https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-ukraine-tried-attack-putins-residence-so-moscows-negotiating-stance-2025-12-29/Lavrov just now:The drone attack on Putins state residence took place "virtually immediately after" talks between the United States and Ukraine in Mar-a-Lago. Kyiv used long-range drones to carry out the attack. All drones were shot down.Trump was informed during phone-conversation with Putin about this attack and he was shocked by Ukrainian barbarism, according to Kremlin.Thats why Russia considers draft of the peace deal as no longer valid and demands its revisions. xD
Lavrov just announced retaliatory strikes against targets in Ukrainehttps://x.com/M_Simonyan/status/2005668567069651191
That’s nice but I’ll wait for Lookner to confirm
>>524572759>more theater and dead white peopleThis theatre is getting really boring
Zelensky denies the attackhttps://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/2005667779894993080
>All drones were shot down.This is how I know it’s fake. The day Russia intercepts everything and becomes a competent military will be the day the sun explodes
>>524572399I don't believe that Ukies attacked Putin's residence due peace talks.More probable for me is Putin got a green light from Trump to bomb Zelensky.
>>524573028This is a kind of bullshit kiev reports daily. >Russia launched 300 drones>294 were shut down. In the mean time half of hohol's cities have no power. Kiev spews this bullshit literally DAILY.
>>524572399At what point do we write Russia off from peace? China will only fund them for so long.
>>524573170Right now Russia mass manufactures all top equipment that is required to win this war - all drones and all missiles. China is not needed, Russia has the top drone and missile equipment of this war.
>>524573012no wayy, he denies the attack? who would've thought that a jew would lie
>>524573012>Russians have attacked QueefSays the kike that attacked the Kremlin directly.
>>524573053A couple of days ago brits killed a russian military general in Moscow. After that, they lost several command centers, and 4 oil tankers .
>>524573170lol this dipshit doesnt realize Russia began buying gold hand over fist since watching 2008
>>524572399We should stop being involved.
>>524573394...and nothing happened.They didn't even raise Iranian flag of revenge.
>>524572921This. It was the only goal from the start.
>>524572399I can't wait for ukraine to get it's shit pushed in tonight
>>524573012Kek they are at war you dumb faggots Russia doesn't need a casus belli to attack kiev. It's amazing it still exists.
>>524573028Russia has working air defense, anon, that it produces domestically.
>>524573805Throughout the war, Russia largely avoided direct strikes on core Ukrainian governmental buildings like the presidents office, parliament, or Cabinet of Ministers in Kyivs government quarter, despite capability to do so. Targeting such "decision-making centers" deliberately would signal major escalation.
>Russia saysHow to recognize fake news.
>>524574073>if the globalist banking jews disagree, its fakekys
>>524574073This. I wait for what trusty CNN has to say
>>524574073>>Russia says>How to recognize fake news.they also claimed they shot down all the drones which should tell you all you need to know
>>524573012He used chatgpdt to write that while he was snorting coke
>>524574025Oh I fully understand. I just hate the way everything is performativly telegraphed. If they actually attacked you don't say anything and when the sun goes down fucking level them. When the sun comes up you can explain why to anyone that has questions with proof. This entire war is gay rhetoric about how fucked everyone is about to be and then nothing ever happens
>>524574301both sides do this for some reason - they probably got most of them though since it is likely one of the most secure airspaces in the world
>>524573961Crazy how it works to protect Putin but has never worked in any of the hundreds of other drone attacks on various Russian sites.Weird that is.
>>524573961>pantsir>barely shoots down commercial jet that was able to land in Kazakstan with minimal casualtieswhat a joke. you should be embarrassed.
>>524574073>trusts globohomo jew media I bet you think Ukraine is winning and men can be women too
>>524572399>Zelensky and Trump agree that a referendum is the way forward>to have the referendum you need a ceasefire to go through with it>Putin announces magic dragon devices tried to hit his residence, so now it's all offlmao you can't make this shit up, I mean you can if you're an ex commie like Gollum sure
>>524572759>>524573012It's obvious Russia doesn't want a referendum nor a ceasefire to make the referendum happen, so they do a commie psyop. They also want to keep going because if the people of Ukraine vote to give Donbabwe away, then they can no longer larp about the illegitimacy of the government, elections, will of the people, worrying about the Ukrainians and so on. The bottom line is that whatever Russia says is a always a lie and if it is not a lie now, time will prove it to be a lie. They want the war to keep rolling or an unconditional surrender on their terms. Anything inbetween is going to get sabotaged to put everyone in a bad spot, whether it is Trump and his voters, the EU and their people, the Ukrainians and their government etc.
>>524574929Or fake serbia, zelensky is a jew, and was installed by other jews, and negotiating with them when they still have goyim to kill is pointless
>>524572399a second drone has hit the tower!!!!
>>524573012>NOOOOOOOOOOOO*Deep demonic voice*>I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET FUNDING AND US SUPPORT>I WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN IT AAAAALL
>>524573961Thank god millions of russians are working to keep Putin safe, even willing to go onto the battlefield without any sort of protection from drones just so Putin can ensure the residence he's not even in can be safe from drones.Every time a half-mutilated Russian puts a gun's barrel to the roof of his mouth, he thinks, "thank god it was me, and not Putin."
i don't care
>>524574491>why doesn’t every refinery in the largest country on earth have adequate anti air coverage???are you serious?
>>524575179What is even an argument you are trying to make?
>>524575020Yeah, sure thing Canadhalit. They sabotaged the ceasefire they need a thousand times more than Russia does, who has complete battlefield incentive across every front except for Kupyansk where the geography and the river help the defense.
>>524572399What's even the point of attacking some residence instead of some oil infra/military airport/critical infra? Like, just to what, interrupt peace talks? Zisters, is pinya afraid of drumpf so he has to fake an attack in order to "Downald I'm a good goy you see it's evil hohlerinos who don't want peace"? Come on, dumb niggers, it's an obvious false flag. Sad though, I hoped this war would be over. You can take Crimea and Dumbass forever, don't care, let's just stop killing people.
>>524575857You were jumping in Maidan for this
>>524575988>in MaidanOk Ivan Canadovich, +15rub
>>524572399>Lavrov just now:>The drone attack on Putins state residence took place "virtually immediately after" talks between the United States and Ukraine in Mar-a-Lago. Kyiv used long-range drones to carry out the attack. All drones were shot down.>Trump was informed during phone-conversation with Putin about this attack and he was shocked by Ukrainian barbarism, according to Kremlin.>Thats why Russia considers draft of the peace deal as no longer valid and demands its revisions. xD
>>524575179You're a fucking embarrassment. You must be a gov employee. Or probably a battalion commander, kek
>>524575857>kvetching increases
>>524573012>This nigga believes in "lasting peace" with RussialolThe peace starts at Poland's unconditional surrender. And only for a couple of years at most while another neighbor is being prepared to be looted
>according to Kremlin.
>>524575988>>524576249I don’t like Ukrainians but you faggots are all such fucking dumb cattle one can’t stand it.
>>524575857Anyone with a functioning brain knows its a false flag. Putin simply doesn't want to allow a ceasefire, which would stop his conquest and the referendum too, which would legitimize Ukrainian decision-making. At the same time, he is giving Trump another window to press Ukraine into accepting unfavorable conditions. It's peak commie ops.
>>524573961might as well put a lada on a medieval catapult and fling that in the air
>>524573342Got proof? Russia is lobbing rockets at civilians regularly and suddenly putin can make anything up and cancel a deal.
>>524576791Now I'm a retard who doesn't know anything... But this clearly has to be probable right? Like surely there is not an inch of hohol territory not covered by American satellite surveillance
>>524576250Sad but true all Russians need to be eliminated before peace can happen.
