightn us,what russia have better to offer?your posts read like Bari Weiss might as well have written them
>>524570599muh trump muh putin,vrem un tatic !
>>524570599Curva aia e acolo la toate protestele cu aceleasi steaguri. Daca ii iei la puricat cel putin jumatate dintre ei sunt platiti de rusi sau de diversi afaceristi din Gagauzia sau Transnistria(evrei)
>>524570624>No, I dont wanna hear anything positive about RussiaKek, you never cease to amaze me, really. Your function is literally to shit up a discussional space. Fucking animal.
>>524570673why dont you present a better alternative?why are ukrainians themselvees fighting you right now?if they want they can surrender any moment.
The madness of Trump, Starmer, Macron, Merkel, Ursula von der Leyen etc will be a distant memory soon thank God
>>524570746pana si botul rus caruia ii mai scuip 5 ruble din replyuri are soft jidanic.you just know.
>>524570684Crimea's fucking Russian, deal with itDonetsk and Luhansk voted twice to say fuck you to the globohomo niggers in Kiev, cope with that factdilate at the realization that after 8 years of Kiev bombing them, they then voted to have mother Russia protect them
>>524557834the real retards of Romania.The current Romanian government and president are illegitimate.
>>5245707872 more weeks, praise Putin! And Nigel Farage, the faggot who declined to take part in the Brexit process after campaigning for it for his entire life.
>>524570775>why are ukrainians themselvees fighting you right now?yeah that's why the hohol jews are vanning motherfuckers and dragging them to the front>if they want they can surrender any moment.surely the hohol jews will listen to the slav hohols and stop this madnesssurely the hohol jews did not already declare that hoholville will be a multicultural place like itsrealyou've already forgotten they sent the whitest hohols to the front first while they locked down the borders and let the jews leave while demanding anyone else sign up for woar
>>524570833i die of laughter,please zigger,post moar.yes a bunch of imported russians voted russia.same in moldova,you dispatched a lot of moldoveans and made them learn russian and now you claim they are part of you.cope more zigger,novichok grade stuff is addicting i see,you are in a delirium
>>524569272A wise man doesn't build his castle on sand. Especially jewish american engineered synthetic sand. All American tech is backdoored.
>>524570982>IF A VOTE DOESNT GO THE RIGHT WAY THEN ITS FRAUD
>>524570969russia is already multiculturalWHATIS THEDIFFERENCE?
>>524553564India has already developed it, it's called UPI Unified Payments Interface. It has been working flawlessly since 10 years. Most payments are now on UPI, no fees. I wish one day the Indian govt. will get competent and unZogged enough to add Bitcoin and Bitcoin Lightning to UPI.
>>524570746Prostestele in romanika sunt sponsorizate din 2000s . Cativa agitatori si o mare de prosti. Si tot acolo ajungem oricum. Cainii latra, caruta trece
>>524571066yourlogicalfallacyis.comthe difference is that you dont appear to be able to understand when you're using a logical fallacy
>>524571063but you said EU rigged the election.deal with it.So you can rig it but we cant?i dont get it.
>>524554426>all your transactions can finally be linked to your online IDoh no. the government that operates transparently according laws will have access to your ID and transaction history, instead of a globalist cartel whose entire reason for existence is to make you a slave and destroy your blood line. how will we ever recover?
>>524571133i asked you to explain how and you ignored ittell me what logical fallacy i made.to me it seems like what are you doing is not even sophism,but straight out cope and seethe lies.
>>524570839curul 2 anapoy
>>524571217These are bots and Indians whos job/order is to shit up discussional space while using VPNs and posing as citizens of other nations. They are forbidden to talk about topics such as the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, the Russian consitution, or Putins death. You can easily identify them by asking questions only actual EU citizens can properly answer or using a regional dialect when typing Romanian (They cannot translate that well).
>>524554049The point of this "digital Euro" isn't to bait and switch you into paying more fees. The EU couldn't care less. It can already tax you by printing money. Inflation is a much bigger tax than 3%.The point is to replace cash money (anonymous money) with a much more traceable currency, so the elites can:- know everything you're buying/selling/earning- hold you by the balls and block you off the system if you're being a bad goyIn a world without cash, you can't survive without a bank account. And the government can close/suspend your bank account whenever it wants.
>>524571146>its ok if we rig an election and point at the other side and say well they rigged it so that means us rigging it is fine
>>524571217explain how what you 47pbtid mother fuckerthis thread is full of you globohomo shills
>>524571620yes,thats what you did in the first place.you started to accuse other people of rigging election,mr 99% voted for putin/lukashenko.>>524571505i hope my replies cover at lest a pack of smokes.
>>524571725>no, crimea, donestk, luhansk, these were all just simply illegitimate elections>if they went the other way they would have been fine tho
>>524571725>i hope my replies cover at lest a pack of smokes.Based Humanitarian.
