In the end this will be result. Russia will completely collapse under pressure of hundreds of years ripping of annexed nations only for benefit of muscovites aka Moscow and StPetersburg. Kola peninsula and Murmask region, old Karelia, will return to finnish tribes. Massive changes are coming and there is nothing to stop them. Present Russia is lot weaker than anyone can realize.
Putin will be remember as the man who destroyed Russia...and he's realizing it deep down.
>>524584430i'm tired of pretending russians and ukrainians are white
Uralic cope thread
>>524584430we don't want that zigger polluted land, the fumigation and building of infrastructure would cripple our economy even further
>>524584639Mate russia has collapsed like 5 times past 300 years
>>524584725d&c
>>524584430>rusland collapses, everyone gets a piece>all of a sudden finland, lithuania, estonia, latvia, belarus, ukraine are majority russian >they are all pissed and want rusland back>siberia remains frozen wasteland who wants rusland backeternal rus
>>524584639Putin and inner circle have been stealing billions during past decades, all what belong to russians. Russia would be leading in economy and technology if all those stolen money would have gone to developing Russia after Soviet collapse.Russians will wake up to this reality sooner or later, but it was Putin who destroyed Russia.
>>524584430two more weeks
>>524584955Thats why you are subservient cuck, dream bigger!
>>524584639>destroying Russiawouldnt be the first time>>524584923Yeah, China got broken up, conquered, reforged, rinse and repeat a shitload too
>>524584747>we don't want that zigger polluted land, the fumigation and building of infrastructure would cripple our economy even furtherFuck off retard. Thats mostly unhabited land full of resources and it literally belongs to finnish tribes by history. Ziggers can go back to Russia where they belong.
>>524584430Finlay ONLY exists because it begged Russia to save it from Swedes and Russian`s unlike them, gave it independence and cultural freedom. The ungrateful piece of land will be depopualted and used to breed cloned mamonths.
>>524585031>>all of a sudden finland, lithuania, estonia, latvia, belarus, ukraine are majority russianAll of sudden no ziggers will be allowed to stay. They can go back to Russia. Stealing land and homes doesnt work only for one direction.
>>524585146My bad, this is another level of based map painting.
>>524585031Not if we do a little gulag like was done to Karelian tribes in the past, it's only fair
>>524585269>Finlay ONLY exists because it begged RussiaNice coping but no.
>>524585465cope, swede-cuck
>>524584430>Unternehmen PerkeleWe must secure Finnic Lebensraum and reinstitute the glorious Finngolian Eurasian empire. Kek wills id :DDD
>>524585269Nigga what? Lmao where do you get your historyDo you really think that is what happened or you're just trolling?
>>524585391>>524585463>only niggers, muzzies and kikels are allowed to stay ok alright lmao >>524585465>>524585685well he is not wrong, as independent state Finland exists only because of Russia, without Russia giving Finland independence and being an ever present threat to Sweden, Finland would have remained as the "subhuman asian" to Swedish and rest of the world.
>>524585606I know my history, retard, but finns never begged russians to invade finnish lands, and it was far from sweet deal to be under Russian rule. It was better than before, but far from good.
>>524585685tell me more, what do they teach you at school about origin of Finland?>>524585829finns were slave pepople to the Swedes and Russia litterally liberated them and gave them a state. Your ancester rotate in their graves and spit at you, seeing how you basically abandoned their ancestry and became brainwashed swedecuck ready to serve
>>524584430This entire war may very well be a ploy (at least in part) to weaken Russia to the point that China can take huge chunks of it.I don't know which is worse, Chinese Communist expansion or continued Russian Empire.
>>524585749>as independent state Finland exists only because of RussiaNice coping, but in reality Russia was near to collapse and under resh communist rule it was better to let Finland go because it was far from left wing communist mind set, and trying to force Finland under communist rule would have been disaster.
>>524585907Real Russians got Mongolized and turned into orcs a long time ago.Modern Russia is "multi-ethic empire" being flooded with Churkas to keep ethnic Russians down.