>>524573961sometimes working*
>>524576161I'm actually taras from Ontario oblast, and if I could get paid for shilling on here, I would. My script wouldn't have to change. Ukranny is infested with retards like you who don't have enough foresight to predict the outcome of their actions. An entire nation (although it isn't really) of corrupt retards blinded by their hate for Russia. You played the pipe, so now you have to pay the Pied Piper
>>524576964>Got proof?How new are you?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kremlin_drone_attack
Consult the chart
>>524577313lmao>On 3 May 2023, amidst the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian war, two explosive drones allegedly targeted the Kremlin in Moscow and were shot down. President Vladimir Putin was not present in the building at the time and no one was injured in the incident.[2][3][4]>The Kremlin accused Ukraine of perpetrating the incident and called it an "act of terrorism" and an assassination attempt.[2] Ukrainian officials denied involvement>An unverified video posted on social media showed an object flying towards the Kremlin before a small explosion occurred near a flagpole on top of the Kremlin Senate dome. In the footage, two unidentified people were seen climbing the dome.[6] Another video showed smoke rising near the building.[2]>Russian officials claimed that the two drones were disabled with electronic radar assets.[2]>Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner military group, cautioned against the use of nuclear weapons, saying that "We look like clowns threatening to use nuclear weapons in response to a child's drone."[10]>Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov claimed that the United States was behind an alleged drone attack on the Kremlin aiming to kill Putin, saying that "We know very well that decisions about such actions, about such terrorist attacks, are made not in Kyiv but in Washington."[11] Leading Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov compared the incident to the September 11 attacks.[12]
>>524576791>doesn't want to allow a ceasefiresince u retards talking about this war as a war from 2014, I telling you that such seafire negotiations happened several times during ukraine failed offensiveall times ukraine used them to rearm and regroupall under EU patronage and guaranteesso it quite justifiedfuck youthis is game now
>>524577095Ukraine wins nothing and loses everything from an attack such as this. The battlefield incentive is on Russia's side and they get to endlessly say that the Ukrainian government isn't legitimate because without a ceasefire the people can't vote on the fate of the territories.
>>524577197Wonder what happened there.>how dare you hate your invaders!
>>524575857>let's just stop killing people.too late for that.we live in a world of horrors we die in a world of horrors
>>524572399>Thats why Russia considers draft of the peace deal as no longer valid and demands its revisions. xDHow very convenient for russia. Surely they're telling the truth, right?
>>524577597Yeah, it was one of the highlights of this shitshow.So, now you know that the latest Novgorod attack is 146% done by Zelensky.
>>524576216>>524575359I hope by the end of the year I have enough good boy points that the Russian government will send me cheetos instead of drafting me. wish me luck
>>524577313This is from 2023 you fucking bad faith retard
>>524577602Hello anon, you do realize Russia has no business being in Ukraine, right? This is the rusoid problem, the dream of the Russian Lebensraum, with ever-shifting excuses; biolabs, NATO, muh odesoids, illegitimate government and so on, while Russia is doing precisely what it is accusing others of. Russia is being driven into a catastrophe that it will never recover from demographically, so if they want to keep going, let them keep going. At the cost of ammo and paper money they're bleeding manpower 24/7.
>>524577856you mean some silly drone fireworks show with 0 casualties that your main media jew called your 9/11 is your proof?you know 9/11 was a false flag attack and US officials also threw in several dumb claims like in this case>that the two drones were disabled with electronic radar assets causing small explosion
>>524577897>This is from 2023 you fucking bad faith retardI wasn't implying recency, you imbecile.It's just funny reading Zelensky kvetching about>muh government buildings fo Queefdespite striking Putin's residences TWICE.
>>524572399It would have been the UK that did it. That's their MO. There's glowniggers all in the Ukrainian Army.
>>524577916You know the biolabs were run by the US Dept of War, right faggot?You cant see why Russia would have a problem with that after the COVID biolab leak?
>>524572399two weeks
>>524578244>despite striking Putin's residences TWICE.Funny how we have seen no evidence of this whatsoever. Russians lie like they breathe, you should know. Besides, Putin doesn't have any fancy residences, only his humble work apartment. That's the official russian government's statement, Putin's palaces don't exist. So how could you drone something that doesn't exist?
>>524574929>They also want to keep going because if the people of Ukraine vote to give Donbabwe away, then they can no longer larp about the illegitimacy of the government, elections, will of the people, worrying about the Ukrainians and so onYour position is... That Zelenski should stay in power over the Ukrainians against their will? And you believe that Russia faked a Ukrainian attack against themselves... In order to sabotage the peace agreement that they themselves want?
>>524577880Russia's forces in the SMO are volunteer only. Ukraine is the country drafting people to the frontlines. The draft in Russia can't be deployed in combat without a declaration of war.
>>524578137>you mean some silly drone fireworks show with 0 casualties that your main media jew called your 9/11 is your proof?NAFO trannies have an unhealthy obsession with Solovyov. Why the fuck is that clown even cited on wikipedia in the first place?But yes, it was a peremoga fireworks show essentially.
>>524577897>How dare you say Ukraine would launch drones into Moscow>No, that doesn't count because it was 2 years ago in the same conflict
>>524572399This is what they tried to blow up. Imagine sending millions of pidor peasants to die while you live it up in this ridiculous palace.
>>524577916>Russia has no business being in UkraineSure EU and NATO haveAnd also BlackRock. State Street etc.But its ok right?You see for 20 years since collapse of Soviets everything was fine there under "russian occupation". Quiet witl local political swamp which was russias problem.And you see now... less in a month of a "democratic reforms" at 2014.\>rusoid problem, the dream of the Russian Lebensraum,oi blyat you are the one lebensrauming to russia for 100 years>excuses; biolabs, NATO, muh odesoids, illegitimate government They lied? NoYou deny odessits right to choose? Also as ex-LDNR rights?> Russia is being driven into a catastrophe that it will never recover from demographicallyThis catastrophe is older than you country, and mine too.Google it.>they want to keep going, let them keep goingThey dont want. They must to do it.or"balkanization of russia".>bleeding manpower 24/7.for over 100 years, sorry for typos of bad english,
>>524572399RUSSIA SHOULD FALL MOSCOW DESERVES THIS I HAVE TURNED MY BACK ON RUSSIA FOR THE BEAR IS MY OPEN ENEMY! YOU THINK I’M ON YOUR SIDE RUSSIA WHEN I HATE HATE HATE VIOLENT PEOPLE AND I KNOW YOU STARTED IT YOU ALWAYS START IT!NAY I KNOW HOW YOU THINK YOU WILL SAY OH BUT I’M INNOCENT SEE INNOCENCE IS SOMETHING YOU CAN’T HIDE FROM ME I SEE IT THROUGH YOUR EYES!YOU LIED PUTIN AND NOT TO ANYONE BUT ME AND MY LOGIC IS WHOEVER STARTS IT AND HAS HISTORY OF VIOLENCE SHOULD PAY BY A MASSIVE ROCK OF BURNING CLAY AND I DON’T MAKE MISTAKES I NEVER DO!NAY YOU ARE IN WAR WITH ME AND THIS IS PERSONAL!I WARN YOU! I DON’T PLAY LIKE THESE COWARDS....
>>524577707>Ukraine wins nothing and loses everything from an attack such as this.That has been true of every offensive action Ukraine has taken in this war. Ukraine is controlled by people who are hostile to Ukraine's population.>without a ceasefire the people can't vote on the fate of the territories.Ceasefire is not a prerequisite for holding elections. Zelenski ending the martial law and allowing elections is what would allow elections.
>>524572399>nooo you cant bomb my own shit!!>thats barbaric noooo!!nigger you literally started this war
>>524578396>NO! Ukraine would never attempt to assassinate a Russian inside Russia! Stop claiming that without proof! It MUST be fake!You sure you wanna get red in the face taking this stance?
>>524578669No, you dumb ignorant fuck, the place that was hit is 1500 km from Crimea, 200 km away from St. Peterburg.
>>524578875How many palaces does Putin need?
>>524577707That has nothing to do with what I said... Clearly America should be able to tell who is not truthful
>>524573012This is all hohols lies. Everyone knows that Russia is the most honest country on the planet. I trust Putin before I trust my own family. He would never tell a lie!
This is, of course, all lies so Russians get to keep the ball in their court. Putin does not want peace, we've seen this dozen of times already. It all comes from very suspectible and predictable playbook of propaganda and Russian victimizing themself they are masters at.Lies lies and lies.
>>524577916>Russia has no business being in [The Location Where Russian Civilization Was Founded]Is your position that the CIA installed Jew who suspended elections has more of a right to be there than the ethnic people whose homeland it is?
>Russia saysThat means it's definitely true. :^)
>>524577707>Ukraine wins nothing and loses everything from an attack such as this.Why do you think that Zelensky has the Ukraine's interests in his mind and his own?If it was the former he would've went with Minsk II.
>>524578993>russian civilizationYou faggots are hilarious.
>>524578957You're using ridicule because you lack the confidence to state your position plainly. You trust the unsupported word of a CIA installed Jew against any and all other evidence.
>>524578993where was nigger civilization founded?