>>524570666what else is therestrip away western lifestyle what else remains ? and by that you have to strip away anything outside of "the west" that was influenced by "the west" what remains ?also: hallo satan
>>524554758I carry cash and operate as an independent bank/atm for my friends, I make 20% every month on 25 bucks and they want to pay me even more.
>>524553564Almost like a.... digital central banking currency scheme or something being set up
>>524571725>>524571857Who tf cares about elections?Every single election in every single country is rigged. It's just a matter of who can rig better.The point of elections isn't to allow the people to choose, but to legitimate "leaders" (puppets) that have already been chosen by the elites.You must be incredibly retarded if you think any of this shit is real.
>>524569973>neologismIt's not entirely clear what you're trying to say.
>>524572518>they're all rigged so we must rig too>its ok now, rigging is acceptablekys rigger
>>524570969The thread was about the new payment system but you seem to get really agitated by Russia...
>technology will be 100% European only >leaving zero vulnerabilitycitation needed
>>524572780>The thread was about the new payment system to bait and switch europeans with and make them think its not even moar globohomo fuck the plebes than the existing framework, but you seem to challenge when I make up lies about Russia and act as if they're trueyeah I knew all that part
I live in Frankfurt. Traditional close ties to US. Army Banks and Chicago Electronic MusicCongratulations!You are now our enemies.You crossed the line too many times. Lately u denied visas to german citizens because they dont want to lick orange mans scrotum?You fucking disgusting retards.Microsoft and Google are next.We dont want your fucking Techtatorship....., the link between major US tech companies and the Trump administration has proven to be an additional motivating factor in ditching Microsoft for good.https://adigitalboom.com/news/germany-begins-government-wide-exit-from-microsoft-software/https://www.uniladtech.com/news/tech-news/microsoft-officially-uninstalled-politician-germany-963948-20250616
>>524572545neologism means 'new word'
>>524553564There are huge jews that 0% instead of 3% will have mass adoption in lightspeed.
>>524572613Everyone rigs. Rigging is acceptable because elections/democracy aren't real.Your own elections are rigged by your Jewish elites. Trump is a Jewish puppet. Harris is a Jewish puppet. The whole shit was rigged from candidates, to media, to ballot count.
>>524569973It's not a neologism, it's newspeak
>>524573273>trump's just a part of the systemthanks but we already knew you were a clueless plebbitor
>>524573182We don't really have a choice. It WILL be mass-adopted just like digital ID was suddenly mass adopted all around the world.First it will be optional, then it will be mandatory for certain things, then it will be mandatory for everything.It's the foot-in-the-door technique, and it works extremely well with mouthbreathers (95% of the population).
This is a great move. Fuck Visa and Mastercard for listening to crazy Aussie feminists.
>>524572956Are you mentally disabled?I have never said anything about Russia and do not care who is "in the right" in Ukraine.How is a payment system for a continent/a subset of it in a economic union more globohomo than: paying fees to us companys, us legislation being able to meddle in transactions between eu countries because those go for some reason threw jew york, the us spying on intereuoean transactions?
>>524573510Thinking elections are real is the plebbit opinion. Trump is a Jewish puppet. He's not even hiding it. He literally sucks Jewish cocks every single day on live TV. His daughter married a Jew. He's received Netanyahu 5 times in 10 months.This guy is literally the most Israel-first president in history and retards like you still think this shit is real.
>>524573016Hmm.
>>524573809>but what's wrong with the EU taking this all over>its not like they've fucked over their citizens on a bunch of shit already that they said they'd never do
>>524574154>B-B-B-BUT DRUMPFgo the fuck back to plebbit you faggot ass tranny>NO ITS EASIER TO THINK HE'S ON THE SAME TEAM AS GLOBOHOMOyeah that's why globohomo has shot itself in both feet, thighs, and nuts trying to go against anything Trump wants to do
>>524574203>>but what's wrong with the EU taking this all over>>524574203>>its not like they've fucked over their citizens on a bunch of shit already that they said they'd never doBut enough about US-American and Israeli bankers.
>>524554049Don't sorry the EU had 150 B to help AfricaYour masters just don't know how to use their money
>>524553564If this happens im moving to sweden. They probably not going along with this, i hope
>>524576500Wut. Retard tier thinking.
>>524576667Why, sir?
>>524555835But why did Russia invade in the first place?
>>524577237SAAR?!Digital Euro is an improvement on what we have now with over 9000 stupid fintech startups like revolut trying to plug this broken currency transaction system.
>>524577334Because the tsar ordered them to.How stupid are you zigniggers?
>>524577354But digital means no cash, and no cash means distopian hell
Europeans hate the EU, given the choice between this and something else they will choose another payment system using decentralized crypto as is currently being developed
>>524577465Don't worry, people will pay in dirhams just like the Turks do with their currency, given the number of Africans in Europe it's very unlikely that undeclared work will disappear, especially in tax hells like Germany or France.
>>524577465It doesn't mean no cash and the Germans will never allow no cash.
>>524571534this