>>524585606You are mixing entirely different things using half truths like a kike.Yes the autonomy was a major step towards statehood which might not have happened as part of Sweden.Also the Tsars varied heavily there were good ones and bad ones. Alexander II was mentionable as good one that is why he still has statue in Senate Square at very prominent spot. He gave Finnish language official status, allowed Finnish currency and Finnish army, and also put forwards lot of education etc reforms in Finland and elsewhere in the Russian Empire. He was a good man.But Alexander III was the opposite he didn't like II's reforms at all so he started to roll everything back and fuck shit up, he didnt do that much in Finland but he did roll back a lot in Russian Empire, he is largely responsible for the kikes being able to agitate a revolution when Nicholas II stepped into power even though he wasnt responsible for the shitty backtracking of reforms it was Alex III. Nicholas II did want to end Finlands autonomy though and remove Finnish official status and fold Finland to the Empire, his lackey he sent as General Governor was promptly shot though. So the kikes when they did the revolution and killed the Tsar, they attempted that same revolution here too, but unlike in Russia, here it failed, so now there was White Finland which was basically remnant of Imperial Russia but since Reds defeated Imperial Russia itself, well, Finland became independent.That is also why Winter War happened is because the kikes didn't get their revolution "naturally" like they wanted so they needed to try again.Lot of things needed to go right for the independence to happen.But this>Finlay ONLY exists because it begged Russia to save it from SwedesIs simply completely and utterly false Finland did not ask any war and the whole concept and idea of independent Finland didnt really exist before the swedish russian war
>>524585907He is not wrong either, Finland which has never existed as independent state before, did not have positive, negative or any opinion on being "freed" from Sweden.Finland by all means was conquered and subsequently given freedom from both Rusland and Sweden by commies, so technically they have communist party to thank for their freedom. >>524586047Finland was let got for a number of reasons one of them to set an example for revolutions in other countries and with expectations of another communist revolution and eventual return.
>>524585146>finnish rajpls nopontificate the aroma
>>524585606You've got it backwards Ivan.Finland shared it's greatness first with sweden, making it a great power, and then with russia.With it's independence, both empires collapsed into irrelevancy. Russia just took a bit longer because they managed to conquer karelia at the cost of countless russian 'men'
>>524586305>karelia We have backup fins at home
>>524585161When it comes to western world a collapse would actually be welcome at this point it would mean a chance to build something newwithout jews around this timeA economic system based on being properly rewarded according to productive work, where parasites who do nothing wouldnt be rewardedIt would be national, and it would be socialMaybe even use an ancient logo..the hakenkreuz..
>>524585907>Russia litterally liberated them and gave them a state.No. You cant give something to stubborn warrior nation who can survive year around with only knife in their hand, who have been literally fighting wars for swedes and russians and who speak language no one else does, all that in land they know better than anyone and where isnt easy to move around. It would have been Vietnam x 10 to Russia if they would have tried to do same what they did to other annexed nations. Russians knew this and for that reason it was better to let them be and "rule" them self. Russia just pretended they had Finland, when in reality even swedes didnt have and it was only matter of time finns would have put stop to their oppression, it was already bubling under.
>>524585956>China can take huge chunks of it.China will take, there is no guestion about it.
>>524586148Also there is this interesting part where marshall mannerheim the hero of the independence and winter war and later an ally of hitler, he wasn't originally that much of a finnish independence minded. He had served his whole career in the Imperial Russian Army and was a general there fighting in the russo japanese war and WW1 in many countries for the russian armySo when the kikes took over he went back to Finland to lead the Whites because he hated the communistsHe was the hero of Finland but he also kept the picture of Nicholas II in his house for all his life, the man that was going to fold Finland to the empire.So its complicated, the history. Usually shills only give one part of the story, and very much colored too
>>524585264>russians are known for leaving previously occupied areasyeah i think you might be the retarddoubt finns want more russians in finland then there already are>>524585606>The finnish people had inhabited the region for millenia BEFORE swedish rulecan you read? pic unrelated
>>524585031Why ruskie think everybody has wet dreams about partitioning their shithole? We have our own problems, nobody will throw money at you, there will be no occupied areas with infrastructural investments, there will be no Marshall plan for you. Króleviec aka Kaliningrad will be a bitter pill for whatever country going to claim it.