>>524579117How's your country's space program going? Ah well, maybe you'll get back on your feet and restore your historical empire. You do have one of those, right? Gimme a sec to look up Slovenia, I don't know anything about it. I've never needed to. Maybe someday there'll be a thread about Slovenia and I'll have occassion to learn about your culture. Hasn't happened yet tho lmao.
>>524578875kek, shut the fuck up peasant. Nobody cares about your shithole's corruption lore
>>524578870So, can we see this evidence? And you didn't explain why your emperor Monke doesn't officially have any palaces, so how could they be attacked? You russians truly suck at lying even though it's the only thing you do.
>>524578607>NAFO trannies have an unhealthy obsession with Solovyov. Why the fuck is that clown even cited on wikipedia in the first place?because he's the most popular media person working for russian government?peskov blamed burgers for the attack but you are right treating anything you russian retards say seriously is stupidity
>>524579300>So, can we see this evidence?There isn't any yet. But your position isn't skepticism. Your position is that we should trust the Jew and not believe that Ukraine would attack a target inside of Russia. That's obviously a silly thing to believe, and if you get emotionally invested in this fantasy you'll end up like those "Charlie Kirk was killed by a microdrone" posters. For all your talk of lies, you're ultimately taking the public stance that you want a CIA installed Jew to rule Ukraine against the will of the Ukrainians.
>>524579245Here's how you do a 2 week SMO though.
>>524572399Imagine my shock and surprise
>>524572399and no you can’t see drone debris or radar data, these drones were definitely real and heterosexual. we shot them all down btw, there’s nothing left.if you don’t believe this statement of fact from the ex soviet communist ministry for absolute, undeniable, irrefutable and unquestionable truth, you’re a gay jewish nazi nafo antifa troon. we win you lose!//jscript error: cannot find file "smug pepe.jpg". has it moved or was deleted?
>>524572399Sadly fairytale. I wish someone would bomb the shit out of jewtin
>>524579596Right like clearly someone is fucking lying and it's probably the person who refuses to show their data. Shouldn't this take like 20 minutes to objectively solve.
>>524578913>Why does a president of the biggest country on the planet, a country that that spans 11 time zones has to have multiple official residences?!?People from tiny countries simply cannot comprehend scale of world biggest countries.>>524579296What is the most American thing you've done since Christmas?>>524579319>because he's the most popular media person working for russian government?According to the same NAFO trannies, man.Maybe for people over 60. Maybe.>>524579498What's surprising is that in 35 years your population haven't collapsed, like the Baltoids, for example.
>>524579319Russians always do this shit whenever one of their government or government sponsored propagandists says something retarded, like when Dugin was getting non stop publicity after his daughter got blown up.>Why are you talking about this guy? No one cares about him in Russia, in fact no one even knows who he is! It's only NAFO who cares! The problem is when Putin himself starts saying stupid shit and they can't use that tactic anymore.
>>524579498When I first started talking to Europeans, there was plenty of scolding about my lack of education on European history. I've done a lot of reading since then, and somehow your country never came up. I've heard of Sarajevo of course. I've been to Budapest, and Austria is famous. Italy, obviously. But I must admit that if I had to draw Europe from memory, I'd put ocean where you are, or maybe just draw a blob and call it "YugoBalkans."Tell me something noteworthy about your country's history or culture, shitflinger.
>>524579596You're really gonna go all in on this being fake? And the reasons for your position are "I feel entitled to undeniable court room evidence within hours of the attack?" What reason do we have for doubting that this happened?
>>524579774>Right like clearly someone is fucking lyingI think the coke snorting Jew who suspended elections is an unreliable source of information. How about you, do you want to stake your credibility on a Zelenski tweet, retard?
>>524572399these drones just flew over my place! it's over! Two more weeks!
>>524580008>russia saysthere is all the reason i need for doubti don’t even believe Ukraine. but i definitely don’t believe a well known liar.
>>524579805>What is the most American thing you've done since Christmas?Since he hasn't answered yet, I'm going to guess he masturbated to interracial pornography and posted online about secret weapons America would unleash in a hypothetical war against China.
>>524572399it's moskyw
>>524579805Tito had multiple palaces too and Yugoslavia wasn't a country to span multiple timezones. I wonder where the convergance is?>What's surprising is that in 35 years your population haven't collapsed, like the Baltoids, for example.Funny that, eh? The only reason Russian population hasn't collapsed as much is because you import churkas and central asians by the bucketload. I've met both a Russians and a Ukranian, pre war, that moved to Slovenia. Both from Moscow.>>524579919No need to get so butthurt.
>>524580156You've already retreated this far? Do you also deny that Ukraine tried to shoot down Putin's plane, assassinated a general recently, killed Dugin's daughter, and has flung drones at Moscow on other ocassions? You're trying to retreat to a more reasonable position, but you've already committed to singling out this event as a lie by Russia. And you did it because you placed your faith in the tweet of a homosexual TV comedian.
>>524580439>strawman
So obviously a false flag. Sorry bots and zots
>>524580279>No need to get so butthurt.You can dish it out but you can't take it. Seriously though, tell me something interesting about your culture or history. I want to know.
>>524580142Lol no... I was more suggesting this was actually something serious and that while I know we are going to... There is clearly no need for playing the subversion game. America surely already knows who is lying and could prove it... So if we don't see proof wouldn't that indicate we were being misled?
>>524572759i hope seeing Oreshnic, but now with proper warheads
>>524572399Its not hohols.Its actually europe sabotaging peace talks.What a bunch of suicidal morons.
>>524579596>>524580477Your position is that this specific event was made up by Russia. You don't deny that any of the other attacks by Ukraine against Moscow were faked. It is appropriate to repent by writing something like "You're right, I got carried away believing Zelenski. We should wait to see." But for some reason you are unable to admit that your favorite coke addicted zionist is actually just unstable. There's no reason for Putin to make up such an attack. He doesn't gain or justify anything by making up an attack. This attack falls well within the pattern of Ukrainian attacks and isn't even the first assassination attempt against Putin. The lack of evidence is entirely reasonable since it only just happened.
>>524573012desu Ukraine been sending like 100 of drones to Russia daily, 99,9% intercepted and most aimed just to hit anything, regardless of civilian or not since defences are too tight.The only differnce there from any other day, is targeting Putin`s residence, which, if he was in, pretty much an assassination attempt, though more like just lashing out, since woudnt expect it to actually succeed.They do such provocations every time theres any sign of peace - a terror attacks, atttacks on Nucklear facilities etc. but this time Zelenski shot himsel in the foot.
>>524580651Your position here is that Russia made up an assassination attempt against Putin. Your doubt is entirely founded on a tweet by Zelenski. Do you also deny that Ukraine has made prior assassination attempts against prominent Russians? Like Dugin's daughter or general whoever a few days ago, or agaisnt Putin himself last year? Or is it just this event that's fake and just because Zelenski says so?
>>524580841yes it does he doesnt want the war to end and pretends its actually zelensky who doesnt want the war to end
>>524580841Anon we don't actually know anything. Both sides could be lying trying to provoke a situation.
>>524580841It makes seem like Putin is a victim snd its not his fault peace deal fell through. Putin loves his war and wants to continue while stalling Trumps actions with peace talks.
>>524580841i will categorically never believe any position russia is holding, and no one else in the real world does the same. good day
>>524580952>Targetting strategic objects>Targeting army commanders>Terrorist attacksYou what, suka, did you drink too much everclear?
>>524579805>According to the same NAFO trannies, man.>Maybe for people over 60. Maybe.feel free to name more popular russian journalist connected to russian governmentthen he will be the most quoted one
>>524574491you are just retarded with a head on propaganda. Ukraine launches round hundread long range drons towards Russia DAILY (nightly to be precise), and 99% of them are intercepted, easily. We nightly turn off mobile internet, since their drone navigate using it frequently. The most damage is intercepted drone falling somewhere and starting a fire. Planned attacks on facilities like oil refineres are conducted differently but even there, its 0,1% of success rate, they just keep sending them.Meanwhile OURs actually hit things.
>>524572921>slavs>white>peopleKEKAROO!
>>524575857Whats the point of ANY ukrainian actions?
