political philosopher I could ever recommendYou will not find one thing wrong or out of line in the works of Peter Kropotkin
>>524609844All of these russian writers were and are nobodys except they were puahed by communist jews during the cold war.
>>524609844Naive retard puppet of Jews who helped destroy his country. Seig heil to Tsar Nicholas
Kropotkin made some good points regarding cooperation and mutualism within species. You know what's fucking wild, I just realized Hitler made some similar arguments in Mein Kampf. Thanks for reminding me of K dawg. He was based and a very intelligent man. Takes balls to fuck off into Siberia for years at a time to study various animals and track behavior and instances of mutualism amongst them. Then to bring it back to others and basically challenge Darwinism? The truth imo often lies somewhere in the middle.
>>524609982old Saint Nick was the devil incarnate to flesh
>>524609844>Philosophy. A reminder all of the Athenian and Spartan Philosophers couldn't stop Macedonian Military Strategists. Only Aristotle was worthy.
>>524610039well it wasn't a challenge to evolutionary darwinism, but to economic or ethnographic social darwinism.
>>524610080He was a mild mannered and affable man by all accounts.
>>524610146From Kropotkin's point of view? Yes. I would agree with that. It has been a few years since I've read Conquest of Bread or Mutual Aid. I have them sitting across from me on the shelf strangely enough. I found them to be difficult texts to grasp at the time when I read them. But I enjoyed Mutual Aid. It resonated with my world view a lot.
>>524610334and he died like a pig, butchered alongside his family in a basement to be dumped like wasted food in a stray ditch somewhere out back. fuck him and everything he stood for. Monarchy and feudalism, man knows few greater crimes
>>524610366CoB is alot more of a utopian application of his theories laid out in mutual aid, not always in ways that translate as easily as his descriptions of species or early man.
>>524610039Co-operation is a Human necessity for reproduction and survival for one. Anarchism and Communism undermines a significant trait in Humanity to form leadership based on either merit or good breeding. Idealism is a false god.
>>524609844If your work doesn't touch on politics, then you aren't a philosopher.If your work only touches on politics, then you aren't a philosopher.
>>524610523as long as those in leadership positions act with a sense of cooperation, sure.
>>524610404Do you think Russians have benefitted from this many famines, purges and requisitions later? Just like the French Revolution the Bolshevik one was Judaic and in fact led to Jewish renaissances at the explicit misery inflicted on all else.
>>524610645you could use alot of terms.GeographerEthnographerHistoriographerBut personally I think his theories are desperately needed in the modern day as political forces themselves, and I hope to qualify him more as a leader of political thought.
>>524610523> Idealism is a false GodI disagree. It has been idealists, men of true courage and bold behavior who have shaped the world in their image and left the largest impacts. Jesus Christ. Idealist. Martin Luther King Jr. Idealist. Adolf Hitler. Idealist. JFK. Idealist. I could go on and on. I wouldn't say it's a false God, but to follow your ideals uncritically is dangerous and presumptive, and tends to lead to ones ruin. I generally consider myself a libertarian socialist (anarcho communist) in an ideal world (utopian aka non existent). I chart there on most political compass tests. Where I disagree with communism (stateless classless society wherein hierarchy is done away with) is on the basis of its ignorance of and contempt for hierarchical structures. Hierarchy is inherent to nearly all species of mammals. You need leadership, structure, a means of understanding the world and your place within that world with other people. The college aged kids I had to deal with in my early twenties upset me greatly with their contrarianism on this point. What separates a successful idealist from that of a failed cynic is their ability to break down the larger goal into smaller, completable tasks, and then scaling from there.
>>524610717The Russians went from an agrarian peasant community to harnessing the collective power of their massive population and, within a single generation, growing to become a leader in scientific thought and a genuine opponent in the space race snapping up achievements left and right. The miracle that the USSR achieved in spite of not only its internal divisions, but the incredible amount of hostility from the western world, is nothing short of an act of god, if you believe in him.
>>524610404Disgustingly Jewish comment
>>524610710Proof is in the pudding always. A society that truly isn't will lag or implode, Russia was in fact the second largest land empire ever however this threatened bankers so they had to fund the psychopathic and cynical Bolsheviks from NY, London and Geneva.