>>524586047>it was better to let Finland go because it was far from left wing communist mind set, and trying to force Finland under communist rule would have been disaster.This isn't exactly the reasoning and how it went down. It was rather a play by Lenin that because there were Red forces in Finland soldiers from the Imperial Russia become USSR, and also local Reds lead by the Terijoki Government and OW Kuusinen who is regarded here as a traitor and in the USSR as a hero who is buried into the wall of Kremlin, what Lenin thought that it could just give Finland independence and then promptly have a separate Red revolution there too and then Finland would voluntarily join USSR.This would show the world how "oh these are absolutely not some imperialist kikes trying to take everything over by force, this is just a communist brotherhood that everyone wants to join voluntarily"Well what happened is that the Civil war indeed did break out with the Reds being supported by USSR and then covertly funded also by some prominent kikes in sweden and germany and probably elsewhere.It was pretty much a toss up, luckily Mannerheims vast experience helped a lot and he was able to whip up the White guard to a proper fighting force while the Reds didnt have such good leadershipAlso the Red forces that were in Finland, well some of them fought a bit but most of them didnt really feel it considering they just had been White imperial russian army themselves and probably didnt even really know which side they should be on, so they pretty much just fucked off back to USSRAnd Whites won, Finland became independent, some of the local reds shot, some kept alive but were watched closely for many years, and everything was pretty good. Until kikes wanted to try again and Winter war happened, but that was 20 years later
>>524586578>stubborn warrior nation who can survive year around with only knife in their hand, who have been literally fighting wars and who speak language no one else does, all that in land they know better than anyone and where isnt easy to move around.You just described most of eastern europe and specifically russia my guy. >>524587350well maybe because you always talk and post about partitioning russia? youve got no money to throw anyway, you are irrelevant slave state to EUSSR and wont be getting a piece anyway. fuck, you are so irrelevant i forgot about your existence even though you are certain to try to steal some belarusian land >Königsberglol take it nigger, you cant and wont ever touch it because you are tiny irrelevant pussy with no army or ability to fight wars, its why EUSSR is sucking up roaches, as they are the only one with any semblance of army >>524586802Based man, many such cases surprisingly
>>524584430Finland is already going bankrupt, how is more empty land going to help us feed all the world's niggers?
>>524587670>youve got no money to throw anywayThis is where you are wrong Mehmet. But the money is reserved for military, collapsing healthcare and railways, not for modernization of your shitholes after collapse.You may say collapse of RF will never happen. I say it will happen as soon as the first oligarch with a dual citizenship decides to abandon the sinking ship.
>>524588167>you are wrong>EUSSR money is mine omegalul
>>524587670>You just described most of eastern europe and specifically russia my guy.You just think cannon fodder and warrior is same thing. Russian have always been fighting by sending endless flood of meat wave, and while advancing they always loot, destroy and rape everything on their path. It has nothing to do with skill.
>>524588245>Russian have always been fighting by sending endless flood of meat wave, and while advancing they always loot, destroy and rape everything on their path.HOLY FUCKING BASED
>>524585269>this is what vatniggers actually believeWew
>>524584430Nothing against those borders but you need to get yourself gassed you fucking Jew.
>>524586123>Real Russians got Mongolized and turned into orcs a long time ago.that's literally what happened to croats, you were originally slovene adjacent people but then migrations from the balkans of bosnians, vlachs and serbs mutted you into a balkan people
>>524587670>>Königsberg>lol take it nigger, you cant and wont ever touch it because you are tiny irrelevant pussy with no army or ability to fight warsIt's funny how ruskies always start speaking german when they get upset.16th Pomeranian Mechanised Division alone would be more than enough to seize this post stamp of a land.AND THEN WHAT?Throw money at this open air museum of USSR?This is why everybody facepalms at your>russia gets bigger every day
>>524586480VALGEVENE :D
>>524584639NATO employee of the year.
>>524586480Nothings left of them after forced russification.