>>524580527We have cool castles :)
>>524581001Kek little nigger know nothing! I knew you were still around. Sorry what's your fucking retard tier take on this? ((( I'm kidding you don't have opinions you only troll)))
>>524581044>>524579774>Right like clearly someone is fucking lying and it's probably the person who refuses to show their data.You retreated from here ^ to here V>Anon we don't actually know anything. Both sides could be lying trying to provoke a situation.What fucking situation needs provoking? They're already in a war where they're striking each other's capitals. You're grasping to avoid admitting that you went off the deep end into bizarro conspiracy land because you trusted a homosexual Jew's tweet.
>>524581482Gaybe lnkn with another nothing take completely misreading everything posted.
>>524581160>will categorically never believe any position russia is holdingThat's going poorly for you>and no one else in the real world does the sameYou're on an anonymous message board appealing to popularity. You're simultaneously admitting that you delusionally believe Russia to be less popular than the Jew who controls Ukraine. Ukraine had to close its international legion. Meanwhile Americans are moving to Russia or joining Orthodox churches in massive waves.
>>524581204You are supporting the absolute abhorent and shameless evil, and you are either as abhorent and shameless, or equally dumb to not understand and see it.Ukraine military only activity is trying to spread terror, since they lack any actual capability. So the kill random civilians, target towns randomly (been doing since 2014) since cant even have capability to hit any military target, ALL they do - like the Kursk incursion, is JUST to create a media picture or hype. You are clueless, but your idiocy and ignorance wont save you. Everyone who was involved in supporting this evil- will pay.
NAFO cope in this thread is hilarious. The irony if the drone story is fake but Trump still believes it.
>>524581636Needlessly argumentative without making real points... Check
>>524581105>It makes seem like Putin is a victimPutin has no reason to try to create this impression>snd its not his fault peace deal fell throughThe peace deal that was never presented to Russia? Putin was worried that might be blamed on him and decided to lie about an assassination attempt?>Putin loves his war and wants to continue while stalling Trumps actions with peace talks.If he wanted to stall, he'd accept the ceasefires. I'm curious because I've never heard this narrative before. Can you explain what he wants about the war? Why would Putin want the war to continue and not end by securing Russia's stated objectives? If the war itself is the point then what is he getting from it?
>>524580279Tito herded the whole 3rd world and was the last remaining WW2 chad, leaving nothing to his family and they could've been billionaires. Unlike Putin, who stole national wealth with his buddies, Tito created it from scratch with the people.
>>524581267>KEKAROO!You should try varying your language a bit. Also you come across as completely deranged. Post less gore and try to make arguments that don't consist of you just glorying in human sufferring.
>>524581651>since 2014The only places they've been bombing "since 2014" are Ukrainian towns and cities taken over by paramilitary goons from Russia. The police and military have a constitutional obligation to establish security where there's an armed insurgency. If Russia didn't invade and supply the separatist terrorists, nothing would've happened.
Sorry this thread is officially dead. Watch. Little nigger knows nothing is the ultimate thread killer. He immediately attacks everyone on everything without saying anything and when questioned changes the subject. Absolute fucking thread rapist. Fuck you gaybe lnkn>>524581767 bye
>>524581449That is really cool. What's that one called?
>>524581208>feel free to name more popular russian journalist connected to russian governmentEvery one of them, lol.>>524580279>I wonder where the convergance is?Your projections?
He is also a massive (((you))) Jew who sucks anyone he can finds dick for engagement when called out
>>524581851Since when are "police" allowed to shell peoples homes?You are a disgusting faggot shill
>>524580693You mean now not failing (5th try is the charm?)
>>524578529>Russia's forces in the SMO are volunteer onlyThis fucking board is hilarious hahaha
>>524581767Putin wants it to continue because once Donbabwe is clear, Zaporozje is essentially a free ride through the open fields with very little in the way of fortified towns. He probably thinks the worst is in the past and the future can only hold more conquered territory. The river is where I imagine he wants to stop.
>>524581469You're the one who called me "gaybe." I had to look that up because I don't hang out with homosexuals.>Sorry what's your fucking retard tier take on this?Ukraine lobbed drones into Russia, as it frequently does. Zelenski tweeted something that isn't correct, as he frequently does. Mentally unwell people on the internet instantly tried to build a personality around believing this incorrect tweet, as they do.
>>524581879Infront of the cave castle >>524581918Dictators be dictatoring.
>>524581208Also, don't ever call Solovyov a journalist, he's a talk show host.It's like calling Stephen Colbert a journalist.
imagine the kino if they killed Putin, instead we're stuck in the nothing ever happens timeline
>>524581996Since when are "peoples homes" armed insurgent separatist hideouts from which they launch ATGMs, with MLRS artillery at their disposal and anti-air installations too? The only faggot here is you, who would go scorched Earth if the spics tried to pull the same shit in Texas.
>>524582034relax, manlet.
>>524572399Israel can't behave for a single minute.
>>524581636lol
>>524581851>If Russia didn't invade and supply the separatist terrorists, nothing would've happened.The Donbas would have been ethnically cleansed by the guys wearing Swastickas.
>>524581636>Meanwhile Americans are moving to Russia or joining Orthodox churches in massive waves.That's nothing to be proud of since they're essentially negating a 300 year socioevolutionary advantage that was bestowed upon them by the Founding Fathers. Orthodox churches are intelligence assets for the intel agencies, as was the case in the Soviet Union and all the Warsaw pact countries. The real priests were sent to prison, the gulag or killed. What remained are people indoctrinated by the party to do its bidding and report on dissenters.
>>524582289It wouldn't have been ethnically cleansed if they didn't start an insurgency the moment their corrupt stooge in Kiev got deposed. Russia kept Kiev under its control and when they lost that, they pulled the separatist move on Ukraine, which they used as a threat of leverage over them to make them remain a corrupt shithole. The same story and scenario was pulled in Yugoslavia in the 90s with>unless you stay in a Yugoslavia that we dominate, we're gonna start separatist movements in your countries
>>524582024Zap is part of the territory he's demanding in Peace Agreements, right? So why would he sabotage a peace agreement that gets him that and instead choose to continue fighting for it?
>>524573165>Kiev spews this bullshit literally DAILY.>Kyivftfy
>>524582047Again, you are heavily projecting.Here's a lsit of Zelensky's residences:https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cпиcoк_oфициaльных_peзидeнций_выcших_дoлжнocтных_лиц_УкpaиныUse google translate, there's also version in hoholese.Note the Crimean properties, lol.
>>524572399GOOD! Hope they get him while he's on the shitter.
>>524582330>>524582445Turkey your dancing boy escaped the harem again.
>>524582449It'll open up a lot more territory for invading, with Kharkov and Odessa being up for grabs as they'd push into the belly of Ukraine. All of these regions are much easier to cut off and take over. Once they're out of the Donbas, it's one straight highway through the belly of the country. On top of that, I'm guessing he thinks its better to cut the capabilities of the country down now while they have momentum and establish better natural borders for the future, which will be easier to establish security in.
>>524582546>TurkeyThere's more of them in your country than in mine Fritzloid.
>>524582465Zelensky was a succesful actor, not a former KGB agent
>>524581651>All that projection Says the nation who levels all cities they come to "liberate". Mostly russian speaking cities of the east Ukraine. All of them became dust or are a nightmare to live in.
>>524582577Well, no one ever accused Bosnians of being smart.
>>524582102>would go scorched Earth if the spics tried to pull the same shit in Texas.Because mexican cartel members don't belong in Texas. The natives of the Donbas were fighting for their survival and freedom of religion and language against a CIA installed Jew. They have a lot more legitimacy to their cause for violence.>Since when are "peoples homes" armed insurgent separatist hideoutsThe people who live in those homes had to arm themselves and fight back against the people who were oppressing them. Same way this happened in Ireland, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc. Although the Donbas case is different because the causes which moved them to violence were basic human rights that shouldn't be ceded.
>>524582330>Orthodox churches are intelligence assets for the intel agencies, Zero evidenceZero trialsJust "a jew said shut them down"What a disgusting faggot you are
>>524582667All of those residences were built before he was born, some centuries before, you dummy.
>>524581767He thinks he is a great unifier, he thinks he can continue to war forever and reclaim "rightfull russian clay" up to weatern germany. He is clearly enjoying this war and doesnt want to stop, in his mind he only has victories. He found a way to manipulate Trump with his peace talk promises and Trump has delayed his sanctions on Russian oil for half a year now. Oil is the main income source Putin is using to buy manpower, without needing to start, possibly unrest generating, mobilisation.
>>524582816>According to material from Soviet archives, the current head of the ROC, Patriarch Kirill (Vladimir Gundyaev) was an active officer of the KGB prior to his rise in the church.>>524582896This one too?