>>524610793You can call him a political thinkerI just hate how the word 'philosopher' has been watered down to include tons of people who have put literally no thought into the nature of reality whatsoever
>>524611019what some might call diluted terminology.
>>524610903The idea all Russians were a bunch of peasants sitting on their thumbs is offensive, what of the musicians, scientists and writers and those that were murdered in the 1930s by Stalin and his Jewish/Caucasus clique, Tolstoy would spit on you.
>>524610523I actually agree with you on the point that the ideologies are dismissive and distrustful of inherent socio biological characteristics of mankind. I know I'm gonna catch flak for saying this, but I have come to the conclusion in recent years that Hitler was right. Not about everything of course. But his views on ethnostates, the concept of a people as those with ties to the land, heritage, shared language, lineage, tradition, and social hierarchy. He was very observant of those things and J think that's due in part because of his lower middle class up bringing coupled with eventually getting cast out of society post World war one. It gave him a taste of several different perspectives of life. We have sufficient evidence to suggest that democracy and ethnocentric societies with states that back that particular ethnic groups interests fare better in responding to public concerns. Robert Putnam touches on this in Bowling Alone, albeit only briefly.
>>524610080Congratulations, you have been successfully brainwashed by 150 years of Jewish media that demonised the Romanovs for rejecting international finance and keeping control of the Jewish mafia by restricting it to the Pale of Settlement.
>>524611141>what about all the nonscientistsyea I'm not saying one thing or another about Russias culture or the incredible repression faced by soviet citizens. But the scientific achievement would be of note in any country of the world. It's like if Alaska suddenly passed Florida and started rivaling Cali for the wealthiest US state
>>524611144Hitler was right about everything ESPECIALLY Jews actually and you're still a brainwashed leftist midwit
>>524611144Hitler was still an idealist albeit of the more tragic than loathsome kind. Only select generals uninvolved in the plot and Goebbels stuck by him within his professional company. I value realpolitik, responsible government and that which can adapt due to circumstance.
>>524611357Whoever made this meme was too retarded to realize that isn't a picture of Hitler.
>>524609924Communism during the Cold War had racial states with static ethnic proportions at the same time Europe and the USA were importing tens of millions of darkies.>>524610523>implying there's a real godcope
>>524611287oh how dare he not be open enough to the banksI dont care about thatI'm an anarchist, he committed his sin at birth.All "royals" hang.All "monarchs" die.on this earth there are no gods and no masters and anyone claiming blood inheritance of a nation is claiming mastery over its inhabitants. It's a fundamental, timeless wrong and it carries only one penalty.
>>524611356The Soviets literally genocided Eastern European high IQ populations like the Kilaks and intelligentsia you fucking faggot Kike trash. Science denying communism wasn't responsible for an increase in technological development
>>524611356Lysenko the biggest idiot of little Russia denounced to death more talent than he was able to muster. Much of their space race was achieved by spy rings and invading Europe up to the Elbe.
>>524611423Had to photoshop the nose to look less obviously jewish. He was a Wiemar fed and the fanboys are the same as messianic kikes.
>>524611510>"science denying" he called it, I swear XD
>>524611423I've got an IQ like 30-40 points above you though?
>>524611510>muh intelligensia You mean rootless cosmopolitans? You christniggers can't cope with atheist communism producing the only example of white nationalism.
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>>524611559>Had to photoshop the nose to look less obviously jewish.No, it's an impersonator from a film or something. I don't know why they always use this photo when there are thousands of actual photos they could use.
>>524611459There's a real God and no amount of Human torture can disprove it.
>>524611509>I'm an anarchistYou mean a completely nonsensical utopian political ideology that goes against all of history and human nature and was immediately raped by Soviets the moment they took power? Lol. You must not be 18, Beca any modicum of life experience will tell you that even the most grassroots and consensus based organisations require hierarchy in order to function properly. The monarch of Russia cared for Russians and wanted what was best for them, Soviets were ran by misanthropic inbred Jewish freaks and churkas who hated everything about Russia
>>524611738Nah you're just a primate with chimp brain that wants to believe he's allied with some super alpha silverback in the sky.
>>524611831I am not far off this and I humbly accept my position he has granted me.