>>524586933>yeah i think you might be the retardYou are retard. Estonia have massive amount of russians because you let them stay and didnt even try to integrate them in estonian nation. Finland have russians because finns thought it "good idea" to allow people have dual citizenship, which is most retarded idea ever. Russia is know for moving lot of people around, and thats one of their main strategy to take over occupied land: mass migration with massive benefits for any native russian who move to occupied land while they by force or other ways to move native people away from occupied land. Any time you get any land back from Russia first thing is kick every single russian out.
>>524584923Kek is there a single point in Russian history where is wasn't technically in the process of being destroyed?
Just watched the unknown soldier on youtube. Now i want to fight for a Greater Finland and drive judeo-bolsheviks back to eastern wastes.
>>524586933>can you read?Yeah, i can, but i also understand what i read. Try it sometimes, Igor.
>>524584430Only Finns could be excited by the prospect of acquiring more trees and lakes.
>>524588167we are already doing as bad as france this is embarassingthe sanctions really fucked usthe border region in the east is dead nowi also watch some random youtube video from some russian guy going in karelia in the russian side there were some truckers he was hitchhiking with lamenting that the sanctions also shut down lot of factories and trade on that side lot of people lost their jobsi wish the ukraine war never happened it has been bad for us too
>>524587540>And Whites won, Finland became independent, some of the local reds shot, some kept alive but were watched closely for many years,Not really. Communists didnt have big influence in Finland, it was very small when compared to Soviet Union. This is also reason why most fighting in white or red side didnt actually know why they were fighting, they were recruited mostly by accident, kinda coin flip, to whites or reds. On both sides there were provocateurs and recruiters who literally run around randomly and recruited, not by choise but by force, people from villaged and towns. This led to situation where in lot of cases people from same community, village or even family were fighting on opposite sides, and this is where originally name "veljessota" is from in Finland.
>>524588824>didnt even trylol? how do you convince people to adopt different culture and language if they refuse to admit that its no longer russian territory..just for your information the communist party remained in estonia and also stayed in congress , they just swapped red shirts to blue>>524588936>i also understand what i readclearly not, Ahmed
>>524588800Nah they still exist in small numbers, i went to school and college with a few of them. They generally keep to themselves but eventually intermarry and assimilate with russians anyway. Admittedly i live in a city which is basically russian outpost, these guys actually take helis to get here.Good people usually
>>524588879>Just watched the unknown soldier on youtube.Which version? Imo Molberg version from 80's is best.
>>524589008>be excited by the prospect of acquiring more trees and lakes.Thats what matters.
>>524589008it is preferable to acquiring people
>>524589526Yeah I mean some of the leaders who still were left in finland would have been watched, not the average man. Some of the leaders fled to USSR too and lived there and some like Kuusinen became member of the communist party there, hence the consideration of traitor here and hero in USSR
>>524589542>lol? how do you convince people to adopt different culture and language if they refuse to admit that its no longer russian territoryFirst you make them speak your language. I have lived in estonia and i know there are areas and people who cant speak even single sentense of estonian. They will stay russian if you allow them to have parallel society.
>>524590094>makeelaborate on the process, im all ears
>>524590261Remove Russian from basic school education but keep it optional with explicit opt in starting from middle school.Make Estonian default on all stages of education, keep Russian as optional but make it less available option, ie by default everyone will get Estonian, all sites will be Estonian, all forms will be Estonian, all media will be Estonian and they will have to ask for Russian forms of documentsAll stores and various establishments etc must have a name in Estonian and provide Estonian service by default, but they can have SAME name written in Cyrillic which must be requested by store (maybe even add a requirement for a couple of locals express that desire as well) Mandatory Estonian language test with some exceptions like senile elderly, infants, mentally disabled. Discourage diaspora, actively work or dismantling diaspora of all kinds.If after all that you still have population that refuses to speak anything but russian, let them remain, people will naturally phase out least useful language, if they wont, their children will.
>>524584430There's no point in that if culturally Russian people come along, and they will. It would only plummet the social cohesion and give more ammunition for adversaries to destabilize the country.