>>524582445>It wouldn't have been ethnically cleansedThe CIA installed Jewish homosexual who mocked Christ on TV used his authority to degrade the legal status of these peoples' religion, language, and ethnicity. He sent his military to kill them with artillery strikes in residential neighborhoods. You are trying to convince me that he didn't want to do this, and wanted to protect Christianity and the Russian language.You further want me to believe that the people in the Donbas took up arms to secede... For no reason? And then voted to join Russia... Just because?
>>524582577I think you got lost. I'm asking why he would prefer to do this through warfare if he had the option of doing it through a peace treaty.
>>524582794The whole demographic setup in Ukraine was created by Soviet commies that planned the current demographic setup in Ukraine ahead of time. They could've included those parts of Ukraine(Crimea, Donbas, Lugansk, Odessa, Kharkov) as part of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Russia back in the Soviet Union. They however gave them to Ukraine because they knew they can control the whole country that way by holding the threat of separatist terrorism and sovereignty against them. The separatist movement of 2014 is not a response to being endangered by anyone from Kiev, but it is them making good on the promise of making the country disintegrate if they ever dare topple their stooge in Kiev. This is what this is about and every Slav who has ever had to deal with living in communist multiculturalism knows this.
>>524582816Tonnes of proofs that russia is finding moscow patriarchate. Pope been recorded to meet with fsb agents, had multiple Russian passports on them, giants sum of cash stashed, documents and propaganda guidelines confiscated. Happening in multiple european countries with Moscow patriarchate presense. Its not a church its a front.
>>524583143He will get more than he'd get by the treaty, that's the point. If you're winning, you have no reason to stop. He doesn't care if he'll lose another half a million men in the process because he is in for a Pyrrhic victory regardless of anything. If he takes off Zapo, which should be much easier than Donbas, then he can demand Odesa as part of a peace.
>>524583074Did the CIA rig the elections or what's your angle here? Funny how the 'separatists' got russian BUK systems to shoot down a civilian aircraft and then have the russian media and state play firehouse of lies for a half a decade with it.Member this? I member.
>>524582667>Zelensky was a succesful actorMost of his money comes from after America put him in charge of Ukraine.>not a former KGB agentA successful spy doesn't rely on issued equipment and can't be ordered to stop his side hustle because his bosses don't know about it. There's a famous American Ranger who was sent to Afghanistan to start an armed group. He succeeded. The US ordered him to return and he said no. Point here being that a successful intelligence operative makes a lot more than a TV comedian.
Putin running to call for daddy trump after Ukraine being mean to him is funny as shit Low key, what putin end goal would be if trump didn’t win? He is definitely the biggest winner out of trump win, by far. There still 1000+ atacms that are going to be retire soon that Biden could give to Ukraine and could fuck Russia a lot, but trump win in the end. Putin was more happy about trump win than Probably most of maga, ngl
>>524583363>Most of his money comes from after America put him in charge of Ukraine.And how did 'america' do that? >Point here being that a successful intelligence operative makes a lot more than a TV comedian.lmao
>>524583074Ukraine has proper Orthodox Church with authocefaly. Ukrainians had the most jolly traditional Christmas this year with people not loosing hope, singing pastorals on the streets and going on koliadnyky all with traditional dress up as three kings, carrying Bethlehem stars and words of bible. There are tonnes of videos. Your lies about christianity/orthodoxy being banned is completely powerless here, for anyone with a brain, go fuck yourself.
>>524582816There is overwhelming evidence. It's happening in Bosnia, Montenegro, Belarus, Moldova and across the entirety of the Eastern/SE Europe. This is really you being misinformed about local happenings, which isn't surprising because I'm not in the know for what's happening in some parts of some US states. You're a comfy faggot talking bullshit from across an ocean, thinking these Orthodox commie spies are like your commercialized burger priest that talks about benevolence every Sunday. The Russian Orthodox church is the key vessel that ideologically envisioned this war. They've been in place for half a century.>>524583203Precisely this.
>>524583057>Patriarch Kirill (Vladimir Gundyaev) was an active officer of the KGBZero source for that faggotJust all.you troons say so
>>524572399Ziggers are lying if Ukies wanted putin dead they would have done it a long time ago this is a false flag.
>>524572399>hohols kill dozens of generals in their houses using suicide bombers and blackmail of locals>Putin: lmao, I don't care!>hohols attack Putin's bunker for the first time>REEEEEPutin is such a pidor.
>>524583414i sense a butthurter
>>524573012Russians have proven to be relatively honest about this war. Hohols and Poles have proven to be compulsive liars and subhumans who should all die. The ideal would be to send American weapons to Russia and provide Intel to Russian forces on how to completely exterminate all of you.
>>524583476>overwhelming evidenceName a single trial faggot
>>524583521Didn't take you long to default to your programming.
>>524583448It's the Westoid cross-infused smooth brain that thinks that wherever there is a cross, it must be because a righteous person holds it, but they don't understand how abused and misused it's been in former communist countries.>He has a cross around his neck and is in a church, surely he is the good guy!It's like their brain cannot process that people use it as a militant ideological grift, just like Islamic terrorists do.
>>524583567>Russians>Honest How are those attack mosquitoes doingYou're the most retarded burger or lahta with a vpn, in any case, go fuck yourself
clear russian false flag, everyone falling for this is either a shill or a retard
>>524572399holy fuck just sign a deal already, they drone struck your mansion so what, it's a war. both sides have done worse. this sounds like an excuse not to sign
>>524583181I'm surprised that you know the first half. Damn near no one watched Putin's speech on the history.>They however gave them to Ukraine because they knew they can control the whole country that way by holding the threat of separatist terrorism and sovereignty against them.This is an interesting take. I always assumed that Gorbachev desperately wanted to get rid of Western Ukraine because they're a toxic financial asset, but they refused to leave without the resource regions, despite those regions being people they hate.>The separatist movement of 2014 is not a response to being endangered by anyone from Kiev, but it is them making good on the promise of making the country disintegrate if they ever dare topple their stooge in Kiev.This is where your reasoning falls apart. You believe that a significant portion of the population in the Donbas were sleeper agents waiting to destabilize Ukraine on the whim of the Russian Federation. And everyone in the Donbas saying anything to the contrary is just lying. But the Jew is telling the truth and so is NATO.And then you expect me to believe that Azov Batallion was actually not at all hostile to the Russians in the Donbas, and there was no oppression of these people except as a response to them rising up, which they did basically without motive. The motives you've described really do not cause people to pledge their lives to a cause.
>>524583551no one cares gayboy no peace with ukroshits
>>524583603What trial are you expecting Ivan from Oregon oblast? How can Ukraine trial Kirill who holds the reins for the infiltrators? Do you think life is like a Hollywood movie?
>>524583567absolutely. we should ally with russia and end this charade of human rights of these butthurters
>>524583555Yeah but now he will take the gloves off
>>524583263>He will get more than he'd get by the treatyThis conversation between you and I started with me asking >>524581105to explain what he meant by "Putin loves his war and wants to continue." He was saying that the drone strike was faked into existence to justify continuing the war. I was asking why he would do that in that case. I think you're correct that the Peace Agreement does not do what Russia said is necessary for peace and that's why the war will continue. The Russians, Putin, Lavrov, don't ever seem to need to conjure an excuse. They just say it how it is.
>>524583203You discord faggot shills are patheticZero proofCope and seethe
>>524583074Russia didn't attack because Zelensky said Crust is Kang on TV. Kys retarded circumcised boomer
>>524583567>>524583819t. John Burgerov from the warm water port of Corpus Christi
>>524583726>You believe that a significant portion of the population in the Donbas were sleeper agents waiting to destabilize Ukraine on the whim of the Russian Federation. And everyone in the Donbas saying anything to the contrary is just lying. But the Jew is telling the truth and so is NATO.I don't believe that because I know how war looks and works from first hand when you're caught up in it as a civilian. They started the separatist movement, the police and army move in, they get shot and respond. Then the separatists start using increasingly more force, requiring increasingly more force from the police and army and this leads to collaterals. This then starts changing the public perception, priests roll out with their prayers for unification, agents from Russia cross the border to set up logistics and comms and thousands of pre-prepared fights cross the border. They then start repressing the local population and forcing them to fight, just like Ukraine does to its own nowadays. If they go to Russia, they get sent back to fight. >You believe that a significant portion of the population in the Donbas were sleeper agents waiting to destabilize Ukraine on the whim of the Russian Federation. And everyone in the Donbas saying anything to the contrary is just lying. But the Jew is telling the truth and so is NATO.The Azov battalion was hostile, but they would've stomped out within 48 hours if the army and police could've established security in time for Azov to not matter.