>>524611364He was a very enigmatic man. There are some people you just meet that happen to have this aura about them. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Goebbels often said in his private diaries that he was practically in love with Hitler (not sexually but enamored with his conviction, not necessarily his ideas). It's what makes political idealists such a grave threat to entrenched state power structures when you get a guy with > Nothing left to lose> An axe to grind because he's been slighted multiple times by his own government> Is well read, has military and combat experience, intelligence experience to boot> Exceptional oratorical command and an understanding of crowd psychology> Genuinely believes in what he says> Isn't rash but can display tact, patience, and knows when it's time to execute his plansI loathe his views on genocide. His flagrant disregard for human life, and his cynical Darwinism is what I find fault with. He could have achieved the German ethnostate without resorting to war mongering. I'm not dismissing the claims that they were egged on at times either by Western powers. Just pointing out that German Autarky was a laughable notion because Germany relied heavily on the natural resources of neighboring France and Ukraine during the height of the war. I think for me, where he and Kropotkin overlap is in their understanding of the importance of mutual cooperation amongst species (think species in Kropotkin's perspective but in terms of ethnic groups). I'm trailing a bit but my point is> Disagree with the Darwinist maximalist worldview> Disagree with eugenics> Disagree with post modern liberals who have successfully managed to convince people that racial biology is non existent or a lie> Disavow genocide> See the value in cooperation amongst people regardless of ethnic background or how they look or whatever
>>524611144>We have sufficient evidence to suggest that democracy and ethnocentric societies with states that back that particular ethnic groups interests fare better in responding to public concerns.Mutual cooperation brings enormous benefits not only to society but also to individuals, including existential psychological security. However, reciprocal relationships cannot exist without mutual trust ensuring they are not exploited unilaterally, and the greatest foundation for trust ultimately lies in ethnic and cultural proximity. This is also significantly constrained by the Dunbar number (150 individuals) as the unit of an animal horde at a deeper level, though humans can overcome this to some extent through abstract thought.It is difficult for a elite to mobilize a populace that has lost trust and refuses to cooperate, forcing them to collaborate for a greater cause. Putnam expressed this very indirectly by showing the negative correlation between ethnic and cultural diversity within a community and social trust and social participation. No one dies for diversity.
>>524611576Yeah, havent read about when Soviets BANNED any discussion of evolution or natural selection because it "validated Nazi ideology"? And they had all these pseudoscientists (Lysenko) invent alternate theories of life to comply with Soviet ideology? LMAO
>>524611963Eugenics is slated terribly thanks to Aktion T4. Turns out you don't actually need to euthanise the minority of severely disabled or genetically diseased to upgrade the Human race, we now have tools to eliminate such things from gene pool non-lethally but are at a loss to use them simply because of taboo surrounding what happened during Aktion T4.
>>524612107All of your intellectuals are normie and gay sterile picks who've just regurgitated what smarter men knew about decades earlier in a more sanitised format. Try Kevin MacDonald, Theodore Fritsch or Ferdinand Klaus.
>>524611786> Even the most grassroots organizations require hierarchyCorrect, and this is why I don't consider myself an actual anarchist. I'd say I'm moreso sympathetic to many of its ideals and firm belief in skepticism as a healthy way of challenging both yourself and the powerful. I would like to point out however George Orwells little experience in anarchist run Barcelona during the Francoist wars in the 1930's. According to Orwell Barcelona was basically stateless, classless, for nearly two years until the Soviet backed left wing groups came in and purged them all. He spoke highly of it. No one was posturing, wealth flaunting was met with contempt, people just lived their lives and mutual aid abounded. It didn't last however because> Lack of hierarchy and proper structure means no centralized command structure so organized and well thought out defense is near impossibleI think anarchism as an ideology CAN work in both theory AND practice, but IT CANNOT be conducted at scale beyond say 12 - 100 people. How do you expect to maintain order and law or structure once the group becomes too large to keep track of on a face by face basis? You can't. It's a fringe ideology for these reasons. It's ignorant of how power works in the world of human beings.
