>>524612011So? Do you want to work in an aluminum factory?
It also has hundred times the poverty.
yeah but blackrock made houses cost $50,000 more this year and the stock market is up 5 pointscheck materegardless all heavy industry offshored 30 years ago will magically return in time to counter the china threat
>>524612011You do realize this level of disparity is bad for China, too, right? It doesn't matter if you have a supply way bigger than anyone else, because everyone else buys it to keep your economic engine going. If one fails, the other must as well. And no, you cannot use violence to stimulate commodity consumption.
>>524612011China is lying about their population numbers.
>>524612060Yeah, at least you know you're helping to improve your nation instead of working a western fake desk job where you only pretend to work for 8 hourse every day.
>>524612011That's a lot of fucking aluminum. What the fuck are they using it for?
>>524612118>china make everything bad b/c i fuck my dog>>524612161>china is 2 people t. nigger>>5246122741. selling it to the rest of the world so everyone can continue to run fake economies without doing any real work2. building the worlds largest military3. building infrastructure
>>524612011>NUMBERS BIG GRAPHS Holy shit anon, do you even know what the fuck that means or did you post that from your chink shittok channels?
>>524612494Is China exporting that many aluminum billets? That's 43 MILLION tons of aluminum. Every year. Planes don't use *that* much aluminum. It's strange.
>>524612011they need it for their battleships.
>>524612571aluminium is used for cars / trucks [body panels, engine blocks], ev's [frames]. construction like bridges, packaging like beverage cans, electronics, etc80% is domestic
The cope in here is funny.>heh you see its actually bad for China to make everything
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>>524612011So, when are you moving there OP?
>>524612011China is lying about their GDP.
>>524612494I'm not saying China Bad, I'm saying that the fact that they produce more aluminum is currently irrelevant because in the modern, globalized, highly interconnected world where trade is king, you can't have a seller without a buyer and vice-versa. We just saw this with the trump tariffs. Piss everyone off? They wont trade with you and sell you goods. The same goes for China. Piss everyone off? They won't trade with you and buy your goods. My point is not that China Bad, my point is that it's just another form of mutually assured destruction, except financial in nature. If there were less of a disparity in aluminum production, then there's more opportunities for arbitrage and economic musical chairs, allowing for more points of leverage. But if the music stops in our current situation with the large production disparity? Then everyone is fucked, both foreign and domestic.
>>524612571Spoiler: it’s called overproduction. They made too many and they can’t find enough ways to get rid of it. So now they gotta spin this disastrous overproduction crisis as a “good” thing so retards keep believing stupid bullshit online.
Aluminium production creates a shitload of toxic byproducts. Children in my city still have on average have over 400% of the EPA safe level of lead in their blood decades after an aluminum factory here closed down and a decade after a very expensive lead remediation project literally dug up soil from peoples yards and replaced it all over the city.That's in additional to lots of other toxic shit in addition to the lead dust it spreads. China does a much worse job of controlling industrial waste so you can imagine how much worse it is there.
>>524612011Hey! That's my bauxite!! I don't know you!!
>>524612957really? they told you to fuck off over rare earthsas if you'll tell china you dont need what they wantall the us does is print dollars, china produces actual real goods; you fat burger faggots will never put in the hard work and everything i said was proven this year when you retarded mulatto niggers cucked out over rare earths and caved in 3 months flatlmao>>524612964>NOO YOU ARE TOO PRODUCTIVE, YOUR ECONOMY SHOULD BE OVERPRICED HOUSES AND NIGGERMUSIC
>>524612011cool fake graph from a fake institution.
>>524612274Cars.
>>524612060You faggot, there are wartime considerations, among other thingsKILL YOURSELF
>>524613189>OVERPRODUCTION WASTE IS LE GOOD BECAUSE IT IS, OK?Do you retards think all economical anomalies in china are ok because it’s not happening in your country? It would explain a lot.https://ligsuniversity.com/overproduction/
>>524612011Look at that massive red rocket
>>524613375Kek. It's not an anomaly retard. There are a billion chinks, and electric cars take 500lbs of aluminum to build.