>>524583973t nafo butthurter nigger i hope you get to be in a ditch soon
>>524583772So you think its rediculous for ukraine to have held a trial before they shut down a thousand churches?Thanks for proving what a piece of shit you are
>>524583921He doesn't necessarily love it nor would he start it if he knew it'd turn out like this, a 4 year war, but he certainly has all incentive to keep it going now because the victory is going to be a Pyrrhic one.
>>524584057>then start repressing the local population and forcing them to fight,You faggots are truely sick people
>>524583726There is zero evidence of any oppresion of russian speaking people in Ukraine, they had multiple parties, they could elect mayors whod speak only russian language. Children would speak russian/ukrainian in schools intergangably, if you look in YouTube channels of east ukrainian schools youd see videos from poetry events where both russian and ukrainian poetry was read alongside. They'd post victory day celebration videos, with children giving speeches and both languages. Nothing indicated russians were oppressed in Ukraine. Well until russia occupied Donbass and made their lives hell with known conmen put as "presidents" and now russia leveling russian speaking cities and towns to rubble.
>>524584110Like this?
>>524583946All.proofs are public in the local newspapera and criminal cases. They are treading with extreme caution to not jail popes without total investigation so idiots like you wouldn't yell about religious discrimination.
>>524584150oh shut up already the same chabad mafia own both side holy fuck Zelenski rabbi eats with Putin rabbi can you fucking fags stop being so fucking delusional
>>524583730Go get blown up and crippled on the front Sasha russia is going to grind down another few million more men for a couple hundred yards of some field
>>524583726>This is an interesting take. I always assumed that Gorbachev desperately wanted to get rid of Western Ukraine because they're a toxic financial asset, but they refused to leave without the resource regions, despite those regions being people they hate.The communists work in a way where they create ethnic pockets that they use as a leverage against weaker nations. The Soviets could've used their army to reunify with Moldovan territories where Russians lived, they could've done the same in Georgia, Ukraine and the Baltic states too. I am speaking about the individual Soviet Socialist Republics where Russia was one of them. They could've easily integrated all ethnic Russian regions in the CCCP into the Soviet Socialist Republic of Russia within it and all of this would've been avoided, but they drew borders specifically to keep every risky region under wraps. This is what the Chinese are doing to Russia right now in the Far East. It's the same school of thought.
>>524584211there is evidence youre just a dishonest butthurter. the entire national pathos of westoid ukraine was to impose themselves and subjugate everything russian and then they did it via legislation and a violent illegal coup.
>>524584119Show me the shut down churches you liar.
>>524584207Those are basics of war. The one forcing most people to take a gun are your own who also don't let you leave.
>>524583344>Did the CIA rig the elections or what's your angle here?No, the country that proudly displays swastickas selected a homosexual jew to rule them. The presence of CIA goons, Victoria Nuland, and constant NATO plans agaisnt Russia being published at the same time were completely coincidental. I would never question the integrity of Ukraine's democracy, even now that it's suspended.But I'll state it flatly. Without knowing the details, no I don't believe that Zelenski was legitimately elected or has ever represented the will of the Ukrainian people. Every Ukrainian I have met hates Jews, Zelenski and everything he's done to their country. I have never met one who claimed to vote for him. I have never read online a Ukrainian claiming to have voted for him, though I've read many saying they had no idea who he was until he was elected.>Funny how the 'separatists' got russian BUK systems to shoot down a civilian aircraft and then have the russian media and state play firehouse of lies for a half a decade with it.I don't deny that Russia supported the separatists. I do remember this incident. America was supported by the French in the American revolution. This doesn't invalidate the cause of the revolution, nor does it mean it was all faked into existence by France, even though French participation was critical to success. The fact remains that America and the Donbas Republics had legitimate grievances against the people oppressing them, and took up arms due to personal experience and the kind of motive that a change in lifestyle towards violence requires. You're not going to convince me that this revolution was purely Russian troops in disguise or was instigated purely by RF agitation without any other motive.
>>524582004>failingDo piggers really believe their own shit?
>>524584254yeah. exterminating your ethnicity will be a pleasure. you can take the whore melania with u
it's difficult for people to understand but slavs think civilians dying is normal but it's unacceptable for gov officials to be targeted in this manner. it's a big deal for them.
>>524584373sup nigger, youre disgusting to me i loathe you cant wait that there is anudda civil war here to kill all yall
>>524584528Consult the chart
>>524584590find out from who u lmao. butthurters are beyond delusional, should be muzzled really, irrelevant countries and people
>>524584389I accept your surrender>>524584376True, during occupation times soviets would send hundreds of thousands "workers" and "managers" to socialistic countries to disrupt nations, disrupt native languages and unty. At the same time they were killling and deporting local inteligentia, and anyone who seemed too active. Now Baltics are left with aggressive russian minorities, who refuse still, after 35 years to learn local languages, create ghettos with elevated crime and hiv statistics, and they cry fascism every time someone tried to make them learn the language of the country they live in. They are very usefull to Kremlin.
>>524584506>regurgitated talking points>no evidenceThat's weird from someone who keeps demanding evidence.>If our unit hadn't crossed the border, everything would have fizzled out, like in Kharkiv, like in Odessa"-Girkin
>>524583448>Ukrainians had the most jolly traditional Christmas this year with people not loosing hopeUkrainians overwhelmingly want to remove Zelenski and surrender according to all independent polling. That's why elections are suspended.>Your lies about christianity/orthodoxy being banned is completely powerless hereOh cool, Russian Orthodoxy is allowed still? There are no banned Orthodox churches?>>524583652>that wherever there is a cross, it must be because a righteous person holds it, but they don't understand how abused and misused it's been in former communist countries.You want me to side against one church and in favor of another. The church supported by a Jew who hates Christ is the good one in your opinion. I take the opposite stance. I think the people who fought for their religious freedom in the Donbas felt like they were being oppressed intolerably.
>>524584589>glowzigger trying to push civil war propaganda They are going to take you off desk duty soon kek you know what that means maybe you can try riding a horse before you get droned I hear that is popular with your kind. I’m sure the cavalry charge will work eventually comrade
>>524584333Why would he lol, Putin can play trump like a fiddle. People can talk smack about Russia and Putin but they know exactly how to handle a man like donald trump and are playing him to squeeze every last concession out of him that they can get. You have to admire how well they play the game.
>>524584506There was zero oppression you fuck and there is overwhelming evidence nibody gave a shit which language you're speaking, everyone was treated equally. Liar.
>>524572399i imagine this can be easily verifeid through satellite footage which probably every major country has and it coudl be disputed within hours if the claim isnt real so its pretty obvious it isthe good news is if zelensky does get whacked hes a jew so that -1
>>524584759>You want me to side against one church and in favor of another. The church supported by a Jew who hates Christ is the good one in your opinion. I take the opposite stance. I think the people who fought for their religious freedom in the Donbas felt like they were being oppressed intolerably.All I said is that the Russian Orthodox church is an intelligence asset. You're creating a strawman here by saying I think the other church is good. It'll take multiple generations for there to be a good, honest church there that has cut all ties with the communist past.
>>524584805No im done with shitters like you, no more unity, you instigated a war now go fight it. Eat shit i bet youre gay and fat
>>524573012Noone is going to believe zelensky and ukraine.Now, that being said, I also don't believe Russia! :DFurthermore, I think it would be convenient for US to ahm, believe Russia... for both sides! And let Russia finish their end so we can focus on here and North and South without war. Russia should not believe Denmark when they say US is trying to take back Greenland and that is belongs to them. No.Greenland belongs to US because US was there first, and Russia knows it's true.Everything is so simple.
>>524584891>actually you have to disprove our claim or its assumed trueNo wonder you guys are fucked.
>>524584842That only works because Trump has very low intelligence, not because Putin is a great manipulator. Everyone knows Putin is a liar, but for some reason Trump believes him and listens to him.
>>524584867When the war was starting here in the 90s, the Serbs also kept reporting on "babies being thrown to lions at local zoos" by fundamentalists kek it obviously never happened.
Not believing Russia will only lead to mass war down the line and loss... it's better to divvy up the big pie now, world. Without suiciding.I think, I want to believe!