>>524612215>Aktion T4.Overexaggerated nonsense and most of the killings were in the East in wartime.>we now have tools to eliminate such things from gene pool non-lethallyFalse. Racial traits are polygenic and cannot be changed even if you rewrote a million key genomes. You might be able to promote beneficial alleles, but on the whole unleas you literally live in star trek utopia with total body remodeling machines a nigger will still have all the racial neurobehavioural traits of a nigger.
>>524612215To be fair, for example, Japan formally retained the Eugenix Protection Law which literally aimed to "prevent the birth of defective offspring from a eugenic standpoint" and the forced sterilization of certain disabled individuals until 1996. When this law was abolished in Japan, it coincided with the retirement of the wartime generation from World War II, leading to a rupture in values.Actually, similar cases persisted in other countries until quite recently.
>>524612502>goes on about soviets denying genetics>doesn't accept whites as albino niggers
>>524612502The German High Command was quite dismissive of evolutionary biology as a science rather than a "hecking science", the whole point Darwin was trying to get across is perfection is always momentary, a work in progress for the foreseeable forever. Already scientists have treated Down Syndrome in Humanised Mice with Trisomy 21. Sounds like a huge claim but google provides here. Don't fall for the transmutationist evolution memes from young Earth creationists and other complete novices however.
>>524612534Also look at Japans immigration laws which were very strict well up until the last ten or so years. I looked into getting a visa to live and work in Japan as far back as 2013. I was SOL because they demanded you have a four year education in STEM at minimum to get in. You had to have a formal education to get in.This is discriminatory but that's the whole point. You want high quality people in your country, not just every will nilly mother fucker with two arms and a leg to deliver Amazon packages. Without high standards and without enforcement you don't have a sense of self and as such loss respect for it. Japan is getting FLOODED with foreigners now. In 2018 when I finally visited I hardly saw a foreigner like myself in the suburbs or rural countryside. I see videos out of Japan now and there's a Westerner in every town. It's sad because Japan will die if it continues. This forced mixing and blending of cultures is intentional. Powerful people want this to occur because it makes people easier to control amidst the confusion. Hence, this all comes back to the topic of Capitalism as an ideology and moreso neoliberalism and the deregulation we have seen post Carter. Hitler was once again right. He pointed out (way in advance) the dangers of international finance and unregulated capital structures and their ability to subvert whole peoples and nations at ransom. He called this out ages ago. Where he lost me and many others were with the methods. Japan handled immigration the right way. It didn't stick children in cages like we do in the United States. It didn't catch and release. It just said thanks but no thanks bye one and done if you fucked up. If countries want to maintain their sense of national pride, that starts with finding the people responsible for forcing the mass immigration on everyone, and kicking them out of the country as well. A nation ceases to exist the minute it becomes subservient to private capital. End of.
>>524612534We probably don't even need to do that anymore now we can delete faulty gene expression at the zygotic stage. Japan and China have pioneered this field of late since.
>>524609844"The anarchist flag is painted on bathrooms in bars all over the world and under bridges and the communist flag has flown over more than half the word's population." ~ Abraham Lincoln
>>524613390I still have my anarchist flag somewhere I think. I used to tape it to the back side of my "Fuck Joe Biden and Fuck you for voting for him" flag and it used to confuse all the normies kekYa but good thread thank you guys for actually having a good discussion about something. It's these rare moments of intellectualism on this board that keep me coming back.
>>524611356You are quite arrogant for such an ignorant nigger.Mendeleyev.
>>524612107I actually am in pretty close proximity to all my native ethnic groups cultures. It's my family after all. But I actually prefer having people of varying backgrounds and ethnic traditions bringing their own cultures and beliefs systems in a fair and equal society, thank you very much. Borders are gateway drugs to fascism
>>524609844DARWIN WASN'T A FILOSOFFER!
>>524611786I consider myself an anarchist not because im against any and all possible hierarchies, but because I want every hierarchy to be wholly accountable to its lowest member.
>>524611357Including the Haavara agreement and advocating for onions (Phytoestrogenic poison) to be fed to the German youth?
>>524615885I didn't know s o y gets changed to onions lol
>>524609982>>524610334>>524611287>hurr durr, ww1 was totally worth participating in while ignoring famine! i am intelligent!
Lysander spooner is more my style
>>524613390Lincoln never said that>>524613665Why would anarchists support any party you fucking retard?