>>524584430The Russia-Ukraine war made me hate my fellow countrymen
>>524590960>If after all that you still have population that refuses to speak anything but russian, let them remain, people will naturally phase out least useful language, if they wont, their children will.thats what they did, didnt work, they just wont learn and keep using russian , there is just too many and they dont give a shit + most of them believe estonia is just part of russia and we should learn russian.. they wouldnt learn estonian even if you had them at gunpoint lol
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>>524591353I doubt they enforced everything i said otherwise Russian diaspora would have been left without russian speaking hugbox. Basically make Estonian default on everything and easily accessible, while leaving Russian either outright inaccessible in extreme cases or super annoying and painstaking to receive. Especially inside government must be purely estonian
>>5245847
>>524587350we will accept the heavy burden :)
>>524584430>Somalians>taking territory by forceDidn't work in Africa and it won't work in Finland.
>>524585269if russia is so tuff why have you never taken western Europe you couldn't even get in western Germany if we Americans hadn't stopped Hitler all of Europe including russia would have fell
>>524591578what stops them from speaking russian to eachother? everything is literally in estonian , less in 90s and so but now its very much , but still
>>524591190Forgive them for they do not know what they did.
>>524585606>Sweden lost to a bunch of drunks>have been irrelevant ever sinceAre the Scandis just worshipped because their women look good naked? They have a similar history to the Ottomans.
>>524592027>Mandatory Estonian language test with some exceptions like senile elderly, infants, mentally disabled.at very least this was only recent addition no? >what stops them from speaking russian to eachother?>Discourage diaspora, actively work or dismantling diaspora of all kinds.This must be enforced, im not sure how but it must be.Maybe make it so that if there is an establishment that known to be purely russian, it must pass a test proving it can provide adequate service in estonian. Or if its know to be place for RUSKI TOLKO outright ban it and prosecute owners for idk discrimination If you want to do it peacefully, it must be slow and always encroaching on their purely russian freedom more and more. it can be done forcefully but Estonia is unfortunately not in position to do it.
>>524584430go back to led dit you disgusting hohol nafoid
>>524588486You mean migrated to Balkans?Of course we're some mix of Slavs and whatever population was here post Rome -- though I'm pretty sure that Vlachs came to identify as Serbs for most part once they got here.Thing is, the Croatian military frontier held out against Ottomans for a long time and did not fall the way that Bosnia and Serbia did.Serbia and Bosnia are the ones that got orcified by Turks in the same manner that Russians got it from Mongols.
>>524592180>a russian calling some other country irrelevantKek. Also,>their women look good nakedYou have never seen a woman naked in real life.
>>524585749>china swedelmao
>>524592027>less in 90s and so but now its very much , but stillAlso if peaceful then its a very slow process, at very least 1 generation, probably 2-3 on average. Russian must simply become language that they have no use for regardless of reason. >Mandatory Estonian language test with some exceptions like senile elderly, infants, mentally disabled.>Remove Russian from basic school education but keep it optional with explicit opt in starting from middle school.>Make Estonian default on all stages of educationjust these steps alone will ensure that future generations will know estonian, refuse? Tough luck, school cannot accommodate you or your kids>Remove Russian from basic school education but keep it optional with explicit opt in starting from middle school.Also when i said this, i meant specifically class of Russian language, not education in Russian, the rest of education must remain Estonian.
>>524590960>Make Estonian default on all stages of education, keep Russian as optional but make it less available option, ie by default everyone will get Estonian, all sites will be Estonian, all forms will be Estonian, all media will be EstonianThey'll learn Estonian but casually speak to each other in English, which is the actual language of most platforms that they'll use.>Discourage diaspora, actively work or dismantling diaspora of all kinds.Would directly contradict the western attitude to immigration from the third world and white displacement, which is the actual goal of the EU and the kikes that run the EU.>>524592027>>524592373You guys are focusing on the wrong thing. Both of you are from different nations but communicating in a language that neither of your grandparents spoke fluently. Russian or Estonian doesn't matter if the cultural content you consume is in English, which is how the British-American (Jewish) empires spread influence.The real threat is not and never has been Russian influence. The real threat has and will be Judeo-Anglo influence. Remeber, none of this shit matters if you import millions of non-whites to replace you. A nation is its genetics, not language or culture.
>>524592551>thinking I'm a RussianI'll post my gun if you post yours.