>>524584057>They started the separatist movementLet's start with step one. Why did the people of the Donbas do this? Your claim is that Russia wanted them to. Sure. But why did they do it? If they're not being oppressed at all and everything is peaceful and they have decent treatment, then why did the people of the Donbas start an insurrection?
>>524585065literally every major country, likely is watching, that exact location, with atleast 1 or more satelite right now, anyone would be able to defintively prove it didtn happen, instantlyIts probably one of the most surveilled areas on earth lmao
>>524584759Orghodox church of Ukraine which also has masses in Russian? Which has been given authocefaly by the rest of Orthodox churches? Yes. Popes were asked by law to cut ties with FSB front though, to cut ties with a country they're at war with, and the clock hasnt even run out yet.So, no, there is no oppression against Orthodoxy, even Russian speaking orthodoxy. Just a requirement to not confide with the enemy which is actively shooting missiles and is destroying Ukrainian cities, mostly with russian speaking populations.
>>524584842people are so naive behind the scene Russia and the US are already dividing ressources for Israel profit while they didn even finish their fake war Russia end up cleaning its house of any soul that could have ever rebelled to the current bolshevik retakeover of Russia Ukraine is gone totally, sold in pieces to blackrock and (((international interests))) 2 - 3 generations wiped out on both sides and still going both countries are going to be filled with large quantity of immigration that is going to forever transform everything the technate will go from side to side all that for what
>>524585145It was already proven it didn't happen. Your lies are weak and will not work on anyone except Trump.
>>524585100Because they wanted to reunify with Russia? As I've said, it's a separatist movement.
>>524584759Elections are suspended by constitution which bans elections during wartime. If Putin wants elections so bad he can pause hostilities to allow them
>>524572921I'm waiting for the Kremlin to take a bigger hit than it did(I think I'm remembering right a drone got through to it a few years ago) and Putin, pissed it made him drop his last sweet roll, rage nukes keev in response
lol
>>524585200how has it been proven?has any country released satelite footage of the residence during the time this strike was claimed to have happened?Why notIt exists
>>524578619Dude putin is delaying any sort of peace plan because of a made up Kremlin attack
>>524584211>There is zero evidence of any oppresion of russian speaking people in UkraineI attend an orthodox church in the united states and I chaperoned at a church camp where two refugee children from Kharkiv. They fore some reason compulsively would correct russian pronunciations into Ukrainian, and when I asked them what language they spoke said, "Rus- uh, I mean, Ukrainian." Why are children from Kharkiv afraid of being caught speaking Russian?
>>524585145>prove it didn't happenThat's not how the burder of proof works, retardkun
>>524585321Has Russia release any evidence proving it happened by Ukrainian drones, operated by Ukrainians and launched out of Ukraine? Calling Trump and saying "this happened" isn't proof.
>>524584323>All.proofs are public in the local newspapera and criminal cases.So post some. This is the first I've ever seen the claim that there's actual public evidence of espionage.
Russians are all gay niggers
>>524585366If someone has 24/7 surveillence footage of an area, and a person says a crime was committed in that area, and you own the footage, and you say it didnt happen, why dont you release the footage and prove it?this is such a jewish line of arguing your usingpost nose kike
>>524585321Lavrov was caught off mike saying it's all complete lies. Anyone with an IQ of above 80, which of course excludes Trump, know it's a complete lie and fabrication because russians always lie. No evidence has been presented by you.
>>524585521>Russia says something happened>Russia doesn't prove something happened>Expects you to prove that it didn't happen>Calls you a Jew if you point it outReally kek
>>524585537The problem here isn't IQ because Russians are smart people. It's simply lies that they convince themselves of. It's a pathological state of mind.
>>524585521>calls someone a kike while using kike rhetoric The problem is you guys aren't nearly as smart as kikes.So, you have the evidence or not?
>>524585537>lavrov was caught off micNo actaully the only video of the russians off mic, was of the ambassador who essentailly addmitted hes jewish and he loves israelNo lavrov was not caught off mic saying the drone strike was fakeIm certain trump knows because america has fuckign satelittes, any devleoped country , can verify this claim, instantly, within minutes lmaoEither the satellite footage shows itOr it doesnt
>Ukraine attacked one of the most secure places in the country but we have no proof, not even grainy camera footage Very convenient. Does anyone actually believe this?
>>524585235>lections are suspended by constitution which bans elections during wartimeThe election is banned during martial law, not wartime. Zelenski can lift martial law and hold elections. He would if he thought he'd win. America held elections during its civil war. Russia held elections in this war. Britain held elections during the troubles. I find it interesting that everying the coke addicted Jewish actor does you always interpret in the most favorable way possible and make any excuse for.
>>524572399both sides have been droning each other for years at this point. why the outrage now?and what would even be the point in attacking some villa in the woods with 90 drones?
>>524585636bro im literally not even russianIm from a country russia hates lmaoRegardless, EU jewish propaganda is unacceptableMossad is a terrorist organization
>>524585738Prove that Lavrov wasn't caught off mic admitting it's all a lie.Besides, Putin was not at that palace, and it's not even Putin's palace, so why the fuck would he be there in the first place or the Ukrainians attack a place that's not Putin's and where he's not and has never been?
>>524585855So weve moved from "it wasnt drone striked"to"putin wasnt even there"I denounce the talmudDeath to Mossad
>>524585354Because you made it up, because they dont want to be associated with Russia after what Russia did to their homes, because you're ar pathologic liar. Why would they be afraid to be themselves in USA? Many explanations to your bullshit. And in the end its Putin who caused it. Ukraine was the closest, the most friendly country to Russia. Population would speak two languages interchangeably, russian cars would be listed as "domestic" in car sales websites, people would cheer for russian footbal team because they're "our boys". But everything changed after Russias betrayal of this friendship, when Russia without declaration of war, would attack Ukraine in 2003 in 2014, then 2022. After 2022, no Ukrainian is gonna be friendly with Russia. Everyone lost somebody, had a relative injured or forced to flee, all because of Putins actions. Putin turned a real brotherly nation into mortal enemies for next 50 years at least. All he had to do, is keep being friendly, trade and not be an imperialistoc chauvinist, but he couldn't help himself. And you are his lapdog.
>>524585537>Lavrov was caught off mike saying it's all complete lies.If it was off mic then how would you know about it? You made this up.
Russians are such little bitches. They started the war with kill teams infiltrated into Kiev targetting that little heeb and look at them now, sharting themselves because the Ukrainians pay them back in kind with car bombs and missile strikes.
most obvious false flag in history. its well known that russia is only engaging with negotations because they know ukraine will reject all of it (russia wants war to go on). problem is that trump is close to convincing ukraine to accept russias terms. but russia doesn't actually want this because they know that they can get even more if the war continues. so how do you solve this problem? false flag putins house. now you have an excuse to keep bombing away and leave the negotiations without seeming like it was your fault.
>>524585776>Britain held elections during the troublesLove you how skipped world war 2 there, buddy.>The election is banned during martial law, not wartime.Low IQ
>>524585742Are FSB niggers even too lazy to make some quick AI slop for their narrative? Not like it really matters anyway since the average Russian serf will accept it regardless.
>>524585067Trump is only in it for the money (his personal gain and for his inner circle) while regular Americans are told that affordability is a hoax.The only ones who believe the Kremlin shills are whatever mouth breathers are left in miga and boomers on facebook.
>>524585469https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukrainian-priest-arrested-for-spying-for-russia-in-exchange-for-family-s-relocation-50505124.htmlhttps://tvpworld.com/89160744/reuters-report-russia-mobilizes-moldovas-clergy-to-sway-elections-https://hrwf.eu/moldova-three-hundred-moldovan-priests-went-on-a-free-pilgrimage-to-russia/
>>524572399I think that Europe should give Ukraine more long range bombs so Ukraine can start pelting Russia's big cities. I am getting tired of Russian propaganda postin on /pol/. If we are lucky one of those bombs will land one one of Putin's trollfarms and the kremlinbots plaguing /pol/ will be gone.