>>524613375>stuff academics explain why making things is bad and we all need houses to cost 5million cos le gdp and please bail out wallstreetkys nigger
>>524612060pretty sure the fumes are highly toxic and will kill ya over time, I wouldn't
>>524612086>THE CHINA THREAT>RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH WE GOTTA GET THOSE CHINKS (also don't worry about the jews in your own country goy)
>>524613474And yet BYD is been caught multiple times padding their numbers which is weird for China’s biggest sellers. So it would be very easy to assume that there is no domestic market and nobody buying these cars like you wanna claim lmao.
>>524613553>I’m a stupid niggerWell yeah, but if you’re gonna talk about economics, you might as well try to read rather than chimp out like a stupid fuckin nigger, you dumb nigger.
>>524613177you guys need to stop selling all of your minerals/natural resources to China for cheap (and they make value-added products out of it) and bring some factories (and jobs other than truck driver hauling ore to the coast) back to Australia
>>524612274cheap shit to sell to everyone else
>>524612494>growth for the sake of growth is retarded when you have no internal consumption. You've already disposed of millions of slave laborers since the tarrifs began. Now you're building bridges that collapse days after completion and you think this is somehow going to help?
>>524612723History is the best teacher. If you don't understand why this is bad then no one can help you.
>>524612011So big that they need to hire people to remind you how big they are. Little dick energy.
>>524612011Yes, yes but what about stocks?What is the production of physical goods compared to shareholder value? Nothing.
>>524612011>what is chinesium
>>524613874Don't worry China collapse in 2 weeks.
>>524613189>akchually its a good thing that we killed all our sparrows. And melting down all that metal to make pig iron bridges means our numbers go up. If number go up then we numba wan.
>>524613553So china having the highest housing prices in the world is a good thing?
>>524613687>it would be very easy to assumeSure, yeah. That's all you can do, lmao. What a reject.
>>524612060Why do you ask him? If the factories were in America you'd know for sure only beaners and jeets would be working there, with kikes in management.
>>524612172move to china and become a slave then if life is too fucking easy in god damn Scandinavia.
>>524612060>Do you want to work in an aluminum factory?25% of American households have no income. Yes, Americans want to have jobs and an economy.
>>524617207but not you eh? no aluminum factory job for you?
I don't give a shit what some ersatz han are doing, anon
>>524612674Aluminum isn't really used in bridges desu. I'm just not seeing how they're using that much aluminum. Maybe building siding and panels? Planes, cars, none of that comes close to making a dent in that.
>>524612060See? This is the problem with americans, they refuse to work in the industry.
Isn't the US gonna massively pump up aluminium production? That's why Trump said he was destroying the Canadian aluminium industry.
>>524612011>China is already 10 times the size of the USand most of the bauxite to make the aluminium is coming from australia >>524612118>is badonly for america. their industries can't compete with cheaper product from china. i'm sure it'd be a different story if america had control over bauxite mining and refining
>>524612011Correct. China also probably leads the world in aluminum consumption within its industries too. I'll give you subhumans a little bit of a free education:If a country is business friendly, meaning it allows business creation, does not overly tax and regulate the businesses, and also allows associate businesses, then that country will manufacture things. Lots and lots of things will be manufactured, and then the country, people, economy, and government will be prosperous. Aluminum production requires lots and lots of energy. It is perhaps the most expensive input into the production of aluminum. What would a country need to do, in order to have an aluminum (or steel or other alloy) production? The country would need to have cheap electricity/ energy.... duh.If a country has cheap electricity/ energy and pro-business environment, then the country will manufacture lots of other stuff too. The country will become a manufacturing hub. It all boils down to the basic inputs: I'm I allowed to have a manufacturing plant aka affordable land, permits, friendly regulations, etc? In the USA, EU, Canada, UK, etc No way!Is affordable energy/ electricity available? In the USA, EU, Canada, UK, etc no way!Are the key inputs available (aka aluminum, steel, whatever)? In the USA, EU, Canada, UK, etc no way! That is made in Asia... so why would I do business anywhere else?Can I hire qualified people? In the USA, EU, Canada, UK, etc employers must hire unqualified retarded cunts, niggers, and other affirmative action subhumans to destroy everything. Well, business do not like to invest billions of dollars for retarded affirmative action subhumans to destroy through waste, non-value added cost, etc to make the business completely unprofitable and uncompetitive. So, that is why China manufactures most of the world's everything, including aluminum. Congratulations western countries... YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID ANS SHOULD DIE! Cause - effect... now KYS
>>524612060>Derr I'm a faggot!!!>Because I'm a faggot, everyone else must be a faggot>Also, because I'm a faggot everyone else must be poor!!!>Derrrr I just want more welfare derrr magic printer go burrrrrrrrrrrr >GIBS ME!!!KYS moron
>>524617894so are you gonna work in the aluminum factory or not? youre a patriot and we must outdo china, even if it means enslaving our people into endless toil and hardship, all for the benefit of the state. when are you gonna apply?