>>524592822>They'll learn Estonian but casually speak to each other in English, which is the actual language of most platforms that they'll use.And thats fine, english is currently world language, i would prefer if average russian knew english as well, would make "him" far less cancerous, this is not about western ideal, but language it self, it will be beneficial to russians. >The real threat is not and never has been Russian influence. The real threat has and will be Judeo-Anglo influence. Remeber, none of this shit matters if you import millions of non-whites to replace you. A nation is its genetics, not language or culture.Thats an entirely different topic, bordering eugenics, which i am hugely in favor of.
>>524591353>thats what they didno they didnt. you can use russian in any store and government department without any problem. estonia didnt force anything. after russia invaded ukraine and they started to be hostile against neighbours people in estonia have started to talk about more strict aproach against russian.>>524592027>what stops them from speaking russian to eachother?it doesnt matter. it matters they must speak when going shopping or interacting with government, health care etc.thats literally what russians do in their country.
>>524584639man you redditors love to circlejerk lmao
>>524593116>average Russian knew EnglishI think the average person under the age of 30 in the northern hemisphere knows English. Is this not true in Russia?>thats an entirely different topicIts different but its a far greater topic that none of the pro-West people want to talk about. I know Russia is also bad in this regard, but its funny hearing nationalists from the butthurt belt talking about their country fighting the Russians while the EU mongrelizes at a rapid rate.
>>524593209as if you are some oldfag og anon
>>524584430Delusional.
>>524593379>Is this not true in Russia?Very far from it and will get further after this war. There is no need for a Russian to learn english. >that none of the pro-West people want to talk about.Generally because they are shills, but also because its a shit eating contest and there is nothing you can do about it.>>524593175>thats literally what russians do in their country.Its especially funny to see Russians to sperg out about churka disapora behavior all the while being same exact diaspora in other countries. Pic rel will be gladly celebrated by Russians, but replace churka with Russian and Russian with some eastern european country and they will be seething.
>>524585269One day closer to TZD.
>>524593921My bad, forgot translation.
>>524594093Who are the most hated immigrants in russia? Tajiks?
>>524594305>most hated immigrants in russia? >Tajiks?After krokus probably but its central asians and caucasians in general
>>524584430Pol really needs a Jew meme flag for kikes like you.
We get half the Kola coastline which is historically Norwegian and Finland gets the rest.
>>524594403Can you even tell them apart from russians though?
>>524594093No need to translate. Half of pol are russniggers and other half are russnigger troll factory workers.
>>524594549You will only get niggers and sandniggers like you already do. So stfu petrol baby
>>524594624caucasians look pic rel, so easy to spot
>>524594712No, you can't immigrate here gypsy
>>524594549>We get half the Kola coastlinYou greedy fish nigger. You already have all the oil fields of the northern sea but now you also want all the salmon fishing spots too??? How about instead, once you and finland are done with vodka niggers, you together deal with the real enemy: snus niggers
>>524584430Would love to travel to Kuola and see whatkind of natural wonders are there.
>>524594624central asians look pic rel, again, easy to spot.
>>524594851Why would I want to immigrate to an inferior country when worst Korea is there, open and ready to take me in.
>>524584430Kola is hyperborea btw
>>524588868Mby they had a 100 year period where they had so many internal issues they couldn't wage any new wars aka they couldn't try to expand their nation (they loved conquering smaller nations)When they ended up gighting bigger threats they fking imploded. Even afghanistan was too big for them.
>>524591190Ryssä
>>524594896your women and girls find them irresistible.
>>524594624Generally with Russians you will get pic rel.Pale to fair skin, straight sometimes wavy dark blond to brown (sometimes blond) hair, colored eyes.With both Caucasians and Central Asians you will get none of that unless they have russian blood. >>524595320>pajeet posting
>>524594866Remember to bring Oltermanni so you can barter for luxury weekend rooms and barely-legal escorts to entertain you.
>>524595545What is a barely-legal escort in russia? Asking for a friend.