>>524585776>Just illegally lift the martial law when your country is bombed daily
>>524585905>After 2022, no Ukrainian is gonna be friendly with Russia.Russia is the destination of choice for Ukrainian refugees. Polling in Ukraine overwhelmingly surrports negotiating peace ASAP. About 1/5 of Ukraine's population, the Donbas, voted to join Russia after fighting for independence from Ukraine. Ukraine's armed forces recruit exclusively through kidnapping because Ukrainians don't want to join the military to fight Russia. I don't think it's true that Ukrianians feel any nationalist pride towards their Jewish tyrant or any particular hatred towards Russia. The facts don't support this narrative, and I'm not going to take the word of an online stranger against my own personal experience and all the independent polling.I find it really suspicious that your narratives ascribe no agency to the West and only ever involve Zelenski when you're explaining his reprehensible behavior by reaching for narratives that would justify him but can't be verified. Why are you so invested in the character virtue of a homosexual TV comedian who mocks God?
>>524586116We're gonna have to bomb India.
>>524585776Did Britain have 20% of its land under occupational and hundreds of precision weapons which could hit poll centers daily?
>>524584998They banned the ukrainian orthodox church too, tranny faggot shill. Which is based in Turkey.>https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/24/europe/ukraine-zelensky-orthodox-church-ban-intl
>>524585957>Love you how skipped world war 2 there, buddy.Because the British would have gotten rid of Churchill and would not have helped the soviets invade Europe if given the choice. That's another example of a politician using his power to prevent elections, as Zelenski has done here. Will you acknowledge that Zelenski has the authority to allow elections and is instead preventing them? Or will your persis in the lie?
>>524586265>About 1/5 of Ukraine's population, the Donbas, voted to join Russia after fighting for independence from Ukraine. Ah yes 99% "referendum" and Austria wanted to join Nazi Germany. Lmao
>>524583448Orthodox Christmas is in january
>>524572399Just please drone strike zelenskyy already I'm sick of hearing about this gay war
>>524586265>Ukraine's armed forces recruit exclusively through kidnapping because Ukrainians don't want to join the military to fight RussiaThere is at most a few thousand of people recruited this way, with Ukraine recruiting 10-30 thousand monthly. Mostly due do patriotism and good military wage of around 2000 dollars. They know they are fighting defensive war against occupier who wants to end their nation.
>>524586102Do you have any sources not funded by the CIA?
>>524572399>don't attack the leaders goy, only kill the fodder on the front lines"leaders"
>>524586265Youre just a biggest putin lapdog who says the stupidest things only room temperature IQ jeets would believe in.
>>524572399Thank God all NINETY-ONE of the NINETY-ONE NATO drones were shot down. This Wunderwaffe will be heading to the frontlines IMMEDIATELY. Oinkraine will collapse after 2 more weeks of 3 day SMOs glory to Putinakhoy.
>>524586370You can't be this stupid, right? Why do you think its called martial law? I want you rub those two braincells together.
>>524586336>The new law gives the UOC and other religious groups nine months to cut ties with Russia or risk being shut down by court order. The law passed Ukraine’s parliament on August 20Just dont have ties with the enemy during a war. Its not that hard isn't it? If Orthodoxy is defined as "taking orders from Moscow" during a war with Russia as an aggressor then they should be just treated as traitors.
>>524586289>We're gonna have to bomb India.I'm ok with Ukraine nuking India. I'll unironically be for Europe supplying Ukraine with nukes if they get rid of the trollfarms.
>>524586402Wrong, most orthodox churches use updated calendar and have christmas in december, together with the whole world. Christmas in January was pushed by soviets to make New Years as a new atheist main holiday, with Christmas pushed to a side. Christmas was always the holiday of new begining, when the days start to get longer, the day of longest night. All churches updated their calendars to match the astronomical year, except the ones used as a conflict point by state actors like Russia.
>>524586531Can you stop lying?
>>524573012>believe the jews>believe the russiansThis is an impossible choice.
>>524587062>Christmas was always the holiday of new begining,Pagan swampman lecturing me on christianity, only on /pol/
>>524573012a kike denies lol
>>524576964>civiliansyou dont care about that in Palestine thou
>>524587147Christianity fucking adopted pagan rites and christified them, you uncultured swine.
>>524573012Why is Zelensky negotiating with America for peace with Russia?
>>524573012how this is mofo not dead yet
>>524587474False pop history that also concerns Catholics, not Orthodox churches. You have no idea what you are talking about, pagan swampman.
>>524586402>>524587828I detect a Serbian in Austria. Prove me wrong.Serbs celebrate it in January but the Bulgarians, Greeks and Romanians celebrate it the same time as Catholics.
>>524580520Yes but this is le pol where everyone unquestioningly believes every single thing the Kremlin says while pretending to be 'open minded skeptics who don't trust the gubmint'.
>>524588087>we is western saaaaaaar It kinda disgusts me to think Orthodog Slavs celebrate at the same time as me.
>>524586102Thank you for the links. I think less of you for holding your positions based on these. New Voice of Ukraine doesn't strike me as a reliable source, given that the point of contention I have is that I don't believe the gay jewish administration who hates Jesus Christ is going to root corruption out of Christian churches. Rather, I suspect that they're intentionally oppressing a Christian church because it is Christian. That is more in line with the motives of a gay Jew who hates Christ. The article doesn't present any public evidence that the priest did what he's accused of. Just the claim that he did things, from anonymous unofficial sources supposedly within the SBU. Strangely missing from the article is an explanation as to how a priest had time to spy on military bases and how he was detected by intelligence services.The same author wrote articles boosting Amnesty Internationals false claims about Russian Warcrimes. While the warcrimes are real, AI's report has a Methodology subsection with small print explaining that any and all warcrimes committed agaisnt Ukrainians were ascribed to Russia even if Russia didn't commit them. After digging I found all the torture and execution of POWs was committed by Chechens. The journalist who failed to see through this can't be trusted to get the topic we're discussing right.In the second article, the evil criminal thing the priest did was tweet, “We are being advised to abandon faith, language, and our roots in exchange for foreign rules and ‘European values’.” The first article's story would be egregious espionage if true. But this one is normal priestly behavior and not a justification for outlawing a church.The third article cites anonymous sources about a meeting held by ??? and funded by ??? which may or may not be a legitimate religious service and which may or may not result in priests saying things which could potentially affect the elections in their home countries.
>>524586194>Just illegally lift the martial lawIt's not illegal for Zelenski to lift martial law. Bombs do not cause martial law. Martial law does not protect against bombs, it protects against elections. Russia has the same law, as does every other nation for all time, that there are no elections during martial law. So why does Moscow have elections? Because they're democratic and want to get the votes of the people, if only to gauge opinions. Why doesn't the CIA installed Jew allow elections? Oh, because he has the best intentions of the Ukrainians at heart, of course. He's very worried about the safety of the people he kidnaps and sends to the frontline.
>>524586381If the Donbas doesn't want to join Russia then why is the separatism over? If the Donbas didn't want to leave Ukraine, then why was there separatism?>and Austria wanted to join Nazi GermanyYou can't think of any reason that Austria might support the Austrian who took over Germany? Really?
>>524586494>There is at most a few thousand of people recruited this way>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Ukraine>On 29 October 2024, Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council Secretary Oleksandr Lytvynenko reported that 1,000,050 Ukrainians had been conscripted into the Armed Forces since 24 February 2022 and that a further 160,000 were in the process of being drafted.[39]
>>524588520Holy mental gymnastics pal.
>>524587828It is in december you idiot. In the Julian Calendar which Moscow Patriarchate uses it is in December. It was the Julians calendars shortest day, when Julian calendar was still in sync with astronomy. Retards in the Orthodox churches deny reality and refuse to update their calendars leap year calculations because of 600 year old personal grudges between priests which split chrstianity into western and eastern.Christians DID adopt pagan rites to christianity for easier and less confrontational christinisation. You can cope as you like, you russian swine, but the funniest bit is you're defending soviet practice which used this disrepancy between calendars to sideline christmas to a secondary role in soviet union, making new years as main and central winter holiday. They even repaganized real christian Saint Nicholas to mythical demon - Grandpa Freeze, who brings gifts on New Years instead of Christmas. And yet you defend this. Lmao.
>>524586494>They know they are fighting defensive war against occupier who wants to end their nation.>https://news.gallup.com/poll/693203/ukrainian-support-war-effort-collapses.aspxIndependent polling shows the contrary. You have to remember that anyone over 30 in Ukraine wasn't born in Ukraine, but was born in the USSR.
>>524588520You keep proving yourself as mindless russian propaganda shill who is working point by point by metodichka.
>>524587086>nv.uaThe Ukrainian government and its mouthpieces are literally and entirely on life support from DC. He's correct that the sources you gave depend on being DC stenographers for their funding. I focused my earlier critiques on the fact that the authors are known liars with shoddy journalism, but this is also a real concern.