I wonder if producing epic amounts of aluminum poisons your own people…
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>>524612964>ARGHHH, I HAVE MORE THAN I NEED, HELP ME NIGGERMAN>>524613375Overproduction isn't waste. China's economy isn't optimized around finance. It's optimized around what is economical. Having stockpiles of affordable metalurgical components is the reason China is operating a modern space station while America is scrambling to decommission one.>>524613687>BYD is selling new cars as used because it allows poor dealers to use government subsidy to afford cars, meanwhile BYD gets paid full price due to subsidyIn your mind this proves that the people purchasing the cars don't actually have demand for the cars?>>524613806>Now you're building bridges that collapse days after completion and you think this is somehow going to help?China's infrastructure is in better shape than America's.
>>524613609Chinks are fucking with my Japanese media to a greater degree than kikesTotal chink death
>>524617844many of us know and realize all this but we are tied down by fucking retards around us and especially above usthe ruling class is supposed to be smart and competent, but the ruling class of the west is incredibly dumb and incompetentnot much can be done until it all collapses and then we can try and rebuild without the weight crushing us to death, maybe, or we all just die I guess
>>524612274cheap plastic shit that we don't needthat's why we can just tariff them to death and it wont effect us in any way don't worrybtw they stole our good paying jobs
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>>524617271>no aluminum factory job for you?Yes. Me.
>>524618065..but you won't do shit
>>524617432Bridges in China have aluminum in them. Show your math or your statement is "I *feel* like they don't use enough."
>>524614047What are they even doing? Burning tires for power or something?
>>524617967>even if it means enslaving our people into endless toil and hardshipThis is America's current situation. Onboarding productive jobs and returning to an economy that's not just printing and grift will give us a middle class again.
>>524618165>Makes structures that should be expected to be under constant strain, out of a material that is known to suffer from metal fatigue.I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they were doing it, but that sounds exceedingly retarded. There's a reason we don't use aluminum like that over here.
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>>524612060flipping papers on a desk won't win you wars dumbass
>>524614047>chinks burning stuff for no reason at allmany such caseshttps://youtu.be/oUmjfZ5UZi0&t=4425
>>524617844>probably leads the world in aluminum consumption within its industries too.they'd be using a lot of it, including all the stuff they can recycle, but they'd be selling a shitload of that back to us in all kinds of forms.
>>524617967>so are you gonna work in the aluminum factory or not?Yeah, I would work where ever I could. It bets being unemployed and poor, asshole. When the SHTF, then NIBYT scum like you will be hung upside down and left to starve to death. I will be the one with the rope!
>>524620750>betsbeats
>>524612011Thanks for making this thread and mining a whole new vein of mutt cope
>>524612161ThisThey do this to justify GDP inflationary projects like China's ghost citiesThe one child policy puts a wrench on their supposed explosive growth in the 20th centuryThe domestic consumption for a supposedly first world nation doesn't add up at all
>>524612011now you know why the aluminum is dogshit
WTF us China doing with all that aluminum??
>>524620962Drones. Billions & billions of drones.
>>524613075What kind of factory was it? Aluminium is made by electrolyze from boxite. It doesn't contain any led, unless it was added later on. Prbbly not aluminium factory but some metalurgy factory that was also producing led pipes or other shit that only americans use.
>>524613799agreed buta) it's hard to make a financial case for it, it'd have to be state sponsored which would upset a lot of people (including the current US administration)b) we've had pretty low unemployment for 20+ years now, so there's no drive to find new industries to pour the unused labor into
>>524612011Based chinks
>>524612011>I export all my industrial production to China because bean counter told me so back in the 90's and now China control 90% of industrial output. How could have this happen !?I really wish I had a time machine to go back and shoot the retard who talk about muh global competitivity, muh first world of service industry and those retarded idea of End of History/Dividen of Peace.