>>524595888Barely-legal = verbally agreed she is 18, wink wink.Getting teenage girls to keep you company was pretty easy in St Petersburgerstan night clubs in 2018. With the popularity of aps for that activity now I guess the prices have gone up and available selection is slimmer, because the girls select their customers more carefully.
but Kola is Norwegian though
>>524584430>lose the winter war>lose the continuation war>betray germany when things got hard>pretend to be le white deathLOL
>>524596940>>lose the winter warWhoa! Red Army conquered Helsinki? News to me.
>>524596940Lousy choice for a VPN, Vladimir. Ask your superiors for a better one.
>>524596800After russia's collapse though it will be dirt cheap and the girls will be desperate. Imagine all that prime, of legal age, russian pussy that will be desperate to join your hotel room for the night, for what is pocket change to a European.
>>524584430I don’t think any nuclear power will suffer major territory loss.
>>524597014you LOSTyou LOST territoryyet you pretend that you won and everyone accepts it in popular cultureit's patheticat least admit that you got defeated twice>>524597067I'm not Russian, I wanted Germany to win WW2it's too bad the Finns betrayed them
>>524597295Oh no! Finland didn't fully repel the Soviet Union's army and only prevented Stalin from conquering all of Finland like he planned. How sad, so bad.
>>524597569>we didn't lose as badly as the enemy wantedloser talkgo get drunk, pirka, cope about your history of defeat while pretending you're winners>b-but Norway was defeated easily in ww2yes and I never pretend otherwise, unlike you
>>524597659Can you admit Stalin's goal was to take all of Finland and he failed in that?I can gladly say we lost all wars in the most humiliating way. Because Finland is now an older state than Russia.
>>524597799>Can you admit Stalin's goal was to take all of Finland and he failed in that?sure I guess I can be agreeable there, you do deserve credit for remaining an independent country and killing them in impressive K:D ratios
>>524597928The narrative changed in Moscow after WWII then they realised the original plan to get Finland (like they took Baltic states) didn't happen. That's why ruskies keep talking how Stalin only wanted a little buffer zone around Leningrad, for realsies!, but those dastardly cheating Finns started a bigger war against innocent Soviet Union. Easy to spot this revisionism when tankies and vatniks pretend they didn't try to conquer all of Finland.
>>524584747This is like an American saying they don’t want to reclaim California from Hispanics, Asians, and the Third World Mystery Meat Melting Pot because they messed it up. That’s the point, it was ruined and can be fixed. Do you think it would be smart for me as an American to cede the Port of Los Angeles, Port of Long Beach, the Central Valley Region, and San Francisco Bay just because they’ve been ruined by nine-whites and leftists?
As the stars align and the Great Moomin is completed, the Khaganate shall rise to fight the cursed Hwan once again, now heralding the end of all times in its wake.
>>524597295i have taken roadtrip few times in norway, from north to south. basicly its one road in northern parts. lots of wwII statues reminding places where norway got their ass kicked when germany took whole norway just by marching through country.
>>524584430Based. I want to see Suur Suomi
>>524596940Go torture some animal to death Mohammed.
>>524597799I’ll be honest, I don’t understand Finish pride after visiting. There is nothing worthwhile there that wasn’t built by Sweden or Russia. Proud of frozen tundra where people achieved nothing, where does it come from? It’s the same in Estonia too. The center of Helsinki is a Russian church lol. Proud of….Hesburger?
>>524598345>memeflag talks shitdon't care, coward
>>524598271kek
>>524586933>ripping off all that skin just to make a flesh tube in front of your pelvis and needing a wire fed into you to keep you regulardemonic, this is the kind of shit you'd see on the walls of a back half DOOM II map
>>524598532>he doesn't knowGood good. Now don't visit us again and tell your friends not come either.
>>524597799>Can you admit Stalin's goal was to take all of Finland and he failed in that?This can actually be heavily disputed unless you take unironic western fanfiction, interpretation of "secret plans" and assumptions as proof. Facts areSoviets wanted at very least some finnish land (proposed trade) Finland refused while it wasnt in no position to refuse (trigger of invasion) Finland lost more land than if they would have simply agreed to trade (piece treaty) In 50 years when Russo Ukrainian was is over, they will claim Russia totally wanted to take over all of Ukraine but brave heroes of Ukraine and specifically Ghost of Helsin... Kyiv stopped Russian imperialist and Voldemort Putler personal convictions.
>>524599429And here the revisionists come, just as predicted.Your next line is to claim it was the nefarious fascist Ango-Saxons who pushed Finland into the war.
>>524599429>This can actually be heavily disputedNo. It can't. Stalin's plan was to take over all of Finland, just like Putin's plan was to take over all of Ukraine. Both failed miserably. Mainly because of russian incompetence.
>>524599792Watch him pretend Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact didn't contain a deal between Hitler and Stalin to give Finland to Soviet Union.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
>>524599584>>524599792>British promises >mobilization of entire country Yes, exactly as Ukraine, thank you for proving my point.
>>524599866So you admit Stalin and Putin both failed in their aggression of neutral countries that posed no threat to them?
>>524599854>sphere of influenceThis is the interpretation and assumption that i mentioned
>>524599866Can you show these "British promises" made in 1939?
>>524599854Russian denial of facts and history rewrite is truly something else. I have met some in real life and they actually believe the ridiculous brainwashing they grew up with. Even those who have lived in Europe for years.
>>524599866>whatever happens is exactly what russia wanted nothing ever goes wrong for russia xaxaxa Yes. Yes. Very convincing.
>>524584430MRGA
>>524599983I would be curious to see the whole page of that newspaper but its likely just a propaganda piece.
>>524600502Thank you for admitting that "British promises" was a russian lie.
>>524585956>continued Russian EmpireWhen exactly was that ever a problem? The pro-republic anti-monarch kikemasons might hate it, because it's hard to manipulate
>>524600645While weightless speculations, its entirely possible same thing happened as in Ukraine happened, you know the whole Boris Johnson sabotaging peace talks, which just puts even more parallels between the two.>end of 1939 as far i can see yes, it was propaganda >1940now thats a different story Are you really going to pretend anglokikes are the good guys?
>>524600645Russians have a dual mind, they both know they are spouting lies and believe them at the same time.
>>524601005>you know the whole Boris Johnson sabotaging peace talks,Nope. He didn't. Ukraine stopped the talks before Boris parachuted into Ukraine. I recommend you read Our enemies will vanish -book.https://youtu.be/wKs0z8-UxeE?si=uiNeqSNN9D1nijxj
>>524598532>Proud of frozen tundra where people achieved nothingTundra, where?
>>524598537What shit? At what point norwegian army stopped germans and made them flee?
>>524598532the enemy rules through divide and conquer, the constant brother wars are result of this
>>524600645Actually considering the timing of newspaper and offer delivery date its entirely possible offer was made prior to newspaper release, unfortunately i can verify exact date. >>524601219ah you are from uhg, ignore everything i said, you are unlikely to consider anything outside of (((reddit)))
>>524601219I don't understand this Boris Jonson thing. He has no power over either side. At most he could have told Ukrainians that Britain will support them if they want to fight. He can't make them fight. He can't make Russia retreat. So how the fuck is it his fault exactly?
>>524601413>you are unlikely to consider anything outside of (((reddit)))Pls dudes, stop using reddit as an argument. None of you aint some og oldfag 4chan anons.
>>524601219>the type of war Russia waged>russia will try to annihilate ukraine nearly 4 years later there is still less civilian than in Gaza and ukies are chilling outside skiing, truly war of annihilation and hyhyl genocide. >>524601742>british promises >at most he could have told Ukrainians that Britain will support them if they want to fight>I don't understandpajeet or crypto hyhyl strongest supporter of war outside of кopдoн >>524601866i will not stop making fun of uhg-reddit partnership and other reddit things, this is not about being oldfag, its about general stance on things and willingness to consider things outside of (((approved))) narrative
>>524601985Just say you can't explain it or ignore my post. There was no need for this word salad response.
>>524601985>i will not stop making fun of uhg-reddit partnershipAs if there is some group of redditors coming over here to "fight" in these threads. That reddit vs 4chan bullshit is so 2006-2007.
>>524584430Two>>524584639More>>524584955Weeks
>>524586578>muh warrior nation>is Sweden's bitch for for 500 yearsLmao
>>524584639two moar weeks fella
